date:20180528

[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is a scholarly tragedy that Vince has sold part of the Lutes collection
away.
I feel sorry it could not have ended up as a whole collection at a real
Special Collections library, like UC Santa Barbara University Library Special
Collections. There already is a ™ special collection at UC Santa Barbara
University Library in the formative Melton academic collection on New Religious
movements. SRM would have been safe kept there for others coming along to see
it, in research.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Various statements from Maharishi, ...etc
It's About Time, by Vince Daczynski
http://uploads.worldlibrary. org/uploads/pdf/ 20170830114306itsabouttimeload
.pdf
http://uploads.worldlibrary.org/uploads/pdf/20170830114306itsabouttimeload.pdf

wrote :

Someone was telling that parts of the Charlie Lutes archive have been sold and
sent away, parted out. $

Too bad they did not all go together to a bonafide University special
collections library, a place like University of California Santa Barbara
University Library Special Collections where the material all could be viewed
and researched.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Charlie Lutes Memoirs published

Maharishi gave Charlie permission to publish his account of the historic
founding of the TM Movement.

Marty Zucker’s book, “Messenger of Bliss-How Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Set Off to
Heal the World” is this historic account as it was told to him by Charlie.

This book is available for free reading as a downloadable pdf e-book.

Here is the link:

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/ eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx
http://www.self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx?

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/ eBooks/WPLBN013011-
Messenger-of-Bliss--How- Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Set-Off-
to-Heal-the-World-by-Zucker- Martin.aspx
http://www.self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN013011-Messenger-of-Bliss--How-Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Set-Off-to-Heal-the-World-by-Zucker-Martin.aspx?

Please pass this link to your friends.

Vince

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Lecture: The Gold Mine in Your Backyard
by Charlie Lutes

Charlie Lutes was an early student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the West in the
days of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement from the late 1950's, 1960’s…

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry's Stats

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

A same scholarly tragedy as the Charlie Lutes Spiritual Regeneration Movement
(SRM) collection. That the Jarvis collection is just to end up somewhere like
in a basement at MUM and not at a real collections library.

Would the 'trust' of the MUM Trustees secure that scholars coming along could
look freely at what is left of their holding of the Jarvis collection? Could
one trust Bevan and Neil with the Jarvis collection? Manifestly, no.

No, send what has not been picked over, cherry picked, to a real library like
that at UC Santa Barbara University Library. Stop right now and ship it there.

Send your donation money there to accession the collection where it came be
freely and openly found.
Contact:
https://www.library.ucsb.edu/special-collections/collections/american-religions-collection

https://www.library.ucsb.edu/special-collections/collections/american-religions-collection

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Within a couple of years of this 1975 report, Jerry and others were out as
that epoch ended in a great leap forward with ‘teams of four’ sent out usurping
what was a then honed teaching organization. Thence in metrics TM in the
1980’s and 1990’s under a Morris-Patterson era of administration effectively
disappeared from popular culture. By y-2006 initiations in the USA were running
less than 200 per month and most assets of the teaching movement had been sold
off. From 2006 others have struggled with what was in place to re-inflate
something that was TM. Jai Guru Dev.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Dear TM Teachers and Meditators

Jerry’s Stats in the United States:
year-1975:
5799 Initiators
Initiations per Month: 16,000
440,000 meditators
World Plan Centers: 205
Satellite Centres: 173
ATR Courses given: 48
Residence SIMS Courses: Numerous
Etc.,
Source: World Plan Executive Council
First National Leaders’ Conference in the
Age of Enlightenment (1975) National Reports

In contrast, 1975:
Germany with 664 initiators doing 1000 initiations a month and 54,000
meditators,
England 305 initiators doing 1,400 initiations a month and 40,000 meditators,
France with 92 initiators initiating 250 per month & 5,577 meditators,
Sweden with 122 initiators initiating 400 per month and 27,000 meditators,
Canada with 553 initiators initiating 3,500 per month and 89,853 meditators.
..Etc.,
#

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Office of the National Director

Raja John Hagelin
Maharishi Foundation USA
PO Box 670
Fairfield, IA 52556

March 17, 2018

In Honor of Our Dear Jerry Jarvis

Dear Governors,

It is with heartfelt love and fondest memories that we announce the sudden
passing of dear Jerry Jarvis on Wednesday afternoon, at his Malibu home. In
honor of Jerry and in lieu of flowers, we are pleased to announce a special
fund to support Debby, his loving, devoted wife.

September 1961

In September of 1961, Jerry and Debby were instructed by Maharishi, and, after
their first experience of the Transcendent, knew that the direction of their
lives was forever transformed. They immediately began to study and work with
Maharishi, helping him to create and grow the U.S. and international TM®
organizations.

Science of Being and Art of Living

Jerry and Debby went on to become TM teachers in 1966 in Rishikesh, India. Both
former journalists for the Congressional Quarterly, they later helped to
transcribe and edit Maharishi’s Science of Being and Art of Living and his
translation and commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Over the next decade and a
half, Jerry rose to become the national leader of the TM organization in the
U.S., and was instrumental in developing over 400 TM Centers, which brought the
TM technique to more than one million Americans.

Maharishi’s quest to spiritually regenerate the world

The story of Maharishi’s worldwide movement is the cosmic, eternal story of the
unfoldment of pure knowledge. And there is perhaps no part of this
ever-evolving story that is more beloved than the early days, when Maharishi
first set out alone on his worldwide quest to spiritually regenerate the world.
It was Jerry’s extraordinary heart and naturally wise and mature guidance that
played such a vital role in shepherding the many newly trained, youthful TM
teachers at this early stage of Maharishi’s quickly growing organization.

Our precious times with Jerry, his ever-present, bright, shining face, and the
many wondrous, heartfelt stories, life-lessons, and beautiful examples of
purity and devotion will always be a cherished part of our TM organization’s
history.

Archives and special manuscripts of Maharishi that were donated by Jerry and
Debby will become an invaluable treasure at MUM. Once these materials are
sorted and curated, they will be available to Meditators, Sidhas, and

[FairfieldLife] Progressives v. Conservative Religionists

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Evangelist Franklin Graham: "Progressive" is just "Another Word for Godless".
 

 
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/05/28/evangelist-franklin-graham-progressive-is-just-another-word-for-godless/
 
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/05/28/evangelist-franklin-graham-progressive-is-just-another-word-for-godless/

[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

wrote :

Someone was telling that parts of the Charlie Lutes archive have been sold and
sent away, parted out. $

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Charlie Lutes Memoirs published

Maharishi gave Charlie permission to publish his account of the historic
founding of the TM Movement.

Marty Zucker’s book, “Messenger of Bliss-How Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Set Off to
Heal the World” is this historic account as it was told to him by Charlie.

This book is available for free reading as a downloadable pdf e-book.

Here is the link:

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/ eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx
http://www.self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx?

Please pass this link to your friends.

Vince

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Lecture: The Gold Mine in Your Backyard
by Charlie Lutes

Charlie Lutes was an early student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the West in the
days of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement from the late 1950's, 1960’s…

As humans we are mainly concerned with the relative, yet the absolute truth
underlies everything in creation and is the basis for all the laws of creation.
As adults, like children, we must grow into truth. Truth could not be poured
out on us indiscriminately because we would drown in truth rather than
gradually grow into, or absorb, the truth. As we grow into truth we become more
responsible and as a result more and more truth is added unto us.
For many ages the inner truths were closely guarded lest they got into the
hands of irresponsible people and were misused. Hence, the forming of secret
brotherhoods and mystery schools where only the most responsible and
trustworthy were initiated into truth under great vows of secrecy. However, now
is the time when great truths are being given out around the world for those
who have the good karma or inner desire for these revelations.
One such truth is that there is a shortcut, the Transcendental Meditation
technique, whereby we may construct a clear channel from ourselves to the
Almighty, and thereby quickly gain absolute truth without going through a long
drawn out process of evolution over ages of births and rebirths. Other great
truths are also now being given out, such as: that we are never punished for
our sins, but by them; that we are responsible for our actions and that we
judge ourselves when we get to the other side; that we are eternal and we have
everlasting life; that ultimately all souls gain mastery and that 97% of them
are not lost; that love is the motivating force of creation; that we are all
one; that destruction is not the wrath of God being visited upon the people,
rather it is nature restoring the balance thrown out by human ignorance. There
are so many truths to be given out and absorbed by so many people throughout
the world.
Finding the truth which is now widely available is like finding a gold mine in
your backyard. It is all there just for the seeking. In the close of the
Piscean Age and the beginning of the Aquarian Age we are aware of so much evil
and violence in the world, but we should be aware that there is also the
opposite being offered. And having free will we can, as always, choose the way
we wish to go. Truth is the solid foundation we should build our lives on and
in so doing we will build a structure that will withstand the ravages of time.
If we build our lives on a foundation of lies or half-truths the first storm to
assail us will carry us down the path of destruction and ruin. While we should
always accept and appreciate relative truth we should strive to move toward the
absolute truth as much as we are able.
We cannot demand truth, because truth is purity on an ascending scale. So, to
be aware of higher truths we must gain equal purity. Although humanity is
completely surrounded by truth, most of humanity is completely unaware of this.
To realize the higher truths, they must grow into the higher truths.
The purity of one thing attracts the purity of another thing. Also, the
setting for an object must be compatible with

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis to create a peaceful world

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is okay, Srijau. No, actually I was told more recently by someone who has 
been around the top administration up there for decades, someone you (safely 
anonymously) probably work with up there or have been with:
 “It was way worse than you know. Millions ($) have been spent on legal fees.”
 Sounds something like the Weinstein Company.
  
 I am not going to name names on a public forum for the same reason you and 
they do not at least going to acknowledge what went on or could start to 
apologize: liability.  
 Peace and reconciliation? Restorative Justice? 
 No, the the movement can’t be in a position of apologizing let alone be 
acknowledging:: liability lawsuit  

 However, you and others in going forward could at least state who you are 
morally, that possibly you are not their hypocrisy.  
 Or, are you and your friends enabling the past?  
 Other than denying it, how do you reconcile it? Explain how you feel about it.
 I would like to consider it. 
 Kind Regards, D
 


 Shrijau writes:
 who exactly are you trying to slander by innuendo?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 .. Is it time now for the integrity of a secular Global Union of Scientists 
for Peace, GUSP https://www.gusp.org/ https://www.gusp.org/
 as the peace movement to be even more clearly separated, detached, from from 
the Global Country of World Peace, GCWP? Is it time to clearly dissociate the 
GUSP by even burying the GCWP, their crowns and all?  
 

 
 Workplace abuse.  But, he maintains, he never sexually harassed anyone.
 

 Who could/should coordinate the body of a modern peace movement?
 Could The Global Country of World Peace (GCWP) be associated with this?  
https://www.globalcountry.org https://www.globalcountry.org
  
 


 

 Srijau writes:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 there no proof like this for anything else
 https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/ 
https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis to create a peaceful world

2018-05-28 Thread srijau

who exactly are you trying to slander by innuendo Doug?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajneesh Documenatary

2018-05-28 Thread srijau

I have yet to hear anything that justifies the #metoo hashtag.  You seemed to 
be stretching it to suit your own purposes. Show some evidence or you have 
shown yourself to be completely toxic and irresponsible.
 evidence from my side - the recent memoirs of Susan Shumsky and also Rhoda 
Orme Johnson, both critical in  their own ways but that absolutely refute what 
you are alluding to.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis to create a peaceful world

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

.. Is it time now for the integrity of a secular Global Union of Scientists for 
Peace, GUSP https://www.gusp.org/ https://www.gusp.org/
 as the peace movement to be even more clearly separated, detached, from from 
the Global Country of World Peace, GCWP? Is it time to clearly dissociate the 
GUSP by even burying the GCWP, their crowns and all?  
 

 
 Workplace abuse.  But, he maintains, he never sexually harassed anyone.
 

 Who could/should coordinate the body of a modern peace movement?
 Could The Global Country of World Peace (GCWP) be associated with this?  
https://www.globalcountry.org https://www.globalcountry.org
  
 


 

 Srijau writes:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 there no proof like this for anything else
 https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/ 
https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Morality and its Moral Compass

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

"A man learns from the company he keeps. As one's company is good or evil, so 
such things will be learned. It is a notable fact that on seeing his 
companions' behavior, a man does likewise; whether he is aware of it at all or 
not, he nevertheless acts accordingly. So the point is that man's actions and 
thoughts accord with the company he keeps. Therefore, if someone falls in with 
a bad crowd, then his actions and thoughts will be corrupted; moreover, those 
with whom he comes into contact will also sink. Hence, one should strive to 
associate with good company." -Guru Dev, SBS 
 Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati reflecting,
 You should understand that if someone is of poor character, he is not a [real] 
devotee, and is just putting on a show to cheat people. Save yourself from such 
deceitful people, and save innocent pious people from them.

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we say “Jai Guru Dev” a lot; 
 but, what did Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (Maharishi’s teacher) have 
to say 
 about morality and behavior? Let us look at this for a bit.
 Let us look more at what Maharishi’s teacher had to say about character and 
behavior...
 

 As a matter of principle, one should reject those deserving rejection and 
honor those deserving honor. If unworthy people are honored, then their number 
will increase and their stench will spoil society. -SBS
  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Consideration of bad spiritual morality and bad character in behavior runs 
throughout Brahmananda Saraswati’s discourses. Like discourses #17, 19, 22, 33, 
50 and throughout, morality by what enhances spirituality or does not as a 
litmus.

 Of bad morality and bad character different people have dealt with their 
feelings around behavior displayed in the communities ofTM differently. There 
evidently was some good, bad, and ugly in it. 
 

 Maharishi’s teacher counselled practically in his spiritual discourses on how 
to deal with bad morality and bad character. Communities continue now within TM 
and folks around TM evidently have practically taken a range of disposition 
about behavior as they see it. Not unlike what we are learning about how people 
dealt with the behavior of sexual harassment, abuse and exploitation in the 
Harvey Weinstein & that company culture example.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s teacher, (Guru Dev)Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was 
both nuanced and practical in his talks about this subject of discernment and 
spiritual morality. He taught of character and morality too as they relate to 
human spiritual evolution. Once you get in to the discourses and find his voice 
in them the teaching is practical spirituality told with a sense of humor too.  

 Teaching #19 
 The false man can get no peace even if he is as rich as Kubera (God of Wealth) 
himself.. 
 
 Because of the absence of dharma in education, people's ability to 
discriminate between do's and don'ts has weakened. People think that whatever 
they are doing is correct. The belief, "I'll go to hell if I sin," has almost 
vanished. Because of this, falsehood has exploded in society nowadays. People 
seem to think that the meaning of life is to just attain sensory pleasures. 
Further, people have become unconcerned about the means by which they obtain 
the wealth necessary to have these sensory pleasures. Even so, it is certain 
(niścita) that engaging in wrong dealings for the purpose of earning money will 
never result in peace.  
 Lack of good company (satsaïg) has increased characterlessness. Nowadays 
people do not believe they can manage without resorting to dishonesty 
(beãmanã), and they have no faith in the future or in Vi÷vambhara.64 Have faith 
in Paramàtmà, and conduct your affairs honestly. By doing so, you will feel 
satisfied in this life, and satisfaction is the true form of happiness. As it 
is said, santoùa paramaü sukham.65 A liar cannot be peaceful in this life even 
if he is as rich as Kubera. He will always be doubtful and his heart will burn 
[anxiously]. Thus he will not be happy in this world, and even in the other 
world, he will be ruined. 
 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What is Conscionable?
 

 Those voices recorded on all sides of the Rajneeshpuram documentary are such 
studies in dynamic of trust: from a trusting ‘benefit of doubt’ to extending 
trust, to violating trust. Bad character in trust evidently is consequently 
hurtful spiritually as it happens.   
 

 Teaching #22 
 “Honor those who deserve honor, disdain those who deserve disdain. 
 
 Mingling with characterless people is like listening to the Gãtagovinda or 
Sårsàgar from a whore. If you drink water from the Ganges, take it from where 
the stream is clean; don't drink Ganges water flowing from a gutter. If a 
teacher is of good character, then listen to him. If you follow the words

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time Travel and Warp drives may be possible

2018-05-28 Thread Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 If an electron can be observed as a wave or a particle, why does that mean the 
universe is not objective? The difference shows during different measurements 
at different times. Water can be liquid or solid at different times, but that 
does not mean it is not objective.
Campbell's ideas have not been well received by other physicists. A lot of 
people watch his videos, but unless his ideas are accepted on a wider scale in 
his own discipline, he will remain on the fringe as having interesting but 
unconfirmed ideas.
Because lay people really don't understand physics, having a large following of 
people who cannot evaluate what is being said is not confirmation on the truth 
of what is said. That does not mean we should not listen to his ideas.


On Monday, May 28, 2018, 4:58:15 AM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:  
 
     

Archonangel,
Here's a video interview of Tom Campbell explaining the double slit experiment 
showing the electron as a wave or a particle.  By extension, the experiment 
shows that our universe is not an objective reality since the results show the 
electron can be a wave or a particle.  If the electron path is measured at the 
slits, the electron will show as a particle.  If the electron is not measured, 
the electron will show on the screen as a defraction pattern, meaning it is a 
wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hzSjnPikIU
For more explanation, please watch his other presentations in a seminar setting 
at the various locations, such as Spokane, WA or in Spain.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Archonangel,
You should watch Tom Campbell's seminars on YouTube.  In them, he explains 
clearly that the universe is not based on matter, but rather on information, 
which leads us to conclude that the universe is a simulation or virtual 
reality, like a computer game in a giant cosmic computer and shown before our 
own eyes, and we are participants of this virtual reality.  Campbell also 
mentions the erasure experiment which clearly shows that the universe data can 
be erased and we can experience the results with awe.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Physics is all about matter, quantum fields, gravitational fields are all 
matter.
In physics, a field is a physical quantity, represented by a number or tensor, 
that has a value for each point in space and time.  (Wikipedia)Consciousness 
does not yet have a definition in physics or in science in general; while we 
know we are conscious, this factor does not yet appear in physics. 
Science has no agreed upon definition of what consciousness is. All we know is 
there are physical correlates in the brain to our experience. 
Some physicists believe consciousness may be something different from matter, 
while others think consciousness is physical, but these are beliefs based 
largely on speculation because the answer is not known.

For one thing, if consciousness is not physical then it lies outside what 
physics can experiment upon, and thus it cannot be shown that the physical 
world is based on it.
Getting physics information from youtube.com videos is fraught with unverified 
speculations.
All this comes about by indiscriminately mixing physics and spiritual ideas.. 

 

 On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 3:48:50 PM GMT, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:


 

Brumah,
Physics experiments by researchers in academia have shown that the world is not 
based on matter, but is based on information or consciousness.  A good example 
is the results in the double-slit experiment.  As such, there may be some 
protocols in the future that can make these "fantasies" real.  The ancient 
Vedic texts have mentioned rishis like Narada to travel to "other worlds" just 
by mantra alone.  I believe that's what MMY was trying to do with the siddhis 
and the flying sutra.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Delusional infantile fantasy would be a more apt and accurate take on this 
childish nonsense, i.e., as far as "time travel" is concerned. Science fiction 
fueled by science fantasy; the contemporary world is awash with this type of 
nonsense.

Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

 
 On May 24, 2018 5:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:
 

  




Given the new scientific paradigms that are being set by scientists like Tom 
Campbell and researchers in academia, we're finding out that the universe is a 
simulation and is a virtual reality like a computer game in a cosmic computer.  
In essence, everything is based on information, like 0's and 1's in a computer 
program.  When the next genius, like Einstein, comes around he or she may find 
a way to program Nature to travel in time or travel in warp speeds.  From what 
I'm foreseeing,  objective science and materialism are not the key to 
understand Nature and the universe.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6a667085-b566-3296-8b08-872403f798d9/ss_the-us-military-released-a.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Someone was telling that parts of the Charlie Lutes archive have been sold and
sent away, parted out. $

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Charlie Lutes Memoirs published

Maharishi gave Charlie permission to publish his account of the historic
founding of the TM Movement.

Marty Zucker’s book, “Messenger of Bliss-How Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Set Off to
Heal the World” is this historic account as it was told to him by Charlie.

This book is available for free reading as a downloadable pdf e-book.

Here is the link:

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/ eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx
http://www.self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx?

Please pass this link to your friends.

Vince

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Lecture: The Gold Mine in Your Backyard
by Charlie Lutes

Charlie Lutes was an early student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the West in the
days of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement from the late 1950's, 1960’s…

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time Travel and Warp drives may be possible

2018-05-28 Thread Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

A single person explaining something does not mean it is correct. Information
is a pattern in matter and as matter is equivalent to energy (Einstein), it is
also a pattern in energy. On a printed page, or as electrons in a computer,
information exists in the form of matter.
There is the reality of the senses, and there is the reality fashioned by the
mind, which is a virtual reality in the form of thoughts.
If the reality of the universe is it is based on information, then this
contradicts the Vedic view (and other spiritual system views) that the universe
is based on consciousness. Pure consciousness has no qualities, it is
completely simple and so contains no information. Perhaps it is there as
potential.
Information occurs when complete simplicity is subdivided. How this happens is
unknown. Vedic sources call it Maya. The idea here is if Maya can be lifted,
the actual reality can be experienced and the virtual reality in the mind is
canceled. The mistake of the intellect is removed.
There is always a paradox when everything is brought together because the mind
cannot think except in terms of differences. But it is possible to experience
beyond this aspect of mind.
On Monday, May 28, 2018, 2:51:20 AM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

Archonangel,
You should watch Tom Campbell's seminars on YouTube. In them, he explains
clearly that the universe is not based on matter, but rather on information,
which leads us to conclude that the universe is a simulation or virtual
reality, like a computer game in a giant cosmic computer and shown before our
own eyes, and we are participants of this virtual reality. Campbell also
mentions the erasure experiment which clearly shows that the universe data can
be erased and we can experience the results with awe.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Physics is all about matter, quantum fields, gravitational fields are all
matter.
In physics, a field is a physical quantity, represented by a number or tensor,
that has a value for each point in space and time. (Wikipedia)Consciousness
does not yet have a definition in physics or in science in general; while we
know we are conscious, this factor does not yet appear in physics.
Science has no agreed upon definition of what consciousness is. All we know is
there are physical correlates in the brain to our experience.
Some physicists believe consciousness may be something different from matter,
while others think consciousness is physical, but these are beliefs based
largely on speculation because the answer is not known.

For one thing, if consciousness is not physical then it lies outside what
physics can experiment upon, and thus it cannot be shown that the physical
world is based on it.
Getting physics information from youtube.com videos is fraught with unverified
speculations.
All this comes about by indiscriminately mixing physics and spiritual ideas..

On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 3:48:50 PM GMT, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

Brumah,
Physics experiments by researchers in academia have shown that the world is not
based on matter, but is based on information or consciousness. A good example
is the results in the double-slit experiment. As such, there may be some
protocols in the future that can make these "fantasies" real. The ancient
Vedic texts have mentioned rishis like Narada to travel to "other worlds" just
by mantra alone. I believe that's what MMY was trying to do with the siddhis
and the flying sutra.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Delusional infantile fantasy would be a more apt and accurate take on this
childish nonsense, i.e., as far as "time travel" is concerned. Science fiction
fueled by science fantasy; the contemporary world is awash with this type of
nonsense.

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On May 24, 2018 5:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

Given the new scientific paradigms that are being set by scientists like Tom
Campbell and researchers in academia, we're finding out that the universe is a
simulation and is a virtual reality like a computer game in a cosmic computer.
In essence, everything is based on information, like 0's and 1's in a computer
program. When the next genius, like Einstein, comes around he or she may find
a way to program Nature to travel in time or travel in warp speeds. From what
I'm foreseeing, objective science and materialism are not the key to
understand Nature and the universe.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6a667085-b566-3296-8b08-872403f798d9/ss_the-us-military-released-a.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Morality and its Moral Compass

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati reflecting,
 You should understand that if someone is of poor character, he is not a [real] 
devotee, and is just putting on a show to cheat people. Save yourself from such 
deceitful people, and save innocent pious people from them.

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we say “Jai Guru Dev” a lot; 
 but, what did Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (Maharishi’s teacher) have 
to say 
 about morality and behavior? Let us look at this for a bit.
 Let us look more at what Maharishi’s teacher had to say about character and 
behavior...
 

 As a matter of principle, one should reject those deserving rejection and 
honor those deserving honor. If unworthy people are honored, then their number 
will increase and their stench will spoil society. -SBS
  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Consideration of bad spiritual morality and bad character in behavior runs 
throughout Brahmananda Saraswati’s discourses. Like discourses #17, 19, 22, 33, 
50 and throughout, morality by what enhances spirituality or does not as a 
litmus.

 Of bad morality and bad character different people have dealt with their 
feelings around behavior displayed in the communities ofTM differently. There 
evidently was some good, bad, and ugly in it. 
 

 Maharishi’s teacher counselled practically in his spiritual discourses on how 
to deal with bad morality and bad character. Communities continue now within TM 
and folks around TM evidently have practically taken a range of disposition 
about behavior as they see it. Not unlike what we are learning about how people 
dealt with the behavior of sexual harassment, abuse and exploitation in the 
Harvey Weinstein & that company culture example.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s teacher, (Guru Dev)Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was 
both nuanced and practical in his talks about this subject of discernment and 
spiritual morality. He taught of character and morality too as they relate to 
human spiritual evolution. Once you get in to the discourses and find his voice 
in them the teaching is practical spirituality told with a sense of humor too.  

 Teaching #19 
 The false man can get no peace even if he is as rich as Kubera (God of Wealth) 
himself.. 
 
 Because of the absence of dharma in education, people's ability to 
discriminate between do's and don'ts has weakened. People think that whatever 
they are doing is correct. The belief, "I'll go to hell if I sin," has almost 
vanished. Because of this, falsehood has exploded in society nowadays. People 
seem to think that the meaning of life is to just attain sensory pleasures. 
Further, people have become unconcerned about the means by which they obtain 
the wealth necessary to have these sensory pleasures. Even so, it is certain 
(niścita) that engaging in wrong dealings for the purpose of earning money will 
never result in peace.  
 Lack of good company (satsaïg) has increased characterlessness. Nowadays 
people do not believe they can manage without resorting to dishonesty 
(beãmanã), and they have no faith in the future or in Vi÷vambhara.64 Have faith 
in Paramàtmà, and conduct your affairs honestly. By doing so, you will feel 
satisfied in this life, and satisfaction is the true form of happiness. As it 
is said, santoùa paramaü sukham.65 A liar cannot be peaceful in this life even 
if he is as rich as Kubera. He will always be doubtful and his heart will burn 
[anxiously]. Thus he will not be happy in this world, and even in the other 
world, he will be ruined. 
 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What is Conscionable?
 

 Those voices recorded on all sides of the Rajneeshpuram documentary are such 
studies in dynamic of trust: from a trusting ‘benefit of doubt’ to extending 
trust, to violating trust. Bad character in trust evidently is consequently 
hurtful spiritually as it happens.   
 

 Teaching #22 
 “Honor those who deserve honor, disdain those who deserve disdain. 
 
 Mingling with characterless people is like listening to the Gãtagovinda or 
Sårsàgar from a whore. If you drink water from the Ganges, take it from where 
the stream is clean; don't drink Ganges water flowing from a gutter. If a 
teacher is of good character, then listen to him. If you follow the words of a 
characterless person, it only serves to magnify your own lack of character. 
 The character of a Bhagavàn devotee must be exceedingly good. You should 
understand that if someone is of poor character, he is not a [real] devotee, 
and is just putting on a show to cheat people. Save yourself from such 
deceitful people, and save innocent pious people from them. 
 

 Only he who is endowed with character is fit to be respected. A sweetmeat 
(laóóå) made of bad ghee will be crooked and bad; but when made of pure ghee, 
its shape will be good. If somebody declares that he is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rajneesh Documenatary

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

One of the other women now.  
 Rick Archer recently in a FF grocery mentioned there is another book, a 
#MeToo, being published by one of the women Maharishi evidently had. Apparently 
a university professor now is reflecting on the consequence of that in her 
life. Also apparently is going to visit Fairfield as the book releases. 
 

 I recall when Rick was bringing the other skin carriers out about Maharishi 
and the Judith Bourque Feet of Clay book https://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/ 
https://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/
 was published, As that book was published and came out there was another woman 
who surfaced on FairfieldLife then and told then of MeToo. This second was a 
very clear voice and then disappeared. 

 The movement patriarchy can reconcile this rising of the matriarchy? 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The David Wants to Fly film in fact was a visual inside a community that most 
only heard whisperings about. 


 

Srijau contends, it was an ugly devious exploitative misrepresentation. that 
you suggest that it was meaningful to more than you confirms the worst about 
yourself. Name one person who agrees with you about this film being a watershed 
moment for anyone in the movement. I have seen two critical memoirs that came 
out recently that make no mention of at all, even Susan Shumsky's recitation of 
every major scandal mentions it not at all.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 David Wants to Fly brought focus to what people inside and around the 
community of TM evidently were feeling as to what was happening, That there was 
attrition, a withdrawal in communal numbers even before Maharishi passed away, 
David Wants to Fly put faces to the effects of use of power, money and sex in 
the group.  
 In something like a bell-shaped curve a spectrum of our affiliated, 
disaffiliating and unaffiliated people has broadened. Where once were thousands 
of teachers and meditators, the Domes have but hundreds in them now. Evidently 
there is a reality to this that seems yet to be entirely reconciled by a 
community in it. 
 

 Srijau writes: it wasn't a watershed and you know it.
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Reconciling the good, the bad and the ugly David Wants to Fly was a watershed 
for people around the TM community (2010).  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wants_to_Fly 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wants_to_Fly   
 A lot of people had left the meditating community before then and the 
community has gotten down now to what it is, knowing better.  There is an old 
hymn about loss of shakti in spiritual movements at a time that captures states 
of desolation once a shakti has departed..  

 Well may Thy servants mourn, my God,
 The Church’s desolation;
 The state of Zion calls aloud
 For grief and lamentation.
 Once she was all alive to Thee
 And thousands were converted,
 But now a sad reverse we see,
 Her glory is departed.

 And has religion left the Church
 Without a trace behind her?
 Where shall I go, where shall I search,
 That I once more may find her?
 Adieu, ye proud, ye light and gay,
 I’ll seek the brokenhearted,
 Who weep when they of Zion say,
 Her glory is departed.

 Some few, like good Elijah stand,
 While thousands have revolted,
 In earnest for the heav’nly land
 They never yet have halted.
 With such religion doth remain,
 For they are not perverted;
 Oh may they all through men regain
 The glory that’s departed.

 srijau writes:
 David wants to Fly is not around so much because people found it so ugly, 
mean-spirited, exploitative. Thats just nasty of you to even bring it up.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Studies in broken trust.. 
 In a genre, the David Wants to Fly documentary of the TM community, this would 
seem to be also of a kind of study of broken trust in spiritual and religious 
community. 
 David Wants to Fly  video used to be more readily available to find and was 
shared more widely around the TM community when it was released. These two 
documentaries may put bracket to ‘guru from India’ exploitation in the West. 

 DAVID WANTS TO FLY - Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv9264FXazc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv9264FXazc
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One can see this Rajaneesh documentary itself is going to be at the 
intersection of how people look at or study spiritual groups in American 
culture. 

Using Rajneeshpuram this film does quite the good job in a documentary format 
of touching on a range of separate spiritual groups within American society, 
showcasing reactionary evangelicals, Eastern, New Age, Jonestown, regional 
cultures and civil society. Now in a comparison with Fairfield, Iowa the 
repeating question coming for a long time of those who may have lived in 
Fairfield will be, “Have you seen the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A [TM] Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Charlie Lutes Memoirs published

Maharishi gave Charlie permission to publish his account of the historic
founding of the TM Movement.

Marty Zucker’s book, “Messenger of Bliss-How Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Set Off to
Heal the World” is this historic account as it was told to him by Charlie.

This book is available for free reading as a downloadable pdf e-book.

Here is the link:

http://www.self.gutenberg.org/ eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx
http://www.self.gutenberg.org/eBooks/WPLBN013011.aspx?

Please pass this link to your friends.

Vince

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Lecture: The Gold Mine in Your Backyard
by Charlie Lutes

Charlie Lutes was an early student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the West in the
days of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement from the late 1950's, 1960’s…

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis to create a peaceful world

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Workplace abuse.  But, he maintains, he never sexually harassed anyone.
 

 Who could/should coordinate the body of a modern peace movement?
 Could The Global Country of World Peace (GCWP) be associated with this?  
https://www.globalcountry.org https://www.globalcountry.org
  
 


 

 Srijau writes:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 there no proof like this for anything else
 https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/ 
https://www.gusp.org/defusing-world-crises/scientific-research/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Morality and its Moral Compass

2018-05-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

In TM we say “Jai Guru Dev” a lot; but, what did Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati (Maharishi’s teacher) have to say about morality and behavior? Let us 
look at this for a bit.
 Let us look more at what Maharishi’s teacher had to say about character and 
behavior...
 

 As a matter of principle, one should reject those deserving rejection and 
honor those deserving honor. If unworthy people are honored, then their number 
will increase and their stench will spoil society. -SBS
  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Consideration of bad spiritual morality and bad character in behavior runs 
throughout Brahmananda Saraswati’s discourses. Like discourses #17, 19, 22, 33, 
50 and throughout, morality by what enhances spirituality or does not as a 
litmus.

 Of bad morality and bad character different people have dealt with their 
feelings around behavior displayed in the communities ofTM differently. There 
evidently was some good, bad, and ugly in it. 
 

 Maharishi’s teacher counselled practically in his spiritual discourses on how 
to deal with bad morality and bad character. Communities continue now within TM 
and folks around TM evidently have practically taken a range of disposition 
about behavior as they see it. Not unlike what we are learning about how people 
dealt with the behavior of sexual harassment, abuse and exploitation in the 
Harvey Weinstein & that company culture example.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s teacher, (Guru Dev)Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was 
both nuanced and practical in his talks about this subject of discernment and 
spiritual morality. He taught of character and morality too as they relate to 
human spiritual evolution. Once you get in to the discourses and find his voice 
in them the teaching is practical spirituality told with a sense of humor too.  

 Teaching #19 
 The false man can get no peace even if he is as rich as Kubera (God of Wealth) 
himself.. 
 
 Because of the absence of dharma in education, people's ability to 
discriminate between do's and don'ts has weakened. People think that whatever 
they are doing is correct. The belief, "I'll go to hell if I sin," has almost 
vanished. Because of this, falsehood has exploded in society nowadays. People 
seem to think that the meaning of life is to just attain sensory pleasures. 
Further, people have become unconcerned about the means by which they obtain 
the wealth necessary to have these sensory pleasures. Even so, it is certain 
(niścita) that engaging in wrong dealings for the purpose of earning money will 
never result in peace.  
 Lack of good company (satsaïg) has increased characterlessness. Nowadays 
people do not believe they can manage without resorting to dishonesty 
(beãmanã), and they have no faith in the future or in Vi÷vambhara.64 Have faith 
in Paramàtmà, and conduct your affairs honestly. By doing so, you will feel 
satisfied in this life, and satisfaction is the true form of happiness. As it 
is said, santoùa paramaü sukham.65 A liar cannot be peaceful in this life even 
if he is as rich as Kubera. He will always be doubtful and his heart will burn 
[anxiously]. Thus he will not be happy in this world, and even in the other 
world, he will be ruined. 
 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What is Conscionable?
 

 Those voices recorded on all sides of the Rajneeshpuram documentary are such 
studies in dynamic of trust: from a trusting ‘benefit of doubt’ to extending 
trust, to violating trust. Bad character in trust evidently is consequently 
hurtful spiritually as it happens.   
 

 Teaching #22 
 “Honor those who deserve honor, disdain those who deserve disdain. 
 
 Mingling with characterless people is like listening to the Gãtagovinda or 
Sårsàgar from a whore. If you drink water from the Ganges, take it from where 
the stream is clean; don't drink Ganges water flowing from a gutter. If a 
teacher is of good character, then listen to him. If you follow the words of a 
characterless person, it only serves to magnify your own lack of character. 
 The character of a Bhagavàn devotee must be exceedingly good. You should 
understand that if someone is of poor character, he is not a [real] devotee, 
and is just putting on a show to cheat people. Save yourself from such 
deceitful people, and save innocent pious people from them. 
 

 Only he who is endowed with character is fit to be respected. A sweetmeat 
(laóóå) made of bad ghee will be crooked and bad; but when made of pure ghee, 
its shape will be good. If somebody declares that he is spreading devotional 
teachings of Bhagavàn, then he should have an impeccable character. Only then 
will people know that through devotion to Bhagavàn (the Transcendent), all past 
sins can be destroyed and present problems can be overcome.  
 
 
 As a matter

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