[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

...They offered themselves willingly to death in a cause vital and dear to 
humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and looking at it 
in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that they 
had and were When I think of what these men suffered and did...I marvel 
with a wonder which is admiration We have come here, friends, not for 
things that die, but for things that cannot die For human History is not a 
Dead Sea, it is a flowing river


Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could you 
justify

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> anything else in human history.
>

Okay, Dear Turq;
I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will solve most,
yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course is
abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on this like
a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we are in
presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join with
us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the best of
interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is the
noblest of causes. Ours is the last battle of Peace everywhere. It may require
some sacrifice. Now is not the time to shirk away. Join now with the Field
Effect, come with us to meditation.
Kindly,
-Buck in the Dome

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Buck in Dome down the hill, I'll remember this when I'm tempted to 
> > skip evening Dome 
> > 
> > Share in Dome up on ridge also inspired by the heroes and heroesses
> 
> yes, many who have come to meditate in the community commonly hold these 
> strong heroic traits.  It is part of what makes Fairfield special and 
> spiritually quite interesting.
> Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti,
> Buck 
> 
> 
> > on FFL who 
> > 
> > defend those with none else
> > 
> > raise teens singlehandedly with humor and compassion
> > 
> > brave taiphoons, earthquakes, death with a big grin and poetry
> > face ones past head on ruthlessly and gracefully
> > 
> > create incredible forums and interview cool peeps
> > continue to share beautiful crop circles even tho others mock
> > give lurkive support and laughter
> > 
> > etc
> > Sure I missed someone
> > please add to list  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:33 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Heroic Fairfield Meditators
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > The people who came to Fairfield to meditate
> > are they more heroes or bystanders?
> > 
> > "Empathy, or care or concern for others, runs high in people with heroic 
> > tendencies,"
> > 
> > "A tendency to frame events positively and expect good outcomes is another 
> > hallmark of heroes,"
> > 
> > "Heroic people also tend to have a strong sense of ethics and above-average 
> > coping skillsâ€"a belief in their ability to tackle challenges and beat the 
> > odds, research shows."
> > 
> > "Values that inspire heroism are often taught in childhood;"  
> > 
> > http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BJ215_WORKFA_NS_20120821222902.jpg
> > 
> > WSJ article on traits between heroes or bystanders,
> > 
> > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Darticle
> > 
> > 
> > The courage factor:
> > 
> > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the town whose 
name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our own. Take strength from 
one more touch, ere we pass afar from the closeness of old. The old is young 
to-day; and the young is passed. Survivors of the fittest,—for the fittest, it 
seems to us, abide in the glory where we saw them last,—take the grasp of 
hands, and look into the eyes, without words! Who shall tell what is past and 
what survives? For there are things born but lately in the years, which belong 
to the eternities.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> ...They offered themselves willingly to death in a cause vital and dear to 
> humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and looking at 
> it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that 
> they had and were When I think of what these men suffered and did...I 
> marvel with a wonder which is admiration We have come here, friends, not 
> for things that die, but for things that cannot die For human History is 
> not a Dead Sea, it is a flowing river
> 
> 
> Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could you 
> justify
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > anything else in human history.
> >
> 
> Okay, Dear Turq;
> I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will solve 
> most,
> yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course is
> abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on this like
> a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we are in
> presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join with
> us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the best of
> interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is the
> noblest of causes. Ours is the last battle of Peace everywhere. It may require
> some sacrifice. Now is not the time to shirk away. Join now with the Field
> Effect, come with us to meditation.
> Kindly,
> -Buck in the Dome
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Buck in Dome down the hill, I'll remember this when I'm tempted to 
> > > skip evening Dome 
> > > 
> > > Share in Dome up on ridge also inspired by the heroes and heroesses
> > 
> > yes, many who have come to meditate in the community commonly hold these 
> > strong heroic traits.  It is part of what makes Fairfield special and 
> > spiritually quite interesting.
> > Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti,
> > Buck 
> > 
> > 
> > > on FFL who 
> > > 
> > > defend those with none else
> > > 
> > > raise teens singlehandedly with humor and compassion
> > > 
> > > brave taiphoons, earthquakes, death with a big grin and poetry
> > > face ones past head on ruthlessly and gracefully
> > > 
> > > create incredible forums and interview cool peeps
> > > continue to share beautiful crop circles even tho others mock
> > > give lurkive support and laughter
> > > 
> > > etc
> > > Sure I missed someone
> > > please add to list  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Heroic Fairfield Meditators
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > The people who came to Fairfield to meditate
> > > are they more heroes or bystanders?
> > > 
> > > "Empathy, or care or concern for others, runs high in people with heroic 
> > > tendencies,"
> > > 
> > > "A tendency to frame events positively and expect good outcomes is 
> > > another hallmark of heroes,"
> > > 
> > > "Heroic people also tend to have a strong sense of ethics and 
> > > above-average coping skillsâ€"a belief in their ability to tackle 
> > > challenges and beat the odds, research shows."
> > > 
> > > "Values that inspire heroism are often taught in childhood;"  
> > > 
> > > http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BJ215_WORKFA_NS_20120821222902.jpg
> > > 
> > > WSJ article on traits between heroes or bystanders,
> > > 
> > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Darticle
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The courage factor:
> > > 
> > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

>
> Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with 
> passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 
> 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in 
> Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the 
> costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to 
> accommodate them.
>

The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and 
heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have received 
$350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge accomplishment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our 
spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and such 
ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know 
what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that 
calls to noble action.


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally
> > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> numbers
> > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> initiated
> > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> >
> > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > accomplishment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

They have given their best for something held dearer than joy—something of good 
beyond their personal experience; the giving of which, in this world's 
estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be justified by your understanding 
but only in your overpassing faith.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the town 
> whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our own. Take 
> strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the closeness of old. The 
> old is young to-day; and the young is passed. Survivors of the fittest,—for 
> the fittest, it seems to us, abide in the glory where we saw them last,—take 
> the grasp of hands, and look into the eyes, without words! Who shall tell 
> what is past and what survives? For there are things born but lately in the 
> years, which belong to the eternities.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > ...They offered themselves willingly to death in a cause vital and dear to 
> > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and looking 
> > at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all 
> > that they had and were When I think of what these men suffered and 
> > did...I marvel with a wonder which is admiration We have come here, 
> > friends, not for things that die, but for things that cannot die For 
> > human History is not a Dead Sea, it is a flowing river
> > 
> > 
> > Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could 
> > you justify
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > > anything else in human history.
> > >
> > 
> > Okay, Dear Turq;
> > I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will solve 
> > most,
> > yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course is
> > abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on this 
> > like
> > a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we are 
> > in
> > presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join with
> > us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the best of
> > interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is the
> > noblest of causes. Ours is the last battle of Peace everywhere. It may 
> > require
> > some sacrifice. Now is not the time to shirk away. Join now with the Field
> > Effect, come with us to meditation.
> > Kindly,
> > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Buck in Dome down the hill, I'll remember this when I'm tempted 
> > > > to skip evening Dome 
> > > > 
> > > > Share in Dome up on ridge also inspired by the heroes and heroesses
> > > 
> > > yes, many who have come to meditate in the community commonly hold these 
> > > strong heroic traits.  It is part of what makes Fairfield special and 
> > > spiritually quite interesting.
> > > Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti,
> > > Buck 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > on FFL who 
> > > > 
> > > > defend those with none else
> > > > 
> > > > raise teens singlehandedly with humor and compassion
> > > > 
> > > > brave taiphoons, earthquakes, death with a big grin and poetry
> > > > face ones past head on ruthlessly and gracefully
> > > > 
> > > > create incredible forums and interview cool peeps
> > > > continue to share beautiful crop circles even tho others mock
> > > > give lurkive support and laughter
> > > > 
> > > > etc
> > > > Sure I missed someone
> > > > please add to list  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, Aug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so lived...that 
they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to humanity; and 
what is more, a cause they comprehended as such, and looking at it, in all its 
bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that they had and 
were This comprehension of the cause—this intelligent devotion—this 
deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in testimony of their 
loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators worthy of honor today, and these 
lives equal to the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was 
worthy but that they were worthy.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> They have given their best for something held dearer than joy—something of 
> good beyond their personal experience; the giving of which, in this world's 
> estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be justified by your understanding 
> but only in your overpassing faith.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the town 
> > whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our own. Take 
> > strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the closeness of old. 
> > The old is young to-day; and the young is passed. Survivors of the 
> > fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to us, abide in the glory where we saw 
> > them last,—take the grasp of hands, and look into the eyes, without words! 
> > Who shall tell what is past and what survives? For there are things born 
> > but lately in the years, which belong to the eternities.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > ...They offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and looking 
> > > at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it 
> > > all that they had and were When I think of what these men suffered 
> > > and did...I marvel with a wonder which is admiration We have come 
> > > here, friends, not for things that die, but for things that cannot 
> > > die For human History is not a Dead Sea, it is a flowing river
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could 
> > > you justify
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > > > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > > > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > > > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > > > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > > > anything else in human history.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Okay, Dear Turq;
> > > I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will 
> > > solve most,
> > > yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course is
> > > abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on this 
> > > like
> > > a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we 
> > > are in
> > > presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join 
> > > with
> > > us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the best 
> > > of
> > > interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is the
> > > noblest of causes. Ours is the last battle of Peace everywhere. It may 
> > > require
> > > some sacrifice. Now is not the time to shirk away. Join now with the Field
> > > Effect, come with us to meditation.
> > > Kindly,
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Buck in Dome down the hill, I'll remember this when I'm 
> > > > > tempted to skip evening Dome 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Share in Dome up on ridge also inspired by the heroes and heroesses
> > > > 
> > > > yes, many who have come to meditate in the community commonly hold 
> > > > these strong 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind traverse 
the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a great, momentous 
struggle like this here, it is character that tells. I do not mean simply nor 
chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who may become surprised or 
disconcerted at a sudden change in the posture of affairs. What I mean by 
character is a firm seasoned substance of soul. I mean such qualities or 
acquirements as intelligence, thoughtfulness, conscientiousness, 
rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering and unconquerable 
resolve 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as such, and looking at 
> it, in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that 
> they had and were This comprehension of the cause—this intelligent 
> devotion—this deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in 
> testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators worthy of 
> honor today, and these lives equal to the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not 
> merely that the cause was worthy but that they were worthy.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > They have given their best for something held dearer than joy—something of 
> > good beyond their personal experience; the giving of which, in this world's 
> > estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be justified by your 
> > understanding but only in your overpassing faith.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the town 
> > > whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our own. Take 
> > > strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the closeness of old. 
> > > The old is young to-day; and the young is passed. Survivors of the 
> > > fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to us, abide in the glory where we saw 
> > > them last,—take the grasp of hands, and look into the eyes, without 
> > > words! Who shall tell what is past and what survives? For there are 
> > > things born but lately in the years, which belong to the eternities.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...They offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > > > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and 
> > > > looking at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly 
> > > > pledged to it all that they had and were When I think of what these 
> > > > men suffered and did...I marvel with a wonder which is admiration 
> > > > We have come here, friends, not for things that die, but for things 
> > > > that cannot die For human History is not a Dead Sea, it is a 
> > > > flowing river
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what 
> > > > could you justify
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > > > > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > > > > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > > > > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > > > > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > > > > anything else in human history.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Okay, Dear Turq;
> > > > I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will 
> > > > solve most,
> > > > yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course 
> > > > is
> > > > abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on 
> > > > this like
> > > > a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we 
> > > > are in
> > > > presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join 
> > > > with
> > > > us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the 
> > > > best of
> > > > interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is 
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle

[Buck]

Yes, really great core spiritual values.  "Not that it is the easy thing to do, 
but the right thing to do".  So like meditating.  Or, likewise: "Being a 
meditator doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are."  and "It's about 
the difference you make in people's lives".   Four more years, a vote for 
Barack is a vote for Michelle.  I'd bet good money they are both meditators 
from the Students International Meditation Society days.

-Buck in the Dome 

She's on YouTube now,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTPdKUA9Ipg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Glad you enjoyed itkeep in touch with your heart now and the immigrants 
> that your ancestors were :)
> 
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:06 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle
>  
> 
>   
> Her delivery was outstanding and it was a well crafted speech the only thing 
> missing were violins in the background, snif. ;-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Yep, she gave a great speech; such a good public/motivational speaker. 
> >  I tuned in expecting to be bored and annoyed, but no...it was worth it. 
> >    
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Duveyoung 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:19 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Michelle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > I thought I was so over it. 
> > 
> > You know, jaded and armored now against all visions of others.  No bait 
> > could catch me now, nope.
> > 
> > MICHELLE! 
> > 
> > I'm still a total sucker for pure heartedness. I can still  be had.
> > 
> > Like tonight for instance.
> > 
> > Edg
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching before and 
after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done in the soul.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind traverse 
> the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a great, momentous 
> struggle like this here, it is character that tells. I do not mean simply nor 
> chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who may become surprised or 
> disconcerted at a sudden change in the posture of affairs. What I mean by 
> character is a firm seasoned substance of soul. I mean such qualities or 
> acquirements as intelligence, thoughtfulness, conscientiousness, 
> rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering and unconquerable 
> resolve 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as such, and looking 
> > at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all 
> > that they had and were This comprehension of the cause—this intelligent 
> > devotion—this deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in 
> > testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators worthy of 
> > honor today, and these lives equal to the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not 
> > merely that the cause was worthy but that they were worthy.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > They have given their best for something held dearer than joy—something 
> > > of good beyond their personal experience; the giving of which, in this 
> > > world's estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be justified by your 
> > > understanding but only in your overpassing faith.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the 
> > > > town whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our own. 
> > > > Take strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the closeness 
> > > > of old. The old is young to-day; and the young is passed. Survivors of 
> > > > the fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to us, abide in the glory where 
> > > > we saw them last,—take the grasp of hands, and look into the eyes, 
> > > > without words! Who shall tell what is past and what survives? For there 
> > > > are things born but lately in the years, which belong to the eternities.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ...They offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > > > > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and 
> > > > > looking at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly 
> > > > > pledged to it all that they had and were When I think of what 
> > > > > these men suffered and did...I marvel with a wonder which is 
> > > > > admiration We have come here, friends, not for things that die, 
> > > > > but for things that cannot die For human History is not a Dead 
> > > > > Sea, it is a flowing river
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what 
> > > > > could you justify
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > > > > > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > > > > > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > > > > > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > > > > > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > > > > > anything else in human history.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Okay, Dear Turq;
> > > > > I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will 
> > > > > solve most,
> > > > > yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of 
> > > > > course is
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was the Maharishi confused? (or just being clever).

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
>
> Doc sez, A saint will not do harm.
>

In effect only?  "...and began driving out those who were buying and selling 
there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those 
selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the 
temple." 

Evidently He used pretty rough theatre as a saint too.

What if the saint were the money-changer to get the good effect? Is the Doc 
sez-ing that Maharishi-ji was no saint?  Would using some peoples' lusts and 
vices like he did as a means towards a great collective spiritual ends be okay? 
 You know, a little harm towards the Great end?

Despite his more mortal human failings and his haters I bet he'll be listed as 
one of the 20th Century's greatest saints in the same breath along with 
Yogananda when people recount the period.

Kindly,
-Buck in the Dome


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guusschilder"  wrote:
> >
> > There is NOTHING that a "Saint" will nòt do. 
> > That's the nice thing about saints: 
> > they will never fit into the prison of our(need for)definitions.
> > _
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > Notice how MMY used to say that TM was all you needed to improve your 
> > > life and reach enlightenment? CC,GC and UC. So in his lectures he 
> > > suggested that all eight limbs of Patanjali weren't actually  necessary, 
> > > right? They (Yama and NIyama) were, as the tmorg still says, the 'ends' 
> > > and not the 'means', right?
> > >  
> > > But when you read MMY's Bhagavad Gita he says (in the appendix under 
> > > Yoga) that Patanjali meant for ALL eight limbs to be practiced 
> > > *simultaneously* (quote, MMY). Go figure? was MMY confused or just being 
> > > clever? (I think the later). 
> > > 
> > > So the question arises, "is this something a 'saint' would do"? and "do 
> > > the ends justify the means" as MMY so often made it appear?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa applications.


>
> We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our 
> spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and 
> such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine 
> and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour 
> strikes, that calls to noble action.
> 
> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally
> > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > numbers
> > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > initiated
> > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > >
> > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > accomplishment.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditating, In the Golden Dome

[Buck]

Friends, spirit does define us. This reminds me, in the words of scripture, 
that ours is a "future filled with hope". 

Friends, I never said this journey would be easy, and I won't promise that now. 
Yes, as meditators now our path is harder- but it leads to a better place. Yes 
our road is longer- but as a group we travel it together. We won't turn back. 
We leave no one behind. We pull each other up. We draw strength from our 
victories, and we learn from our mistakes, but we keep our eyes fixed on that 
distant horizon, knowing that providence is with us, and that we are surely 
blessed to be citizens of a global country of peace on earth.  Come join with 
us in this community work. 

Thank you, may the Unified Field grace you, and may the Unified Field bless all 
your meditations. 

Jai Guru Dev and the Holy Tradition,
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> In The Unified Field
> 
> There generous fruits that never fail, On trees immortal grow;
> There rocks and hills and brooks and vales,
> With milk and honey flow.
> Om the transporting rapt'rous scene 
> That rises to my sight!
> Sweet Field arrayed in living green, and rivers of delight.
> 
> In the Dome,
> -Buck
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has 
been completed, and the next phase is well underway.

>
> 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> applications.
> 
> 
> >
> > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold our 
> > spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts and 
> > such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine 
> > and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour 
> > strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally
> > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > > numbers
> > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > > initiated
> > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > >
> > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > accomplishment.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Wonder if Share- eternal-Long  ever tried Maharaja Adhiraj Raja raam's
> Vedic Physiology Program : Discover the Fabrics of Immortality
> Individual is Cosmic' course ?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0
> 
> 
>   Vedic Physiology in the Human Physiology, designed by Maharishi

MeruD, Om, Ved and Physiology as a technique; it's a very effective guided 
chakra meditation. Essentially a mindful transcendental meditation.  From that 
standpoint it is different from the overt 'tapping'of the other systems. Ved 
and Phy is probably more transcendental in its work with the subtle system.

 with
> merudanda's Austrian pal Dr Rainer Picha, Minister of Health of the
> Global Country  long long ago
> The Americans Dr Arenander and his wife, Dr Cynthia Arenander, who
> co-created the course Vedic model in such a way that practicing
> Transcendental Meditation is not a prerequisite.
> 
> The six-part course, with each lesson lasting two hours. lessons are as
> follows:
> 
> Lesson 1: Aligning with Nature's Intelligence: The Flow of Attention
> 
> Lesson 2: The Individual is Cosmic: Veda and Human Physiology
> 
> Lesson 3: Total Brain Functioning: Unification of Vedic and
> Physiological Sequence
> 
> Lesson 4: The Changing Brain: Brain Plasticity to Develop Full Human
> Potential
> 
> Lesson 5: Visualizing Brahm: Live Brainwave Demonstration of Vedic
> Recitation
> 
> Lesson 6: Living in Fulfillment: Practical Use of the Constitution of
> the Universe
> just curious [:D]
> as you wrote
> may I quote
> "Apologies if request invitation not communicated clearly and thus
> appeared as demand. "
> just passing by= by night
>   [http://bestanimations.com/Fantasy/Dragons/Dragon-17-june.gif]
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> >
> > Endo tapping very interesting probably based on same principles as EFT
> tapping which uses meridian points which meruD probably already knows. 
> Anyway, since meruD probably not a horse, she assumes EFT tapping or
> qigong can be done in self sufficient way by him.  (Can even be
> successfully done mentally if can't be done physically such as in a
> public place.)  It seems to her that when another is more relaxed in
> this healthy way, they are more likely to be centered in Self rather
> than being dependent on another.  Apologies if request invitation not
> communicated clearly and thus appeared as demand.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 5:49 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Share Long:Wish could help in more direct way
> > How about :The Endo-Tapping Method, by Dr. Cindy Reynolds PhD and JP
> Giacomini
> >
> http://www.dressagetrainingonline.com/the-endo-tapping-method-by-dr-cind\
> y-reynolds-phd-and-jp-giacomini.html
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8fcpveg
> >
> > Through a physical stimulation technique known as endo-tapping
> endorphins are released in the brains of humans and animals that reduce
> the feelings of pain and activate our opiate receptors, filling us with
> a sense of euphoria and relaxation.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyNJXJntGrQ
> > Procedure
> > Gently tap the area on my flank and back . Continue this motion in a
> rhythmic pattern until merudanda lowers his head to you. Tap the area
> around the base of merudanda's neck after he has lowered his head
> further in submission.
> > Look into his eyes. If he is looking away from you, he is going into a
> mild counter-flex-ion. This mental state will override the relaxation
> reflexes in his mind and prevent his body from releasing the endorphins.
> > Continue tapping the two areas until he has completely relaxed and
> lowered his head in total submission. When you can you move merudanda's
> head around like it is attached by a string, you know that the
> endorphins are surging through his body. Merudanda should be completely
> relaxed now.
> > Placing merudanda in this state of mind before he is posting at FFL
> will make him much more susceptible to your demands, dear Share Long-
> indefinitely.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Have noticed that explaining bad joke mine does not make it good
> joke
> > > Anyway, hope sleep was good with no sleep walking or even sleep
> ROFLing
> > > (In spite of TurqB pandits 911 scenario)
> > >
> > > Except maybe back soothing dreams complete with witness, etc.
> > > Now serious:  don't need pills or potions or lotions or even
> notions.  How about a little EFT tapping for back?  Or a little Spring
> Forest Qigong?  Both energy work systems that have worked for this
> sharelong bodymind
> > > which must

[FairfieldLife] Public Health warning: Indian Ayurvedic and Chinese herbal potents.

[Buck]

Lead poisoning in Indian and Chinese preparations.
Neuro-toxins:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6133a1.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Oh Buck  OH Buck
> O YOU
> whom I often and silently come where you are, that I may be
> with you;..
> What do you know?
> ..
> As I walk by your side, or sit near, or remain in the same room with
> you,
> Little you know the subtle electric fire ..
> calling it a guided chakra meditation?
> whom do you tell? dude -you [:x]
> For I am involved in mankind.
> Therefore, send not to know
> For whom the bell tolls,
> It tolls for thee. [:-$]

Well MeruD,, it was the last technique that Maharishi was working on before his 
death. Ved and Physiology as a technique was quite a large project of his and 
quite developed.  It is not actually taught through the TM movement part of the 
Maharishi Foundation but as a continuing education class over under MUM.  But 
honestly it ought to be Maharishi's 'Mindful Transcendental Meditation' (M.MTM) 
to honor Maharishi as its guru and appropriately trademark (TM) it.
-Buck


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonder if Share- eternal-Long  ever tried Maharaja Adhiraj Raja
> raam's
> > > Vedic Physiology Program : Discover the Fabrics of Immortality
> > > Individual is Cosmic' course ?
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c>
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0>
> > >
> > >   Vedic Physiology in the Human Physiology, designed by Maharishi
> >
> > MeruD, Om, Ved and Physiology as a technique; it's a very effective
> guided chakra meditation. Essentially a mindful transcendental
> meditation.  From that standpoint it is different from the overt
> 'tapping'of the other systems. Ved and Phy is probably more
> transcendental in its work with the subtle system.
> >
> >  with
> > > merudanda's Austrian pal Dr Rainer Picha, Minister of Health of the
> > > Global Country  long long ago
> > > The Americans Dr Arenander and his wife, Dr Cynthia Arenander, who
> > > co-created the course Vedic model in such a way that practicing
> > > Transcendental Meditation is not a prerequisite.
> > >
> > > The six-part course, with each lesson lasting two hours. lessons are
> as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > Lesson 1: Aligning with Nature's Intelligence: The Flow of Attention
> > >
> > > Lesson 2: The Individual is Cosmic: Veda and Human Physiology
> > >
> > > Lesson 3: Total Brain Functioning: Unification of Vedic and
> > > Physiological Sequence
> > >
> > > Lesson 4: The Changing Brain: Brain Plasticity to Develop Full Human
> > > Potential
> > >
> > > Lesson 5: Visualizing Brahm: Live Brainwave Demonstration of Vedic
> > > Recitation
> > >
> > > Lesson 6: Living in Fulfillment: Practical Use of the Constitution
> of
> > > the Universe
> > > just curious [:D]
> > > as you wrote
> > > may I quote
> > > "Apologies if request invitation not communicated clearly and thus
> > > appeared as demand. "
> > > just passing by= by night
> > >   [http://bestanimations.com/Fantasy/Dragons/Dragon-17-june.gif]
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Endo tapping very interesting probably based on same principles as
> EFT
> > > tapping which uses meridian points which meruD probably already
> knows.
> > > Anyway, since meruD probably not a horse, she assumes EFT tapping or
> > > qigong can be done in self sufficient way by him.  (Can even be
> > > successfully done mentally if can't be done physically such as in a
> > > public place.)  It seems to her that when another is more relaxed in
> > > this healthy way, they are more likely to be centered in Self rather
> > > than being dependent on another.  Apologies if request invitation
> not
> > > communicated clearly and thus appeared as demand.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 5:49 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!

[Buck]

>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
> >
> > Oh Buck  OH Buck
> > O YOU
> > whom I often and silently come where you are, that I may be
> > with you;..
> > What do you know?
> > ..
> > As I walk by your side, or sit near, or remain in the same room with
> > you,
> > Little you know the subtle electric fire ..
> > calling it a guided chakra meditation?
> > whom do you tell? dude -you [:x]
> > For I am involved in mankind.
> > Therefore, send not to know
> > For whom the bell tolls,
> > It tolls for thee. [:-$]
> 
> Well MeruD,, it was the last technique that Maharishi was working on before 
> his death. Ved and Physiology as a technique was quite a large project of his 
> and quite developed.  It is not actually taught through the TM movement part 
> of the Maharishi Foundation but as a continuing education class over under 
> MUM.  But honestly it ought to be Maharishi's 'Mindful Transcendental 
> Meditation' (M.MTM) to honor Maharishi as its guru and appropriately 
> trademark (TM) it.
> -Buck
> 
>

MeruD, The several lecture meetings of Ved and Phys, It probably takes that 
many lessons and passes through the practice particularly for old virginal 
TM'er meditators who may not be familiar with effortless mindfulness subtle 
practices to get the hang of where this technique goes with the mindful part of 
it.  Once you get the hang of the effortless mindful part of the technique it 
is quite subtle and spiritually embodying in a way that possibly TM alone may 
not be for some folks.  It's an excellent adjunct to TM and the siddhis 
practice.
Jai Guru Dev and Maharishi,
-Buck
 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wonder if Share- eternal-Long  ever tried Maharaja Adhiraj Raja
> > raam's
> > > > Vedic Physiology Program : Discover the Fabrics of Immortality
> > > > Individual is Cosmic' course ?
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c>
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0
> > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0>
> > > >
> > > >   Vedic Physiology in the Human Physiology, designed by Maharishi
> > >
> > > MeruD, Om, Ved and Physiology as a technique; it's a very effective
> > guided chakra meditation. Essentially a mindful transcendental
> > meditation.  From that standpoint it is different from the overt
> > 'tapping'of the other systems. Ved and Phy is probably more
> > transcendental in its work with the subtle system.
> > >
> > >  with
> > > > merudanda's Austrian pal Dr Rainer Picha, Minister of Health of the
> > > > Global Country  long long ago
> > > > The Americans Dr Arenander and his wife, Dr Cynthia Arenander, who
> > > > co-created the course Vedic model in such a way that practicing
> > > > Transcendental Meditation is not a prerequisite.
> > > >
> > > > The six-part course, with each lesson lasting two hours. lessons are
> > as
> > > > follows:
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 1: Aligning with Nature's Intelligence: The Flow of Attention
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 2: The Individual is Cosmic: Veda and Human Physiology
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 3: Total Brain Functioning: Unification of Vedic and
> > > > Physiological Sequence
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 4: The Changing Brain: Brain Plasticity to Develop Full Human
> > > > Potential
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 5: Visualizing Brahm: Live Brainwave Demonstration of Vedic
> > > > Recitation
> > > >
> > > > Lesson 6: Living in Fulfillment: Practical Use of the Constitution
> > of
> > > > the Universe
> > > > just curious [:D]
> > > > as you wrote
> > > > may I quote
> > > > "Apologies if request invitation not communicated clearly and thus
> > > > appeared as demand. "
> > > > just passing by= by night
> > > >   [http://bestanimations.com/Fantasy/Dragons/Dragon-17-june.gif]
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Endo tapping very interesting probably based on same principles as
> > E

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic pundits keep dialing 911!!

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> I hope you don't mind, I hope you don't mind that I put down in words
> That your answer [:">]
> Is a little bit funny [:D]
> So excuse me forgetting, but these things I do
> See I've forgotten if they're green or they're blue
> And you can tell everybody this is your song
> It may be quite simple, but now that it's done
> I know it's not much, but it's the best I can do
> My gift is my kowtow*, and its only for you
> ..
> How wonderful life is now you're in the world
> 
> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowtow
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowtow>

MeruD, 

Though He ran so short of time in the end and He did not get around to it but 
whoever keeps the program now would do well by Maharishi to include this Ved 
and Phys practice, the MTM, in the pantheon even of the Golden Dome practice.  
It's likely the most important part of what he left us.  In experience I would 
bet the science in time will show this aspect of Mindful TM to be even more 
important than yogic-flying itself.  Should be it would probably be a better 
use of time to sub in some Ved and Phys practice for YF as it is done now.  
And, Proly more people would be more inclined to come to the domes and meditate 
too.  

Three kneelings and nine knockings of the head on the ground to thee,
-Buck  


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh Buck  OH Buck
> > > O YOU
> > > whom I often and silently come where you are, that I may be
> > > with you;..
> > > What do you know?
> > > ..
> > > As I walk by your side, or sit near, or remain in the same room with
> > > you,
> > > Little you know the subtle electric fire ..
> > > calling it a guided chakra meditation?
> > > whom do you tell? dude -you [:x]
> > > For I am involved in mankind.
> > > Therefore, send not to know
> > > For whom the bell tolls,
> > > It tolls for thee. [:-$]
> >
> > Well MeruD,, it was the last technique that Maharishi was working on
> before his death. Ved and Physiology as a technique was quite a large
> project of his and quite developed.  It is not actually taught through
> the TM movement part of the Maharishi Foundation but as a continuing
> education class over under MUM.  But honestly it ought to be Maharishi's
> 'Mindful Transcendental Meditation' (M.MTM) to honor Maharishi as its
> guru and appropriately trademark (TM) it.
> > -Buck
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wonder if Share- eternal-Long  ever tried Maharaja Adhiraj Raja
> > > raam's
> > > > > Vedic Physiology Program : Discover the Fabrics of Immortality
> > > > > Individual is Cosmic' course ?
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c
> > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMrAB4vV_c>
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0
> > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgSqen_SaS0>
> > > > >
> > > > >   Vedic Physiology in the Human Physiology, designed by
> Maharishi
> > > >
> > > > MeruD, Om, Ved and Physiology as a technique; it's a very
> effective
> > > guided chakra meditation. Essentially a mindful transcendental
> > > meditation.  From that standpoint it is different from the overt
> > > 'tapping'of the other systems. Ved and Phy is probably more
> > > transcendental in its work with the subtle system.
> > > >
> > > >  with
> > > > > merudanda's Austrian pal Dr Rainer Picha, Minister of Health of
> the
> > > > > Global Country  long long ago
> > > > > The Americans Dr Arenander and his wife, Dr Cynthia Arenander,
> who
> > > > > co-created the course Vedic model in such a way that practicing
> > > > > Transcendental Meditation is not a prerequisite.
> > > > >
> > > > > The six-part course, with each lesson lasting two hours. lessons
> are
> > > as
> > > > > follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > Lesson 1: Aligning with Nature's Intelligence: The Flow of
> Attention
> > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 13,000 tragic ends

[Buck]

Buck, yep he's the authentic.

https://sites.google.com/site/buckbrannamanhorseridingnotes/



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> 
> Seabiscuit  with  Buck Brannaman
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOiL4JRqh7c
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOiL4JRqh7c>
> Buck Brannaman on BBC Breakfast
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neAG5A9vOBs
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neAG5A9vOBs>
> http://www.buckthefilm.com/content.htm
> <http://www.buckthefilm.com/content.htm>
> Buck (2011) 88 min  -  Documentary released in  early 2012 available on
> DVD at  awoelflebater 's horse shop I am sure, too  [:D]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixzqy2Ja8og
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixzqy2Ja8og>
> "Your horse is a mirror to your soul, and sometimes you may not like
> what you see. Sometimes, you will."
>   Zenlike the animal-human relationship becomes a perfect metaphor for
> meeting the challenges of daily life, whether they consist of raising
> kids, running a business, or finding your flow with a dance partner.
> 
> 
> Fantastic pictures from a play-dance-working-session with Klaus
> Ferdinand Hempfling in the wild nature at liberty.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq06bmJLt-U&feature=pyv&ad=10609930901&kw\
> =horse%20whisperer
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq06bmJLt-U&feature=pyv&ad=10609930901&k\
> w=horse%20whisperer>
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/94d6sr2 <http://tinyurl.com/94d6sr2>
>   [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VmYRXoi99rc/0.jpg]
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> >
> > dear Ann, not knowing what else to do, offering this kind of as a
> prayer about the situation:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9zEsSFyJ8
> Dear Share Long -enough-to-understand. [:D]
> Not sure about the kind of Phoenix Ash metaphoric is intended
> Your scene in context of the whole
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9y4Ejd9fVCE#t=8\
> 015s
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9y4Ejd9fVCE#t=\
> 8015s>
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/9vsggh4 <http://tinyurl.com/9vsggh4>
> from the THE HORSE WHISPERER (1998) - Full Movie You tube free
> version.Enjoy the whole movie again...
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:06 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 13,000 tragic ends
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> http://www.thestar.com/sports/horseracing/article/1250221--13-000-horses\
> -could-be-destroyed-in-2013-if-ontario-horse-racing-industry-collapses
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knock, knock, knocking on heathens' doors

[Buck]

Good parody of the state of Transcendental Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of 
meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys 
have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating 
spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions 
discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody 
but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that 
while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual things 
as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 

Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so creatively 
bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface
> to this short one-act play:
> 
> 
> Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit
> and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> 
> A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> 
> 
> That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> 
> 
> Knock knock.
> 
> UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> 
> TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure
> you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM.
> 
> UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> 
> TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice
> some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> 
> UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> 
> TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out
> of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or
> practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling
> behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies]
> 
> UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is "better" than whatever I
> believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling.
> 
> TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now?
> Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes
> one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the
> papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll
> prove it.
> 
> UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no
> interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you
> continuing to try to get me to do so?
> 
> TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and
> as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is
> the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it
> yourself.
> 
> UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff?
> 
> TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty
> years now.
> 
> UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty
> creative. What have you got in your little red wagon that you yourself
> created that you can show me?
> 
> TMer: Uh...uh...wait just a minute. I've got a paper here that reports
> on research done at the University of Whatever that proves conclu...
> 
> UCer: Hold on...I asked for an example of YOUR creativity. Haven't you
> got anything to show me.
> 
> TMer: Uh...not with me.
> 
> UCer: OK, let's talk success, since you claim that TM makes one more
> successful. You must be pretty successful yourself, to be knocking on my
> door in the middle of a workday. Tell me a little about how TM has made
> YOU so successful.
> 
> TMer: Uh...well...I'm between jobs right now.
> 
> UCer: And the happiness thing? Someone who goes around trying to get
> other people to argue with him doesn't exactly strike me as personifying
> happiness.
> 
> TMer: Uh...but...but...I'm doing it for YOUR OWN GOOD. That makes me
> happy.
> 
> UCer: Yeah, right. Just as a suggestion, don't you think your time might
> be better spend being more of a personification of what you claim the
> benefits of are, rather than trying to get people to argue with you
> about it? Listen, I feel for you...not h

[FairfieldLife] Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies 
paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding of 
mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. 
Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Good parody of the state of Transcendental Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of 
> meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys 
> have to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating 
> spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions 
> discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody 
> but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
> Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show that 
> while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other spiritual 
> things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> 
> Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so 
> creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> -Buck
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface
> > to this short one-act play:
> > 
> > 
> > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit
> > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > 
> > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > 
> > 
> > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > 
> > 
> > Knock knock.
> > 
> > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > 
> > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure
> > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM.
> > 
> > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> > 
> > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice
> > some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> > 
> > UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> > yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> > 
> > TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out
> > of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or
> > practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling
> > behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies]
> > 
> > UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is "better" than whatever I
> > believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling.
> > 
> > TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now?
> > Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes
> > one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the
> > papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll
> > prove it.
> > 
> > UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no
> > interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you
> > continuing to try to get me to do so?
> > 
> > TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and
> > as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is
> > the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it
> > yourself.
> > 
> > UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff?
> > 
> > TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirty
> > years now.
> > 
> > UCer: So by now, if what you're saying is true, you must be pretty
> > creative. What have you got in your little red wagon that you yourself
> > created that you can show me?
> > 
> > TMer: Uh...uh...wait just a minute. I've got a paper here that reports
> > on research done at the University of Whatever that proves conclu...
> > 
> > UCer: Hold on...I asked for an example of YOUR creativity. Haven't you
> > got anything to show me.
> > 
> > TMer: Uh...not with me.
> > 
> > UCer: OK, let's talk success, since you claim that TM makes o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Brain and Consciousness.
 
Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the body a 
machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the 
result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning?

>
> This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies 
> paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding 
> of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic 
> Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail.
>



 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >Turqb,
> > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be interested 
> > to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation 
> > research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have to 
> > say about their own research on meditation and cultivating spirituality.  
> > Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing 
> > meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but 
> > themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
> > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show 
> > that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other 
> > spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > 
> > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so 
> > creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > -Buck
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface
> > > to this short one-act play:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit
> > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > 
> > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Knock knock.
> > > 
> > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > > 
> > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> > > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure
> > > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM.
> > > 
> > > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> > > 
> > > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice
> > > some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> > > 
> > > UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> > > yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> > > 
> > > TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out
> > > of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or
> > > practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling
> > > behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies]
> > > 
> > > UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is "better" than whatever I
> > > believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling.
> > > 
> > > TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now?
> > > Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes
> > > one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the
> > > papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll
> > > prove it.
> > > 
> > > UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no
> > > interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you
> > > continuing to try to get me to do so?
> > > 
> > > TMer: For your own good, dummy. You simply won't ever be as creative and
> > > as successful and as happy as you could be unless you admit that TM is
> > > the best possible way to achieve these things, and start practicing it
> > > yourself.
> > > 
> > > UCer: So you're saying that you practice this TM stuff?
> > > 
> > > TMer: [proudly] I sure do. I haven't missed a meditation in over thirt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has been 
raised.

> 
> The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has 
> been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> 
> >
> > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > applications.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold 
> > > our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such thoughts 
> > > and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that we can 
> > > determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever 
> > > the hour strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally
> > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > > > numbers
> > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > > > initiated
> > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > accomplishment.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?


>
> Brain and Consciousness.
>  
> Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the body a 
> machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the 
> result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain functioning?
> 
> >
> > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies 
> > paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the understanding 
> > of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic 
> > Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed in detail.
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >Turqb,
> > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be interested 
> > > to know how the science guys of the two different camps of meditation 
> > > research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the other guys have 
> > > to say about their own research on meditation and cultivating 
> > > spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel 
> > > discussions discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue 
> > > aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
> > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to show 
> > > that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other 
> > > spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > > 
> > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so 
> > > creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > > -Buck
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a preface
> > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit
> > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > 
> > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Knock knock.
> > > > 
> > > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > > > 
> > > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> > > > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure
> > > > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM.
> > > > 
> > > > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> > > > 
> > > > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice
> > > > some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> > > > 
> > > > UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> > > > yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> > > > 
> > > > TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen out
> > > > of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or
> > > > practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling
> > > > behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies]
> > > > 
> > > > UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is "better" than whatever I
> > > > believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're selling.
> > > > 
> > > > TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now?
> > > > Here, I'll prove it to you that TM promotes creativity better, and makes
> > > > one more successful, and more happy. [starts rummaging through the
> > > > papers in the little red wagon] I've got a study right here that'll
> > > > prove it.
> > > > 
> > > > UCer: You really won't give up, will you? I've told you that I have no
> > > > interest in TM, and even less in arguing with you. WHY are you
> > > > continuing to try to get me to do so?
> > > > 
> > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain.
>
> Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> 
> 
> >
> > Brain and Consciousness.
> >  
> > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the body a 
> > machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience the 
> > result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain 
> > functioning?
> > 
> > >
> > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies 
> > > paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the 
> > > understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and 
> > > Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed 
> > > in detail.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >Turqb,
> > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> > > > interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of 
> > > > meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the 
> > > > other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and 
> > > > cultivating spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same 
> > > > panel discussions discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue 
> > > > aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
> > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to 
> > > > show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of other 
> > > > spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > 
> > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so 
> > > > creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > > > -Buck
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a 
> > > > > preface
> > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls Reddit
> > > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > > 
> > > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Knock knock.
> > > > > 
> > > > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > > > > 
> > > > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> > > > > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to lure
> > > > > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of TM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> > > > > 
> > > > > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you practice
> > > > > some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> > > > > 
> > > > > UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> > > > > yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> > > > > 
> > > > > TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen 
> > > > > out
> > > > > of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe or
> > > > > practice, TM is better. [gestures to little red wagon he's pulling
> > > > > behind him full of what appear to be research papers and studies]
> > > > > 
> > > > > UCer: I don't CARE whether you think TM is "better" than whatever I
> > > > > believe in or practice. I'm just not interested in what you're 
> > > > > selling.
> > > > > 
> > > > > TMer: Aha! So you *deny* that TM is better than what you practice now?
> > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent 
group of at least 2000 Yogic Flyers in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As 
you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show 
that when a large group of people practice Yogic Flying together it has a 
powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire 
nation.


>
> 
> More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has 
> been raised.
> 
> > 
> > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits has 
> > been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > 
> > >
> > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > applications.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can hold 
> > > > our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such 
> > > > thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, that 
> > > > we can determine and know what manner of human we will be whenever and 
> > > > wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to 
> > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of 
harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure you 
agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent times.
>
> The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent 
> group of at least 2000 Yogic Flyers in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As 
> you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show 
> that when a large group of people practice Yogic Flying together it has a 
> powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire 
> nation.
> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. has 
> > been raised.
> > 
> > > 
> > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits 
> > > has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > > applications.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can 
> > > > > hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish such 
> > > > > thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty purpose, 
> > > > > that we can determine and know what manner of human we will be 
> > > > > whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to 
> > > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the 
> > > > > > > > Pandit
> > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming:  Why we spend 8 hours in bed.
> 
> Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain.
> >
> > Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Brain and Consciousness.
> > >  
> > > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the body 
> > > a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious experience 
> > > the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness with brain 
> > > functioning?
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; identifies 
> > > > paradigms governing research into this area; and compares the 
> > > > understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern science and 
> > > > Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM practice is reviewed 
> > > > in detail.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >Turqb,
> > > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> > > > > interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps of 
> > > > > meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what the 
> > > > > other guys have to say about their own research on meditation and 
> > > > > cultivating spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same 
> > > > > panel discussions discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to 
> > > > > argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and 
> > > > > only'.
> > > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to 
> > > > > show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of 
> > > > > other spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for so 
> > > > > creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > > > > -Buck
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a 
> > > > > > preface
> > > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls 
> > > > > > Reddit
> > > > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > > > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Knock knock.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come to
> > > > > > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to 
> > > > > > lure
> > > > > > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits of 
> > > > > > TM.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close door]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you 
> > > > > > practice
> > > > > > some  lesser form of meditation or spiritual practice?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > UCer: What I practice or don't practice is my business, and none of
> > > > > > yours. Goodbye. [continues closing door]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > TMer: [sticking his foot in the door like a vaccum cleaner salesmen 
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > of 1950s TV sitcoms] But WAIT! *Whatever* it is that you believe o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice:  What are the markers of the 4th state 
of consciousness?
> 
> Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming:  Why we spend 8 hours in bed.
> > 
> > Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain.
> > >
> > > Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Brain and Consciousness.
> > > >  
> > > > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the 
> > > > body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious 
> > > > experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness 
> > > > with brain functioning?
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; 
> > > > > identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and compares 
> > > > > the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in modern 
> > > > > science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during TM 
> > > > > practice is reviewed in detail.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >Turqb,
> > > > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> > > > > > interested to know how the science guys of the two different camps 
> > > > > > of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would describe what 
> > > > > > the other guys have to say about their own research on meditation 
> > > > > > and cultivating spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on 
> > > > > > the same panel discussions discussing meditation research?  TM'ers 
> > > > > > seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 
> > > > > > 'best and only'.
> > > > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems to 
> > > > > > show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot of 
> > > > > > other spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for 
> > > > > > so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as a 
> > > > > > > preface
> > > > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls 
> > > > > > > Reddit
> > > > > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > > > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to continue
> > > > > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Knock knock.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help you?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've come 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > stand here at your front door and make provocative statements to 
> > > > > > > lure
> > > > > > > you into an argument so that I can convince you of the benefits 
> > > > > > > of TM.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > UCer: Thanks anyway, but I'm not interested. [starts to close 
> > > > > > > door]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > TMer: WAIT! Are you slamming the door in my face because you 
> > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Oct. 2nd, Science, Pseudoscience, and Protoscience:  How science evolves.
> 
> Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice:  What are the markers of the 4th state 
> of consciousness?
> > 
> > Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming:  Why we spend 8 hours in bed.
> > > 
> > > Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain.
> > > >
> > > > Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Brain and Consciousness.
> > > > >  
> > > > > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the 
> > > > > body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious 
> > > > > experience the result of the interaction of a field of consciousness 
> > > > > with brain functioning?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; 
> > > > > > identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and 
> > > > > > compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in 
> > > > > > modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research during 
> > > > > > TM practice is reviewed in detail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >Turqb,
> > > > > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> > > > > > > interested to know how the science guys of the two different 
> > > > > > > camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would 
> > > > > > > describe what the other guys have to say about their own research 
> > > > > > > on meditation and cultivating spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' 
> > > > > > > ever end up on the same panel discussions discussing meditation 
> > > > > > > research?  TM'ers seem to argue aggressively to nobody but 
> > > > > > > themselves that TM is the 'best and only'.
> > > > > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people seems 
> > > > > > > to show that while a few people did start TM they are doing a lot 
> > > > > > > of other spiritual things as they enlighten.  http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, for 
> > > > > > > so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to view,
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along as 
> > > > > > > > a preface
> > > > > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who trolls 
> > > > > > > > Reddit
> > > > > > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the general
> > > > > > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to 
> > > > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himself.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Knock knock.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > UNSUSPECTING CITIZEN (UCer): [opening door] Hello. Can I help 
> > > > > > > > you?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > TRESPASSING MEAN-WELL-ER (TMer): I'm here to help YOU. I've 
> > > > > > > > come to
> > > > > > > > stand here at your front doo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound 
effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and Maharishi 
Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of higher states of 
consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment.
> 
> When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of 
> harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure you 
> agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent times.
> >


> > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a permanent 
> > group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. As 
> > you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published scientific studies show 
> > that when a large group of people practice meditation together it has a 
> > powerful effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire 
> > nation.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. 
> > > has been raised.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new Pandits 
> > > > has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > > > applications.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we can 
> > > > > > hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may cherish 
> > > > > > such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of lofty 
> > > > > > purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of human we 
> > > > > > will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that calls to noble 
> > > > > > action.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 
> > > > > > > > > Pandits
> > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to 
> > > > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the 
> > > > > > > > > Pandit
> > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

Please come and enjoy participating in this historic and blissful endeavour for 
a few weeks. There is nothing even remotely as effective that we can do for our 
world and our families.
> 
> Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound 
> effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and 
> Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of 
> higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment.
> > 
> > When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of 
> > harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure 
> > you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent 
> > times.
> > >
> 
> 
> > > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a 
> > > permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi 
> > > Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published 
> > > scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice 
> > > meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in 
> > > the consciousness of the entire nation.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. 
> > > > has been raised.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new 
> > > > > Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > > > > applications.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we 
> > > > > > > can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may 
> > > > > > > cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of 
> > > > > > > lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of 
> > > > > > > human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that 
> > > > > > > calls to noble action.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 
> > > > > > > > > > Pandits
> > > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City 
> > > > > > > > > > to finally
> > > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super 
> > > > > > > > > > Radiance
> > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign 
> > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the 
> > > > > > > > > > Pandit
> > > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > > > > > > inspiring and
> > > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We 
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

Oct. 4th, Other Meditations:  Categories of meditation practices.
> 
> Oct. 2nd, Science, Pseudoscience, and Protoscience:  How science evolves.
> > 
> > Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice:  What are the markers of the 4th 
> > state of consciousness?
> > > 
> > > Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming:  Why we spend 8 hours in bed.
> > > > 
> > > > Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our Brain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brain and Consciousness.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is the 
> > > > > > body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is conscious 
> > > > > > experience the result of the interaction of a field of 
> > > > > > consciousness with brain functioning?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; 
> > > > > > > identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and 
> > > > > > > compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the body in 
> > > > > > > modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent research 
> > > > > > > during TM practice is reviewed in detail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >Turqb,
> > > > > > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd be 
> > > > > > > > interested to know how the science guys of the two different 
> > > > > > > > camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone else) would 
> > > > > > > > describe what the other guys have to say about their own 
> > > > > > > > research on meditation and cultivating spirituality.  Do the 
> > > > > > > > two 'camps' ever end up on the same panel discussions 
> > > > > > > > discussing meditation research?  TM'ers seem to argue 
> > > > > > > > aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM is the 'best and 
> > > > > > > > only'.
> > > > > > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people 
> > > > > > > > seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are 
> > > > > > > > doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten.  
> > > > > > > > http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the floor, 
> > > > > > > > for so creatively bringing this moment of popular culture in to 
> > > > > > > > view,
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it along 
> > > > > > > > > as a preface
> > > > > > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Q: What's the difference between a religious fanatic who 
> > > > > > > > > trolls Reddit
> > > > > > > > > and a Seventh Day Adventist?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > A: You can't unsubscribe from your front door.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > That said, the following is a gentle satire aimed in the 
> > > > > > > > > general
> > > > > > > > > direction of someone here who I like and would prefer to 
> > > > > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > > > liking, but is in danger of becoming a parody of himse

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain, Consciousness, and Meditation

[Buck]

> 
> 7-Session course begins
> September 11, 2012!
>  
> In Dalby Hall
> on MUM Campus
>

Course Instructors
 
Fred Travis, Ph.D.
Robert Keith Wallace, Ph.D.
 
> http://elearning.mum.edu/brain-and-consciousness-course.php
> 
> > 
> > Oct. 4th, Other Meditations:  Categories of meditation practices.
> > > 
> > > Oct. 2nd, Science, Pseudoscience, and Protoscience:  How science evolves.
> > > > 
> > > > Sept. 27th, The brain and TM practice:  What are the markers of the 4th 
> > > > state of consciousness?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sept. 25th, Sleeping and Dreaming:  Why we spend 8 hours in bed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sept. 13th, Brain Development: How Nature and Nurture Create our 
> > > > > > Brain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sept. 11th, Paradigms – how do we make meaning of experience?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brain and Consciousness.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Are we primarily matter, or are we primarily consciousness?  Is 
> > > > > > > > the body a machine that creates conscious experience, or is 
> > > > > > > > conscious experience the result of the interaction of a field 
> > > > > > > > of consciousness with brain functioning?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This course explores concepts of mind and brain in science; 
> > > > > > > > > identifies paradigms governing research into this area; and 
> > > > > > > > > compares the understanding of mind, consciousness and the 
> > > > > > > > > body in modern science and Maharishi Vedic Science. Recent 
> > > > > > > > > research during TM practice is reviewed in detail.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >Turqb,
> > > > > > > > > > Good parody of the state of Meditation PR campaigning.  I'd 
> > > > > > > > > > be interested to know how the science guys of the two 
> > > > > > > > > > different camps of meditation research (TM vs. everyone 
> > > > > > > > > > else) would describe what the other guys have to say about 
> > > > > > > > > > their own research on meditation and cultivating 
> > > > > > > > > > spirituality.  Do the two 'camps' ever end up on the same 
> > > > > > > > > > panel discussions discussing meditation research?  TM'ers 
> > > > > > > > > > seem to argue aggressively to nobody but themselves that TM 
> > > > > > > > > > is the 'best and only'.
> > > > > > > > > > Listening to the Batgap.com interviews of spiritual people 
> > > > > > > > > > seems to show that while a few people did start TM they are 
> > > > > > > > > > doing a lot of other spiritual things as they enlighten.  
> > > > > > > > > > http://batgap.com/ 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Turq, a Deep kneel and three knocks of the head on the 
> > > > > > > > > > floor, for so creatively bringing this moment of popular 
> > > > > > > > > > culture in to view,
> > > > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I heard a joke today from a friend, and shall pass it 
> > > > > > > > > > > along as a preface
> > > > > > > > > > > to this short one-act play:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

The immediate and urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible 
America Assembly at MUM. Only 2000 meditators in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City 
will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict 
in the world.
 
> 
> Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound 
> effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and 
> Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of 
> higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment.
> > 
> > When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect of 
> > harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am sure 
> > you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these turbulent 
> > times.
> > >
> 
> 
> > > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a 
> > > permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi 
> > > Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published 
> > > scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice 
> > > meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence in 
> > > the consciousness of the entire nation.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the U.S. 
> > > > has been raised.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new 
> > > > > Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > > > > applications.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we 
> > > > > > > can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may 
> > > > > > > cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of 
> > > > > > > lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of 
> > > > > > > human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that 
> > > > > > > calls to noble action.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 
> > > > > > > > > > Pandits
> > > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City 
> > > > > > > > > > to finally
> > > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super 
> > > > > > > > > > Radiance
> > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign 
> > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the 
> > > > > > > > > > Pandit
> > > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > > > > > > inspiring and
> > > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We 
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

> 
> The immediate and urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible 
> America Assembly at MUM. Only 2000 meditators in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic 
> City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of 
> conflict in the world.
>

The arrival of the Pandits will secure the daily Super Radiance numbers in 
Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City at more than 2,000.  

> > 
> > Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more profound 
> > effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield and 
> > Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences of 
> > higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and fulfilment.
> > > 
> > > When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect 
> > > of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am 
> > > sure you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these 
> > > turbulent times.
> > > >
> > 
> > 
> > > > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a 
> > > > permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and Maharishi 
> > > > Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous published 
> > > > scientific studies show that when a large group of people practice 
> > > > meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and coherence 
> > > > in the consciousness of the entire nation.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the 
> > > > > U.S. has been raised.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new 
> > > > > > Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their visa 
> > > > > > > applications.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But we 
> > > > > > > > can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we may 
> > > > > > > > cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such dreams of 
> > > > > > > > lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what manner of 
> > > > > > > > human we will be whenever and wherever the hour strikes, that 
> > > > > > > > calls to noble action.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 
> > > > > > > > > > > Pandits
> > > > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City 
> > > > > > > > > > > to finally
> > > > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super 
> > > > > > > > > > > Radiance
> > > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A 
> > > > > > > > > > > campaign was
> > > > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand 
> > > > > > > > > > > the Pandit
> > > > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > > > > > > > inspiring and
> > > > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We 
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a huge
> > > > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

We are on the verge of realizing our goal of 30 years. The generosity of our 
community and donors has brought us to this place. With your enhanced support, 
we will soon have the Super Radiance community we have worked so hard to build.
> 
> > 
> > The immediate and urgent priority for world peace is to join the Invincible 
> > America Assembly at MUM. Only 2000 meditators in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic 
> > City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of 
> > conflict in the world.
> >
> 
> The arrival of the Pandits will secure the daily Super Radiance numbers in 
> Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City at more than 2,000.  
> 
> > > 
> > > Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more 
> > > profound effect for the participants themselves. People here in Fairfield 
> > > and Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing experiences 
> > > of higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom and 
> > > fulfilment.
> > > > 
> > > > When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful effect 
> > > > of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire world. I am 
> > > > sure you agree with me that this could not be more necessary in these 
> > > > turbulent times.
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a 
> > > > > permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and 
> > > > > Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous 
> > > > > published scientific studies show that when a large group of people 
> > > > > practice meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony and 
> > > > > coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the 
> > > > > > U.S. has been raised.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new 
> > > > > > > Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their 
> > > > > > > > visa applications.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But 
> > > > > > > > > we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we 
> > > > > > > > > may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such 
> > > > > > > > > dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know what 
> > > > > > > > > manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the hour 
> > > > > > > > > strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 556 Pandits
> > > > > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > City to finally
> > > > > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Radiance
> > > > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A 
> > > > > > > > > > > > campaign was
> > > > > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Pandit
> > > > > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > > > > > > > > inspiring and
> > > > > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. 
> > > > > > > > > > > We have
> > > > > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a 
> > > > > > > > > > > huge
> > > > > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: "I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!"

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :)  It's O.K. Curtis...your 
> reputation is safe.  No worries.  
>

It's true, may be you all could move this thread off-line between yous now.  
Like, what's between you keep between you and spare the neighborhood.
 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: "I'm not going to shut up; it's 
> my turn!"
>  
> 
>   
> Curtis - No, it's your formula that's getting jaded, worn-out and painful to 
> watch, you are humiliating yourself - trying to manipulate, deceive, threaten 
> others to stifle discussion here. You know what? I faced the tough initiation 
> to FFL and not for a moment I indulged in your shameless, whiny, drama 
> queenery. Robin did as well, Bob Price did as well.
> 
> You have cried wolf too many times to be taken seriously. You know why I came 
> after you in January, you started to slander me my trying to twist my 
> innocent tale of that 19 years old trying to cajole me into buying a drink 
> for her on New Year's day. Yet you manipulated everyone into believing I was 
> flooding search engine, I was destroying your online reputation. Your cry 
> wolf strategy of your "online reputation" is getting stale, barn yard 
> stinkish, Curtis, grow some balls or just change your online moniker don't 
> try to shut everyone up here - everyone knows what kind of place FFL is - 
> Robin said it well - don't act like the Moses dare I say Jesus of this list.
> 
> You know why no one other than Robin, Judy stand up to you - because of these 
> very manipulation, deception, coercion you indulge in when someone calls your 
> bullshit. All of you have is the idiot Steve and the King Baby to support you 
> - your old boy, mid-western clique.
> 
> Here's a free clue - John Paul is not working out, time to create some other 
> piece of beautiful writing to con the gullible here - just don't get into a 
> debate because you will start looking like the clueless fool you are. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, curtisdeltablues  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> >  
> >OK so I get the formula.  I say something that isn't what I would say and 
> >you dance around why you said them.  So it is all good for you even though I 
> >would never say your days are numbered or that I was going to humble you and 
> >would never even mean that which is something I know because I am, after 
> >all, myself.
> >
> >You are fucking with me Robin and you got my goat a little and you even got 
> >some troll friends to pile on.  And for them perhaps your post was just 
> >perfect.  Sorry to spoil your little troll party with my actual POV.
> >
> >I read you as a wordy Ravi now Robin.  Same intention.  You are as spiteful 
> >as Judy and you've had your little fun at my expense.  I hope you are 
> >sitting smug in your trollness.  Is smells like a barnyard to me. 
> >
> >If you wanted to "send me up" without being an asshole there were many ways 
> >to do it.  Your choosing this way is most telling.
> >
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Admission: some poetic license on: Your days are numbered. And the humble 
> >> thing, that too was hyperbole. I admit to pushing the envelope a little 
> >> there. But still IN THE MAIN my two posts represent your fundamental 
> >> response to Robin Carlsen--inside the polemic of our relationship, Curtis. 
> >> Find some other ones. This is getting fun. Because if you cite examples 
> >> they must be sufficient in their cumulative effect to vitiate the 
> >> essential truth of the two posts. Else MY IRONY HAS FAILED.
> >> 
> >> Good start. Keep going. Find some other ones. These ones separated out 
> >> from the whole seem to suggest Robin was pressing things a little. But if 
> >> you take the GIST of the posts, Curtis, they are you. I could not ENTIRELY 
> >> be sober there; else people WOULD REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS YOU. So the 
> >> exaggeration WAS TO PROTECT YOU.
> >> 
> >> It all works, Curtis. Robin sending you up, but making sure at the same 
> >> time that in the end it was not you. But yet IT WAS YOU.
> >> 
> >> Let's keep it going, Curtis.
> >> 
> >> Robin
> >> 
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You just don't get it Robin.  No one likes to be mispresented, or
> >> > > > impersonated.  I think it 's pretty simple.
> >> > > 
> >> > > No, YOU don't get it, Steve. That isn't the issue. Curtis is
> >> > > within his rights to ask Robin to stop. Curtis is not within
> >> > > his rights (ethically, at any rate) to claim Robin has
> >> > > misrepresented the kind of thing h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits' Union formed in Fairfield, Iowa

[Buck]

Om Jeez, did you see this trash posted here earlier today as creativity?

Dear FFL Moderators, as an experienced and old conservative meditator here I'm 
concerned for the integrity of our FFL with Yahoo-groups over this kind of 
Obscenity being posted here.

These people.  They are doing it again bringing and posting smut here.
Spiritually I am completely offended by this kind of smut-peddling being posted 
here by these people.  They are using our list's open-ness against us for their 
own prurient interests.   It is needlessly inflammatory, extremely low-brow and 
completely discouraging to any civil discourse of the community.  
Moderators, you simply must be more pro-active in protecting the spiritual 
integrity of our FFL forum.. Do your duty and do something.  Be forthright and 
bold about these nattering nabobs of negativity posting this trash on our list. 
 Their coming to FFL mostly as immigrants with little stake we have now more 
than our share of them.   Nattering nabobs of negativism they have formed their 
own 4-H Club -- the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.  
Un-repentant they have nothing of spiritual worth to offer here.  Not just 
shunned, they should not allowed to post on FFL. 
Kindly,
-Buck 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> [Explicative text Deleted]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Noblest Aspiration I Can Imagine

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Granted that humility was never exactly one of TM-org's 
> strong points nor was MMY's.  
> 
> The main complaint by people like Vaj and few others is that 
> these kind of cults create a huge ego in the sadhaka by 
> telling them that this is the "best path" and they have the 
> "highest" and "most noble" goals.
> 
> They also create a prejudice in the minds of Sadhakas who 
> fail to appreciate other valid alternate paths and ways of 
> life.  Their mind becomes rigid and dogmatic.
>

You guys just don't know, really it's about alpha.  TM'ers have the most alpha 
and alpha coherence between everywhere brain, and therefore are the best-est.  
The others don't even come close.  This is clear in the alpha science.  By the 
science of alpha TM is world class meditation and TM'ers are world-class 
spiritual human-being people.  By definition TM'ers are doing less and also 
accomplishing more in life spiritually.  Everyone else evidently are spiritual 
losers.  You need to go back to school.  
-Buck in the Dome   
 
> However, please note that all organised religions on this 
> planet are also guilty of this.
> 
> If Maharishi had taught a number of different meditations 
> techniques, Judy would be on the forum "defending" all them 
> as the "best" and "highest" and the "truest" path.
> 
> ---  turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Having rapped once this morning about the concept so often pushed out by
> > TM and TMers of it/them being "The Best," I thought I'd balance things
> > somewhat and rap about another concept. As much as I may appreciate
> > people whose aspiration -- like Olympic athletes -- is to become The
> > Best at something, I'm personally just not drawn that way.
> > 
> > In both spiritual pursuits and more mundane ones, I'm more attracted to
> > folks who have learned the quiet joys of being ordinary.
> > 
> > I just did an Amazon "Look inside this book" search of Maharishi's "The
> > Science of Being and Art of Living," looking for instances of a word. I
> > got zero results. None. Nada. Bupkus. This doesn't surprise me, because
> > in the many years I studied with him, I can't recall him having ever
> > used the word in any talk or lecture.
> > 
> > But if you think about it, that *should* be a bit surprising, because
> > this word is the *basis* of many other spiritual teachings and
> > traditions. They give whole talks devoted to this word and concept. They
> > write whole books about it. Much of their daily practice is devoted to
> > achieving it.
> > 
> > The word is "humility."
> > 
> > The dictionary defines humility as "The quality or state of being
> > humble." Looking up humble, it is defined as "Not proud or haughty;
> > reflecting or expressing a spirit of deference." The Dalai Lama, in one
> > of his talks on this subject, has said, "Any sense of conceit or
> > self-importance gets in the way of cultivating the genuine altruistic
> > intention, and the most effective remedy against this is the cultivation
> > of humility."
> > 
> > Isn't it interesting that the quality that Buddhism considers one of the
> > noblest and most altruistic intents one could have, so much so that it's
> > considered a "remedy" for its opposite, self importance, is something
> > that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi didn't even feel was worth mentioning?
> > 
> > Different strokes for different folks, eh?
> > 
> > Anyway, I'm a big fan of humility, in the sense of realizing one's
> > ordinariness and *lack* of self importance. This, to me, is a portal
> > that leads to the ability to better empathize with one's fellow human
> > beings. And that, of course, leads to the ability to be more of service
> > to them.
> > 
> > There are a few folks here on Fairfield Life who I think -- based on the
> > things they write -- "get" humility. You see it in the way they describe
> > the "people on the street" they interact with (think Curtis and Marek)
> > and you see it in the things they aspire to or fail to aspire to (think
> > Xeno and some others, who have given up the one-pointed pursuit of
> > enlightenment in favor of the pursuit of just living a fun or meaningful
> > life).
> > 
> > Then there are others, who *don't* seem content with being ordinary.
> > We've been told here tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

[Buck]

> 
> We are on the verge of realizing our goal of 30 years. The generosity of our 
> community and donors has brought us to this place. With your enhanced 
> support, we will soon have the Super Radiance community we have worked so 
> hard to build.
> >

In this time of great opportunity, I hope that you will be inspired to give 
and—if at all possible—to commit to our IA Assembly of meditators.  

I thank all our donors for their heroic support for the Maharishi Vedic Pandits 
and this historic meditation!
All Blessings of the Unified Field,
-Buck in the Dome

 
> > > 
> > > The immediate and urgent priority for world peace is to join the 
> > > Invincible America Assembly at MUM. Only 2000 meditators in 
> > > Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse 
> > > the precarious escalation of conflict in the world.
> > >
> > 
> > The arrival of the Pandits will secure the daily Super Radiance numbers in 
> > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City at more than 2,000.  
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, practicing meditation in a large group has an even more 
> > > > profound effect for the participants themselves. People here in 
> > > > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City are reporting very beautiful ongoing 
> > > > experiences of higher states of consciousness and growing inner freedom 
> > > > and fulfilment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When a large group of people meditate together it has a powerful 
> > > > > effect of harmony and coherence in the consciousness of the entire 
> > > > > world. I am sure you agree with me that this could not be more 
> > > > > necessary in these turbulent times.
> > > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > The purpose of the Settle Foundation grant is to help maintain a 
> > > > > > permanent group of at least 2000 meditators in Fairfield and 
> > > > > > Maharishi Vedic City. As you may remember, over 50 highly rigorous 
> > > > > > published scientific studies show that when a large group of people 
> > > > > > practice meditation together it has a powerful effect of harmony 
> > > > > > and coherence in the consciousness of the entire nation.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > More than 1/3 of the funds needed to bring all 556 Pandits to the 
> > > > > > > U.S. has been raised.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The first phase of the kitchen expansion to accommodate the new 
> > > > > > > > Pandits has been completed, and the next phase is well underway.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 556 Pandits now have passports, and 541 have completed their 
> > > > > > > > > visa applications.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We know not of the future, and cannot plan for it much. But 
> > > > > > > > > > we can hold our spirits and our bodies so pure and high, we 
> > > > > > > > > > may cherish such thoughts and such ideals, and dream such 
> > > > > > > > > > dreams of lofty purpose, that we can determine and know 
> > > > > > > > > > what manner of human we will be whenever and wherever the 
> > > > > > > > > > hour strikes, that calls to noble action.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 556 Pandits
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > City to finally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Radiance
> > > > > > > > > > > numbers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > campaign was
> > > > > > > > > > > initiated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > expand the Pandit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > inspiring and
> > > > > > > > > > > > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > We have
> > > > > > > > > > > > received $350,000 since the campaign began last month—a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > huge
> > > > > > > > > > > > accomplishment.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.

In a dark place he was one of us.
An Arjuna,
A Statesman,
A Mediator,
A Meditator.
Om
Shanti.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

>
> Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> 
> In a dark place he was one of us.
> An Arjuna,
> A Statesman,
> A Mediator,
> A Meditator.
> Om
> Shanti.
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
>

Buried in sorrow and in sin
At hell's dark door he lay;
But we arise by grace divine
To see a heav'nly day.

[FairfieldLife] Founder's Day

[Buck]

TONIGHT!

Founder's Day Celebration

Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
Patanjali Golden Dome

Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's knowledge in 
the United States and around the world. — 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founder's Day

[Buck]

>
> TONIGHT!
> 
> Founder's Day Celebration
> 
> Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
> Patanjali Golden Dome
> 
> Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's knowledge 
> in the United States and around the world: 
>


• Dr. Keith Wallace – 
How Maharishi influenced him in undertaking the first research on the 
Transcendental Meditation program as a PhD student at UCLA.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founder's Day

[Buck]

> 
> 
> >
> > TONIGHT!
> > 
> > Founder's Day Celebration
> > 
> > Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
> > Patanjali Golden Dome
> > 
> > Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's 
> > knowledge in the United States and around the world: 
> >
> 
> 
> Dr. Keith Wallace  
> How Maharishi influenced him in undertaking the first research on the 
> Transcendental Meditation program as a PhD student at UCLA.
>
Raja John Hagelin – 
Accounts of his first meetings with Maharishi when he was a student at Harvard, 
and their discussions of physics and consciousness.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founder's Day

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > TONIGHT!
> > > 
> > > Founder's Day Celebration
> > > 
> > > Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
> > > Patanjali Golden Dome
> > > 
> > > Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's 
> > > knowledge in the United States and around the world: 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Dr. Keith Wallace  
> > How Maharishi influenced him in undertaking the first research on the 
> > Transcendental Meditation program as a PhD student at UCLA.
> >
> Raja John Hagelin 
> Accounts of his first meetings with Maharishi when he was a student at 
> Harvard, and their discussions of physics and consciousness.
>
Dr. Bevan Morris – 
Will connect from China with Professor Yunxiang Zhu with a report on their 
visit to the Far East, and stories of Maharishi's visit to China in 1982.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founder's Day

[Buck]

> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > TONIGHT!
> > > > 
> > > > Founder's Day Celebration
> > > > 
> > > > Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
> > > > Patanjali Golden Dome
> > > > 
> > > > Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's 
> > > > knowledge in the United States and around the world: 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dr. Keith Wallace  
> > > How Maharishi influenced him in undertaking the first research on the 
> > > Transcendental Meditation program as a PhD student at UCLA.
> > >
> > Raja John Hagelin 
> > Accounts of his first meetings with Maharishi when he was a student at 
> > Harvard, and their discussions of physics and consciousness.
> >
> Dr. Bevan Morris  
> Will connect from China with Professor Yunxiang Zhu with a report on their 
> visit to the Far East, and stories of Maharishi's visit to China in 1982.
>

Maharishi videotape, "Greetings to the First Students at M.I.U."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Founder's Day

[Buck]

>
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TONIGHT!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Founder's Day Celebration
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Wednesday night, September 12, 8:00 p.m.
> > > > > > Patanjali Golden Dome
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Come and enjoy first hand accounts of the unfolding of Maharishi's 
> > > > > > knowledge in the United States and around the world: 
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dr. Keith Wallace  
> > > > > How Maharishi influenced him in undertaking the first research on the 
> > > > > Transcendental Meditation program as a PhD student at UCLA.
> > > > >
> > > > Raja John Hagelin 
> > > > Accounts of his first meetings with Maharishi when he was a student at 
> > > > Harvard, and their discussions of physics and consciousness.
> > > >
> > > Dr. Bevan Morris  
> > > Will connect from China with Professor Yunxiang Zhu with a report on 
> > > their visit to the Far East, and stories of Maharishi's visit to China in 
> > > 1982.
> > >
> > 
> > Maharishi videotape, "Greetings to the First Students at M.I.U."
> 
> That Dome will be hopping tonight!!
> >
>

Yup, fun meeting.  These are important transition times now.  Another ten years 
and a lot of people who were with Maharishi will be gone.  Just look around the 
room!  Yeah, it was real nice reminiscence about heady times by people who were 
there.  We changed the world.  Was recorded on video.
-Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > 
> > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > An Arjuna,
> > A Statesman,
> > A Mediator,
> > A Meditator.
> > Om
> > Shanti.
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> 
> Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> may well have been one, having grown up in California
> and been in the Peace Corps. 
>

A meditator?  Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person.  What 
we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence 
between the various parts of the brain.  It turns out world-class people in 
their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their 
brains.  Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at 
least.  He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a 
darkened place of the world.  I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant 
islamisists murdered him, took him out.  We should collectively pause and mourn 
his passing.According to the science, people without high alpha wave 
coherence are not meditators nor close to enlightenment.  We have a lot more 
work to do in the world.  
-Buck in the Dome 
 
> What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> by an Egyptian Christian.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > 
> > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > An Arjuna,
> > A Statesman,
> > A Mediator,
> > A Meditator.
> > Om
> > Shanti.
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> 
> Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> may well have been one, having grown up in California
> and been in the Peace Corps. 
>


A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we 
know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence 
between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in 
their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their 
brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at 
least. 
He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant 
islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn 
his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence 
are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to 
do in the world.
-Buck in the Dome
  
 
> What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> by an Egyptian Christian.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > 
> > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > An Arjuna,
> > > A Statesman,
> > > A Mediator,
> > > A Meditator.
> > > Om
> > > Shanti.
> > > 
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > 
> > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> >
> 
> 
> A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What 
> we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave 
> coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class 
> people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the 
> parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha 
> wave coherence at least. 
> He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant 
> islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and 
> mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave 
> coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot 
> more work to do in the world.
> -Buck in the Dome
>

Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can 
enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they 
may be simultaneously experi­encing higher states of consciousness. In a study 
published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald 
Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave 
characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also 
found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of 
"higher states of consciousness," which include inner calmness and happiness 
amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of 
functioning; and a sense of perfection. 
   
>  
> > What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> > it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> > presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> > or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> > anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> > by an Egyptian Christian.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > 
> > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > A Statesman,
> > > > A Mediator,
> > > > A Meditator.
> > > > Om
> > > > Shanti.
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > 
> > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. 
> > What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave 
> > coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class 
> > people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the 
> > parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha 
> > wave coherence at least. 
> > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > darkened place of the world.

Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in 
a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded 
awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people 
and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is 
remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are 
connected to high moral standards. 


> > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took 
> > him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to 
> > the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not 
> > transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in 
> > the world.
> > -Buck in the Dome
> >
> 
> Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can 
> enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they 
> may be simultaneously experi­encing higher states of consciousness. In a 
> study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. 
> Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave 
> characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also 
> found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of 
> "higher states of consciousness," which include inner calmness and happiness 
> amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of 
> functioning; and a sense of perfection. 
>
> >  
> > > What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> > > it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> > > presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> > > or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> > > anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> > > by an Egyptian Christian.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > Om
> > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > 
> > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. 
> > > What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave 
> > > coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out 
> > > world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence 
> > > between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM 
> > > meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. 
> > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > darkened place of the world.
> 
> Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups 
> in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded 
> awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other 
> people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added 
> that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of 
> activities are connected to high moral standards. 
> 
> 
> > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took 
> > > him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to 
> > > the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not 
> > > transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do 
> > > in the world.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > >

Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'.  As I have contended 
before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low 
alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice 
non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. 

> > 
> > Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can 
> > enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new research suggests 
> > they may be simultaneously experi­encing higher states of consciousness. In 
> > a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. 
> > Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave 
> > characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also 
> > found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience 
> > of "higher states of consciousness," which include inner calmness and 
> > happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and 
> > ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. 
> >
> > >  
> > > > What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> > > > it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> > > > presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> > > > or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> > > > anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> > > > by an Egyptian Christian.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
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> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
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> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > Om
> > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > 
> > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. 
> > > > What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha 
> > > > wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out 
> > > > world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave 
> > > > coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; 
> > > > a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. 
> > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > > darkened place of the world.
> > 
> > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control 
> > groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an 
> > expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of 
> > other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, 
> > who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide 
> > spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. 
> > 
> > 
> > > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, 
> > > > took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. 
> > > > According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are 
> > > > not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work 
> > > > to do in the world.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > >
> 
> Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'.  As I have 
> contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low 
> alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice 
> non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. 
> 
> > > 
> > > Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives 
> > > can enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new research 
> > > suggests they may be simultaneously experi­encing higher states of 
> > > consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, 
> > > Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers 
> > > displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those 
> > > of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance 
> > > and the subjective experience of "higher states of consciousness," which 
> > > include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum 
> > > wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of 
> > > perfection. 
> > >

Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between 
the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence.  And yes, there's a lot 
of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident 
incoherence producing practice.  Like, what are all those people doing 'five 
times a day' on their knees?  The problem we all have is all that non-alpha 
incoherent 'non-meditation' and an evident drag of non-meditators out there.   
In a modern world we certainly want for a better public health policy for 
everyone having to do with healthy brain physiology that should uplift everyone 
out of the stone age.  That is worth fighting for.
-Buck
> > > >  
> > > > > What strikes me about this whole sad business is that
> > > > > it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed,
> > > > > presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen
> > > > > or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an
> > > > > anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
> > > > > by an Egyptian Christian.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
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> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
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> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > > Om
> > > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of 
> > > > > person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit 
> > > > > high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It 
> > > > > turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha 
> > > > > wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is 
> > > > > like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. 
> > > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > > > darkened place of the world.
> > > 
> > > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control 
> > > groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies 
> > > an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the 
> > > interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to 
> > > Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance 
> > > in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, 
> > > > > took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. 
> > > > > According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence 
> > > > > are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more 
> > > > > work to do in the world.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > >

"The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak 
performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the 
activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind 
experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure 
unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone." 

> > 
> > Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'.  As I have 
> > contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low 
> > alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively 
> > practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or 
> > spirituality. 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives 
> > > > can enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new research 
> > > > suggests they may be simultaneously experi­encing higher states of 
> > > > consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, 
> > > > Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class 
> > > > performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were 
> > > > distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations 
> > > > between high performance and the subjective experience of "

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
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> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > > > Om
> > > > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of 
> > > > > > person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit 
> > > > > > high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. 
> > > > > > It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high 
> > > > > > alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this 
> > > > > > guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. 
> > > > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > > > > darkened place of the world.
> > > > 
> > > > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control 
> > > > groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies 
> > > > an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the 
> > > > interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according 
> > > > to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of 
> > > > performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high 
> > > > moral standards. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered 
> > > > > > him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his 
> > > > > > passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave 
> > > > > > coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We 
> > > > > > have a lot more work to do in the world.
> > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > > >
> 
> "The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak 
> performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the 
> activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind 
> experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure 
> unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone." 
> 
> > > 
> > > Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'.  As I have 
> > > contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is 
> > > low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively 
> > > practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or 
> > > spirituality. 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and 
> > > > > executives can enter "the zone" during optimal performance; now, new 
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
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> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > > > > Om
> > > > > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of 
> > > > > > > person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit 
> > > > > > > high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. 
> > > > > > > It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high 
> > > > > > > alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, 
> > > > > > > this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at 
> > > > > > > least. 
> > > > > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > > > > > darkened place of the world.
> > > > >

A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among 
world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of 
professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously 
experience "higher states of consciousness."
  
> > > > > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control 
> > > > > groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development 
> > > > > implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy 
> > > > > the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, 
> > > > > according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high 
> > > > > levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected 
> > > > > to high moral standards. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered 
> > > > > > > him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his 
> > > > > > > passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave 
> > > > > > > coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We 
> > > > > > > have a lot more work to do in the world.
> > > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > > > >
> > 
> > "The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or 
> > peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when 
> > the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the 
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > > > > > Om
> > > > > > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of 
> > > > > > > > person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators 
> > > > > > > > exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of 
> > > > > > > > the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also 
> > > > > > > > exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their 
> > > > > > > > brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave 
> > > > > > > > coherence at least. 
> > > > > > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a
> > > > > > > > darkened place of the world.
> > > > > >
> 
> A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among 
> world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety 
> of professions, which found that during optimal performance they 
> spontaneously experience "higher states of consciousness."
>   
> > > > > > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the 
> > > > > > control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral 
> > > > > > development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is 
> > > > > > able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or 
> > > > > > her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is 
> > > > > > remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of 
> > > > > > activities are connected to high moral standards. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered 
> > > > > > > > him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his 
> > > > > > > > passing. According to the science, people without high alpha 
> > > > > > > > wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Obituary: J Christopher Stevens.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > In a dark place he was one of us.
> > > > > > > > > > > An Arjuna,
> > > > > > > > > > > A Statesman,
> > > > > > > > > > > A Mediator,
> > > > > > > > > > > A Meditator.
> > > > > > > > > > > Om
> > > > > > > > > > > Shanti.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he
> > > > > > > > > > may well have been one, having grown up in California
> > > > > > > > > > and been in the Peace Corps. 
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind 
> > > > > > > > > of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators 
> > > > > > > > > exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts 
> > > > > > > > > of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields 
> > > > > > > > > also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of 
> > > > > > > > > their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by 
> > > > > > > > > alpha wave coherence at least. 
> > > > > > > > > He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling 
> > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > > darkened place of the world.
> > > > > > >
> > 
> > A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among 
> > world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a 
> > variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they 
> > spontaneously experience "higher states of consciousness."
> >   
> > > > > > > Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the 
> > > > > > > control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral 
> > > > > > > development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is 
> > > > > > > able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or 
> > > > > > > her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is 
> > > > > > > remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of 
> > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Materialism

[Buck]

"May we look upon our treasures, the furniture of our houses, and our garments, 
and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions.  
Holding treasures in the self-pleasing spirit is a strong plant, the fruit 
whereof ripens fast.  A day of outward distress is coming and Divine Love calls 
for us to prepare against it."
-Woolman

http://www.icelandichorse.info/seedsofactivism.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19697344

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not just TMers who get excommunicated for being critical

[Buck]

'Apostasy', this is a really interesting article about coercing a group culture 
of membership faithfulness through administrative fealty testing.
  
"...their view that he is an apostate, which means a person who renounces a 
religious or political belief or principle." 

The article does a good job of displaying spectrum of being either just 
critical, negative, apostasy (loss of belief), being antagonistic, outright 
combative, and then even terrorist-ick to either a movement administrator or as 
an organizational fanatic might see it.  You can see the full spectrum of this 
in writers on FFL here too from practicing meditators, to critical meditators, 
to TM apostates to even TM-hater terrorists.  It is a really interesting short 
comparative article about things.  Thanks.
-Buck   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> This article brings up for me the thorny question of what would happen
> if he became President and his most trusted adviser Eric Fehrnstrom
> (shown below as Batman to Romney's Robin) said to him, "Mitt, I don't
> really think it's a good idea to nuke both Iran and the American
> Homeless the same day?" Would he consider this advice as valid and
> useful, or would he call the bishops and have Fehrnstrom excommunicated?
>   [featureimg] Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney CriticAfter writing
> negative articles about the Republican candidate, the  managing editor
> of MormonThink.com says he faces excommunication. Is the  Church on a
> witch hunt? Jamie Reno reports.
> David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is
> managing editor of MormonThink.com <http://mormonthink.com/> ,  an
> online magazine produced largely by members of the Mormon Church  that
> welcomes scholarly debate about the religion's history from both 
> critics and true believers.
> A  Mormon in good standing, Twede has never been disciplined by Latter
> Day  Saints leadership. But it now appears his days as a Mormon may be 
> numbered because of a series of articles he wrote this past week that 
> were critical of Mitt Romney <http://mormonthink.com/politics.htm> .
> 
> On  Sunday, Twede says his bishop, stake president, and two  church
> executives brought him into Florida Mormon church offices in  Orlando
> and interrogated him for nearly an hour about his writings,  telling
> him, "Cease and desist, Brother Twede."
> 
> Mormon leaders have scheduled an excommunication
> <http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Disciplinary_Procedures>  "for apostasy"
> on Sept. 30. A spokesman for the church
> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/17/mormon-church-scramble\
> s-in-romney-spotlight.html>  told The Daily Beast that the church would
> not be commenting for this story.
> 
> In  an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, Twede says that during
> the  interrogation he felt "attacked, cornered, and very anxious."
> 
> The  four church leaders verbally chastised him, he says, for hiding his
> identity on MormonThink and his personal blog in order to avoid 
> discipline. Twede, who writes using only his first name, says they kept 
> asking him why he didn't identify himself online if he had nothing
> to  hide.
> 
> "I  told them I hide my name precisely because of things like
> this," he  says. "I said, `Look how fast you got to me.'
> I know a lot of members  don't want their life disturbed. In the
> Mormon church, if you're not  part of the uniform group
> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/david-frum-on-how-romn\
> ey-s-religion-is-his-greatest-asset.html> , you are ostracized."
> 
> Twede  asked church leaders how they came up with his name so fast after
> posting the articles. They wouldn't tell him, but he says he's since
> been told by a church insider that a contributor to the pro-Mormon
> Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research
> <http://www.fairlds.org/> ,  many of whose members are professors at
> Brigham Young University,  alerted church officials in Salt Lake City,
> who apparently informed his  local ecclesiastical leaders.
> 
> "When they interrogated me, they  denied that they were on a witch
> hunt, but they kept asking me, `Who are  the other individuals you
> work with on MormonThink?'" he says. "They  continued demanding
> that I tell them. But I didn't."
> 
> Twede's situation was first publicly disclosed this week on an ex-Mormon
> online discussion site by Steve Benson
> <http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/benson/> , the
> Pulitzer Prize–winning editorial cartoonist for The Arizona Republic
> and grandson of

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not just TMers who get excommunicated for being critical

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 'Apostasy', this is a really interesting article about coercing a group 
> culture of membership faithfulness through administrative fealty testing.
>   
> "...their view that he is an apostate, which means a person who renounces a 
> religious or political belief or principle." 
>

With the administrative Mormons apostasy is probably more about their religious 
story-belief and a fanatical organizational judging of that constancy.   TM 
right now is in a flux over this with its old meditating community and is 
somewhat more careful itself to not pursue apostasy into its meditators quite 
as far as it has in its past or acknowledge it much.  One element in TM would 
like to have more meditators in the Dome meditating.  Another element would 
change nothing.  
 
> The article does a good job of displaying spectrum of being either just 
> critical, negative, apostasy (loss of belief), being antagonistic, outright 
> combative, and then even terrorist-ick to either a movement administrator or 
> as an organizational fanatic might see it.  You can see the full spectrum of 
> this in writers on FFL here too from practicing meditators, to critical 
> meditators, to TM apostates to even TM-hater terrorists.  It is a really 
> interesting short comparative article about things.  Thanks.
> -Buck   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > This article brings up for me the thorny question of what would happen
> > if he became President and his most trusted adviser Eric Fehrnstrom
> > (shown below as Batman to Romney's Robin) said to him, "Mitt, I don't
> > really think it's a good idea to nuke both Iran and the American
> > Homeless the same day?" Would he consider this advice as valid and
> > useful, or would he call the bishops and have Fehrnstrom excommunicated?
> >   [featureimg] Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney CriticAfter writing
> > negative articles about the Republican candidate, the  managing editor
> > of MormonThink.com says he faces excommunication. Is the  Church on a
> > witch hunt? Jamie Reno reports.
> > David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is
> > managing editor of MormonThink.com <http://mormonthink.com/> ,  an
> > online magazine produced largely by members of the Mormon Church  that
> > welcomes scholarly debate about the religion's history from both 
> > critics and true believers.
> > A  Mormon in good standing, Twede has never been disciplined by Latter
> > Day  Saints leadership. But it now appears his days as a Mormon may be 
> > numbered because of a series of articles he wrote this past week that 
> > were critical of Mitt Romney <http://mormonthink.com/politics.htm> .
> > 
> > On  Sunday, Twede says his bishop, stake president, and two  church
> > executives brought him into Florida Mormon church offices in  Orlando
> > and interrogated him for nearly an hour about his writings,  telling
> > him, "Cease and desist, Brother Twede."
> > 
> > Mormon leaders have scheduled an excommunication
> > <http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Disciplinary_Procedures>  "for apostasy"
> > on Sept. 30. A spokesman for the church
> > <http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/17/mormon-church-scramble\
> > s-in-romney-spotlight.html>  told The Daily Beast that the church would
> > not be commenting for this story.
> > 
> > In  an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, Twede says that during
> > the  interrogation he felt "attacked, cornered, and very anxious."
> > 
> > The  four church leaders verbally chastised him, he says, for hiding his
> > identity on MormonThink and his personal blog in order to avoid 
> > discipline. Twede, who writes using only his first name, says they kept 
> > asking him why he didn't identify himself online if he had nothing
> > to  hide.
> > 
> > "I  told them I hide my name precisely because of things like
> > this," he  says. "I said, `Look how fast you got to me.'
> > I know a lot of members  don't want their life disturbed. In the
> > Mormon church, if you're not  part of the uniform group
> > <http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/david-frum-on-how-romn\
> > ey-s-religion-is-his-greatest-asset.html> , you are ostracized."
> > 
> > Twede  asked church leaders how they came up with his name so fast after
> > posting the articles. They wouldn't tell him, but he says he's since
> > been told by a church insider that 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Devas and Architecture

[Buck]

Jackson, this is quite the indictment, or reads like one.  It seems there is a 
lot of truth in it.  You wrote a post last week that was an indictment of yogic 
flying as people see it that also had a lot of truth in it.

If you were on a committee of folks that inherited the TMo, how would you go 
forward?  What would you have the committee do that they could, given what they 
got?  Just wondering.  You seem to have a perspective of having been around.  
Going forward how would you take it?  What would you urge a committee to do?
-Buck in the Dome  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> I can see that it might appear that way if you have not seen some of my other 
> posts here. So for clarification, here is my take on Maharishi. 
> 
> I did get and still get benefit from meditation, whether I do TM or any of 
> the other meditations I do.
> 
> I was only in a room with Maharishi once and felt tremendous energy wash over 
> me as he turned his gaze on me, so I can see how people would be led to 
> believe he was enlightened. I believe one can have tremendous power, energy 
> and ability yet still be driven by one's ego, as I believe Maharishi was. 
> 
> I feel Maharishi had tremendous personal power, personal charisma, tremendous 
> personal Light, power and talent. 
> 
> In many ways I think he was a genius, but to put it in Lord of the Rings 
> terms and quote John Tolkien, after a certain point, Maharishi ceased to act 
> like a Defender of the West and began to behave more like Saruman in his 
> decline. As far as the TM Movement goes, what the master creates, the 
> servants usually follow. 
> 
> That means in plain terms that the leadership of the Movement in my opinion 
> has always taken their cue from a man who routinely lied, used people for his 
> own purposes with no regard for their mental, emotional, or financial 
> well-being and deliberately solicited money under false pretenses to amass a 
> huge fortune for himself and close associates. 
> 
> So Maharishi had great knowledge, was a fantastic orator, and had great 
> personal energy and he also had ego and mis-used his power and light. 
> 
> His meditation technique is legitimate and useful, his ego based Movement is 
> not. I think he was probably pretty legitimate until about the time he hooked 
> up with the Beatles, or just before, tho if you take the words of Joyce 
> Collin-Smith who wrote about Maharishi in "Call No Man Master" the ego trip 
> was already evident before the Beatles came along.
> 
> I have looked at and an in some cases experienced other "guru movements" and 
> to date I have yet to find one who does not allow their egos to run the show. 
> These are the ones who typically amass a large following - Amma, Sai Baba, 
> Muktananda, Guru Mai, Kriyananda and on and on.
> 
> So you can have great power and not be fully enlightened and let your ego 
> take over. The scams that have the greatest success are those that are based 
> on truth. Maharishi taught truth with the basic knowledge that there is a 
> field of Unbounded Energy and Intelligence that underlies all creation and 
> individuals can tap into that Pure Awareness and change their lives. 
> 
> He lied when he said that HIS meditation is the best and fastest way to inner 
> freedom. His initial message was true, but all the bells and whistles he 
> added later were for his own self aggrandizement and monetary enrichment. 
> 
> So I do not argue with or contend with the basic truth of "dying the cloth," 
> nor do I dispute the usefulness of the set of TM mantras for connecting to 
> the Absolute. I have learned however that mantra meditation is not necessary 
> to connect to and become one with Pure Awareness.
> 
> I certainly have had the proverbial "good experiences" of CC, GC and some 
> Unity in the years I did TM exclusively as my spiritual practice. As things 
> have progressed for me I feel some degree of Pure Awareness in my body and 
> all around me in my environment nearly all the time. Some things will trigger 
> a deeper experience of that such as doing chi gung and as odd as it may 
> sound, from watching old tapes of Maharishi talking about Sat Chit Ananda. 
> Old tapes mind you, I happen to be pretty sure that Maharishi suffered from 
> dementia in his later years. In fact having seen it in family members and 
> friends more than once, I am convinced of it.
> 
> As to the Movement,what they have done is follow in the footsteps of 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who created a personal "followship" religion. The 
> Movement became all about Maharishi, making him the center piece and central 
> focus of everyone's attention. He wanted to be the one to whom

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's not just TMers who get excommunicated for being critical

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> 
> It is an interesting article and I agree with your comments on it.
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > 'Apostasy', this is a really interesting article about coercing a group 
> > > culture of membership faithfulness through administrative fealty testing.
> > >   
> > > "...their view that he is an apostate, which means a person who renounces 
> > > a religious or political belief or principle." 
> > >
> > 
> > With the administrative Mormons apostasy is probably more about their 
> > religious story-belief and a fanatical organizational judging of that 
> > constancy.   TM right now is in a flux over this with its old meditating 
> > community and is somewhat more careful itself to not pursue apostasy into 
> > its meditators quite as far as it has in its past or acknowledge it much.  
> > One element in TM would like to have more meditators in the Dome 
> > meditating.  Another element would change nothing.  
> >  
> > > The article does a good job of displaying spectrum of being either just 
> > > critical, negative, apostasy (loss of belief), being antagonistic, 
> > > outright combative, and then even terrorist-ick to either a movement 
> > > administrator or as an organizational fanatic might see it.  You can see 
> > > the full spectrum of this in writers on FFL here too from practicing 
> > > meditators, to critical meditators, to TM apostates to even TM-hater 
> > > terrorists.  It is a really interesting short comparative article about 
> > > things.  Thanks.
> > > -Buck   
> > >

Yup,
An organizational pretense of TM early-on promulgated more simply was about 
teaching TM as a practice and organizational for those practicing TM meditation 
("Anyone who can think and meditate" inclusively).  That was a lot of what the 
TM  administration was about before and up to the mid-1970's.Some people by 
temperament deeper inside TM would hope it to also be more exclusively about 
judging fealty towards Maharishi and/or to 'Maharishi's teaching'.  This later 
had gotten to be a pretty small isolated group in control of TM by the 1990's 
and 00's with large numbers of the meditation movement community having peeled 
off by and through the 00's.  Evidently there are elements of TM who still 
would see to sorting members in an ascendency of fealty if they had their way.  

Today in the Dome there is quite a lot of pranam-ing to pictures of Maharishi 
and the Holy Tradition in 'followers' as some people come and go in to the 
meditation hall; and there is also formal break for a puja ceremony within the 
larger meditation program all with overtones of wanting the culture of a TM 
movement now  to go somewhere culturally as a display of a faith in Maharishi, 
yogic flying, and meditation as the vedic revival of of lost knowledge in its 
purity from Guru Dev  (and better that no apostates be allowed, if fanatics had 
their way).   The faith and belief part of the meditating community.  These are 
the core of the strict preservationists as an element inside who are still a 
little stronger than progressive TM'ers like over on the David Lynch side of 
TM.  The larger TM movement community like the Mormons is hardly monolithic 
when you look into it.  There are elements.
-Buck
   
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This article brings up for me the thorny question of what would happen
> > > > if he became President and his most trusted adviser Eric Fehrnstrom
> > > > (shown below as Batman to Romney's Robin) said to him, "Mitt, I don't
> > > > really think it's a good idea to nuke both Iran and the American
> > > > Homeless the same day?" Would he consider this advice as valid and
> > > > useful, or would he call the bishops and have Fehrnstrom excommunicated?
> > > >   [featureimg] Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney CriticAfter writing
> > > > negative articles about the Republican candidate, the  managing editor
> > > > of MormonThink.com says he faces excommunication. Is the  Church on a
> > > > witch hunt? Jamie Reno reports.
> > > > David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is
> > > > managing editor of MormonThink.com <http://mormonthink.com/> ,  an
> > > > online magazine produced largely by members of the Mormon Church  that
> > > > welcomes scholarly debate about the religion's h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apostate Meditators

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> Being one of the apostates, I am happy Rick included me.
>

Dear Jackson, you ain't no apostate. By what you write you seem not to be in 
apostasy.  You, still a meditator like Liberation-Seeker here, may be critical 
about things and somewhat negative about the TMo by some standards but 
evidently not a TM apostate. You're not that low.  Let's be accurate here, 
you're a critical meditator.  

Now, that is not to say that the Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa might not 
Declare you apostate and lifting your Dome badge have the course office remove 
your eligibility to meditate with the large group.  Now, that certainly 
happens.  But I don't see you as non-meditator or apostate so I'll keep reading 
your posts.  

 "Never shall we denounce anyone.
Never entertain negativity."

  saha nau avatu . 
saha nau bhunaktu . 
saha viiryaM karavaavahai .
tejasvi nau; 
adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai . 

 Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
may It nourish us both together;
May we work conjointly with great energy,
May our study be vigorous and effective;
May we not mutually dispute 
May we not hate any.

In Love,
-Buck in the Dome
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
> >
> > Damned apostate meditators.
> > Well, I must admit here in considering this that being practical as an 
> > experienced and an old practiced meditator on FFL I find myself sorting by 
> > apostasy and deleting through posts for merit to read by whether the 
> > writers are meditators or not meditators at all, whether being disciplined 
> > practicing meditators or not, being just critical meditators or apostate 
> > and non-meditators.  It saves a lot of precious time spiritually.  
> > 
> > For after all what spiritually speaking could non-meditators or even 
> > apostate meditators who quit along the way possibly have to say anyway..  
> > Sorting Apostasy and meditators does work on a level.  You know, there are 
> > meditators and TM-movement meditators and then others.   Meditators after 
> > all are either for it or against it as apostates.   As a conservative 
> > meditator I'd just assume delete the fallen away meditator-apostates as 
> > non-meditators.  That works.  Damned apostate meditators anyway.  Plainly, 
> > I don't understand why non-meditators even get to be members here let alone 
> > post here.  Let 'em be lurkers but posting members, no.   Frankly this list 
> > here could be spiritually improved quite a lot if Rick would tighten up and 
> > clean-up the membership towards people who are at least actually meditation 
> > practitioners.  Hasten the day.  
> > -Buck in the Dome
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apostate Meditators

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
wrote:
>
> I agree with you that transcendence is a deeper and more significant quality 
> of consciousness and a major step towards evolution. 
>  
> > Dear Liberation Seeker;
> > Yes, so the science says so; that transcendence is the way of evolution.
> > For many good reasons that even the science is showing now that
> >  everyone should meditate, take time out and meditate.
> > Even for the awakened there is more work to do.
> > But certainly for the seeker.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > -Buck
> >  
Yep,
As a community we meditate everyday together at 7:30am and 5pm  
In Fairfield.  There's a great spiritual and field effect of meditation 
here in Fairfield which is rich.  Our State motto has been,"Iowa, a Place to 
Grow".   It's true, there is a rich and old field of spirituality all about 
Fairfield that goes way back.  Today's meditators and the flow of Sat gurus who 
have come through Iowa are the extension of what has been here before; 
high-minded community and spirituality.
It's very Iowan and American.  It's one of the more spiritual places on earth 
right now.
If you haven't you should take the opportunity to come sit
with it too.  If you haven't been here recently you should visit again,
put it on your bucket list at least, before you die.

-Buck in the Dome 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Outside View in to Fairfield

[Buck]

Looking at Fairfield:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> An outside view of Communal Meditating Fairfield
> A critical analysis 
> I like this 1844 essay for some good parallels to the present in the 
> analysis.  
> The delineation of the 3 ways people look to participate is a good 
> way of seeing some of the why and the character of who has come to 
> the modern FF version of American utopian experiment.  Also, the 
> observation about the corrupting influence of money on their group, 
> segmenting of the group by the handling of money.  Can see this even 
> now.
> 
> Traveling around the state of Iowa now I often find people who look 
> from the outside wondering what is going on in Fairfield.  Most often 
> they have only a general monolithic sense of Fairfield with 
> its `meditators'.  Picture they may get from the Des Moines Register 
> about MUM or other media notes and TMmovement promotions.  Mostly 
> they see something that is `different' going on here without much of 
> a discerning handle on it.  So there is a frequent question about 
> what is going on in Fairfield, wanting an inside view.
> 
> In truth of course it is not monolithic at all here.  That the 
> utopian spiritual practice community which is in Fairfield now is 
> mature and way more diverse than the TMmovement now.  That it is 
> utopian, experiment, is very American actually and is much more than 
> the TMmovement, in Fairfield.  
> 
> The fun in running in to people and being introduced as being from 
> Fairfield is to see that interest in folks where they recognize 
> Fairfield for what is has become. Where they can tell that it is much 
> more than the TMmovement and that the meditator community is in fact 
> way more diverse.  Even made up of folks like everyone else except 
> that meditators pursue active spiritual practice here.  That it is 
> way more than just TM, is very utopian, large in thinking but that it 
> is in fact also very American.   
> 
>
> 
> Fairfield. Meditators. The meditating churches, the meditating 
> satsangs, some meditators remaining on campus,the meditators up in 
> VC, the meditating community off-campus out in FF & meditators out in 
> the greater Jefferson County area.
> 
> 
> 
> This `outside view' essay was part of a larger book chronicling the 
> life of Brook Farm, an early-American transcendentalist utopian 
> communal experiment of the 1840's, similar in ways to Fairfield.
> 
> This is a good read: 
> http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/etext05/brkfm10.htm
> 
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 
> 
> 
> AN OUTSIDE VIEW OF Communal (Meditating Fairfield). Critical Analysis:
> 
> _From the Dial of January, 1844._
> 
> Though familiarly designated a "Community," it is only so in the
> process of eating in commons; a practice at least as antiquated as the
> collegiate halls of old England, where it still continues without
> producing, as far as we can learn, any of the Spartan virtues. A
> residence at (meditating Fairfield) does not involve either a 
> community of money,
> of opinions or of sympathy. The motives which bring individuals there,
> may be as various as their numbers. In fact, the present residents are
> divisible into three distinct classes; and if the majority in numbers
> were considered, it is possible that a vote in favor of self-sacrifice
> for the common good would not be very strongly carried.
> 
> The leading portion of the adult inmates, they whose presence imparts
> the greatest peculiarity and the fraternal tone to the household,
> believe that an improved state of existence would be developed in
> Association, and are therefore anxious to promote it. Another class
> consists of those who join with the view of bettering their condition,
> by being exempt from some portion of worldly strife. The third portion
> comprises those who have their own development or education for their
> principal object.
> 
> Practically, too, the institution manifests a threefold improvement
> over the world at large, corresponding to these three motives. In
> consequence of the first, the companionship, the personal intercourse,
> the social bearing, are of a marked and very superior character. There
> may possibly to some minds, long accustomed to other modes, appear a
> want of homeness and of the private fireside; but all observers must
> acknowledge a brotherly and softening condition, highly conducive to
> the permanent and pleasant growth of all the better human qualities. 
> If
> the life is not of a deeply religious cast, it is at least not 
> inferior
> to that which is exemplified elsewhere, and there is the advantage of
> an entire absence of assumption and pretence. The moral atmosphere, so
> far, is pure; and there is found a strong desire to walk ever on the
> mountain tops of life; though taste, rather than piety, is the aspect
> presented to the eye.
> 
> In the second class of motives we have enumerated there is a strong
> tendency to an imp

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Alternative

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> People wonder why administrators who practice the tm-sidhi program for
> 40 years are so unkind and uncaring. Look no farther than the how the
> first three sutra-s are practiced - three reps of three ideas ... that
> is all.
>

That job.  I have friends who have experience working in the movement's course 
office over the years.  Hopefully the guidelines facilitate what is going on.  
When the guidelines are less than fair to people there can be a lot of deep 
(spiritual) hurt in enforcing them where it wrecks people's lives as it can.  
At times this has been real bad.  The course office position holds a lot of 
power over people.  There is a lot of communal hurt around that and the people 
working there end up a conduit for that communal hurt and consequent anger.  If 
someone doesn't have a thick skin before coming in to the job they get one or 
get out.  It's an soul corrupting job if ever there was one like being a 
Ring-bearer in Lord of the Rings.  Hopefully the guidelines help facilitate 
what we are doing and not get in the way of it.  The guidelines evidently have 
caused a lot of trouble that way.  There's a reality to that.
-Buck 


> Although engaged with during tm-sanyama, the three sutra-s are initial
> ideas. Their possible results? According to MMY some feelings of
> "warmth". But why should only three repetitions of such introductory
> feelings produce a significant, lasting change in someone?
> 
> MMY used to analogize every method other than tm/tm-sidhi as just
> another "cart and bullock" practice.
> 
> As a counter-point, here is a condensed and succinct example of the main
> method used in the traditions of Patanjali Yogasutra-s and Gautama
> Buddha's eight-fold path. Once you get a feel for it, you will
> understand why these Abodes of Brahma (Brahma Viharas) are considered
> essential for actualizing and realizing awakened liberation.
> 
> ….
> 
> The Four Brahma Viharas
> 
> A guided meditation by Ven. Ayya Khema
> 
> Think of the four brahma viharas, the four supreme emotions,
> loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy (joy with others), and
> equanimity. And see them, as the Buddha explained them, as the only
> emotions worth having. Nothing else has any real place in our hearts.
> And think your heart as yearning to be filled with love and compassion,
> with joy with others, and equanimity. See your heart as yearning for
> that and then fill it with those emotions. The warmth of love. The care
> of compassion. The generosity of joy with others. And the peacefulness
> of equanimity. Fill your heart to the brim.
> 
> And now spread the love and compassion, and the joy with others, and the
> equanimity through this room. So that there is the warmth and the care,
> the generosity and the peacefulness of it all through this room, so that
> everyone can partake of it.
> 
> And now let these four emotions, with their warmth and their caring,
> their generosity and their peacefulness emanate from your heart and
> reach out to the people who are close to you, so that they can have part
> of it, without expecting that you can get the same back.
> 
> Now let all your friends partake of the beautiful emanation from your
> heart. Loving and compassionate. Caring and peaceful.
> 
> Now reach out to other people you know. Neighbors. People you might work
> with. Those you meet in everyday life. Let the heart full of
> loving-kindness and compassion reach out to all these people that you
> can think of.
> 
> Now think anyone towards whom you have some negative feeling in your
> ordinary life, and don't change your heart now. Allow it to retain love
> and compassion, joy with others, and equanimity and let those same
> emotions reach out to that
> difficult person.
> 
> Now feel your heart emanating the beautiful rays of love and compassion,
> the warmth and the caring, the giving and peacefulness and let these
> rays go out into the world and touch people's hearts near and far.
> Think of people around here and then go further afield. Letting these
> beautiful rays and emanations from your heart go to as many hearts as
> you can find.
> 
> And put your attention back on yourself and feel the warmth of
> loving-kindness and the peacefulness of giving permeate you, fill you
> and surround you. The warmth in the heart brings joy and the
> peacefulness that surrounds you brings a feeling of security.
> 
> May beings everywhere love each other.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Seek,  I agree that TMers a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: nablusoss1008 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:24 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > They are just my opinion, like all the things that are posted here are the 
> > opinions of the writers, although I do rub elbows with Buddha every so 
> > often. He doesn't say much, just mostly radiates Oneness. I like it right 
> > much. 
> > 
> > Oh, and I don't consider either Maharishi or Amma to be Masters, but I 
> > could tell you a dab about Ascended Masters if you like.
> 
> 
> Really, Ascended Masters ? Yes indeed, I am very interested indeed to learn 
> more from you about this very interesting topic ! 
> It is not so often we welcome a contributor here that is so emminently 
> qualified to tell us about the status of Buddha, Yogis and Yoginis, Masters 
> and about Oneness in general as you seem to be. So please bring it on, let us 
> know as much as possible about your research into this very interesting theme 
> !
> 
>

Careful Jackson, pearls before swine.  This is a tough rough crowd here.  Rick 
has visions of this place being a salon but it plays more like a saloon.
Kindly,
-Buck in the Dome
 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm really happy you joined this board Mr. Jackson. You see, what is 
> > lacking here is deep insights into the nature of things, any thing really. 
> > And since you are so sure about this and that, now about Amma, it's an even 
> > greater joy to read your posts since they most definately come from the 
> > deep insights of an enlightened being. Keep up the good work and please let 
> > us know more about your profound insights into the workings of the Masters.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Meditative Iowa

[Buck]

Meditative Iowa

An earliest account of spiritual practice in Iowa goes back to
the Iowa natives themselves:
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/testimonials-1 

Meditation as Spiritual practice and the recognition of a field effect in Group 
practice of meditation as a sadhana came early on with European settlement in 
Iowa too. 

Iowa Group Meditations: Here's an Iowa 19th Century map of where there were 
active regular meetings for group meditation very similar to our current TM 
Patanjaliac transcendence practice of the discernment of Bhuti and Purusha:
http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves/friendsmeetingsiowa1870.jpg 
 
Early Iowa meditation practice: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/dZwST3nteSw
  

Practicing American Transcendentalists came early too along with the migration 
to Iowa,
Communal Springwater:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/6WjEbY2HOxU
 

The Amana Colony was a practicing meditation ashram in its day:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/1o-OegxC-zA
 

Grinnell and that college town would similarly be of that Transcendentalist 
American spiritual movement too.  Pioneering Iowa Congregational Churches of 
that era in territorial settlement were of a lineage of the spiritually 
progressive churches of Emerson and Thoreau then, different from a growing and 
increasingly contentious doctrinal evangelical religious movement of that day.  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/ED27-D_voik
 
  

Historically TM then comes to Iowa later.
When TM came to Iowa:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/219231 
 
-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > Dear Liberation Seeker;
> > > Yes, so the science says so; that transcendence is the way of evolution.
> > > For many good reasons that even the science is showing now that
> > >  everyone should meditate, take time out and meditate.
> > > Even for the awakened there is more work to do.
> > > But certainly for the seeker.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > -Buck
> > >  
> Yep,
> As a community we meditate everyday together at 7:30am and 5pm  
> In Fairfield.  There's a great spiritual and field effect of meditation 
> here in Fairfield which is rich.  Our State motto has been,"Iowa, a Place to 
> Grow".   It's true, there is a rich and old field of spirituality all about 
> Fairfield that goes way back.  Today's meditators and the flow of Sat gurus 
> who have come through Iowa are the extension of what has been here before; 
> high-minded community and spirituality.
> It's very Iowan and American.  It's one of the more spiritual places on earth 
> right now.
> If you haven't you should take the opportunity to come sit
> with it too.  If you haven't been here recently you should visit again,
> put it on your bucket list at least, before you die.
> 
> -Buck in the Dome
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Do you think this page is accurate?
> 
> http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml
> 
>

Om Yeah, that's my experience.  Great essay. It explains a lot in one place. 
Thanks.
-Buck, in the Dome
 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2
>  
> 
>   
> If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then 
> you need to find a teacher who will teach you some "mantra shastra." 
> You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere.  Swami 
> Sivananda was famous for teaching it.  My tantric guru teaches it too. 
> He also recommends Swami Sivananda's book "Mind -- Its Mysteries and 
> Control" which you may find here:
> http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm
> 
> Published in 1946 way before TM was a twinkle in MMY's eye.
> 
> TM is nothing more than a simple mantra meditation not unlike a lot of 
> meditation taught elsewhere.  It was just hyped like Apple hypes PCs 
> tablets and phones with their logo on it.
> 
> On 09/27/2012 12:03 PM, mjackson74 wrote:
> > Look Richard, let me be very plain here - I do not give a damn where the 
> > mantras came from nor do I know why you obsess over their origins so much. 
> > Were I to be coming to TM now with no prior knowledge of the practice, I 
> > might be interested.
> >
> > In 1974 it never occurred to me to ask - I accepted the statement that 
> > Virginia Bedford and Jamie Vollmer (the two TM Center people) made that the 
> > mantras were meaningless sounds. John Briganti, the first teacher I took a 
> > residence course with told us the same thing. Believed it too. And since 
> > the mantra still works after 38 years, I see no need to ask where it came 
> > from.
> >
> > My remarks about my other two mantras received from the Movement were 
> > facetious references to my two advanced techniques.
> >
> > The other two bija mantras came as I said, one from Bob Fickes, former TM 
> > teacher who I believe was on TTC with Rick (sorry if I got that wrong Rick.)
> >
> > Bob now has his own thing he calls Fulfillment Meditation. Totally 
> > different set of mantras although interestingly he still does puja, but he 
> > puts pics of not only Guru Dev on the puja table but pics of Kwan Yin, 
> > Archangel Michael and so on.
> >
> > The last bija mantra I got is a Deepak Chopra mantra. Chopra instructors do 
> > not use TM puja. Their meditation program was mainly put together by Deepak 
> > and Roger Gabriel, an old TM teacher who I believe left the TM Movement the 
> > same time Chopra did and went with him to California when Chopra set up the 
> > Chopra Center.
> >
> > The Chopra instructors use a sanskrit chant, the shanti mantra Gabriel 
> > called it, which shanti mantra chant I do not know.
> >
> > So yes, when I use the Babaji mantra (what Bob calls his mantras) I am not 
> > doing TM.
> >
> > When I use the Chopra mantra, I am not doing TM. '
> >
> > When I use my three TM mantras (spoken facetiously for the Fairfield Life's 
> > version of Sheldon Cooper's benefit), meaning my TM mantra plus advanced 
> > techniques, I am doing TM. If that don't satisfy you Sheldon, I dunno whut.
> >
> > Nice pic of Michael Jackson - that obviously is not me or these posts would 
> > be coming from beyond the grave.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Careful Jackson, pearls before swine.  This is
> >>>> a tough rough crowd here.  Rick has visions of
> >>>> this place being a salon but it plays more like
> >>>> a saloon...
> >>>>
> >> nablusoss1008:
> >>> With all due respect Buck, why not let the
> >>> posters speak freely?
> >>>
> >><http://www.vanityfair.com/>
> >>
> >> Apparently Mr. Jackson doesn't want to talk about
> >> the elephant in the room - the bijas mantra you get
> >> when you start TM. Jackson desn't seem to know
> >> much about them - he didn't seem to realize that
> >> you get only one bija when you learn TM, when he
> >> paid the $65.
> >>
> >> And, if you adopt other bijas from other teachers,
> >> then you're not practicing TM.
> >>
> >>> When finally someone with an insiders
> >>> view on the above topics volunteer to share his
> >>> insights who are you to try to stop him?
> >> So, it's unlikely you'll be getting any insider
> >> information revealed by Mr. Jackson.
> >>
> >>> Let anyone freely display his Pearls of Wisdom !
> >>>
> >> LoL!
> >>
> >> Michael Jackson?
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Alternative

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > People wonder why administrators who practice the tm-sidhi program for
> > 40 years are so unkind and uncaring. Look no farther than the how the
> > first three sutra-s are practiced - three reps of three ideas ... that
> > is all.
> >
> 
> That job.  I have friends who have experience working in the movement's 
> course office over the years.  Hopefully the guidelines facilitate what is 
> going on.  When the guidelines are less than fair to people there can be a 
> lot of deep (spiritual) hurt in enforcing them where it wrecks people's lives 
> as it can.  At times this has been real bad.  The course office position 
> holds a lot of power over people.  There is a lot of communal hurt around 
> that and the people working there end up a conduit for that communal hurt and 
> consequent anger.  If someone doesn't have a thick skin before coming in to 
> the job they get one or get out.  It's an soul corrupting job if ever there 
> was one like being a Ring-bearer in Lord of the Rings.  Hopefully the 
> guidelines help facilitate what we are doing and not get in the way of it.  
> The guidelines evidently have caused a lot of trouble that way.  There's a 
> reality to that.
> -Buck 
>

 "He who believes his practice is the best practice is a devotee.  
He who believes his practice is the only practice is a zealot."
-MMY

Of a necessity that course office job-description wants a loyal trusted devotee 
but could easily predispose towards the fanatic as it also concentrates a lot 
of the movement 'organizational face' in to a person.  That has been 
breath-taking for the community at times.  It comes with an ego position of 
ongoing judging, coercion and taking away in an organizational job that all the 
time could easily corrupt a soul.  It would take a special soul to pull it off 
gracefully.  Pity the poor soul of the lowly policeman.  It would probably be 
more healthy for everyone involved to rotate these people in and out.  In 
empathy for the situation let them have other jobs where they can serve giving 
things to people for a change.  That would be kind for these otherwise loyal 
people who get a lot of anger and hate where they have been.  

-Buck

> 
> > Although engaged with during tm-sanyama, the three sutra-s are initial
> > ideas. Their possible results? According to MMY some feelings of
> > "warmth". But why should only three repetitions of such introductory
> > feelings produce a significant, lasting change in someone?
> > 
> > MMY used to analogize every method other than tm/tm-sidhi as just
> > another "cart and bullock" practice.
> > 
> > As a counter-point, here is a condensed and succinct example of the main
> > method used in the traditions of Patanjali Yogasutra-s and Gautama
> > Buddha's eight-fold path. Once you get a feel for it, you will
> > understand why these Abodes of Brahma (Brahma Viharas) are considered
> > essential for actualizing and realizing awakened liberation.
> > 
> > ….
> > 
> > The Four Brahma Viharas
> > 
> > A guided meditation by Ven. Ayya Khema
> > 
> > Think of the four brahma viharas, the four supreme emotions,
> > loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy (joy with others), and
> > equanimity. And see them, as the Buddha explained them, as the only
> > emotions worth having. Nothing else has any real place in our hearts.
> > And think your heart as yearning to be filled with love and compassion,
> > with joy with others, and equanimity. See your heart as yearning for
> > that and then fill it with those emotions. The warmth of love. The care
> > of compassion. The generosity of joy with others. And the peacefulness
> > of equanimity. Fill your heart to the brim.
> > 
> > And now spread the love and compassion, and the joy with others, and the
> > equanimity through this room. So that there is the warmth and the care,
> > the generosity and the peacefulness of it all through this room, so that
> > everyone can partake of it.
> > 
> > And now let these four emotions, with their warmth and their caring,
> > their generosity and their peacefulness emanate from your heart and
> > reach out to the people who are close to you, so that they can have part
> > of it, without expecting that you can get the same back.
> > 
> > Now let all your friends partake of the beautiful emanation from your
> > heart. Loving and compassionate. Caring and peaceful.
> > 
> > Now reac

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Alternative

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Buck, I love the Maharishi quote.  Admire your compassion.  Share
> 
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> >
> > "He who believes his practice is the best practice is a devotee.  
> > He who believes his practice is the only practice is a zealot."
> > -MMY
> 
> Please provide a citation for this quote, Buck. I ask
> because it really doesn't sound like anything he would
> ever have said, and a quick "Look inside this book"
> search on Amazon confirms that it is contained in 
> neither the Science of Being or his commentary on
> the Gita. So if you can tell us exactly where it came
> from, I would appreciate it.
>

Dear Turq, Of course he said it.  I heard him.  It was one of those remarkable 
quotes you remember.  It was in one of those posted Youtube lecture videos of 
Maharishi that someone here on FFL had shared. Evidently it's in the tape 
library.  My partner remembers it too.

It's a pretty good operating definition for our purposes here that 
distinguishes between devotee types and fanatics.
-Buck   

> 
> 
>  From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:24 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Alternative
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > People wonder why administrators who practice the tm-sidhi program for
> > > 40 years are so unkind and uncaring. Look no farther than the how the
> > > first three sutra-s are practiced - three reps of three ideas ... that
> > > is all.
> > >
> >
 
> > That job.  I have friends who have experience working in the movement's 
> > course office over the years.  Hopefully the guidelines facilitate what is 
> > going on.  When the guidelines are less than fair to people there can be a 
> > lot of deep (spiritual) hurt in enforcing them where it wrecks people's 
> > lives as it can.  At times this has been real bad.  The course office 
> > position holds a lot of power over people.  There is a lot of communal hurt 
> > around that and the people working there end up a conduit for that communal 
> > hurt and consequent anger.  If someone doesn't have a thick skin before 
> > coming in to the job they get one or get out.  It's an soul corrupting job 
> > if ever there was one like being a Ring-bearer in Lord of the Rings.  
> > Hopefully the guidelines help facilitate what we are doing and not get in 
> > the way of it.  The guidelines evidently have caused a lot of trouble that 
> > way.  There's a reality to that.
> > -Buck 
> >
> 
> "He who believes his practice is the best practice is a devotee.  
> He who believes his practice is the only practice is a zealot."
> -MMY
> 
> Of a necessity that course office job-description wants a loyal trusted 
> devotee but could easily predispose towards the fanatic as it also 
> concentrates a lot of the movement 'organizational face' in to a person.  
> That has been breath-taking for the community at times.  It comes with an ego 
> position of ongoing judging, coercion and taking away in an organizational 
> job that all the time could easily corrupt a soul.  It would take a special 
> soul to pull it off gracefully.  Pity the poor soul of the lowly policeman.  
> It would probably be more healthy for everyone involved to rotate these 
> people in and out.  In empathy for the situation let them have other jobs 
> where they can serve giving things to people for a change.  That would be 
> kind for these otherwise loyal people who get a lot of anger and hate where 
> they have been. 
> 
> -Buck
> 
> > 
> > > Although engaged with during tm-sanyama, the three sutra-s are initial
> > > ideas. Their possible results? According to MMY some feelings of
> > > "warmth". But why should only three repetitions of such introductory
> > > feelings produce a significant, lasting change in someone?
> > > 
> > > MMY used to analogize every method other than tm/tm-sidhi as just
> > > another "cart and bullock" practice.
> > > 
> > > As a counter-point, here is a condensed and succinct example of the main
> > > method used in the traditions of Patanjali Yogasutra-s and Gautama
> > > Buddha's eight-fold path. Once 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2

[Buck]

Yes, excellent article.  Everyone on FFL should read this and certainly come 
back to meditate in the Domes!  Soon.
-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Do you think this page is accurate?
> 
> http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2007/haug07/sci.shtml
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Life is so much fun - Part 2
>  
> 
>   
> If you are interested in the effects of mantras and how to use them then 
> you need to find a teacher who will teach you some "mantra shastra." 
> You won't find one in TM so you'll have to look elsewhere.  Swami 
> Sivananda was famous for teaching it.  My tantric guru teaches it too. 
> He also recommends Swami Sivananda's book "Mind -- Its Mysteries and 
> Control" which you may find here:
> http://www.dlshq.org/download/mind.htm
> 
> Published in 1946 way before TM was a twinkle in MMY's eye.
> 
> TM is nothing more than a simple mantra meditation not unlike a lot of 
> meditation taught elsewhere.  It was just hyped like Apple hypes PCs 
> tablets and phones with their logo on it.
> 
> On 09/27/2012 12:03 PM, mjackson74 wrote:
> > Look Richard, let me be very plain here - I do not give a damn where the 
> > mantras came from nor do I know why you obsess over their origins so much. 
> > Were I to be coming to TM now with no prior knowledge of the practice, I 
> > might be interested.
> >
> > In 1974 it never occurred to me to ask - I accepted the statement that 
> > Virginia Bedford and Jamie Vollmer (the two TM Center people) made that the 
> > mantras were meaningless sounds. John Briganti, the first teacher I took a 
> > residence course with told us the same thing. Believed it too. And since 
> > the mantra still works after 38 years, I see no need to ask where it came 
> > from.
> >
> > My remarks about my other two mantras received from the Movement were 
> > facetious references to my two advanced techniques.
> >
> > The other two bija mantras came as I said, one from Bob Fickes, former TM 
> > teacher who I believe was on TTC with Rick (sorry if I got that wrong Rick.)
> >
> > Bob now has his own thing he calls Fulfillment Meditation. Totally 
> > different set of mantras although interestingly he still does puja, but he 
> > puts pics of not only Guru Dev on the puja table but pics of Kwan Yin, 
> > Archangel Michael and so on.
> >
> > The last bija mantra I got is a Deepak Chopra mantra. Chopra instructors do 
> > not use TM puja. Their meditation program was mainly put together by Deepak 
> > and Roger Gabriel, an old TM teacher who I believe left the TM Movement the 
> > same time Chopra did and went with him to California when Chopra set up the 
> > Chopra Center.
> >
> > The Chopra instructors use a sanskrit chant, the shanti mantra Gabriel 
> > called it, which shanti mantra chant I do not know.
> >
> > So yes, when I use the Babaji mantra (what Bob calls his mantras) I am not 
> > doing TM.
> >
> > When I use the Chopra mantra, I am not doing TM. '
> >
> > When I use my three TM mantras (spoken facetiously for the Fairfield Life's 
> > version of Sheldon Cooper's benefit), meaning my TM mantra plus advanced 
> > techniques, I am doing TM. If that don't satisfy you Sheldon, I dunno whut.
> >
> > Nice pic of Michael Jackson - that obviously is not me or these posts would 
> > be coming from beyond the grave.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Careful Jackson, pearls before swine.  This is
> >>>> a tough rough crowd here.  Rick has visions of
> >>>> this place being a salon but it plays more like
> >>>> a saloon...
> >>>>
> >> nablusoss1008:
> >>> With all due respect Buck, why not let the
> >>> posters speak freely?
> >>>
> >><http://www.vanityfair.com/>
> >>
> >> Apparently Mr. Jackson doesn't want to talk about
> >> the elephant in the room - the bijas mantra you get
> >> when you start TM. Jackson desn't seem to know
> >> much about them - he didn't seem to realize that
> >> you get only one bija when you learn TM, when he
> >> paid the $65.
> >>
> >> And, if you adopt other bijas from other teachers,
> >> then you're not practicing TM.
> >>
> >>> When finally someone with an insiders
> >>> view on the above topics volunteer to share his
> >>> insights who are you to try to stop him?
> >> So, it's unlikely you'll be getting any insider
> >> information revealed by Mr. Jackson.
> >>
> >>> Let anyone freely display his Pearls of Wisdom !
> >>>
> >> LoL!
> >>
> >> Michael Jackson?
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Zealotry (was: Re: An Alternative)

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> "He who believes his practice is the best practice is a devotee. He who
> believes his practice is the only practice is a zealot."
> 
> Having expressed my disbelief to Buck that this quote is from Maharishi,
> or a verbatim quote if it is, I'll trip on it a bit.
> 
> I'm not convinced that there is all that much difference between the
> definition of "devotee" given in this quote and the definition of
> "zealot." It kinda seems to me as if there is a schmear of zealotry in
> both descriptions.
> 
> I would never say that my practice is the best practice. Nor would many
> seekers I've met over the years who were extremely devoted to their
> practice. The most I -- or they -- would ever say it that it's "the best
> practice for me...at this time."
> 
> I honestly don't see how saying more can be seen as anything *but*
> zealotry.
>


Turq, I think it helpful to see practitioners, devotees, and then fanatics in 
the spectrum of looking at it.  It makes sense when you see it.
-Buck, off to meditate in the Dome.  

[FairfieldLife] Zealotry (was: Re: An Alternative)

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "He who believes his practice is the best practice is a 
> > > > devotee. He who believes his practice is the only practice 
> > > > is a zealot."
> > > > 
> > > > Having expressed my disbelief to Buck that this quote is 
> > > > from Maharishi, or a verbatim quote if it is, I'll trip 
> > > > on it a bit.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not convinced that there is all that much difference 
> > > > between the definition of "devotee" given in this quote 
> > > > and the definition of "zealot." It kinda seems to me as 
> > > > if there is a schmear of zealotry in both descriptions.
> > > > 
> > > > I would never say that my practice is the best practice. 
> > > > Nor would many seekers I've met over the years who were 
> > > > extremely devoted to their practice. The most I -- or 
> > > > they -- would ever say it that it's "the best
> > > > practice for me...at this time."
> > > > 
> > > > I honestly don't see how saying more can be seen as anything 
> > > > *but* zealotry.
> > > 
> > > Turq, I think it helpful to see practitioners, devotees, 
> > > and then fanatics in the spectrum of looking at it.  It 
> > > makes sense when you see it.
> > > -Buck, off to meditate in the Dome.
> > 
> > Buck, with all due respect, what I'm saying is that
> > I don't think it makes sense, period. You're trotting
> > out the olde "If you were just as evolved as we were,
> > you'd 'see' correctly" argument. 
> > 
> > That's the very argument I'm arguing against. :-)
> > 
> > You -- or anyone -- as a "devotee" as defined in this
> > quote do *not* know for sure that your practice is 
> > the best.
> 
> Hmmm... I just don't seem to be able to decide, how
> "best" in this case (and many other cases) could
> be "definately" defined... :o
>

Well, in the local spectrum of sociology it practically runs from 
non-meditator, to meditator, devotee, and fanatic.  And both extremes have 
their bigots.  Anybody who has lived her long becomes sensitive and fluid with 
it and will modulate conversation and expression accordingly.  It is extremely 
interesting to watch in action.  It happens at any gathering or table you sit 
down at.  I was at a 50th wedding anniversary celebration for some friends in 
the long-tiime meditating community yesterday for a sitdown lunch at a local 
eatery.  It included the whole cross-section of the community, townie 
non-meditators clear through to real TM-TB'ers.  Mostly everyone is practiced 
and real polite in mixed company.  We're Iowans now too.  It works.
-Buck   

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Best Writing Cafe In The Universe

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Or at the very least, the best I've found in Leiden.
> 
> The building you see in the background is part of the Hortus Botanicus,
> an enormous greenhouse full of trees and plants you wouldn't necessarily
> find here in the Netherlands. Or in one place in many other locations on
> the planet. It's like stepping into the greenhouses in the film "Silent
> Running."
> 
> Just outside there is an outdoor cafe. With umbrellas for when it's
> sunny, and space heaters for when it's cold. It's surrounded by lush
> vegetation, with almost zero traffic noise. Interesting people both
> young and old go there, and are open to conversation, but almost more
> important, open to leaving you the fuck alone if you're sitting there
> reading or writing in your journal. They understand this.
> 
> The cafe serves Westmalle and a drinkable tequila.
> 
> Oh. And they have WiFi.
> 
> Writer Nirvana.
> 
>

Om, Northern latitude low angle sunlight.  Looks depressing. Drinking what?  
Coffee, tequila and vata tea at the same time?  Self-medication is frowned upon 
generally.  I worry for you for we'd be nothing without each other on this 
list.  Note, the changing sun transit to the time of year "they make suicide" 
in the North.
Be careful there Turq.
..Just went out cross-country training horses riding in glorious sun light and 
beautiful fall color change in Iowa.  It is peaking now for a while.  These are 
those weeks.  It is the time to be in the woods.  But abnormally warm, and dry. 
 ...Voice from the introduction to the Lord of the Rings, Director's cut:...  
"The World is Changing...".  Repent and come to meditation.
Have a nice day,
-Buck in the Dome   

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as they 
came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures and 
cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, sufferings, 
sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death itself—For some 
great good, dimly seen but dearly held.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> 
> We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching before 
> and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done in the soul.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a great, 
> > momentous struggle like this here, it is character that tells. I do not 
> > mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who may become 
> > surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change in the posture of affairs. 
> > What I mean by character is a firm seasoned substance of soul. I mean such 
> > qualities or acquirements as intelligence, thoughtfulness, 
> > conscientiousness, rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering and 
> > unconquerable resolve 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear 
> > > to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as such, and 
> > > looking at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged 
> > > to it all that they had and were This comprehension of the cause—this 
> > > intelligent devotion—this deliberate dedication of themselves to 
> > > duty—they suffered in testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make 
> > > these meditators worthy of honor today, and these lives equal to the 
> > > lauded deaths of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was worthy but 
> > > that they were worthy.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > They have given their best for something held dearer than joy—something 
> > > > of good beyond their personal experience; the giving of which, in this 
> > > > world's estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be justified by your 
> > > > understanding but only in your overpassing faith.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the 
> > > > > town whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our 
> > > > > own. Take strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the 
> > > > > closeness of old. The old is young to-day; and the young is passed. 
> > > > > Survivors of the fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to us, abide in 
> > > > > the glory where we saw them last,—take the grasp of hands, and look 
> > > > > into the eyes, without words! Who shall tell what is past and what 
> > > > > survives? For there are things born but lately in the years, which 
> > > > > belong to the eternities.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...They offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > > > > > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and 
> > > > > > looking at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly 
> > > > > > pledged to it all that they had and were When I think of what 
> > > > > > these men suffered and did...I marvel with a wonder which is 
> > > > > > admiration We have come here, friends, not for things that die, 
> > > > > > but for things that cannot die For human History is not a Dead 
> > > > > > Sea, it is a flowing river
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what 
> > > > > > could you justify
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

Theirs is a sublime amalgam of patriotism, duty, devotion, acceptance of 
self-sacrifice, and idealism—above all, idealism. They were of the least 
apathetic people in our Nation's history. Those who persisting to the finish, 
or to their deaths, out of a sense of idealism—devotion to ideals they cherish 
more than life itself, their devotion was a "Transcendence of Self." I bless 
and revere them -heroes to me forever.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as they 
> came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures and 
> cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, 
> sufferings, sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death 
> itself—For some great good, dimly seen but dearly held.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > 
> > We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching before 
> > and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done in the soul.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a great, 
> > > momentous struggle like this here, it is character that tells. I do not 
> > > mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who may become 
> > > surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change in the posture of affairs. 
> > > What I mean by character is a firm seasoned substance of soul. I mean 
> > > such qualities or acquirements as intelligence, thoughtfulness, 
> > > conscientiousness, rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering 
> > > and unconquerable resolve 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and 
> > > > dear to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as such, 
> > > > and looking at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly 
> > > > pledged to it all that they had and were This comprehension of the 
> > > > cause—this intelligent devotion—this deliberate dedication of 
> > > > themselves to duty—they suffered in testimony of their loyalty, faith 
> > > > and love, make these meditators worthy of honor today, and these lives 
> > > > equal to the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was 
> > > > worthy but that they were worthy.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > They have given their best for something held dearer than 
> > > > > joy—something of good beyond their personal experience; the giving of 
> > > > > which, in this world's estimation, is of such cost that it cannot be 
> > > > > justified by your understanding but only in your overpassing faith.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in the 
> > > > > > town whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning of our 
> > > > > > own. Take strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar from the 
> > > > > > closeness of old. The old is young to-day; and the young is passed. 
> > > > > > Survivors of the fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to us, abide in 
> > > > > > the glory where we saw them last,—take the grasp of hands, and look 
> > > > > > into the eyes, without words! Who shall tell what is past and what 
> > > > > > survives? For there are things born but lately in the years, which 
> > > > > > belong to the eternities.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...They offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and dear to 
> > > > > > > humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and 
> > > > > > > looking at it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly 
> > > > > > > pledged to it all that they had and were When I think of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

May all their gallant souls in the end rest in peace, and be honored and 
glorified, to the last pulse of existence!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Theirs is a sublime amalgam of patriotism, duty, devotion, acceptance of 
> self-sacrifice, and idealism—above all, idealism. They were of the least 
> apathetic people in our Nation's history. Those who persisting to the finish, 
> or to their deaths, out of a sense of idealism—devotion to ideals they 
> cherish more than life itself, their devotion was a "Transcendence of Self." 
> I bless and revere them -heroes to me forever.  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as 
> > they came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures and 
> > cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, 
> > sufferings, sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death 
> > itself—For some great good, dimly seen but dearly held.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching 
> > > before and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done in 
> > > the soul.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > > > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a great, 
> > > > momentous struggle like this here, it is character that tells. I do not 
> > > > mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who may become 
> > > > surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change in the posture of affairs. 
> > > > What I mean by character is a firm seasoned substance of soul. I mean 
> > > > such qualities or acquirements as intelligence, thoughtfulness, 
> > > > conscientiousness, rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering 
> > > > and unconquerable resolve 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and 
> > > > > dear to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as 
> > > > > such, and looking at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, 
> > > > > solemnly pledged to it all that they had and were This 
> > > > > comprehension of the cause—this intelligent devotion—this deliberate 
> > > > > dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in testimony of their 
> > > > > loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators worthy of honor today, 
> > > > > and these lives equal to the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not merely 
> > > > > that the cause was worthy but that they were worthy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have given their best for something held dearer than 
> > > > > > joy—something of good beyond their personal experience; the giving 
> > > > > > of which, in this world's estimation, is of such cost that it 
> > > > > > cannot be justified by your understanding but only in your 
> > > > > > overpassing faith.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sit down again together, Meditators! all that are left of us—in 
> > > > > > > the town whose name we bore, into which we have put new meaning 
> > > > > > > of our own. Take strength from one more touch, ere we pass afar 
> > > > > > > from the closeness of old. The old is young to-day; and the young 
> > > > > > > is passed. Survivors of the fittest,—for the fittest, it seems to 
> > > > > > > us, abide in the glory where we saw them last,—take the grasp of 
> > > > > > > hands, and look into the eyes, without words! Who shall tell what 
> > > > > > > is past and what survives? For there are things born but lately 
> > > > > > > in the years, which belo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

Those who will may raise monuments of marble to perpetuate the fame of heroes. 
Those who will may build memorial halls to remind those who shall gather there 
in after times what manhood could do and dare for right, and what high examples 
of virtue and valor have gone before them. But let us make our offering to the 
ever-living soul. Let us build our benefactions in the ever-growing heart, that 
they shall live and rise and spread in blessing beyond our sight, beyond the 
ken of man and beyond the touch of time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> 
> May all their gallant souls rest in the end in peace, and be honored and 
> glorified, to the last pulse of existence!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Theirs is a sublime amalgam of patriotism, duty, devotion, acceptance of 
> > self-sacrifice, and idealism—above all, idealism. They were of the least 
> > apathetic people in our Nation's history. Those who persisting to the 
> > finish, or to their deaths, out of a sense of idealism—devotion to ideals 
> > they cherish more than life itself, their devotion was a "Transcendence of 
> > Self." I bless and revere them -heroes to me forever.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as 
> > > they came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures 
> > > and cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, 
> > > sufferings, sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death 
> > > itself—For some great good, dimly seen but dearly held.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching 
> > > > before and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done 
> > > > in the soul.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > > > > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a 
> > > > > great, momentous struggle like this here, it is character that tells. 
> > > > > I do not mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who 
> > > > > may become surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change in the 
> > > > > posture of affairs. What I mean by character is a firm seasoned 
> > > > > substance of soul. I mean such qualities or acquirements as 
> > > > > intelligence, thoughtfulness, conscientiousness, rightmindedness, 
> > > > > patience, fortitude, long-suffering and unconquerable resolve 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > > > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and 
> > > > > > dear to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as 
> > > > > > such, and looking at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, 
> > > > > > solemnly pledged to it all that they had and were This 
> > > > > > comprehension of the cause—this intelligent devotion—this 
> > > > > > deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in 
> > > > > > testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators 
> > > > > > worthy of honor today, and these lives equal to the lauded deaths 
> > > > > > of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was worthy but that they were 
> > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have given their best for something held dearer than 
> > > > > > > joy—something of good beyond their personal experience; the 
> > > > > > > giving of which, in this world's estimation, is of such cost that 
> > > > > > > it cannot be justified by your understanding but only in your 
> > > > > > > overpassing faith.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

Those who will may raise monuments of marble to perpetuate the fame of heroes. 
Those who will may build memorial halls to remind those who shall gather there 
in after times what manhood could do and dare for right, and what high examples 
of virtue and valor have gone before them. But let us make our offering to the 
ever-living soul. Let us build our benefactions in the ever-growing heart, that 
they shall live and rise and spread in blessing beyond our sight, beyond the 
ken of man and beyond the touch of time.
> 
> May all their gallant souls in the end rest in peace, and be honored and 
> glorified, to the last pulse of existence!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Theirs is a sublime amalgam of patriotism, duty, devotion, acceptance of 
> > self-sacrifice, and idealism—above all, idealism. They were of the least 
> > apathetic people in our Nation's history. Those who persisting to the 
> > finish, or to their deaths, out of a sense of idealism—devotion to ideals 
> > they cherish more than life itself, their devotion was a "Transcendence of 
> > Self." I bless and revere them -heroes to me forever.  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as 
> > > they came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures 
> > > and cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, 
> > > sufferings, sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death 
> > > itself—For some great good, dimly seen but dearly held.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching 
> > > > before and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done 
> > > > in the soul.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > > > > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a 
> > > > > great, momentous struggle like this here, it is character that tells. 
> > > > > I do not mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has that, who 
> > > > > may become surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change in the 
> > > > > posture of affairs. What I mean by character is a firm seasoned 
> > > > > substance of soul. I mean such qualities or acquirements as 
> > > > > intelligence, thoughtfulness, conscientiousness, rightmindedness, 
> > > > > patience, fortitude, long-suffering and unconquerable resolve 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > > > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital and 
> > > > > > dear to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended as 
> > > > > > such, and looking at it, in all its bearings and its consequences, 
> > > > > > solemnly pledged to it all that they had and were This 
> > > > > > comprehension of the cause—this intelligent devotion—this 
> > > > > > deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they suffered in 
> > > > > > testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make these meditators 
> > > > > > worthy of honor today, and these lives equal to the lauded deaths 
> > > > > > of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was worthy but that they were 
> > > > > > worthy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have given their best for something held dearer than 
> > > > > > > joy—something of good beyond their personal experience; the 
> > > > > > > giving of which, in this world's estimation, is of such cost that 
> > > > > > > it cannot be justified by your understanding but only in your 
> > > > > > > overpassing faith.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

[Buck]

The inspiration of a noble cause involving human interests wide and far, 
enables men to do things they did not dream themselves capable of before, and 
which they were not capable of alone. The consciousness of belonging, vitally, 
to something beyond individuality; of being part of a personality that reaches 
we know not where, in space and time, greatens the heart to the limit of the 
soul's ideal, and builds out the supreme of character.

> 
> Those who will may raise monuments of marble to perpetuate the fame of 
> heroes. Those who will may build memorial halls to remind those who shall 
> gather there in after times what manhood could do and dare for right, and 
> what high examples of virtue and valor have gone before them. But let us make 
> our offering to the ever-living soul. Let us build our benefactions in the 
> ever-growing heart, that they shall live and rise and spread in blessing 
> beyond our sight, beyond the ken of man and beyond the touch of time.
> > 
> > May all their gallant souls rest in the end in peace, and be honored and 
> > glorified, to the last pulse of existence!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Theirs is a sublime amalgam of patriotism, duty, devotion, acceptance of 
> > > self-sacrifice, and idealism—above all, idealism. They were of the least 
> > > apathetic people in our Nation's history. Those who persisting to the 
> > > finish, or to their deaths, out of a sense of idealism—devotion to ideals 
> > > they cherish more than life itself, their devotion was a "Transcendence 
> > > of Self." I bless and revere them -heroes to me forever.  
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heroism is latent in every human soul However humble or unknown, as 
> > > > they came to Fairfield they have renounced what are accounted pleasures 
> > > > and cheerfully undertaken all self-denials; privations, toils, dangers, 
> > > > sufferings, sicknesses, mutilations, life-long hurts and losses, death 
> > > > itself—For some great good, dimly seen but dearly held.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > We do not live for self We are a part of a larger life, reaching 
> > > > > before and after, judged not by deeds done in the body but deeds done 
> > > > > in the soul.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A lesson impressed on me as I have stood here and my heart and mind 
> > > > > > traverse the faces, and the years that are gone by, is that in a 
> > > > > > great, momentous struggle like this here, it is character that 
> > > > > > tells. I do not mean simply nor chiefly bravery. Many a person has 
> > > > > > that, who may become surprised or disconcerted at a sudden change 
> > > > > > in the posture of affairs. What I mean by character is a firm 
> > > > > > seasoned substance of soul. I mean such qualities or acquirements 
> > > > > > as intelligence, thoughtfulness, conscientiousness, 
> > > > > > rightmindedness, patience, fortitude, long-suffering and 
> > > > > > unconquerable resolve 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is not that these meditators have lived, but that they have so 
> > > > > > > lived...that they offered themselves willingly in a cause vital 
> > > > > > > and dear to humanity; and what is more, a cause they comprehended 
> > > > > > > as such, and looking at it, in all its bearings and its 
> > > > > > > consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that they had and 
> > > > > > > were This comprehension of the cause—this intelligent 
> > > > > > > devotion—this deliberate dedication of themselves to duty—they 
> > > > > > > suffered in testimony of their loyalty, faith and love, make 
> > > > > > > these meditators worthy of honor today, and these lives equal to 
> > > > > > > the lauded deaths of martyrs. Not merely that the cause was 
> > > > > > > worthy but that they were worthy.
> > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] The Spiritual Community

[Buck]

"All the members were equal, and each had a job that help to support the 
community as a whole.  The Oneida Perfectionists had a very different vision of 
utopian life than the Shakers and the Puritans, and yet their communities did 
share structural and ideological similarities. First, it believed that its 
members had entered into a special covenant with God. Secondly, this covenant 
required them to provide an example of righteous living for the rest of the 
world to observe. Third, that in this community the individual was to be 
sublimated to the community as a whole. Fourth, that in order to provide this 
example, the community must necessarily separate itself form the society at 
large and carve out a new place for themselves. Fifth, it revolved around the 
leadership of an authoritarian figure who prescribed a very specific sets of 
rules for its members to follow. Finally, John Humphrey Noyes and the Oneida 
Perfectionists were responding, not just to the call of the West and the 
promise it held out, as Turner might have us believe, but just as Winthrop and 
the Puritans, to changing social conditions that undermined their understanding 
of themselves and their place in their society."

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Community

[Buck]

American Ashrams:

The Amana Colonies were one of many utopian colonies established on American 
soil during the 18th and 19th centuries. There were hundreds of communal 
utopian experiments in the early United States, and the Shakers alone founded 
around 20 settlements. While great differences existed between the various 
utopian communities or colonies, each society shared a common bond in a vision 
of communal living in a utopian society. 
>
> "All the members were equal, and each had a job that help to support the 
> community as a whole.  The Oneida Perfectionists had a very different vision 
> of utopian life than the Shakers and the Puritans, and yet their communities 
> did share structural and ideological similarities. First, it believed that 
> its members had entered into a special covenant with God. Secondly, this 
> covenant required them to provide an example of righteous living for the rest 
> of the world to observe. Third, that in this community the individual was to 
> be sublimated to the community as a whole. Fourth, that in order to provide 
> this example, the community must necessarily separate itself form the society 
> at large and carve out a new place for themselves. Fifth, it revolved around 
> the leadership of an authoritarian figure who prescribed a very specific sets 
> of rules for its members to follow. Finally, John Humphrey Noyes and the 
> Oneida Perfectionists were responding, not just to the call of the West and 
> the promise it held out, as Turner might have us believe, but just as 
> Winthrop and the Puritans, to changing social conditions that undermined 
> their understanding of themselves and their place in their society."
>

[FairfieldLife] Traveling Out.

[Buck]

I just left FF for a few days and got
99 channels on a TV right here and there's nothing worthwhile to watch.
I been driving for two days to a conference outside of Syracuse, NY
and stopped for the nite to rest.  No wonder that the world
is gone to hell in a field effect with such Bawdy awful violent tripe that 
people watch.  So, this is the stuff that gets reviewed by some posters here as 
if it's culturally significant?  Even the weather channel sells with violent 
image.  
There was one show about an Amish couple going in to NYC. 
Now I can relate to that one being an elder conservative meditator now myself 
traveling abroad except that the show really was exploiting selling advertising 
crudely making fun of the Amish.  Damned money-changers.  Forgive them all
they know not what they are doing.
What a waste of money cable is.
Save your self and your money
don't let cable in your home and life.
-Buck on the road

[FairfieldLife] Last of the Mohicans and Hill Cumorah

[Buck]

Touring this in the 'morrow,
Western New York State,


http://www.nps.gov/fost/historyculture/the-western-expedition-against-the-six-nations-1779.htm

And this in the same area on Weds.
Mormon Historical Sites:
Hill Cumorah- the site where Joseph Smith excavated the golden plates 
containing the Book of 
Mormon.
Joseph Smith Farm- contains a log cabin and frame home where Smith and his 
family lived 
from 1818 onwards.
Sacred Grove- the site where Joseph Smith received his first revelation from 
God and Jesus 
Christ in 1820.
E. B. Grandin Print Shop- where the Book of Mormon was printed in 1830.
Fourierist Site:
Skaneateles Phalanx Building- one of the few extant structures used as a 
phalanstery during the 
peak period of Fourierist communities in the late 1840s.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between charisma and narcissism

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I'm posting this because, as I suggested in my last post, I enjoy
> talking more about ideas than people. And I've noticed that many people
> on this forum -- supposedly composed of seasoned spiritual seekers with
> 30 to 40 years of seeking under their belts -- don't really understand
> how to recognize true charisma when they see it, and instead are taken
> in by the allure of simple narcissism.
>


This is not new.  Narcissistic personality disordered (NPD) possibly touched 
with schizophrenia and then spiritualized charisma differently. The 
communal stories of Icaria as a utopian communal group and Zion City too are 
interesting examples of groups once formed then kicking their founders out as 
evident nuts and the groups continuing for decades beyond their ejected 
founders based on their own more strong founding experience.  Joseph Smith is 
another example that comes to mind of the NPD schizophrenic in history 
different from an evident profound charismatic leader of people like George 
Washington or then spiritualized leaders like a Mother Anne of the Shakers or 
founding Elders of the Amana Society or George Fox with the Society of Friends, 
or Mary Baker Eddy with Christian Science, folks with real spiritual chops.
-Buck  

   
> There IS a certain appeal to the narcissist, which can be easily
> mistaken for charisma. In a world of people who aren't really quite sure
> of things, the person who comes across as *completely* sure of
> themselves is a rarity. They mistake the solipsism of narcissism for
> "seeing" or spiritual evolution or some sort of advanced state of
> consciousness.
> 
> In my experience, it rarely is. And there is a simple way to tell the
> difference between "narcissistic confidence" and real charisma. The
> former requires constant feedback; the latter does not.
> 
> The narcissist is trolling for attention. He or she CARES -- and CARES
> deeply -- whether other people agree with his or her pronouncements. The
> narcissist often declares that others "owe" him or her a reply or an
> "answer" to their pronouncements. They fly into rages when the other
> person suggests that they are owed nothing, and then often go on long
> vendettas against them to "get" them for not giving him or her the
> attention they were trolling for.
> 
> *Let alone* the greater sin of not bowing reverently in the direction of
> the narcissist and saying, "Wow. You got me. You are just SO RIGHT in
> what you say. Mea culpa. How could I have been so misguided as to not
> see myself (or the thing or concept the narcissist is making
> pronouncements about) the way you do? Please forgive me, and tell me
> more about how I can become as all-wise and all-knowing as you are."
> 
> You'll have to forgive me if I perceive the above routine as what it is
> -- abuse. But it would seem that some people actually *need* to be
> abused to feel that they are making some kind of "spiritual progress."
> They line up in droves to see "teachers" who make pronouncements to
> them, so that they can nod their heads like bobble-head dolls and say --
> in unison, as if it were some kind of Vedic chant -- "You are SO RIGHT.
> How could I ever have been so mistaken as to see things differently?"
> 
> True charisma is in my experience a quiet thing, one that is content in
> its quietness. It doesn't seek attention, or seek followers. It may, in
> fact, go out of its way to discourage followers. It may make statements
> from time to time about the way that the truly charismatic individual
> sees things, but those statements are rarely couched in the language of
> "This is THE WAY that this thing/concept/person 'should' be seen." More
> of a humble, "This is the way I see things. As for how you 'should' see
> them...you're on your own...good night."
> 
> The hangers-on who glom onto narcissists rarely appreciate the truly
> charismatic, because they don't give *them* the narcissistic feedback
> they're looking for. The charismatic don't tend to gather those people
> who agree with them into cliques or cults. They just continue on their
> Way, valuing neither the people who agree with their statements highly,
> nor the people who disagree with them. All of them are *entitled* to
> their own view, and welcome to it, think the truly charismatic.
> 
> The narcissists, on the other hand, very much DO NOT believe that others
> are entitled to their own view. They argue incessantly against any view
> that contradicts theirs, and even any view that only partially agrees
> with it. In the mind of the narcissist,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between charisma and narcissism

[Buck]

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > I'm posting this because, as I suggested in my last post, I enjoy
> > talking more about ideas than people. And I've noticed that many people
> > on this forum -- supposedly composed of seasoned spiritual seekers with
> > 30 to 40 years of seeking under their belts -- don't really understand
> > how to recognize true charisma when they see it, and instead are taken
> > in by the allure of simple narcissism.
> >
> 
> 
> This is not new.  Narcissistic personality disordered (NPD) possibly touched 
> with schizophrenia and then spiritualized charisma differently. The 
> communal stories of Icaria as a utopian communal group and Zion City too are 
> interesting examples of groups once formed then kicking their founders out as 
> evident nuts and the groups continuing for decades beyond their ejected 
> founders based on their own more strong founding experience.  Joseph Smith is 
> another example that comes to mind of the NPD schizophrenic in history 
> different from an evident profound charismatic leader of people like George 
> Washington or then spiritualized leaders like a Mother Anne of the Shakers or 
> founding Elders of the Amana Society or George Fox with the Society of 
> Friends, or Mary Baker Eddy with Christian Science, folks with real spiritual 
> chops.
> -Buck  
>

Icarians seeing their way through evicting their leader... 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/naf3o4n_L6k
 
>
> > There IS a certain appeal to the narcissist, which can be easily
> > mistaken for charisma. In a world of people who aren't really quite sure
> > of things, the person who comes across as *completely* sure of
> > themselves is a rarity. They mistake the solipsism of narcissism for
> > "seeing" or spiritual evolution or some sort of advanced state of
> > consciousness.
> > 
> > In my experience, it rarely is. And there is a simple way to tell the
> > difference between "narcissistic confidence" and real charisma. The
> > former requires constant feedback; the latter does not.
> > 
> > The narcissist is trolling for attention. He or she CARES -- and CARES
> > deeply -- whether other people agree with his or her pronouncements. The
> > narcissist often declares that others "owe" him or her a reply or an
> > "answer" to their pronouncements. They fly into rages when the other
> > person suggests that they are owed nothing, and then often go on long
> > vendettas against them to "get" them for not giving him or her the
> > attention they were trolling for.
> > 
> > *Let alone* the greater sin of not bowing reverently in the direction of
> > the narcissist and saying, "Wow. You got me. You are just SO RIGHT in
> > what you say. Mea culpa. How could I have been so misguided as to not
> > see myself (or the thing or concept the narcissist is making
> > pronouncements about) the way you do? Please forgive me, and tell me
> > more about how I can become as all-wise and all-knowing as you are."
> > 
> > You'll have to forgive me if I perceive the above routine as what it is
> > -- abuse. But it would seem that some people actually *need* to be
> > abused to feel that they are making some kind of "spiritual progress."
> > They line up in droves to see "teachers" who make pronouncements to
> > them, so that they can nod their heads like bobble-head dolls and say --
> > in unison, as if it were some kind of Vedic chant -- "You are SO RIGHT.
> > How could I ever have been so mistaken as to see things differently?"
> > 
> > True charisma is in my experience a quiet thing, one that is content in
> > its quietness. It doesn't seek attention, or seek followers. It may, in
> > fact, go out of its way to discourage followers. It may make statements
> > from time to time about the way that the truly charismatic individual
> > sees things, but those statements are rarely couched in the language of
> > "This is THE WAY that this thing/concept/person 'should' be seen." More
> > of a humble, "This is the way I see things. As for how you 'should' see
> > them...you're on your own...good night."
> > 
> > The hangers-on who glom onto narcissists rarely appreciate the truly
> > charismatic, because they don't give *them* the narcissistic feedback
> > they're looking for. The charismatic don't tend to gather those people
> > who agree with them into cliques or c

[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between charisma and narcissism

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm posting this because, as I suggested in my last post, I enjoy
> > > talking more about ideas than people. And I've noticed that many people
> > > on this forum -- supposedly composed of seasoned spiritual seekers with
> > > 30 to 40 years of seeking under their belts -- don't really understand
> > > how to recognize true charisma when they see it, and instead are taken
> > > in by the allure of simple narcissism.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > This is not new.  Narcissistic personality disordered (NPD) possibly 
> > touched with schizophrenia and then spiritualized charisma differently. 
> > The communal stories of Icaria as a utopian communal group and Zion City 
> > too are interesting examples of groups once formed then kicking their 
> > founders out as evident nuts and the groups continuing for decades beyond 
> > their ejected founders based on their own more strong founding experience.  
> > Joseph Smith is another example that comes to mind of the NPD schizophrenic 
> > in history different from an evident profound charismatic leader of people 
> > like George Washington or then spiritualized leaders like a Mother Anne of 
> > the Shakers or founding Elders of the Amana Society or George Fox with the 
> > Society of Friends, or Mary Baker Eddy with Christian Science, folks with 
> > real spiritual chops.
> > -Buck  
> >
> 
> Icarians seeing their way through evicting their leader... 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/naf3o4n_L6k
>  
> >

Zion City seeing their way through the personality of two leaders..
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/xb1LciUvLiU

> > > There IS a certain appeal to the narcissist, which can be easily
> > > mistaken for charisma. In a world of people who aren't really quite sure
> > > of things, the person who comes across as *completely* sure of
> > > themselves is a rarity. They mistake the solipsism of narcissism for
> > > "seeing" or spiritual evolution or some sort of advanced state of
> > > consciousness.
> > > 
> > > In my experience, it rarely is. And there is a simple way to tell the
> > > difference between "narcissistic confidence" and real charisma. The
> > > former requires constant feedback; the latter does not.
> > > 
> > > The narcissist is trolling for attention. He or she CARES -- and CARES
> > > deeply -- whether other people agree with his or her pronouncements. The
> > > narcissist often declares that others "owe" him or her a reply or an
> > > "answer" to their pronouncements. They fly into rages when the other
> > > person suggests that they are owed nothing, and then often go on long
> > > vendettas against them to "get" them for not giving him or her the
> > > attention they were trolling for.
> > > 
> > > *Let alone* the greater sin of not bowing reverently in the direction of
> > > the narcissist and saying, "Wow. You got me. You are just SO RIGHT in
> > > what you say. Mea culpa. How could I have been so misguided as to not
> > > see myself (or the thing or concept the narcissist is making
> > > pronouncements about) the way you do? Please forgive me, and tell me
> > > more about how I can become as all-wise and all-knowing as you are."
> > > 
> > > You'll have to forgive me if I perceive the above routine as what it is
> > > -- abuse. But it would seem that some people actually *need* to be
> > > abused to feel that they are making some kind of "spiritual progress."
> > > They line up in droves to see "teachers" who make pronouncements to
> > > them, so that they can nod their heads like bobble-head dolls and say --
> > > in unison, as if it were some kind of Vedic chant -- "You are SO RIGHT.
> > > How could I ever have been so mistaken as to see things differently?"
> > > 
> > > True charisma is in my experience a quiet thing, one that is content in
> > > its quietness. It doesn't seek attention, or seek followers. It may, in
> > > fact, go out of its way to discourage followers. It may make statements
> > > from time to time about the way that the truly charismatic individual
> > > sees things, but those statements are rarely couched i

[FairfieldLife] Prospects for the Future

[Buck]

Well, I just walked in and out and got a seven dollar 'all you can eat' buffet 
meal at a gambling casino and race-track down the street from where I am 
staying while on the road in upstate New York.  What a dull low-consciousness 
place.  Though also by observation I notice and it does not take no subtle 
perception neither that Iowans are not the only fat people in America.

 In a few short weeks, America will decide its future. We all deeply desire the 
most life-supporting evolutionary direction for our nation and America's 
fortune ultimately depends on the collective consciousness of its people. Come 
Be in meditation for the good of everything and everyone. 
Kindly,
-Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prospects for the Future

[Buck]

Right now I am away from Fairfield while attending this communities academic 
conference and while I am away from the Dome I'd personally appreciate it if 
some lurker here who is not usually dedicated to going to the Dome meditation 
would take up my place while I am gone for a while from the group.  The science 
says it should matter.
-Buck

http://www.communalstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/SCHEDULE-2012-Conference-September-UPDATE-3.pdf
   


>
> Well, I just walked in and out and got a seven dollar 'all you can eat' 
> buffet meal at a gambling casino and race-track down the street from where I 
> am staying while on the road in upstate New York.  What a dull 
> low-consciousness place.  Though also by observation I notice and it does not 
> take no subtle perception neither that Iowans are not the only fat people in 
> America.
> 
>  In a few short weeks, America will decide its future. We all deeply desire 
> the most life-supporting evolutionary direction for our nation and America's 
> fortune ultimately depends on the collective consciousness of its people. 
> Come Be in meditation for the good of everything and everyone. 
> Kindly,
> -Buck
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between charisma and narcissism

[Buck]

Narcissism disordered(NPD) different from spiritual charisma and then possibly 
different again from authoritarian administrative petty- tyrants or obsessive 
rigid personality seems to distinguish different spiritual groups at different 
times.  For instance, examples of the later (rigid or obsessive) personality 
administrating spiritual groups at:   "Tyranny in Administration, Shaker Elder 
Philemon Stewart" 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/PXOdRY1SlUY
 
It is something to be aware of in looking at groups.  And also, that groups can 
protect themselves by being aware of the possibilities and then evaluating 
performance for this.
-Buck


> 
> 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm posting this because, as I suggested in my last post, I enjoy
> > > > talking more about ideas than people. And I've noticed that many people
> > > > on this forum -- supposedly composed of seasoned spiritual seekers with
> > > > 30 to 40 years of seeking under their belts -- don't really understand
> > > > how to recognize true charisma when they see it, and instead are taken
> > > > in by the allure of simple narcissism.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This is not new.  Narcissistic personality disordered (NPD) possibly 
> > > touched with schizophrenia and then spiritualized charisma differently.   
> > >   The communal stories of Icaria as a utopian communal group and Zion 
> > > City too are interesting examples of groups once formed then kicking 
> > > their founders out as evident nuts and the groups continuing for decades 
> > > beyond their ejected founders based on their own more strong founding 
> > > experience.  Joseph Smith is another example that comes to mind of the 
> > > NPD schizophrenic in history different from an evident profound 
> > > charismatic leader of people like George Washington or then spiritualized 
> > > leaders like a Mother Anne of the Shakers or founding Elders of the Amana 
> > > Society or George Fox with the Society of Friends, or Mary Baker Eddy 
> > > with Christian Science, folks with real spiritual chops.
> > > -Buck  
> > >
> > 
> > Icarians seeing their way through evicting their leader... 
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/naf3o4n_L6k
> >  
> > >
> 
> Zion City seeing their way through the personality of two leaders..
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/communal-studies-forum/xb1LciUvLiU
> 
> > > > There IS a certain appeal to the narcissist, which can be easily
> > > > mistaken for charisma. In a world of people who aren't really quite sure
> > > > of things, the person who comes across as *completely* sure of
> > > > themselves is a rarity. They mistake the solipsism of narcissism for
> > > > "seeing" or spiritual evolution or some sort of advanced state of
> > > > consciousness.
> > > > 
> > > > In my experience, it rarely is. And there is a simple way to tell the
> > > > difference between "narcissistic confidence" and real charisma. The
> > > > former requires constant feedback; the latter does not.
> > > > 
> > > > The narcissist is trolling for attention. He or she CARES -- and CARES
> > > > deeply -- whether other people agree with his or her pronouncements. The
> > > > narcissist often declares that others "owe" him or her a reply or an
> > > > "answer" to their pronouncements. They fly into rages when the other
> > > > person suggests that they are owed nothing, and then often go on long
> > > > vendettas against them to "get" them for not giving him or her the
> > > > attention they were trolling for.
> > > > 
> > > > *Let alone* the greater sin of not bowing reverently in the direction of
> > > > the narcissist and saying, "Wow. You got me. You are just SO RIGHT in
> > > > what you say. Mea culpa. How could I have been so misguided as to not
> > > > see myself (or the thing or concept the narcissist is making
> > > > pronouncements about) the way you do? Please forgive me, and tell me
> > > > more about how I can become as all-wise and all-knowing as you are."
> > > > 
> > > > You'll have to forgive me if I perceive the above routine as wha

[FairfieldLife] Early 'civil union' Marriage.

[Buck]

Skaneateles, 1843.

   No clergyman or magistrate would perform any weddings.  A man and a woman 
would simply announce that they considered themselves married, and they 
generally remained true to the marriage, separating only when love ceased.  
There were no cases of adultery or fornication at the community. A man and a 
woman just told everyone that they were in love and considered themselves 
married, and that was all there was to it.   
Did this decree upset the locals!

The utopian Skaneateles Community in 1843 acquired and successfully operated a 
large farm and developed small industries, but ultimately failed because of 
internal difficulties, as well as external concern about its unorthodox social 
practices. Locally it was sometimes called "No God," because of the atheistic 
views of members. The Skaneateles Community published a newspaper, the 
"Comunitist" [sic] between 1844 and 1846, when the community dissolved. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skaneateles,_New_York

Was there today visiting the old community.
-Buck

[FairfieldLife] The Golden Plates

[Buck]

I was on Hill Cumorah earlier today looking for the gold plates but there 
weren't none I found.
-Buck


In A.D. 421 Moroni, the last survivor of a great civilization that had 
inhabited the Americas since about 600 B.C., buried in this hill a set of 
golden plates on which was recorded the history of his people.  In 1827 Mroni 
returned to this hill as an angel and delivered the plates to Joseph Smith, who 
translated and published them as the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus 
Christ.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recommendations of the new TM.org campaign

[Buck]

Iranitea,

Is interesting that SS Ravi Shankar with Art of Living is not on the TM enemies 
list too.
The enmity of TMTB's usually is hot and extreme on the subject of SSRS as it is 
on Chopra for desertion of Maharishi and the TM movement.  Though, in gross 
numbers both SSRaviShankar and Chopra are proly way more successful in the 
market place than TM has been in the last couple decades yet TM would be even 
far behind compared to Buddhistic meditations.
Me, I'm all for meditation everywhere and more groups meditating.
-Buck 
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> Having some extra time at my hand yesterday, I googled all the logos in
> the upper right corner of the creative brief of the new TM.org campaign:
> These are stated as competitors to which the TM.org <http://TM.org>  
> wants to be compared
> 
> 1. http://www.chopra.com/ <http://www.chopra.com/>Chopra
> 
> 2. http://www.expandinglight.org/ <http://www.expandinglight.org/>  
> Ananda, Kriya Yoga
> 
> 3. http://www.kwanumzen.org/ <http://www.kwanumzen.org/>   Zen
> 
> 4. http://www.mindfulnessmeditationnyc.com/
> <http://www.mindfulnessmeditationnyc.com/>   Mindfulness
> 
> 5. http://www.nyimc.org/ <http://www.nyimc.org/>   Mindfulness
> 6. http://www.plumvillage.org/ <http://www.plumvillage.org/>  
> Mindfulness
> 7. http://www.wildmind.org/ <http://www.wildmind.org/>   Mindfulness
> 8. http://www.shambhalasun.com/ <http://www.shambhalasun.com/>  
> Buddhist Magazine, Zen, Mindfulness, Tibetan,
> 9. http://ny.shambhala.org/ <http://ny.shambhala.org/>   Tibetan
> 
>10. http://www.samtalspartner.se/nlpeg.html
> <http://www.samtalspartner.se/nlpeng.html>   Zen, NLP
> 
> In case you ever search for an image on the web (you have a given image,
> a logo) use this: http://www.tineye.com/ <http://www.tineye.com/>
> 
> You can see, that TM targets as its main competitors Buddhist
> meditations (8), and among those primarily Mindfulness (4,5). Only two
> are Hindu based.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recommendations of the new TM.org campaign

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Iranitea,
> 
> Is interesting that SS Ravi Shankar with Art of Living is not on the TM 
> enemies list too.
> The enmity of TMTB's usually is hot and extreme on the subject of SSRS as it 
> is on Chopra for desertion of Maharishi and the TM movement.  Though, in 
> gross numbers both SSRaviShankar and Chopra are proly way more successful in 
> the market place than TM has been in the last couple decades yet TM would be 
> even far behind compared to Buddhistic meditations.
> Me, I'm all for meditation everywhere and more groups meditating.
> -Buck 
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
> >
> > Having some extra time at my hand yesterday, I googled all the logos in
> > the upper right corner of the creative brief of the new TM.org campaign:
> > These are stated as competitors to which the TM.org <http://TM.org>  
> > wants to be compared
> > 
> > 1. http://www.chopra.com/ <http://www.chopra.com/>Chopra
> > 
> > 2. http://www.expandinglight.org/ <http://www.expandinglight.org/>  
> > Ananda, Kriya Yoga
> > 
> > 3. http://www.kwanumzen.org/ <http://www.kwanumzen.org/>   Zen
> > 
> > 4. http://www.mindfulnessmeditationnyc.com/
> > <http://www.mindfulnessmeditationnyc.com/>   Mindfulness
> > 
> > 5. http://www.nyimc.org/ <http://www.nyimc.org/>   Mindfulness
> > 6. http://www.plumvillage.org/ <http://www.plumvillage.org/>  
> > Mindfulness
> > 7. http://www.wildmind.org/ <http://www.wildmind.org/>   Mindfulness
> > 8. http://www.shambhalasun.com/ <http://www.shambhalasun.com/>  
> > Buddhist Magazine, Zen, Mindfulness, Tibetan,
> > 9. http://ny.shambhala.org/ <http://ny.shambhala.org/>   Tibetan
> > 
> >10. http://www.samtalspartner.se/nlpeg.html
> > <http://www.samtalspartner.se/nlpeng.html>   Zen, NLP
> > 
> > In case you ever search for an image on the web (you have a given image,
> > a logo) use this: http://www.tineye.com/ <http://www.tineye.com/>
> > 
> > You can see, that TM targets as its main competitors Buddhist
> > meditations (8), and among those primarily Mindfulness (4,5). Only two
> > are Hindu based.
> >
>

Though it proly would not work for TM to broadside SSRavi Shankar as his 
meditation is so like TM; evidently is also 'effortless' though he uses 
different mantras.  Can't pick the same fight over 'effortlessness' that way as 
with the Buddhists so evidently AOL for as large as it is, is strategically 
ignored.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recommendations of the new TM.org campaign

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> [...]
> > Though it proly would not work for TM to broadside SSRavi Shankar as his 
> > meditation is so like TM; evidently is also 'effortless' though he uses 
> > different mantras.  Can't pick the same fight over 'effortlessness' that 
> > way as with the Buddhists so evidently AOL for as large as it is, is 
> > strategically ignored.
> >
> 
> From what I hear, SSRS has decided that people should not bother returning to 
> the mantra if they find themselves in pure consciousness. That is an 
> important distinction, if correct, and to me, it misses the point of TM:
>

Well, 'pure consciousness' is one of those correct experiences of meditation 
listed in the TM second nite lecture.  Sitting activated by transcending in 
Brahman could be that too.  Though yours is an interesting explanation about 
how some TM'ers can look so spiritually anemic after decades of their mental 
practice interrupting their silence coming back to the mantra. Possbly explains 
why folks may have withered away from meditating for lack of cultivated 
experience.  It is an interesting distinction in the sublimity of meditation 
practice.  Of course, constantly coming back to a mantra dovetails for someone 
disposed with an active mind as in, 'keep on keeping on'. It gives them 
something to do.  It seems some have done that for decades based on 
instruction.  You make a really interesting distinction.
 
> if you can notice you are not thinking the mantra, you are no longer in PC 
> anyway, so there's no point in "enjoying it," as you aren't really there. 
> You're just fooling yourself.
>

Om,and who is fooling who with that description?
 
> 
> BTW, I know that people like to think that SSRS has taught many millions to 
> meditate, but in fact, the group meditation that he led a few years ago, as 
> far as I can tell, was just a "do your own thing." It wasn't that many people 
> practicing what his organization teaches. ANd the primary focus of the AOL is 
> breathing exercise, not meditation, as I understand it.
> 
> 
> L.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Recommendations of the new TM.org campaign

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Though it proly would not work for TM to broadside SSRavi Shankar as his 
> > > meditation is so like TM; evidently is also 'effortless' though he uses 
> > > different mantras.  Can't pick the same fight over 'effortlessness' that 
> > > way as with the Buddhists so evidently AOL for as large as it is, is 
> > > strategically ignored.
> > >
> 
> Since this is an internal paper we saw, it has probably less to do whom you 
> would like to mention, or who is you enemy, but rather, whom you see as a 
> serious competitor, and with whom's publicity strategy you will compare. 
> >From our AOL fiends on FFL e could hear some time ago, that while AOL is 
> largely successful, it is mainly through the Indian populace in the US. 
> Besides that, SSRS is mainly presented as a Guru figure, and that is maybe 
> something they want to avoid. 
>

Yes, a big play between them all now is for acceptance and access to public 
education, healthcare and public funding.  Winning any of those would be a holy 
grail (an object or goal that is sought after for its great significance.) .  
Along with the Buddhists it's a rough market place that is getting sharply 
competitive with their comparative science research.  It's a thorough-bred 
horse race with lots of jockeying going on. 
 
> > From what I hear, SSRS has decided that people should not bother returning 
> > to the mantra if they find themselves in pure consciousness. That is an 
> > important distinction, if correct, and to me, it misses the point of TM:
> > 
> > if you can notice you are not thinking the mantra, you are no longer in PC 
> > anyway, so there's no point in "enjoying it," as you aren't really there. 
> > You're just fooling yourself.
> > 
> 
> This is a typical Lawson. (Make me the Lawson) So, do you think that SSRS, 
> being a close disciple, closest as you can think of, until his departure, 
> just didn't *get* TM? I know that Shankaracharya Shantanand, taught also 
> westerners through a London based study society, (inspired by Maharishi, but 
> with just one mantra) gave a similar instruction: He went even further, that 
> you don't have to bother about the mantra, if you are in an advanced state of 
> meditation, but just can stay in silence. When you 'notice' you do not think 
> the mantra, this noticing may be a very subtle thought activity, but can very 
> well go along with PC (or you are in CC, whatever). In this state, just 
> staying with it, is usually enough. Btw. Lawson, in the 'steps' the first 
> instruction which the new initiate gets is, that he should not hold on to the 
> mantra, if he feels that it disappears. But if he 'feels' that it disappears, 
> it is a thought, right?
> 
> > 
> > BTW, I know that people like to think that SSRS has taught many millions to 
> > meditate, but in fact, the group meditation that he led a few years ago, as 
> > far as I can tell, was just a "do your own thing." It wasn't that many 
> > people practicing what his organization teaches. ANd the primary focus of 
> > the AOL is breathing exercise, not meditation, as I understand it.
> > 
> 
> While I was in India in May, I saw big banners on the street of SSRS saying 
> 'Meditate India' http://www.artofliving.org/meditateindia This was in a small 
> provincial town, the main text of the advertisement display was in the local 
> language, that I couldn't read (different script even). So it seems he may 
> have shifted his focus a bit more towards spreading meditation:
> 
> ABOUT #MEDITATEINDIA
> 
> "Meditate India is a campaign to help people internalize meditation in their 
> lifestyles to experience improved health, peace, happiness and become aware 
> of their inner latent potential. It is a campaign to make them realize that 
> meditation is easily doable."
> 
> "On 13th May you are invited to join the Free Meditation Camps across India. 
> Come and experience the power of mediation and see the transformation in your 
> life! We assure you this is just the tip of the iceberg as there is more for 
> us to offer and you to experience. Dive deep and experience your power!"
> 
> 
> http://www.artofliving.org/meditateindia/art-living-conduct-nation-wide-meditation-camps
> 
> 'With an aim to educate people on how meditation is healthy, and easy to 
> l