[FairfieldLife] Re: criminal charges?badge of honour in India of today
Murder, rape, enemies, bribes,sleazy characters,corruption, sounds like an episode from the Sopranos. Are these the Vedic lights of India? Poor India, can't get a break --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 03/16/2013 01:32 PM, srijau@... wrote: http://www.kanchi-sathya.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nityananda_sex_scandal if are not up on some phony rape or murder charge in India of today then you can't be doing much to threaten the corrupt and spiritually dead established order. Despite being the biggest single employer of Brahmin pundits now, Maharishi has long been regarded as prime enemy by the non-TM Brahmins for threatening their livelihood as they don't do Yoga as well as Yagya and due their wanting to keep the Kayasthas from competing for any kind of spiritual activity. And just fail to pay your bribes in full and on time and you can get lots of trouble. The real inheritance from the uncle is a refusal to play along with a corrupt game and to be defined by the view majority of the pundit Brahmin caste who have a long history of ruthless bullying of anyone they consider non-Brahmin. The usual sleazy characters here treat these charges as conviction and guilt and have their predictable orgy of rhetorical excess, slander and fabrications. Which is why to skip these right hand traditions and learn from tantric since those traditions don't often discriminate via caste. My tantra guru was a Kshatriya and a Sikh and his guru a Brahmin Hindu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish the Varmint
My guess is that millions has been stashed away somewhere, maybe Tony can find out where the money is as well. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: http://tinyurl.com/am4n6w6 I'm on the next photo. Interesting the caption under photo 1 Bhopal: Girish Verma, chief of Maharishi Vidya Mandir School, is likely to submit his resignation after being accused in a molestation case. Tony Nadar, head of Maharishi global country of world peace, is likely to ask Girish to quit from the board of directors of Maharishi Vidya Mandir. Interesting how the new Pope and Tony Nader face the same kind of obstacles. Will Tony tour the facilities and comfort the terrorized people there like a new Pope may tour the Church and minister to their wounded.
[FairfieldLife] Girish the Varmint
http://i8.dainikbhaskar.com/thumbnail/600x519/web2images/www.dailybhaskar.com/2013/03/10/9228_mahesh-yogi-4.gif
[FairfieldLife] Girish the Varmint
http://tinyurl.com/am4n6w6
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Update on Prop 37 yagya, please read!
A sucker is born every minute. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Whirled peas and all that comes with it is not free; there ain't no free lunch; love is not unconditional; put your money where your mouth is, etc., etc From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Update on Prop 37 yagya, please read!  I don't get it - don't these pundits who do the yagyas work for the Movement? If so why the heck would they have to have $10,000 bucks!!!??? From: Dick Mays dickmays@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Update on Prop 37 yagya, please read!  Forwarded: a letter to a donorplease, can you help too? If CA prop 37 passes, it gets the foot in the door to get it everywhere. This is the single biggest GMO hope we have, or ever have had. PLEASE DONATE! Even if it is only a few dollars. Also, please just go the link. Even only doing this much will help! Sharalyn Thank you for making a donation to help fund a Maharishi Yagya to support the passage of California Proposition 37 requiring the labeling of food containing GMO. In the first 2 days of this campaign, just under $2000 has been donated by 28 people including you. Your donation is deeply appreciated. Every donation big or small expresses the same concern that the labeling of GMO in food is of utmost importance for the well-being of everyone. If for some reason we do not achieve the required amount the monies raised will be applied to the next National Yagya for the United States. As of Saturday morning we have had 121 visitors to the site, most from the USA. Visits to the site have also come from Great Britain, Netherlands, Germany, India, Ireland, Portugal, Japan, Norway, France, New Zealand, Sweden and Switzerland. Proposition 37 is an International issue. We still have quite a ways to go to meet the required amount ($10,000) necessary to have the Yagya performed, but we are working very hard to achieve the target.  To be more precise, we will have several graha shantiâs performed for the Political Action Committee identified as most likely to have the greatest affect on the campaign during the remaining days before Nov 6. Graha Shantis are performances done to improve specific planetary influences that may be restrictive. Our original goal was to raise $50,000 for a Yagya for the entire state of California but the deadline for that was too short for this type of fundraising. We still have our hopes that an Angel will step forward to make that happen. The dangers of having GMO in the food stream have been recognized by the over 60 countries which have put some form of ban on GMO. By contrast, in the United States the Agri-biotech industry has positioned itself to control not only the invention, implementation, and distribution of these products but the scientific assessment of their effects on public health and the environment, and the governmental regulation of them as well. This is starting to change with a formal Senate inquiry into the policy making process in the FDA on the labeling of GMO now underway. A Yes outcome on California Proposition 37 will greatly speed up the creation of more effective regulation at both the state and federal levels. If you would like to share this email with your friends please do. Hopefully it will draw more attention to the website www.yagyaforfoodsafety.com. Also you may want to revisit the site once or twice. Our goal is to put up fresh information every few days. Again thank you for stepping forward to help make this happen. You recognize the urgency of the situation and the power of action from the level of the Unified Field to influence desired results.
[FairfieldLife] Purusha stranded by intense Monsoon floods in Uttar Kasha
If anyone in the movement is listening, perhaps it might be a good idea to arrange an airlift before the Purusha gets sweept away! Dateline: UttarKashi-Purusha Central Greetings Everyone, You may or may not have heard but Gajoli Ashram is now in an official disaster zone site, but we are doing just fine here in the ashram. We have heard there are a lot of rumors about us out there so here is our situation. A brave staff boy is taking our flash drives into town so we can have these emails sent out. On the 4th of Aug the Asi Ganga River, which is hundreds of feet lower than we are, swelled from the monsoon rains and let loose a flood that trashed everything from high in the mountains above Sangam Chati to Uttar Kashi. Sangam Chati was the closest village to us with a paved road. Actually Sangam Chati is not there at all anymore, everything but one chai stall was washed away. All the bridges are down from where we are to Uttar Kashi. The two bridges in Uttar Kashi are damaged beyond use, only one bridge below Gyan Su, south of Uttar Kashi is useable. Maharishi's gupta in Uttar Kashi (house he built in the 1950's) was washed away. The road from Sangam Chatti to Gangori (a town half way between us and Uttar Kashi) is trashed beyond use. The only way out is bushwhacking your way from Sangam Chati to Gangori above the roaring river taking a grueling and dangerous 6 hours over loose boulders and rock slides. The monsoon's pouring rains are no help. Once in Gangori taxis are available to take you to Uttar Kashi but the roads are pretty rough. Most of us feel like staying right here where it is safe. Our ashram is fine, plenty of food in our store room and garden, but we are cooking on wood fires and are rationing our generator use to 30 mins every other day in our rooms and 30 mins in the dinning hall every night. At that rate we expect to run out of diesel by the end of the month. No one really knows what to expect but it will be many months, maybe a year, before a road reaches Sangam Chatti again. City power will probably be just as long . Right now the villagers and relief workers are trying to cut a path from Gangori to Sangam Chatti. Once they are done it will take even longer to place a stone bed to make it useable for donkeys. The military has flown in relief workers and doctors to our ashram using a building down at our dairy as a supply and distribution center for the villages in our valley. I hear another one coming in now as I write this, it looks like the media again. We have the only helipad in the valley. The military has brought in food for the villagers and some relief workers. At some point we will be using them for supplies of our own. So, we are fine here, actually in many ways this is perfect for our Purusha life making us even more focused on our programs. No light after sun set we feel like real sadhus. We believe we can get fuel for our generator flown in so that we can recharge our flashlights etc and have some amount of heating this fall. It can get cold at 7,000 feet. There is plenty of wood here in the forest for cooking and we have a solar panel system which provides hot water for one of our seven dorm buildings, so we are all sharing that for some sponge bathing. Admittedly our lives are becoming rather rustic but everyone is in good spirits.
[FairfieldLife] Purusha stranded by intense monsoons in Uttar Kashi
Perhaps the movement might take notice that the boys in the Himalayas are in real trouble and a mandatory airlift might be order. Dateline: Uttar Kashi- sent by Purusha, name unknown Greetings Everyone, You may or may not have heard but Gajoli Ashram is now in an official disaster zone site, but we are doing just fine here in the ashram. We have heard there are a lot of rumors about us out there so here is our situation. A brave staff boy is taking our flash drives into town so we can have these emails sent out. On the 4th of Aug the Asi Ganga River, which is hundreds of feet lower than we are, swelled from the monsoon rains and let loose a flood that trashed everything from high in the mountains above Sangam Chati to Uttar Kashi. Sangam Chati was the closest village to us with a paved road. Actually Sangam Chati is not there at all anymore, everything but one chai stall was washed away. All the bridges are down from where we are to Uttar Kashi. The two bridges in Uttar Kashi are damaged beyond use, only one bridge below Gyan Su, south of Uttar Kashi is useable. Maharishi's gupta in Uttar Kashi (house he built in the 1950's) was washed away. The road from Sangam Chatti to Gangori (a town half way between us and Uttar Kashi) is trashed beyond use. The only way out is bushwhacking your way from Sangam Chati to Gangori above the roaring river taking a grueling and dangerous 6 hours over loose boulders and rock slides. The monsoon's pouring rains are no help. Once in Gangori taxis are available to take you to Uttar Kashi but the roads are pretty rough. Most of us feel like staying right here where it is safe. Our ashram is fine, plenty of food in our store room and garden, but we are cooking on wood fires and are rationing our generator use to 30 mins every other day in our rooms and 30 mins in the dinning hall every night. At that rate we expect to run out of diesel by the end of the month. No one really knows what to expect but it will be many months, maybe a year, before a road reaches Sangam Chatti again. City power will probably be just as long . Right now the villagers and relief workers are trying to cut a path from Gangori to Sangam Chatti. Once they are done it will take even longer to place a stone bed to make it useable for donkeys. The military has flown in relief workers and doctors to our ashram using a building down at our dairy as a supply and distribution center for the villages in our valley. I hear another one coming in now as I write this, it looks like the media again. We have the only helipad in the valley. The military has brought in food for the villagers and some relief workers. At some point we will be using them for supplies of our own. So, we are fine here, actually in many ways this is perfect for our Purusha life making us even more focused on our programs. No light after sun set we feel like real sadhus. We believe we can get fuel for our generator flown in so that we can recharge our flashlights etc and have some amount of heating this fall. It can get cold at 7,000 feet. There is plenty of wood here in the forest for cooking and we have a solar panel system which provides hot water for one of our seven dorm buildings, so we are all sharing that for some sponge bathing. Admittedly our lives are becoming rather rustic but everyone is in good spirits.
[FairfieldLife] CERN Claims faster than light particle measure-Oops!
(AP) GENEVA A fundamental pillar of physics that nothing can go faster than the speed of light appears to be smashed by an oddball subatomic particle that has apparently made a giant end run around Albert Einstein's theories. Scientists at the world's largest physics lab said Thursday they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than light. That's something that according to Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity the famous E (equals) mc2 equation just doesn't happen. The feeling that most people have is this can't be right, this can't be real, said James Gillies, a spokesman for the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, outside the Swiss city of Geneva. Gillies told The Associated Press that the readings have so astounded researchers that they are asking others to independently verify the measurements before claiming an actual discovery. They are inviting the broader physics community to look at what they've done and really scrutinize it in great detail, and ideally for someone elsewhere in the world to repeat the measurements, he said Thursday. Scientists at the competing Fermilab in Chicago have promised to start such work immediately. It's a shock, said Fermilab head theoretician Stephen Parke, who was not part of the research in Geneva. It's going to cause us problems, no doubt about that - if it's true. The Chicago team had similar faster-than-light results in 2007, but those came with a giant margin of error that undercut its scientific significance. Outside scientists expressed skepticism at CERN's claim that the neutrinos one of the strangest well-known particles in physics were observed smashing past the cosmic speed barrier of 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers per second). University of Maryland physics department chairman Drew Baden called it a flying carpet, something that was too fantastic to be believable. CERN says a neutrino beam fired from a particle accelerator near Geneva to a lab 454 miles (730 kilometers) away in Italy traveled 60 nanoseconds faster than the speed of light. Scientists calculated the margin of error at just 10 nanoseconds, making the difference statistically significant. But given the enormous implications of the find, they still spent months checking and rechecking their results to make sure there was no flaws in the experiment. We have not found any instrumental effect that could explain the result of the measurement, said Antonio Ereditato, a physicist at the University of Bern, Switzerland, who was involved in the experiment known as OPERA. The CERN researchers are now looking to the United States and Japan to confirm the results. A similar neutrino experiment at Fermilab near Chicago would be capable of running the tests, said Stavros Katsanevas, the deputy director of France's National Institute for Nuclear and Particle Physics Research. The institute collaborated with Italy's Gran Sasso National Laboratory for the experiment at CERN. Katsanevas said help could also come from the T2K experiment in Japan, though that is currently on hold after the country's devastating March 11 earthquake and tsunami. Scientists agree if the results are confirmed, that it would force a fundamental rethink of the laws of nature. Einstein's special relativity theory that says energy equals mass times the speed of light squared underlies pretty much everything in modern physics, said John Ellis, a theoretical physicist at CERN who was not involved in the experiment. It has worked perfectly up until now. He cautioned that the neutrino researchers would have to explain why similar results weren't detected before, such as when an exploding star or supernova was observed in 1987. This would be such a sensational discovery if it were true that one has to treat it extremely carefully, said Ellis.
[FairfieldLife] Updated BodyVed website from Neil McCorkle
For those of you who remember Neil McCorkle from Avon Park and Purusha, he has established a very successful health practice called BodyVed http://www.bodyved.com/home.html The reversal of Aging and Disease Check it out and give it a try, he has had a track record of success. Give him a call or email him to see for yourself
[FairfieldLife] Re: Typical day for women in the Domes
pretty funny --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/item.php?item=48779
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sihk Guru said Kali Yuga now coming to an end
Maybe somebody should tell the Iranian authorities about the Sihk's great revelation: Iran stoning woman 'to be lashed over photograph' Ms Ashtiani's family say they have not been allowed to contact her in prison for two weeks. The Iranian woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery now faces being whipped for indecency, her son says. Iranian authorities sentenced Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani to 99 lashes after the Times newspaper published a picture purportedly of her without a headscarf. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: overhead said by Hari Nam Singh Khalsa on TV. but we heard that from Maharishi already.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
I always enjoy your analysis, you write well, at least from my limited perspective, I thought your Occultist trailer Trash Palin label was inspired, you would have made CW Leadbetter proud, in fact all the lodges would cheer you on. After I read your gem, I happen to notice that the unemployment rate rose to 9.6%, not exactly the Summer of Recovery that the administration touted in June. I suppose a true intellectual, regardless of how much internal firepower they pocess as a stand alone, simply can't know everything, and when someone like Obama who pocesses a high IQ coupled with unbridled narcissism, well, you have a recipe for disaster and We the People do suffer and will continue to suffer, so by the time the 2012 elections roll around, the first 50 names in the Walla Walla phone book would be preferrable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Ahem. I'm not convinced that a self-professed Zionist and Tea Party fan should be throwing around derogatory terms for intellectual Other than as contrast to his own views and limited ability to think, that is. Only in America (and in China during Mao's great purge) is the term intellectual used to define the enemy the way a hunting dog points at his prey. Some people -- intellectuals -- feel that they should develop their own ideas, after investi- gating all sides of the story. Others, such as Zionists, Tea Partiers and cultists, are content believing what they've been told to believe. IMO the latter hate the former not because of their beliefs, but because they displayed the ability to arrive at those beliefs on their own. How does it feel being reduced to a label, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure if America will line up to re-elect the current supremo who truely is the very definition of an intellectual In short: an intellectual is a self-inflated, self-congratulatory, lover of self; a person so in thrall to beautiful theories that he is incapable of correction and impervious to evidence. Superman had kryptonite, but an intellectual's shield of self-assurance cannot be breached by any known substance, especially fact -Thomas Sowell Talk about self-referral
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking: God did not create the Universe
So are you saying people are naturally good and will do the right (not shitty thing)? Or only Buddhists and atheists? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Still riffing on this, I think that many people's issue with an eternal universe is not that it postulates No God (although that pushes a LOT of buttons because It just isn't *done* to question God's existence), but because it implies No Purpose. Yes, that, I'm sure. But what about Justice? Thinking out loud here, but... Just as you could scarcely claim a difference between an English football fan and a drunk... LOL. ...it seems there might similarly be little difference between, say, a Buddhist and an atheist. Actually, in terms of ethics there is sometimes little difference. Many of the atheists I've met who label themselves *as* atheists have a remarkably similar definition of ethics to many of the Buddhists I've met. That is, that ethics come from within. A belief or non-belief in God does not change that. In both cases the people choose to live ethically for the simple reason that it matters to *them*, not to some supposedly all-seeing Daddy or some omni- present and equally watchful set of Laws Of Nature. It's the same notion as Doing A Good Job Is More Fun Than Doing A Shitty Job. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking: God did not create the Universe
Fair enough, but when does it start to matter to them, and where do they get the notion of what is the right thing to do? When one raises a child, do we say well you know the right thing to do, just do it! Or are they taught right from wrong, what are good actions and what are bad- manners, behavior, character development,do unto others, charity,kindness,goodness, strong value system.Where did the parents learn these good values/virtues? It has to come from somewhere, and for most, not all it comes from our culture, founded on, dare I say, Judeo Christian values. That's what this country was founded on, certain principles, right actions, not from feelings and what feels right. This is built into our DNA, but now in our post Christian secular culture, we think it just comes naturally within. Now we stop teaching right from wrong, we are taught other values, and it will be lost, and people won't know how to act. Action, I could care less what you think of me or label me, just treat me at least with some degree of civility. We are living in a culure of entitlement and victimhood, and when the money runs out, what is left? What does one fall back on? Strong character development? No, the trend doesn't look good. Wisdom is not valued anymore, we have a President who is devoid of wisdom, he is smart but nobody says, look at our president, he really reminds me of Washington or Lincoln. He had a great opportunity, but he seems distracted from wars, putting our military in harms way, and as far as fundamentally transforming our country, I see a tearing apart of our foundational fabric. But he has good intentions, it feels good and I guess nowadays that's all that counts, is happy talk! Consequences be damned. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: So are you saying people are naturally good and will do the right (not shitty thing)? Or only Buddhists and atheists? I am saying that some people try to do the right thing, and that doing so has nothing whatsoever to do with whether they are Buddhists, atheists, or deists. They do it because it matters to them. Other people choose not to do the right thing. They do this because doing the right thing doesn't matter to them. Belief in God or non-belief in God has nothing to do with it. Neither does what any of them *say* they believe about doing the right thing. The only thing that matters is what they *do*. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Still riffing on this, I think that many people's issue with an eternal universe is not that it postulates No God (although that pushes a LOT of buttons because It just isn't *done* to question God's existence), but because it implies No Purpose. Yes, that, I'm sure. But what about Justice? Thinking out loud here, but... Just as you could scarcely claim a difference between an English football fan and a drunk... LOL. ...it seems there might similarly be little difference between, say, a Buddhist and an atheist. Actually, in terms of ethics there is sometimes little difference. Many of the atheists I've met who label themselves *as* atheists have a remarkably similar definition of ethics to many of the Buddhists I've met. That is, that ethics come from within. A belief or non-belief in God does not change that. In both cases the people choose to live ethically for the simple reason that it matters to *them*, not to some supposedly all-seeing Daddy or some omni- present and equally watchful set of Laws Of Nature. It's the same notion as Doing A Good Job Is More Fun Than Doing A Shitty Job. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
Vote Pelosi and Reid out, keep Obama but have a Republican Congress, just like Clinton had, better times ahead. Also once Pelosi took over Congress, big downturn, have a balance, all is not lost. Maybe I should have said Yakima, you know folks there too? How about Forks or Snoqualmie? Hood Canal? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: BTW, I might know some of those first 50 named. ;-) Although I voted for Obama I'm not happy with his Wall Street crew and doing little for Main Street. But I was not expecting miracles. Go back and look at my posts here in summer 2008 where I said that the Republicans had 30 years of destroying the US economy and the middle class and that they didn't want to win the election and that was the reason for the McCain-Palin joke ticket and that they knew the mess at hand. These scum have always hated the middle class for owning property. They are a spoiled little bunch who were the whiny kids in school. Bottom line: Republicans won't be able to clean their mess either. Not in 2012 nor any other time. America is finished. sgrayatlarge wrote: I always enjoy your analysis, you write well, at least from my limited perspective, I thought your Occultist trailer Trash Palin label was inspired, you would have made CW Leadbetter proud, in fact all the lodges would cheer you on. After I read your gem, I happen to notice that the unemployment rate rose to 9.6%, not exactly the Summer of Recovery that the administration touted in June. I suppose a true intellectual, regardless of how much internal firepower they pocess as a stand alone, simply can't know everything, and when someone like Obama who pocesses a high IQ coupled with unbridled narcissism, well, you have a recipe for disaster and We the People do suffer and will continue to suffer, so by the time the 2012 elections roll around, the first 50 names in the Walla Walla phone book would be preferrable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Ahem. I'm not convinced that a self-professed Zionist and Tea Party fan should be throwing around derogatory terms for intellectual Other than as contrast to his own views and limited ability to think, that is. Only in America (and in China during Mao's great purge) is the term intellectual used to define the enemy the way a hunting dog points at his prey. Some people -- intellectuals -- feel that they should develop their own ideas, after investi- gating all sides of the story. Others, such as Zionists, Tea Partiers and cultists, are content believing what they've been told to believe. IMO the latter hate the former not because of their beliefs, but because they displayed the ability to arrive at those beliefs on their own. How does it feel being reduced to a label, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure if America will line up to re-elect the current supremo who truely is the very definition of an intellectual In short: an intellectual is a self-inflated, self-congratulatory, lover of self; a person so in thrall to beautiful theories that he is incapable of correction and impervious to evidence. Superman had kryptonite, but an intellectual's shield of self-assurance cannot be breached by any known substance, especially fact -Thomas Sowell Talk about self-referral
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
How sad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The old wingnut switcheroo, eh? Avoid answering a question by asking another one? I'm not falling for that one. So you must be Tea Partier? IOW, an Idiocrat. Do you actually believe that Glenn Beck is bringing kindness and decency to the world or Rupert Murdoch for that matter or the Koch brothers? Under those terms you would have thought that Hitler and Mussolini were your kind of guys. sgrayatlarge wrote: The question is are you worth anything? What is your worth? What are you doing to bring goodness and decency to the world? What acts of kindness have you done lately? Question everyone has to ask about themselves --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I can't believe that anyone on FFL would be so ignorant as to think that Glenn Beck is worth anything? Did you miss the intellect sutra? sgrayatlarge wrote: Re: Glenn Buck BTW, you and your left leaning friends need to know that little boilerplate rant of your won't be tolerated anymore. You see when you can't articulate an argument you fall into the SIX HIRB, what is that? Well glad you asked, when in doubt and you simply want to shut down an argument here is what happens: Your personal attack goes something like this, label the following, choose your weapon: S-Label as Sexist I-Label is Intolerant X-label as Xenophobic H-Label as Homophobic I-Label as Islamophobic R-Label as Racist B-Label as Bigot It's easy to remember SIX HIRB, so just continue your little tantrums, attack personally and know that it has lost it's , shall we say in Tantric terms- SHAKTI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Hey just turn off the channel and breath Bhairitu, it will be OK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
Apparently Sarah Palin continues to capture attention here as well --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Sarah Palin looks one of the most insanely ambitious and egomaniacal(?) women I've ever seen! She is occultist trailer trash, addicted to attention but too dumb to be self-aware or aware of the things she does on both a mundane and an occult level to attract it. She has always struck me as similar to the thousands of starlets one meets in L.A., seeking desperately to overcome the stench (as they perceive it) of obscurity, unaware that the smell comes from within. The only thing that keeps her in the public eye is the public's own tabloid fascination with fame and those who make the papers. The American public are attention sluts, willing to give their attention to anyone who makes Page One. But attention sluts are fickle, and always need someone new and interesting (to them) to focus on and obsess on, and Sarah just doesn't have the depth or breadth of experience to *stay* on Page One. The attention addiction is a fascinating one IMO, on both sides -- the need of some people to suck it, and the need in others to give it away. Both phenomena are fueled in my opinion by a perceived *lack* in their lives and the belief that that lack would be eliminated if only. If only I were more famous I'd feel better. If only the things I read in the papers and watch on TV were more interesting, I'd feel better. Neither is true. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Palin is also supposed to be in Iowa on the 17th for a Republican fund raiser. do.rflex wrote: A Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin suggests she has a very nasty temper: One friend of the Palins' remembers an argument between Sarah and Todd: 'They took all the canned goods out of the pantry, then proceeded to throw them at each other. By the time they got done, the stainless-steel fridge looked like it had got shot up with a shotgun. Todd said, 'I don't know why I even waste my time trying to get nice things for you if you're just going to ruin them.' ' This friend adds, 'As soon as she enters her property and the door closes, even the insects in that house cringe.' More: One person who has been a frequent houseguest of the Palins' says that the couple began many mornings with screaming fights, a fusillade of curses: 'Fuck you,' 'Fuck this,' 'You lazy piece of shit.' 'You're fuckin' lucky to have me,' Sarah would always say.' Linked here: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/01/palins_temper.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
They or you hating America? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Yup, the Idiocrats are very sad. Why do they hate America? sgrayatlarge wrote: How sad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The old wingnut switcheroo, eh? Avoid answering a question by asking another one? I'm not falling for that one. So you must be Tea Partier? IOW, an Idiocrat. Do you actually believe that Glenn Beck is bringing kindness and decency to the world or Rupert Murdoch for that matter or the Koch brothers? Under those terms you would have thought that Hitler and Mussolini were your kind of guys. sgrayatlarge wrote: The question is are you worth anything? What is your worth? What are you doing to bring goodness and decency to the world? What acts of kindness have you done lately? Question everyone has to ask about themselves --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I can't believe that anyone on FFL would be so ignorant as to think that Glenn Beck is worth anything? Did you miss the intellect sutra? sgrayatlarge wrote: Re: Glenn Buck BTW, you and your left leaning friends need to know that little boilerplate rant of your won't be tolerated anymore. You see when you can't articulate an argument you fall into the SIX HIRB, what is that? Well glad you asked, when in doubt and you simply want to shut down an argument here is what happens: Your personal attack goes something like this, label the following, choose your weapon: S-Label as Sexist I-Label is Intolerant X-label as Xenophobic H-Label as Homophobic I-Label as Islamophobic R-Label as Racist B-Label as Bigot It's easy to remember SIX HIRB, so just continue your little tantrums, attack personally and know that it has lost it's , shall we say in Tantric terms- SHAKTI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Hey just turn off the channel and breath Bhairitu, it will be OK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
dim-whited? Is that slip or a racial slur? Just wondering, trying to understand this intellectually. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@... wrote: I don't give a damn about Sarah Palin's personal life. What I'm concerned about is that a fucking dim-whited anti-intellectual, fraud is moving towards a presidential run. Peter On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:06 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Oh the fulminating the name Sarah Palin doth wrought. Guys, guys, catch your breath. I have to wonder why one little gossipy tabloid tale about the private life of the Palins should get you so worked up. Is it contempt for women in general or just ambitious women who don't know their place that has your knickers in such a twist? Why is everyone so quick to believe Sarah tried to bean Todd with a can of tuna? If her stainless-steel fridge looked like it had sustained artillery fire, it doesn't make sense there isn't a record of domestic violence, or a hospital admission. She can't be that bad of a shot, can she? No one got a concussion...it's all good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Sarah Palin looks one of the most insanely ambitious and egomaniacal(?) women I've ever seen! She is occultist trailer trash, addicted to attention but too dumb to be self-aware or aware of the things she does on both a mundane and an occult level to attract it. She has always struck me as similar to the thousands of starlets one meets in L.A., seeking desperately to overcome the stench (as they perceive it) of obscurity, unaware that the smell comes from within. The only thing that keeps her in the public eye is the public's own tabloid fascination with fame and those who make the papers. The American public are attention sluts, willing to give their attention to anyone who makes Page One. But attention sluts are fickle, and always need someone new and interesting (to them) to focus on and obsess on, and Sarah just doesn't have the depth or breadth of experience to *stay* on Page One. If Sarah can't stay on page one how come you're still talking about her? The attention addiction is a fascinating one IMO, on both sides -- the need of some people to suck it, and the need in others to give it away. Both phenomena are fueled in my opinion by a perceived *lack* in their lives and the belief that that lack would be eliminated if only. If only I were more famous I'd feel better. If only the things I read in the papers and watch on TV were more interesting, I'd feel better. Neither is true. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Palin is also supposed to be in Iowa on the 17th for a Republican fund raiser. do.rflex wrote: A Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin suggests she has a very nasty temper: One friend of the Palins' remembers an argument between Sarah and Todd: 'They took all the canned goods out of the pantry, then proceeded to throw them at each other. By the time they got done, the stainless-steel fridge looked like it had got shot up with a shotgun. Todd said, 'I don't know why I even waste my time trying to get nice things for you if you're just going to ruin them.' ' This friend adds, 'As soon as she enters her property and the door closes, even the insects in that house cringe.' More: One person who has been a frequent houseguest of the Palins' says that the couple began many mornings with screaming fights, a fusillade of curses: 'Fuck you,' 'Fuck this,' 'You lazy piece of shit.' 'You're fuckin' lucky to have me,' Sarah would always say.' Linked here: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/01/palins_temper.html To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
dim-whited? Is that slip or a racial slur? Just wondering, trying to understand this intellectually. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@... wrote: I don't give a damn about Sarah Palin's personal life. What I'm concerned about is that a fucking dim-whited anti-intellectual, fraud is moving towards a presidential run. Peter On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:06 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Oh the fulminating the name Sarah Palin doth wrought. Guys, guys, catch your breath. I have to wonder why one little gossipy tabloid tale about the private life of the Palins should get you so worked up. Is it contempt for women in general or just ambitious women who don't know their place that has your knickers in such a twist? Why is everyone so quick to believe Sarah tried to bean Todd with a can of tuna? If her stainless-steel fridge looked like it had sustained artillery fire, it doesn't make sense there isn't a record of domestic violence, or a hospital admission. She can't be that bad of a shot, can she? No one got a concussion...it's all good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Sarah Palin looks one of the most insanely ambitious and egomaniacal(?) women I've ever seen! She is occultist trailer trash, addicted to attention but too dumb to be self-aware or aware of the things she does on both a mundane and an occult level to attract it. She has always struck me as similar to the thousands of starlets one meets in L.A., seeking desperately to overcome the stench (as they perceive it) of obscurity, unaware that the smell comes from within. The only thing that keeps her in the public eye is the public's own tabloid fascination with fame and those who make the papers. The American public are attention sluts, willing to give their attention to anyone who makes Page One. But attention sluts are fickle, and always need someone new and interesting (to them) to focus on and obsess on, and Sarah just doesn't have the depth or breadth of experience to *stay* on Page One. If Sarah can't stay on page one how come you're still talking about her? The attention addiction is a fascinating one IMO, on both sides -- the need of some people to suck it, and the need in others to give it away. Both phenomena are fueled in my opinion by a perceived *lack* in their lives and the belief that that lack would be eliminated if only. If only I were more famous I'd feel better. If only the things I read in the papers and watch on TV were more interesting, I'd feel better. Neither is true. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Palin is also supposed to be in Iowa on the 17th for a Republican fund raiser. do.rflex wrote: A Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin suggests she has a very nasty temper: One friend of the Palins' remembers an argument between Sarah and Todd: 'They took all the canned goods out of the pantry, then proceeded to throw them at each other. By the time they got done, the stainless-steel fridge looked like it had got shot up with a shotgun. Todd said, 'I don't know why I even waste my time trying to get nice things for you if you're just going to ruin them.' ' This friend adds, 'As soon as she enters her property and the door closes, even the insects in that house cringe.' More: One person who has been a frequent houseguest of the Palins' says that the couple began many mornings with screaming fights, a fusillade of curses: 'Fuck you,' 'Fuck this,' 'You lazy piece of shit.' 'You're fuckin' lucky to have me,' Sarah would always say.' Linked here: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/09/01/palins_temper.html To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper
I'm not sure if America will line up to re-elect the current supremo who truely is the very definition of an intellectual In short: an intellectual is a self-inflated, self-congratulatory, lover of self; a person so in thrall to beautiful theories that he is incapable of correction and impervious to evidence. Superman had kryptonite, but an intellectual's shield of self-assurance cannot be breached by any known substance, especially fact -Thomas Sowell Talk about self-referral --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter L Sutphen Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:00 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin's Temper I don't give a damn about Sarah Palin's personal life. What I'm concerned about is that a fucking dim-whited anti-intellectual, fraud is moving towards a presidential run. Obama vs. Palin might be a more certain win for Obama than Obama vs. Romney, or some other credible candidate. The contrast between Obama and Palin would certainly be stark. It might bring back to the voting booth the liberals who were expecting miracles from Obama and are now disillusioned. Hell, some Republicans might even vote for him, for fear that a Palin presidency would irreparably damage their party, and make the US the laughing stock of the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
The question is are you worth anything? What is your worth? What are you doing to bring goodness and decency to the world? What acts of kindness have you done lately? Question everyone has to ask about themselves --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I can't believe that anyone on FFL would be so ignorant as to think that Glenn Beck is worth anything? Did you miss the intellect sutra? sgrayatlarge wrote: Re: Glenn Buck BTW, you and your left leaning friends need to know that little boilerplate rant of your won't be tolerated anymore. You see when you can't articulate an argument you fall into the SIX HIRB, what is that? Well glad you asked, when in doubt and you simply want to shut down an argument here is what happens: Your personal attack goes something like this, label the following, choose your weapon: S-Label as Sexist I-Label is Intolerant X-label as Xenophobic H-Label as Homophobic I-Label as Islamophobic R-Label as Racist B-Label as Bigot It's easy to remember SIX HIRB, so just continue your little tantrums, attack personally and know that it has lost it's , shall we say in Tantric terms- SHAKTI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Hey just turn off the channel and breath Bhairitu, it will be OK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
Hey just turn off the channel and breath Bhairitu, it will be OK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
BTW, you and your left leaning friends need to know that little boilerplate rant of your won't be tolerated anymore. You see when you can't articulate an argument you fall into the SIX HIRB, what is that? Well glad you asked, when in doubt and you simply want to shut down an argument here is what happens: Your personal attack goes something like this, label the following, choose your weapon: S- Label as Sexist I- Label is Intolerant X-lable as Xenophobic H-Label as Homophobic I-Labels as Islamophobic R-Label as Racist B-Label as Bigot It's easy to remember SIX HIRB, so just continue your little tantrums, attack personally and know that it has lost it's , shall we say in Tantric terms- SHAKTI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Buck
Re: Glenn Buck BTW, you and your left leaning friends need to know that little boilerplate rant of your won't be tolerated anymore. You see when you can't articulate an argument you fall into the SIX HIRB, what is that? Well glad you asked, when in doubt and you simply want to shut down an argument here is what happens: Your personal attack goes something like this, label the following, choose your weapon: S-Label as Sexist I-Label is Intolerant X-label as Xenophobic H-Label as Homophobic I-Label as Islamophobic R-Label as Racist B-Label as Bigot It's easy to remember SIX HIRB, so just continue your little tantrums, attack personally and know that it has lost it's , shall we say in Tantric terms- SHAKTI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Hey just turn off the channel and breath Bhairitu, it will be OK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Of course this is all about money not any real political thing. Glenn Beck is worth $32 million. A case of a sleaze ball millionaire doing the bidding of his master Rupert Murdoch who wants to maintain the status quo which is really against the interests of his followers the Idiocrats (TeaPartiers). Such people are a drag on society as someone we all knew would call them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Israeli airline security check dehumanising
Is this the only passenger that has been subjected to this kind of treatment or have there been others? We wouldn't know because the The Hindu article didn't say. So is this an isolated incident? Perhaps some investigative journalism would help here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: News » Cities » Bangalore âIsraeli airline security check dehumanising' Staff Reporter Frequent fliers may have become accustomed to intense security checks at airports. Baggage screening has extended to footwear, banned products now include toothpaste, and it may not be long before controversial full-body scans are routine. A letter to the Ministry of External Affairs, however, suggests that invasive security measures used by some airlines can push even the most seasoned travellers beyond endurance. Scientist S. Chinniah, in the letter dated August 18, alleges that she was subjected to a four-and-half hour âdehumanisingâ security check by the Israeli airline El Al at the Mumbai airport. Ms. Chinniah, who lives with her husband and two daughters in Bangalore, travelled on a vacation on June 24 to Tel Aviv to see her friends from Cornell University, where she studied. At the Mumbai airport, she said, she was subjected to a traumatic interrogation, for no apparent reason, and without explanation. Having arrived several hours early, she was in the security-check line when El Al security led her to a small room at the back of the airport and kept her there for the next four-and-half hours. Their aggressive questioning included queries on her recent travel to Malaysia and Dubai, including whom she visited there. To her mortification, she was asked to remove her trousers and shoes. Ms. Chinniah was concerned that a woman security was not present. She was left with three men, who refused to show her any identification. She said she was not allowed to eat, drink water or go to the toilet. âNo Indian security personnel were present during this process, given that it was conducted on Indian soil. Only Israeli security personnel (all of whom spoke Hebrew) were present when I was taken aside,â she said. Ms. Chinniah has sent copies of her letter to El Al Airlines, the Israeli Embassy and the United States consulates in Chennai and Mumbai.  Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: physicist Lawrence Krauss on Chopra and TM
Let's see to get to the level of Hagelin, I would say it would take how many years of college and post graduate work? Deepak recycles the same stuff over and over again, I would like to see him produce equations on a black board. That won't happen, Deepak is not stupid but he is no physicist, but that won't stop him for being a self proclaimed polymath. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sgrayatlarge Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: physicist Lawrence Krauss on Chopra and TM I Imagine the thin skinned Dr. Chopra will no doubt challenge Prof. Krauss as a low consciousness no nothing, however Dr. Chopra please consider his CV before you launch an embassasing attack: By implication, Prof. Krauss is criticizing Hagelin as much as he is Deepak. Deepak learned his physics in the TM movement. Prof. Lawrence M. Krauss is an internationally known theoretical physicist with wide research interests, including the interface between elementary particle physics and cosmology, where his studies include the early universe, the nature of dark matter, general relativity and neutrino astrophysics. He has investigated questions ranging from the nature of exploding stars to issues of the origin of all mass in the universe. He was born in New York City and moved shortly thereafter to Toronto, Canada, where he grew up. He received undergraduate degrees in both Mathematics and Physics at Carleton University. He received his Ph.D. in Physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1982), then joined the Harvard Society of Fellows (1982-85). He joined the faculty of the departments of Physics and Astronomy at Yale University as assistant professor in 1985, and associate professor in 1988. In 1993 he was named the Ambrose Swasey Professor of Physics, Professor of Astronomy, and Chairman of the department of Physics at Case Western Reserve University. He served in the latter position for 12 years, until 2005. During this period he built up the department, which was ranked among the top 20 Physics Graduate Research Programs in the country in a 2005 national ranking. Among the major new initiatives he spearheaded are included the creation of one of the top particle astrophysics experimental and theoretical programs in the US, and the creation of a groundbreaking Masters Program in Physics Entrepreneurship. In 2002, he was named Director of the Center for Education and Research in Cosmology and Astrophysics at Case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: p. 36, Scientific American, Sept, 2010 DEEPAK CHOPRA: I have read numerous pieces by him on why quantum mechanics provides rationales for everything from the existence of God to the possibility of changing the past. Nothing I have ever read, however, suggests he has enough understanding of quantum mechanics to pass an undergraduate course I might teach on the subject. THE SECRET: This best-selling book, which spawned a self-help industry, seems to be built on part on the claim that quantum physics implies a law of attraction that suggests good thoughts will make good things happen. It doesn't. TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION: TMers argue that they can fly by achieving a lower quantum-mechanical ground state and that the more people who practice TM, the less violent the world will become. This last idea at least is in accord with quantum mechanics, to the extent that if everyone on the planet did nothing but meditate there wouldn't be time for violence (or acts of kindness, either).
[FairfieldLife] Re: physicist Lawrence Krauss on Chopra and TM
I Imagine the thin skinned Dr. Chopra will no doubt challenge Prof. Krauss as a low consciousness no nothing, however Dr. Chopra please consider his CV before you launch an embassasing attack: Prof. Lawrence M. Krauss is an internationally known theoretical physicist with wide research interests, including the interface between elementary particle physics and cosmology, where his studies include the early universe, the nature of dark matter, general relativity and neutrino astrophysics. He has investigated questions ranging from the nature of exploding stars to issues of the origin of all mass in the universe. He was born in New York City and moved shortly thereafter to Toronto, Canada, where he grew up. He received undergraduate degrees in both Mathematics and Physics at Carleton University. He received his Ph.D. in Physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1982), then joined the Harvard Society of Fellows (1982-85). He joined the faculty of the departments of Physics and Astronomy at Yale University as assistant professor in 1985, and associate professor in 1988. In 1993 he was named the Ambrose Swasey Professor of Physics, Professor of Astronomy, and Chairman of the department of Physics at Case Western Reserve University. He served in the latter position for 12 years, until 2005. During this period he built up the department, which was ranked among the top 20 Physics Graduate Research Programs in the country in a 2005 national ranking. Among the major new initiatives he spearheaded are included the creation of one of the top particle astrophysics experimental and theoretical programs in the US, and the creation of a groundbreaking Masters Program in Physics Entrepreneurship. In 2002, he was named Director of the Center for Education and Research in Cosmology and Astrophysics at Case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: p. 36, Scientific American, Sept, 2010 DEEPAK CHOPRA: I have read numerous pieces by him on why quantum mechanics provides rationales for everything from the existence of God to the possibility of changing the past. Nothing I have ever read, however, suggests he has enough understanding of quantum mechanics to pass an undergraduate course I might teach on the subject. THE SECRET: This best-selling book, which spawned a self-help industry, seems to be built on part on the claim that quantum physics implies a law of attraction that suggests good thoughts will make good things happen. It doesn't. TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION: TMers argue that they can fly by achieving a lower quantum-mechanical ground state and that the more people who practice TM, the less violent the world will become. This last idea at least is in accord with quantum mechanics, to the extent that if everyone on the planet did nothing but meditate there wouldn't be time for violence (or acts of kindness, either).
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Grand Tea Party Unification Theory
Speaking of choke , indeed William Kristol doesn't hold a candle to the likes of the left like Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen drpetersutp...@... wrote: Oh yea, William Kristol, choke full of insights! Peter On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:48 PM, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Bhairitu: Grand Tea Party members are also called Idiocrats and favor an Idiocracy. The left is unpopular, undisciplined, and ill-tempered. The f*ck tea movementâthat's what the left has come to. They can't defend the results of Obama's policies or the validity of Krugman's arguments. They know it's hard to sustain an antidemocratic ethos in a democracy. They realize they've degenerated into pro-am levels of whining and squabbling. So they curse their opponents... Read more: 'Collapse' BY William Kristol Weekly Standard, August 23, 2010 http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/collapse To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra ordained as Buddhist
Channel glasses and all --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Maharishi lineage holder Deepak Chopra ordained into Thai Buddhist Order. It's amazing Deepak was so selfless as to share this and have his son film it: http://tinyurl.com/2a77o2u LINK
[FairfieldLife] Re: How many women knew?
Man Curtis, I don't remember any of that, I was never closer than the next to the last row, probably a good thing because I could easily leave those most annoying lectures and simply count the days before I leave hell! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: A friend with a memory I trust more than my own reports the Rindy story this way: Rindy got up, M said 'Where are you going?', Rindy said, 'The bathroom', M said, 'That's alright', Then Rindy sat back down and stayed. I think she interpreted his concern as wanting her to stay, so she disregarded his permission. He also reminded me that the phrase he ejaculated used for people speaking was often used by Yogananda! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: You know, you think the women would know, but look at poor Rob M. in Judith's book who took until 1976 to put 2 and 2 together. Reminds me that in the 1970's nobody knew the Village People were gay. Perception is a strange cat indeed! Yeah I totally kicked myself in the but when the Michael Jackson stuff came out. What was I thinking? That he was just a childlike asexual pop star with a van the size of Neverland! Uh huh. --- On Fri, 8/6/10, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] How many women knew? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 6, 2010, 10:54 AM Looking through Judith's book again before sending it back and it occurred to me that other women HAD to have known about what was going on with Maharishi and Judith and others. Women KNOW these things, don't you ladies? In my experience a woman's radar of who is sleeping with whom is highly refined and requires only a glance between the lovers for detection. I remember being in India from Sidhland and trying to be a good little brahmachari. But oh those European women! Because I was sitting right at Maharishi's feet for some lectures having weaseled myself so close the sandals he had taken off were in my hands (big mojo at the time) some women were checking me out as if I was more than a lowly minion. A 108 perhaps? With the trust fund to keep us both at the feet of the master wearing shatoosh shawls no doubt! Anyway like a roadie with the Rolling Stones some of the magic dripped on me and my eyes connected with a Basque girl who had the impossibly adorable face that certain Euro bloodlines have that make you think they must have a genetic link to the elves. Later in the dining hall running around in my suit collecting more fuel for the dysentery machine churning inside me we bumped into each other and immediately started talking. I told her about my monkish life at sidhaland and she threw her head back and laughed in my face. You are no brahmachari she ejaculated. (I always see this word in novels and I wanted to try it out. It is just unusable outside a comedic setting isn't it? It's second meaning doesn't stand a chance: utter suddenly and passionately; exclaim.) Anyhoo she had my number and it only took her a moment of looking in my eyes and how I was looking into hers to see it. Same course, a friend of mine from sidhaland ended up in the scrum when Maharishi arrived in a bunch of women. Maharishi was looking deeply into each girl's eyes as he slowly walked in. When he got to my friend his head snapped back and he looked at him as if he was annoyed. Then he went back to blessing his little harem all the way to the stage. He told me with a laugh that he knew that Maharishi was looking at the women very differently than he was the men. One last memory. Rindy stood up during one of the endless lectures and Maharishi's head whipped around. Where are you going? he asked. To the bathroom she responded. Sit he said I want you here. Now going to the bathroom in India is not like going here. In most places you can watch the bottom fall out of your world but in Delhi you can watch the world fall out of your bottom! So Rindy sat down playing an odd little game as Maharishi droned on with the scientists about some obscure connection. I specifically listened closely to see what in the world was more important then her bodily functions but it was the same into lecture again. Kinky? Li'll whose your daddy? So... many women must have known. I think in general women were much less conflicted about sex and spirituality. The guys got much more militant about it. It wouldn't surprise me at all if many women around him had reconciled this
[FairfieldLife] What does 184 million gallons of oil look like?
Just a bit of perspective http://www.cnbc.com/id/38294088/What_Does_184_Million_Gallons_of_Oil_Look_Like?slide=9
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Yep just like the picture --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy You mean like the one in this picture to the left of Guru Dev? [Portrait of Guru Dev] Picture of Guru Dev: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/photos/puja.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Hitler had ruined this symbol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Paula Gloria or her real last name Tsconas has no business displaying such types of religious symbols that holds immense power and when abused you can see what happened, unleashed destructive forces. She has no idea what she is doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone else feel it?
I grew up in Seattle, which greasy spoon were you referring at the U District? Do you remember the Great Green Society Pizza? Courageous Outrageous Burrito? Herfy's? Good times --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: It's just a ride wrote: Ben Collins first attributed it to the 2 week window between the lunar eclipse and the solar eclipse. I said no, that's not it. He agreed. There's something happening at the level of consciousness that is putting people at dis-ease. I have emails from many countries were people are telling me that the former friendly people in the shops are now nasty. I experience this in those around me. I don't need any of the Thalmud we don't see the world as it is but as we are. There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear There's a man with a gun over there Telling me I got to beware I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down There's battle lines being drawn Nobody's right if everybody's wrong Young people speaking their minds Getting so much resistance from behind I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ;-) Everybody look what's going down What a field-day for the heat A thousand people in the street Singing songs and carrying signs Mostly say, hooray for our side It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid You step out of line, the man come and take you away We better stop, hey, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down Stop, hey, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down Stop, now, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down Stop, children, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down I remember sitting at about 4 AM in a greasy spoon in the Seattle University District spring 1967 with Stephen Stills, the Seeds manager and a few other people when our equipment manager put a nickel in the juke box and played that tune. I don't think the junkies in that place knew the composer was sitting there at a table (and was somewhat embarrassed). More interesting that particular week was probably the one when the tune was highest in the charts. It has since become the anthem for the 1960s. The tune is about the incident of the cops harassing kids near the Whiskey A-Go-Go in Hollywood. Around here folks were pretty cranky up until the sun decided to vacation here for the summer. They perked up a bit. There is some correlation between darker gloomy weather and mood. California did not have much of a spring but then we don't have to worry about drought either. OTOH, folks should be upset. The banksters have made out like bandits and the shit is starting to hit the fan. You just got 1.4 million folks that won't get any more unemployment checks and there's not much in the way of jobs for them. They are ripe to turn into revolutionaries. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
This is what the age of enlightenment looks like --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of mine just got fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted parked among the others at her homa. That is extremely sad news. It's so mean-spirited. Means also they evidently have not changed. It's so sad and cold. The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if you want to serve in the TM-movement. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Theresa Olson needs a tenant
Wanted : Hermit in the House --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Theresa Olson: Hi Everyone! We just found out that our tenant at 2167 Key Blvd wants to break the leasing contract so that she can go out to California. So our home is now for rent! 5 acres, 1 acre pond, ranch with finished basement, 3-4 bedrooms, well water, furnished, central heat/ac, north facing, quiet, pet friendly. No smokers. Contact me at mailto:theresaolson...@... theresaolson...@... Available in two weeks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: When Religion grows in Age
I guess when one quotes someone with Lama in front of it, then it can't be questioned. Nice move --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Topics covered will include: Gnosticism, Mary Magdalene, the Cult of the Feminine, the First Gnostics, the Roman Catholic Church and Gnosticism, the Cathars, and the Knights Templar. When religion grows in age, faith turns into dogma, and experience is replaced by book- knowledge, virtue by adherence to rules, devotion by ritual, meditation by metaphysical speculation. The time is then ripe for a rediscovery of truth and a fresh attempt to give it expression in life. -Lama Govinda In Fairfield, a very thoughtful presentation on gnosticism and independent groups in christian history. I went last weekend. Was very nicely done. Is based on a European touring trip of sites. Nice slides of locations. -Buck Subject: Wed. June 23 Div.Mother in Early Christianity Divine Mother in Early Christianity Wed. June 23 Wed. evening is at 7:15 p.m. Rev.Connie Huebner and Dr.Christian Tourrenne Friends, We have added an additional date for our presentation so those of you who cannot make it Saturdays can still attend. Wed. June 23 at 7:15 p.m. Because of the slide presentation, historical perspective, and time for questions, we have allotted an extra half hour on Sat. morning. Hope you can make it, it will be very illuminating! You may know that Christian and I recently traveled to southern France in search of Divine Mother in the early Christian Church. We will be presenting our experience and discoveries of her powerful presence there. The Divine Mother was often hidden in the early church. As political forces battled for supremacy in Europe, the teachings of the original followers of Jesus were lost. However, The presence of Divine Mother can still be found and the Knowledge revealed. The class will feature the history, knowledge, and experience of the Divine Mother in Christianity. This class will include a musical slide show, an historical presentation on early Christianity, and experiences of Divine Mother Knowledge. Topics covered will include: Gnosticism, Mary Magdalene, the Cult of the Feminine, the First Gnostics, the Roman Catholic Church and Gnosticism, the Cathars, and the Knights Templar. Teleconference Participants take note! Register in advance so we can send you the power point slide presentation to view on your computer as we go through it here. Email us your registration and pre-pay on-line to receive the slide show. Advance registration preferred for everyone so we know how many to plan for. Just email back to register. Date: Saturday, June 19, Wed. June 23 Time: 10:00 a.m. - 12:15 p.m. Central Time (Please adjust for your time zone.) Location: in Fairfield, at Divine Mother Church, 51 N. Court, at the back of the building, the entrance on the alley, or call the conference center at our NEW NUMBER - 217-258-5588 Access code - 9332#. Fee: $20.00 Please make checks payable to Transformational Prayer and mail to P.O. Box 2424, Fairfield, IA 52556, or pay at our website with PayPal: www.transformationalprayer.com Connie Huebner
[FairfieldLife] Re: When Religion grows in Age
Funny thing about that cool word Gnosticism, it never got a change to grow in age, it went straight to book knowledge as it died out very quickly. But that's what's neat and esoteric about it, a minor cult that has grown with age to be studied as a relic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Topics covered will include: Gnosticism, Mary Magdalene, the Cult of the Feminine, the First Gnostics, the Roman Catholic Church and Gnosticism, the Cathars, and the Knights Templar. When religion grows in age, faith turns into dogma, and experience is replaced by book- knowledge, virtue by adherence to rules, devotion by ritual, meditation by metaphysical speculation. The time is then ripe for a rediscovery of truth and a fresh attempt to give it expression in life. -Lama Govinda In Fairfield, a very thoughtful presentation on gnosticism and independent groups in christian history. I went last weekend. Was very nicely done. Is based on a European touring trip of sites. Nice slides of locations. -Buck Subject: Wed. June 23 Div.Mother in Early Christianity Divine Mother in Early Christianity Wed. June 23 Wed. evening is at 7:15 p.m. Rev.Connie Huebner and Dr.Christian Tourrenne Friends, We have added an additional date for our presentation so those of you who cannot make it Saturdays can still attend. Wed. June 23 at 7:15 p.m. Because of the slide presentation, historical perspective, and time for questions, we have allotted an extra half hour on Sat. morning. Hope you can make it, it will be very illuminating! You may know that Christian and I recently traveled to southern France in search of Divine Mother in the early Christian Church. We will be presenting our experience and discoveries of her powerful presence there. The Divine Mother was often hidden in the early church. As political forces battled for supremacy in Europe, the teachings of the original followers of Jesus were lost. However, The presence of Divine Mother can still be found and the Knowledge revealed. The class will feature the history, knowledge, and experience of the Divine Mother in Christianity. This class will include a musical slide show, an historical presentation on early Christianity, and experiences of Divine Mother Knowledge. Topics covered will include: Gnosticism, Mary Magdalene, the Cult of the Feminine, the First Gnostics, the Roman Catholic Church and Gnosticism, the Cathars, and the Knights Templar. Teleconference Participants take note! Register in advance so we can send you the power point slide presentation to view on your computer as we go through it here. Email us your registration and pre-pay on-line to receive the slide show. Advance registration preferred for everyone so we know how many to plan for. Just email back to register. Date: Saturday, June 19, Wed. June 23 Time: 10:00 a.m. - 12:15 p.m. Central Time (Please adjust for your time zone.) Location: in Fairfield, at Divine Mother Church, 51 N. Court, at the back of the building, the entrance on the alley, or call the conference center at our NEW NUMBER - 217-258-5588 Access code - 9332#. Fee: $20.00 Please make checks payable to Transformational Prayer and mail to P.O. Box 2424, Fairfield, IA 52556, or pay at our website with PayPal: www.transformationalprayer.com Connie Huebner
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
Comparing the great Battle Hymn of the Republic to teaching Jihad, martyrdom, and glory of death as an end to itself to young children is a true sign of a broken moral compass. I can't make this up --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Oooof. Slam-dunk. As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (And damn, it's such a wonderful tune...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc108@ wrote: Peace is much better to deal with. Children were being taught this song and spread word of mouth in the 1800's. I remember singing this song in school, taught by the public school system of America. : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic Lyrics Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: His truth is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on. I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps, They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps: His day is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His day is marching on. I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel, Since God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Since God is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! While God is marching on. He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succour to the brave, So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave, Our God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on. From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 6:48:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing . No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr You think this is typical propaganda? This is systematic brainwashing of the most hideous/evil kind. To children! Feeling sorry will not cut it. It needs to be stopped, otherwise, feel sorry for the ones who will be torn to bits and murdered by these same children who grow up to be suicide bombers. Otherwise the world will continue to feel sorry and nothing happens and Israel continues to be condemmed by world opinion. Life goes on, and we feel good feeling sorry as if this is enough. It's not --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc108@ wrote: I feel sorry for everyone who falls for propaganda everywhere. From: wgm4u wgm4u@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 12:20:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing . No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: You want to see the early makings of a suicide bomber? Watch and learn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q How sick and misguided and yet, what a great production, great talent, even the song is catchy. I feel sorry for Israel, and the World, for such hate to exist. To think that a (suicide bomber) martyr is God's favorite?, how sick and twisted! Those children are being brainwashed for the sake revenge and material desire for land that will some day vanish like so many snowflakes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
So you think the outcomes were the same, teaching the singing the battle hymn and jihad martyrs song to children? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Comparing the great Battle Hymn of the Republic to teaching Jihad, martyrdom, and glory of death as an end to itself to young children is a true sign of a broken moral compass. The idea of martyrdom is incompatible with the idea of death as an end in itself, so you need to take that part out. The definition of martyrdom is dying for a cause. Let us die to make men free is nothing other than a call to martyrdom. As for a martyr's death being glorious: In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, And this is a call to Jihad, holy war: He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! And bearing in mind that the Battle Hymn is taught to children, you aren't left with a whole lot of difference with which to guide your moral compass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7HJOTVA-t0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hzRSii4Ao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDksUAzTsMfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9diTrarFfIfeature=related I can't make this up You just did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Oooof. Slam-dunk. As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (And damn, it's such a wonderful tune...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc108@ wrote: Peace is much better to deal with. Children were being taught this song and spread word of mouth in the 1800's. I remember singing this song in school, taught by the public school system of America. : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic Lyrics Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: His truth is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on. I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps, They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps: His day is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His day is marching on. I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel, Since God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Since God is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! While God is marching on. He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succour to the brave, So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave, Our God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on. From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 6:48:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing . No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr You think this is typical propaganda? This is systematic brainwashing of the most hideous/evil kind. To children! Feeling sorry will not cut it. It needs to be stopped, otherwise, feel sorry for the ones who will be torn to bits and murdered by these same children who grow up to be suicide bombers. Otherwise the world
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
OK I will give it try. When we learned the Hymn in elementary school ( I did anyway) it was part of music class, one of 5 or 6 classes during the day. Math, english,P.E.,science, etc. We went in, learned the song, sang it and moved on to the next class, with barely a thought to the hymn or music. Now these kids who were on the video, they are immersed in this 24 hours a day, non-stop indoctrination from the time they were born until the end of their lives. You can find comparisons between songs, but the context and outcomes are completely different. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: So you think the outcomes were the same, teaching the singing the battle hymn and jihad martyrs song to children? Rather than trying to guess what you mean by outcomes, could I ask you to be more explicit? (I don't believe I said anything about outcomes.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Comparing the great Battle Hymn of the Republic to teaching Jihad, martyrdom, and glory of death as an end to itself to young children is a true sign of a broken moral compass. The idea of martyrdom is incompatible with the idea of death as an end in itself, so you need to take that part out. The definition of martyrdom is dying for a cause. Let us die to make men free is nothing other than a call to martyrdom. As for a martyr's death being glorious: In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, And this is a call to Jihad, holy war: He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! And bearing in mind that the Battle Hymn is taught to children, you aren't left with a whole lot of difference with which to guide your moral compass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7HJOTVA-t0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hzRSii4Ao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDksUAzTsMfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9diTrarFfIfeature=related I can't make this up You just did. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Oooof. Slam-dunk. As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (And damn, it's such a wonderful tune...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc108@ wrote: Peace is much better to deal with. Children were being taught this song and spread word of mouth in the 1800's. I remember singing this song in school, taught by the public school system of America. : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic Lyrics Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: His truth is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on. I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps, They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps; I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps: His day is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! His day is marching on. I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel, Since God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Since God is marching on. He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! Our God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Our God is marching on. In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, While God is marching on. (Chorus) Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory, glory, hallelujah! Glory
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
On the other hand, it isn't clear to me from the video of the Palestinian kids that they're taking what they're singing and acting out any more seriously than the kids in your elementary school. - Take a closer look you will see kids with white skull caps(Yarmulkes) they are being shot at and the kids fall down dead. These represent Jews in case it's not clear to you. In any case, as ditzyklanmail says, peace is much better to deal with. -That's obvious, no one is willing the face this evil. Apparently no one here is that concerned about a childish video. Btw, how many Palestinian Christians have strapped on explosives and blew themselves in the marketplace? None. So go ahead and think Game, but the battle continues. Left wing Sharia is alive and well --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: OK I will give it try. When we learned the Hymn in elementary school ( I did anyway) it was part of music class, one of 5 or 6 classes during the day. Math, english,P.E.,science, etc. We went in, learned the song, sang it and moved on to the next class, with barely a thought to the hymn or music. Now these kids who were on the video, they are immersed in this 24 hours a day, non-stop indoctrination from the time they were born until the end of their lives. You can find comparisons between songs, but the context and outcomes are completely different. Couple of points: The context is very different indeed. How do you imagine the Battle Hymn would be used with children if this country were in a situation similar to that of the Palestinians? Do you think it's possible American kids would also be immersed in nonstop indoctrination about the glory of dying for freedom? We don't *need* the Battle Hymn to inspire children to take arms against their oppressors when they grow up. (Bag the quibbles, Bhairitu and Edg; you know what I mean.) But we continue to teach it to them anyway. We want to preserve that ethos in case we ever do need it. For that matter, I couldn't say for sure, but I strongly suspect there are fringe religious groups who teach it to their kids as a way of preparing them to resist the purported persecution of Christians. See in particular the last video I linked to. Why on *earth* would anybody teach the Battle Hymn to a 3-year-old if they weren't aiming at indoctrination? And then, of course, many of the kids who have been singing the hymn since childhood grow up and enlist in the armed forces to go fight the infidel and die for freedom in far-off lands. They hate us for our freedoms, after all. On the other hand, it isn't clear to me from the video of the Palestinian kids that they're taking what they're singing and acting out any more seriously than the kids in your elementary school. And what's the evidence that they endure indoctrination 24 hours a day from birth? Are you sure that isn't propaganda with which *you* have been indoctrinated? In any case, as ditzyklanmail says, peace is much better to deal with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: So you think the outcomes were the same, teaching the singing the battle hymn and jihad martyrs song to children? Rather than trying to guess what you mean by outcomes, could I ask you to be more explicit? (I don't believe I said anything about outcomes.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Comparing the great Battle Hymn of the Republic to teaching Jihad, martyrdom, and glory of death as an end to itself to young children is a true sign of a broken moral compass. The idea of martyrdom is incompatible with the idea of death as an end in itself, so you need to take that part out. The definition of martyrdom is dying for a cause. Let us die to make men free is nothing other than a call to martyrdom. As for a martyr's death being glorious: In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, And this is a call to Jihad, holy war: He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! And bearing in mind that the Battle Hymn is taught to children, you aren't left with a whole lot of difference with which to guide your moral compass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7HJOTVA-t0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hzRSii4Ao
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
extent, this confusion is caused by a kind of masochistic self-doubt over our own identity; by the rule of political correctness; by a multiculturalism that forces us to our knees before others; and by a secularism which, irony of ironies, blinds us even when we are confronted by jihadis promoting the most fanatical incarnation of their faith. To abandon Israel to its fate, at this moment of all moments, would merely serve to illustrate how far we have sunk and how inexorable our decline now appears. This cannot be allowed to happen. Motivated by the need to rebuild our own Western values, expressing deep concern about the wave of aggression against Israel, and mindful that Israel's strength is our strength and Israel's weakness is our weakness, I have decided to promote a new Friends of Israel initiative with the help of some prominent people, including David Trimble, Andrew Roberts, John Bolton, Alejandro Toledo (the former President of Peru), Marcello Pera (philosopher and former President of the Italian Senate), Fiamma Nirenstein (the Italian author and politician), the financier Robert Agostinelli and the Catholic intellectual George Weigel. It is not our intention to defend any specific policy or any particular Israeli government. The sponsors of this initiative are certain to disagree at times with decisions taken by Jerusalem. We are democrats, and we believe in diversity. What binds us, however, is our unyielding support for Israel's right to exist and to defend itself. For Western countries to side with those who question Israel's legitimacy, for them to play games in international bodies with Israel's vital security issues, for them to appease those who oppose Western values rather than robustly to stand up in defence of those values, is not only a grave moral mistake, but a strategic error of the first magnitude. Israel is a fundamental part of the West. The West is what it is thanks to its Judeo-Christian roots. If the Jewish element of those roots is upturned and Israel is lost, then we are lost too. Whether we like it or not, our fate is inextricably intertwined. -José María Aznar was prime minister of Spain between 1996 and 2004. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM, wgm4u wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: How sick and misguided and yet, what a great production, great talent, even the song is catchy. I feel sorry for Israel, and the World, for such hate to exist. As you rip shall you sew? I've seen both sides up front. I feel sorry for Israel too. Let's make it up to them by expelling all Israeli spies from the US, taking back the weapons we sold them with our foreign aid and stop their foreign aid payments. They are, after all, the largest welfare bum the US has. Egypt is second, but they need and deserve every penny. Perhaps we should also speak up in the UN about bulldozers where they don't belong, tearing up their neighbors' yards and more. -- The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.-- Liz Taylor
[FairfieldLife] Mirror Mirror on the Wall , Who is the most Invincable of them all?
No this is not a Disney movie, why it's the voice of the Unified Field, his majesty, the one and only, hardest working raja in the kingdom of the Null Set, The Hagetola Ta Da!!! June 9th The birthday of Raja John Hagelin, ringleader of the Rajas, voice of the Unified Field, Maharishi's voice in our time, and Invincible Raja or Invincible America, was celebrated on behalf all the fortunate members of Maharishi's Global Family by Dr Swan and Dr Bevan Morris. Dr Morris reminded us all of Maharishi's highest appreciation of Raja Hagelin on the last occasion Maharishi addressed the group, saying the Invincible Raja of Invincible America is the greatest visionary of the Unified Field. It was a very touching appreciation for Raja Hagelin, who spent his day addressing the medical professors and students of the University of Athens in Greece.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
You think this is typical propaganda? This is systematic brainwashing of the most hideous/evil kind. To children! Feeling sorry will not cut it. It needs to be stopped, otherwise, feel sorry for the ones who will be torn to bits and murdered by these same children who grow up to be suicide bombers. Otherwise the world will continue to feel sorry and nothing happens and Israel continues to be condemmed by world opinion. Life goes on, and we feel good feeling sorry as if this is enough. It's not --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: I feel sorry for everyone who falls for propaganda everywhere. From: wgm4u wg...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 12:20:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing . No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: You want to see the early makings of a suicide bomber? Watch and learn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q How sick and misguided and yet, what a great production, great talent, even the song is catchy. I feel sorry for Israel, and the World, for such hate to exist. To think that a (suicide bomber) martyr is God's favorite?, how sick and twisted! Those children are being brainwashed for the sake revenge and material desire for land that will some day vanish like so many snowflakes.
[FairfieldLife] Video of Muslim children singing ..... No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr
You want to see the early makings of a suicide bomber? Watch and learn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill
So you aren't well informed about conservative thought? That's interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the time from a conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't have time to respond. If I did, I probably wouldn't come up with anything as well-informed as you would. Feel free to skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something, please do. Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill By: Michael http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bios/michael-barone.html Barone Senior Political Analyst June 20, 2010 http://media.washingtonexaminer.com/images/250*157/w.obama.0620.jpg President Barack Obama waves as he exits Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base, Md., on Friday. (Cliff Owen/AP) Thuggery is unattractive. Ineffective thuggery even more so. Which may be one reason so many Americans have been reacting negatively to the response of Barack Obama and his administration to BP's Gulf oil spill. Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would keep his boot on the neck of BP, which brings to mind George Orwell's definition of totalitarianism as a boot stamping on a human face -- forever. Except that Salazar's boot hasn't gotten much in the way of results yet. Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement to Matt Lauer that he was consulting with experts so I know whose ass to kick. Attacking others is a standard campaign tactic when you're in political trouble, and certainly BP, which appears to have taken unwise shortcuts in the Gulf, is an attractive target. But you don't always win arguments that way. The Obama White House gleefully took on Dick Cheney on the issue of terrorist interrogations. It turned out that more Americans agreed with Cheney's stand, despite his low poll numbers, than Obama's. Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month moratorium on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf. This penalizes companies with better safety records than BP's and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent to offshore oil fields abroad. The justification offered was an Interior Department report supposedly peer reviewed by experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering. But it turned out the drafts the experts saw didn't include any recommendation for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than the oil spill and counterproductive to safety. This was blatant dishonesty by the administration, on an Orwellian scale. In defense of a policy that has all the earmarks of mindless panic, that penalizes firms and individuals guilty of no wrongdoing and that will worsen rather than improve our energy situation. Ineffective thuggery. And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act, which bars foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of the Gulf cleanup? The Bush administration promptly waived it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama administration hasn't and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't really any foreign vessels that could help. The more plausible explanation is that this is a sop to the maritime unions, part of the union movement that gave Obama and other Democrats $400 million in the 2008 campaign cycle. It's the Chicago way: Dance with the girl that brung ya. Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's proposal to deploy barges to skim oil from the Gulf's surface. Can't do that until we see if they've got enough life preservers and fire equipment. That inspired blogger Rand Simberg to write a blog post he dated June 1, 1940: The evacuation of British and French troops from the besieged French city of Dunkirk was halted today, over concerns that many of the private vessels that had been deployed for the task were unsafe for troop transport. Finally, the $20 billion escrow fund that Obama pried out of the BP treasury at the White House when he talked for the first time, 57 days after the rig exploded, with BP Chairman Tony Hayward. It's pleasing to think that those injured by BP will be paid off speedily, but House Republican Joe Barton had a point, though an impolitic one, when he called this a shakedown. For there already are laws in place that insure that BP will be held responsible for damages and the company has said it will comply. So what we have is government transferring property from one party, an admittedly unattractive one, to others, not based on pre-existing laws but on decisions by one man, pay czar Kenneth Feinberg. Feinberg gets good reviews from everyone. But the Constitution does not command no person . . . shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law except by the decision of a person as wise and capable as Kenneth Feinberg. The Framers stopped at due process of law. Obama doesn't. If he sees any
[FairfieldLife] Re: No more rabbinical blessings of my cars
Now it's a true Hybrid or shall I say HyBris! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] No more rabbinical blessings of my cars I took possession of my Camry Hybrid today. The most remarkable thing about this Camry is the ride. It's got special shocks and a continuously variable transmission. The CVT makes the ride smooth as silk as their are no lurches forward since the transmission doesn't switch gears. I made one mistake after I took the Camry home. I wanted it to have an appropriate blessing. A Jewish friend of mine suggested that his rabbi would be optimal. I fell for it. The rabbi walked around the car chanting while he bowed up and down. Then in a flash he pulled out a hacksaw and cut a few inches off the tail pipe. LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield
I'm sure whatever Bevin bloviates on will be greeted as typical tone deafness. Why change now? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: I used to love those types of meetings where something new and exciting was going to come out and everyone was going to experience something beyond anything they ever imagined. The nostalgia was indescribable. A, those were the days! seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Is this going to be THE announcment? The announcement about the fiscal crisis and how we all must JUST MUST do something now now now? Did Girish miss a car payment? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Special Meeting, especially not for just meditators. Special Meeting with Dr. Bevan Morris Invincible America Assembly participants and all those dedicated to group program are warmly invited to meet with Dr. Bevan Morris for news and inspiration. Sunday, June 20 at 1:30 pm Dalby Hall in the Argiro Student Center Jai Guru Dev Please bring your current program badge.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meeting with Dr. Bevan Morris, Sunday, 1:30 PM
Jerry Jarvis graciously meets all comers to his meditator /TMmovement meetings to his credit. - Jerry does this because he is a decent kind person, something that doesn't come naturally to prime ministers, who prefer power and grandiosity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Meeting with Dr. Bevan Morris--Clarification We just wanted everyone to know that the meeting with Dr. Morris on Sunday, June 20 at 1:30 pm in Dalby Hall is for the entire Super Radiance community. That is a hopeful amendment given the others in the Mmovement who meet and teach all comers. Bevan in his unique place in the 20th century could become a great spiritual lecturer, possibly more than he is known otherwise as the bully administrator. Is nice though that 'they' re-thought the original announcement. Jerry Jarvis graciously meets all comers to his meditator /TMmovement meetings to his credit. This last week was amazing to watch the patience of Karunamayi, meditating with people here taking all manner of spiritual question and concern. Was pretty incredible to have a sat guru come through from the other side of the planet and just sit with people here. The jagat guru visit. Bevan could become something else from what he has been.possibly may have to give some things up to do it. However, this last switch of coming back and softening the 'invite' is an interesting switch in the tectonic plates of the TMmovement culture. Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck Hi Dick, What did you mean before? and all those dedicated to group program. Even those of us who do not have current badges? Just community Meditators? TSR? Even old-time meditators supportive of the group program but themselves without badges who could not themselves git into the domes? To hear Bevan? Interested people? Just wondering. Best Regards, -Buck in ff (For those who already had plans to spend Father's Day with their families, we understand that they may not be able to come.) Om, as in, Bevan won't hold it again some folks if they don't come?
[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow has a moment during election night
http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0510/Maddows_Matthews_Moment.html
[FairfieldLife] It has to be Heaven on Earth Now, Right?
http://article.nationalreview.com/434452/the-technocrats-new-clothes/victor-davis-hanson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Equality in America
No worries, Obama is working tirelessly ( personally made $5million last year-good for him) to make sure the white folk's wealth is dramatically cut, re-distribution is working miracles these days. Equality will overthrow Liberty soon. Happy Days!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: White Families Now $95K Richer Than African-American Families On Average, According To New Study http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/18/racial-wealth-gap-whites_n_580589.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim Carrey on Awakening
Here is my advice to all actors- Shut up and Act! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIaY0l5qV0cfeature=related Yes sir, 'a little of this Yoga delivers from great fear'. -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
And you consider your side to be nuanced? WillyTex has it correct,some Christians believe this, however, by and large most do not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Mike Dixon: ...it sure makes more since than the Replacement theology taught for so long, which would make God a liar in his own words. As for what anybody chooses to believe, that's their business, not mine. do.rflex: 'My' understanding from the Christian fundamentalists is generally that anyone who doesn't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, is headed for the...'Lake of Fire' described in the Book of Revelation. Replacement theology teaches that the Church has replaced Israel. But, the majority of Evangelical Christians do not ascribe to 'replacement theology'. In Romans 9, Chapter 11, Paul writes that God has not cast away Israel.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Zen Of Hard Work
Hard work is ennobling. Good job --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: So tomorrow is the final release candidate build for the product I've been working on. And it's been a bit of a nightmare release, in which the developers basically reinvented the entire infrastructure and philosophy of the product. Because hubris runs high (and somewhat deservedly) among this particular set of developers, they always overestimate what they can squeeze into the release and underestimate how long it will take them to do so. This means that Documentation bites the big one. I won't go into the particulars, but suffice it to say that I've worked 191 hours over the last two weeks. Not hardly yer average French 35-hour workweek. But I finished. Praise the Lord and pass the Lagavulin. I have never missed a software deadline. Not once, in almost 30 years in the business. I just do DO missing deadlines, or causing them to slip. Writing documentation is a service profession, like waiting tables or fixing other people's cars. Only trouble is, writing doc has been likened to Trying to fix a tire on a moving car. The software keeps changing, as you're trying to write the definitive guide to what it is, what it looks like, and how to use it. It would drive a lesser man crazy. No comments here, please. :-) And the funny thing is, it was a heckuva ride, and a heckuva lot of fun. I really GET OFF on doing a good job. Whatever you may think of him or say of him, I owe a lot of this 'tude about work to Rama, Dr. Frederick Lenz. Dude taught me that hard work was the next best thing to samadhi. And that if you do your work well enough, it can actually lead to samadhi. Your work becomes, in essence, your Way. Some people make a distinction between their work lives and their spiritual lives. They have what they call Day Jobs. I have a Way Job.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Who cares what they say about the Jews, it's how they act towards the Jews and Israel and they do a damn better job than you!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
Al-Jazeerah, really? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. - You mean you abhor toughness, that's a personal issue I guess If you watched the videos I posted in response to yours, and you call that toughness -- as in being a good thing -- you have pretty much confirmed all of my points. Thanks -- you have made your position abundantly clear for all to see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
My propaganda is better than yours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUxzISr9Us --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. - You mean you abhor toughness, that's a personal issue I guess If you watched the videos I posted in response to yours, and you call that toughness -- as in being a good thing -- you have pretty much confirmed all of my points. Thanks -- you have made your position abundantly clear for all to see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
You might like this article by Dennis Prager on the Genesis prediction and Israel and why conservative christians believe in a strong Israel: http://tiny.cc/pxnx5 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: If your question is serious, read the story of Joseph in Genesis. Then substitute Jesus for Joseph and Joseph's brothers for the Jewish people, (really the Pharisees). Many students of prophecy believe that the Old Testament is the truth concealed and the New Testament is the Truth revealed. Both stories parallel each other very closely. Example, Joseph is sold into slavery by his jealous brothers for 30 pieces of silver. Joseph is falsely accused and thrown in prison but rises up to sit at the right hand of Pharaoh. Joseph's brothers realize and confess their sin against their father and brother. Joseph forgives them, seeing the greater divine plan, then brings his whole family into Egypt, saving them from famine and death, where they enjoy great prosperity. From: do.rflex do.rf...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 3:52:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
Of course you want to see Israel and the Jews thrive and prosper --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: The fate of the Jews: Uri Avnery, is the leader of Gush Shalom, an Israeli peace group. He was discussing the theology of many Fundamentalist and other Evangelical Christians in a 2002-JUN essay, and wrote: According to its theological beliefs, the Jews must congregate in Palestine and establish a Jewish state on all its territory so as to make the Second Coming of Jesus Christ possible... the evangelists don't like to dwell openly on what comes next: before the coming [of the Messiah], the Jews must convert to Christianity. Those who don't will perish in a gigantic holocaust in the battle of Armageddon. This is basically an anti-Semitic teaching... 1 This teaching implies that Jews who remain true to God's covenants in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) will be all exterminated in a massive genocide that may be more numerous than the Nazi Holocaust. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_isra.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: You might like this article by Dennis Prager on the Genesis prediction and Israel and why conservative christians believe in a strong Israel: http://tiny.cc/pxnx5 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: If your question is serious, read the story of Joseph in Genesis. Then substitute Jesus for Joseph and Joseph's brothers for the Jewish people, (really the Pharisees). Many students of prophecy believe that the Old Testament is the truth concealed and the New Testament is the Truth revealed. Both stories parallel each other very closely. Example, Joseph is sold into slavery by his jealous brothers for 30 pieces of silver. Joseph is falsely accused and thrown in prison but rises up to sit at the right hand of Pharaoh. Joseph's brothers realize and confess their sin against their father and brother. Joseph forgives them, seeing the greater divine plan, then brings his whole family into Egypt, saving them from famine and death, where they enjoy great prosperity. From: do.rflex do.rflex@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 3:52:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Jerusalem Forever
I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
sounds about right --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
That's it? LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. My ancestors build and lived in one of the oldest castles in Europe, stretcch back more than 1000 years. We toiled hard, built our homeland. And through absolutely no fault of our own, we are always the victims, we one by one we were force to leave the castle. But every Christmas, while praying to our saviour and (and only true) lord who blessed us and made us f'ing better than all others, we said next year back at the castle. So last week, when we took the castle by force. sorry about the 500,000 dead -- it was collateral damage, we came HOME. It felt F'ing good. A 1000 year pilgramige back to the land that was deemed eternally OURS by our one true god. So F you world. We got ours, and we will beat the holy shit out of anyone who even thinks that we are not totally righteous -- and huge victims, simply claiming what is eternally our f'ing stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. - You mean you abhor toughness, that's a personal issue I guess --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Gov. Rick Perry blames God for oil leak
Really? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: It's probably the fault of gay oilmen and fishermen. Or maybe gay whales.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Gov. Rick Perry blames God for oil leak
Me too! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sgrayatlarge Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 9:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Texas Gov. Rick Perry blames God for oil leak Really? Kidding. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: It's probably the fault of gay oilmen and fishermen. Or maybe gay whales.
[FairfieldLife] Bloomberg speculates that Times Square car bombing because of health care bill
Michael Bloomberg agreed the Times Square car bombing was likely homegrown as he proceeded, in an interview excerpt run on Monday's CBS Evening News, to speculate it could have been placed by somebody with a political agenda who doesn't like the health care bill or something. It could be anything. That's right Mike, Fiasal Shahzad did it because of government takeover of health care, certainly not because of any terrorist radical jihadist agenda. Hey this shows that the Tea Party movement is much more racially inclusive than originally thought. That's right keep living in denial, New York you are in good hands with Mike I'm sure this will generate greater interest in having the KSM trial in NYC as Eric Holder sees no danger of terrorist attacks, well as long as tee shirt vendors are doing Homeland Securities job we should be fine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Teabaggers not as concerned with civil liberties
and the problem is? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Two-thirds of supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement believe the government should be able to tap people's phone conversations and profile people based on race or religion, according to a new poll from the University of Washington. Our survey suggests that among tea partiers, there's less dedication to certain civil liberties, Christopher S. Parker, a UW assistant professor of political science who leads the 2010 Multi-State Survey of Race Politics, said in a statement. The survey of more than 1,000 people took place in seven states, UW said. Six of them - Georgia, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina and Ohio - were battleground states in the 2008 presidential election. The seventh, California, was included to represent the West Coast, the school said in a news release. The telephone poll was taken Feb. 8-15. The margin of error was 3.1 percent. http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/203424.asp
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra Blames Own Meditation for Baja Quake - AOL News
Deepak believes he is non local (loco?) and fancies himself enlightened, so I'm sure he honestly thought that right after his meditation, the earthquake happened, he was the cause because he is all. At least he didn't say something good is happening --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/chopra-blames-own-meditation-for-baja- quake/19426755?sms_ss=email Chopra Blames Own Meditation for Baja Quake This is part of his game. He makes it seem as if he is mocking the idea that his meditation could cause a quake to attempt rapport with people who don't share his actual belief that in fact his meditation does effect (affect) the environment. It is a way to mask the hubris of his true beliefs. He almost sounds like he has some common sense about the limits of his personal power. Actually, I think he was mocking people like you, Curtis, right down to your propensity to make something sinister out of a self-deprecating gag. If he says he believes he can cause an earthquake by meditating, that's hubris. If he says he *doesn't* believe he can cause an earthquake by meditating--why, that's hubris too! And how *dare* he have a sense of humor about himself? That's the *ultimate* in hubris.
[FairfieldLife] Bret Stephens asks what's the next panic ? Any ideas?
What's the Next 'Global Warming'? Herewith I propose a contest to invent the next panic.By BRET STEPHENS So global warming is dead, nailed into its coffin one devastating disclosure, defection and re-evaluation at a time. Which means that pretty soon we're going to need another apocalyptic scare to take its place. As recently as October, the Guardian reported that scientists at Cambridge had concluded that the Arctic is now melting at such a rate that it will be largely ice free within ten years. This was supposedly due to global warming. It brought with it the usual lamentations for the grandchildren. But in March came another report in the Guardian, this time based on the research of Japanese scientists, that much of the record breaking loss of ice in the Arctic ocean in recent years is [due] to the region's swirling winds and is not a direct result of global warming. It also turns out that the extent of Arctic sea ice in March was around the recorded average, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. The difference between the two stories has little to do with science: There were plenty of reasons back in October to suspect that the Arctic ice panicbased on data that only goes back to 1979was as implausible as the now debunked claim about disappearing Himalayan glaciers. But thanks to Climategate and the Copenhagen fiasco, the media are now picking up the kinds of stories they previously thought it easier and wiser to ignore. This is happening internationally. In France, a book titled L'imposture climatique is a runaway bestseller: Its author, Claude Allègre, is one of the country's most acclaimed scientists and a former minister of education in a Socialist government. In Britain, environmentalist patron saint James Lovelock now tells the BBC he suspects climate scientists have [fudged] the data and that if the planet is going to be saved, it will save itself, as it always has done. In Germany, the leftish Der Spiegel devotes 15 pages to a deliciously detailed account of scientists who want to be politicians, the curious inconsistencies in the temperature record, the sloppy work of the U.N.'s climate-change panel and sundry other sins of modern climatology. As for the United States, Gallup reports that global warming now ranks sixth on the list of Americans' top 10 environmental concerns. My wager is that within a few years climate change will exercise global nerves about as much as overpopulation, toxic tampons, nuclear winters, ozone holes, killer bees, low sperm counts, genetically modified foods and mad cows do today. Something is going to have to take its place. The world is now several decades into the era of environmental panic. The subject of the panic changes every few years, but the basic ingredients tend to remain fairly constant. A trend, a hypothesis, an invention or a discovery disturbs the sense of global equilibrium. Often the agent of distress is undetectable to the senses, like a malign spirit. A villaininvariably corporate and right-wingis identified. Then money begins to flow toward grant-seeking institutions and bureaucracies, which have an interest in raising the level of alarm. Environmentalists counsel their version of virtue, typically some quasi-totalitarian demands on the pattern of human behavior. Politicians assemble expert panels and propose sweeping and expensive legislation. Eventually, the problem vanishes. Few people stop to consider that perhaps it wasn't such a crisis in the first place. This is what's called eschatologya belief, or psychology, that we are approaching the End Time. Religions have always found a way to take account of those beliefs, but today's secular panics are unmoored by spiritual consolations or valid moral injunctions. Instead, we have the modern-day equivalent of the old Catholic indulgence in the form of carbon credits. It's how Al Gore justifies his utility bills. Given the inescapability of weather, it's no wonder global warming gripped the public mind as long as it did. And there's always some extreme-weather event happening somewhere to be offered as further evidence of impending catastrophe. But even weather gets boring, and so do the people who natter about it incessantly. What this decade requires is a new and better panic. Herewith, then, I propose a readers' contest to invent the next panic. It must involve something ubiquitous, invisible to the naked eye, and preferably mass-produced. And the solution must require taxes, regulation, and other changes to civilization as we know it. The winner gets a beer and a burger, on me, at the 47th street Pig N' Whistle in New York City. (Nachos for vegetarians.) Happy panicking!
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
So you see it as economic class stuggle, out of a certain shall I say non-capitalist playbook. Look we see things differently --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: It was not a projection. I called you a dummy because you don't seem to know history. The history of this country from it's inception has been a battle between a bunch of materialistic fools who though it was their divine right to rule and an intellectual minority that didn't care to accumulate a lot of property (which is a responsibility) or to rule over other (also a responsibility). It therefore is a product of nature. The intellectual set will only take so much from the materialists and then it is war. To the intellectual set the materialists all look like a bunch of vain fools and dangerous ones at that. We have seen what they do to the world and don't like it. If you don't like my criticism then tough shit. sgrayatlarge wrote: This will do Bhairitu Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! Accusing me of dummy like behavior when I expressed my opinion is pushing it and I can only come up with the conclusion of projection. You are not my parent, so knock it off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? Let's see what will happen this November --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court for about eight years - and almost succeeded in destroying the US economy and creating another catastrophic global Great Depression. I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to vote those sorry fucks back into power any time soon. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Leaving Arafat completely out of it, it WAS, after all, Carter who successfully negotiated the hostage release with Iran, not Reagan. SEE: How Hostage Pact Was Forged: Turning Point in September http://www.nytimes.com/1981/01/28/washington/19810128iran.html?pagewanted=all Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left You've been watching too much Glenn Beck. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Excellent article, Rick. I doubt the right wingers here will even read it. The title you gave it says it all: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The article Rick posted So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA can be found here: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/033110.html [snip to end for brevity]
[FairfieldLife] This is what happens when no one takes our Presidents' foreign policy seriously
Putin deepens ties with Chavez on Venezuela visit Apr 2 03:19 PM US/Eastern By FABIOLA SANCHEZ Associated Press Writer CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Russia has offered to help Venezuela set up its own space industry, including a satellite launch site, as Prime Minister Vladimir Putin made his first visit to the South American country on Friday. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced the offer by Russia hours before Putin arrived, saying officials would discuss the possibility of setting up a satellite launcher and a factory. Russia offers help so that Venezuela can have its own industry for the use of its outer space, Chavez said Thursday night. He didn't give details or say how much that might cost. The two countries are also discussing new weapons deals, Chavez said in televised remarks, without giving details. Chavez's government has already bought more than $4 billion in Russian weapons since 2005, including helicopters, fighter jets and 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles. Chavez said last year that Russia agreed to loan Venezuela up to $2.2 billion for additional arms deals. Russian and Venezuelan officials said they planned to sign new agreements for energy projects in Venezuela, as well as industrial, commercial and agriculture projects. Chavez also reiterated that Russia will help Venezuela develop nuclear energya plan he has mentioned previously that has yet to take shape. We aren't going to make an atomic bomb, but we are going to develop atomic energy with peaceful aims, he said. Chavez, whose country is a major oil exporter and OPEC member, says we have to prepare ourselves for the post-oil era. Venezuela also intends to buy two Beriev Be-200 amphibious planes, which are used for dousing blazes, Chavez said. Fires in El Avila national park in the mountains above Caracas have at times blanketed the city with a smoky haze in recent days. Chavez has grown increasingly close to Russia, Iran and China while fiercely criticizing U.S. policies, and his calls for countering U.S. influence to create a multi-polar world have found resonance in Moscow. The U.S. State Department poked fun at Chavez's suggestion that Venezuela may set up a space industry with Russian help. We would note that the government of Venezuela was largely closed this week due to energy shortages, spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters. To the extent that Venezuela is going to expend resources on behalf of its people, perhaps the focus should be more terrestrial than extraterrestrial. Worsening electricity shortages prompted Chavez's government to decree public holidays throughout this week to save energy. A severe drought has pushed water levels to precarious lows in the dam that supplies most of Venezuela's electricity. Political analysts in Moscow say Russia is drawn to Venezuela because of the its anti-U.S. rhetoric, though business deals have helped cement the growing relationship. The only thing that really unites Russia and Venezuela is that they don't want to see a unipolar world, dominated by the U.S., said Sergei Mikheyev, an analyst at the Center for Political Technologies, adding that President Barack Obama's administration hasn't done enough to lure Moscow away from Caracas. Obama says he is committed to a reset of the U.S. relationship with Russia, but Mikheyev said the Americans haven't compromised with Russia on any significant issue ... so it makes no sense for them (the Russians) to change priorities. Mikheyev noted that the United States has so far failed to react to Russia's plea to cut drug traffic from Afghanistan to Russia's Central Asian borders. Russia has also spent years trying to convince the U.S. to scrap Cold War measures that have restricted U.S.-Russia trade. Venezuela is also a very lucrative arms and technology market, and Mikheyev said without the business involved, the anti-American rhetoric wouldn't be enough to unite Russia and Venezuela. Venezuela and Russia announced a joint venture earlier this week to drill for and process heavy crude oil in eastern Venezuela, saying they expect to start producing 50,000 barrels a day this year and to build an upgrader facility to eventually process about 450,000 barrels a daygiving a significant boost to Venezuela's oil output. As part of Putin's visit, he and Chavez toured the Russian tall ship Kruzenshtern, which is docked in Venezuela on a visit. Chavez chatted with Russian sailors through an interpreter and presented a copy of a sword used by South American independence hero Simon Bolivar, telling Putin he would show him the real sword used by Bolivarthe namesake of Chavez's socialist-inspired Bolivarian Revolution. Putin also visited Bolivar's tomb in Caracas before holding talks in private at the presidential palace.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The status quo of Liberal Fascism? Have you checked out the left's answer to the Tea Party? The Coffee Party? Speaking of status quo, here is their mission statement: COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them. I wonder if they would have written this during the Bush years? Cooperate with Government? Ha? Sounds like if one doesn't support the government in a positive way, they will be help accountable. I remember just a few years ago seeing bumper stickers all over the place that read Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism Sounds like a soft form of tyranny to me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: The ONLY time I've ever watched Glenn Beck was when I knew he was going to do a segment on fascism and how it exists on both the right and left (I agree with that). But his bottom line was: keep the status quo. Probably most of his viewers are too dumb to see that though. He just wants to keep ol' Rupert in power and the grand master feudal landlord. Don't hold your breathe for November. sgrayatlarge wrote: No,Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning- Jonah Goldbert, I highly recommend this book that indeed Beck and others borrow liberally from. Btw, do you watch Beck? Pretty entertaining isn't he? Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Wasn't it also Carter the one who ingnited the whole Jihadi movement with his expert handling of the Iranian hostage crisis? Let's see what will happen this November --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) I'm glad you mentioned Glenn Beck because he essentially speaks for people like you. His approach is an example of the kind of grossly distorted right wing propaganda that appeals to people's base fears and whom the right wing depends on to rally an agitated radical voter base. Too bad in reality Glenn Beck is merely an obscenely high paid snake oil salesman putting on a bizarre exaggeration of the typical right wing BE AFRAID act for the American people still stupid enough to fall for it: - Glenn Beck EXPOSED - Crying On Cue Using Vicks VapoRub under His Eyes - Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. No. Parry refers to a huge organized operation of 'baddies' far more extensive than just the evil Bush lovers. He's talking about a whole orchestrated political machinery. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. That sounds very much to me like unsupported sore loser right wing whining. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. Yes. That's the kind of mentality in denial that Parry is describing. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Apparently the sore loser right wingers can't accept the fact that the American people threw their sorry asses out of power in the last two national elections. They seem to think that Republican conservatism is the only legitimate government possible and are clearly unwilling to function cooperatively within a two Party system. Their only intent is to destroy Democrats and get back into power, just like Parry described. They had their chance with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican White House and a majority right wing Supreme Court
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
Btw, didn't the classical Tantra period start around 600-800 AD? Smacks of feudalism to me --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
The Arafat reference were towards the end of the article, and if my biases are that apparent then it is what it is. Perhaps others will comment on other parts of Parry's article. I may not be that familiar with Parry, however, I didn't see much new ground covered. I didn't realize you knew so much about the tea party. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Thanks Turq, you have a way with words. I'm about as redneck as Charlie Lutes used to be. Politically, Charlie always struck me as about as redneck as they come. So I'll take that as a big Yes. :-) Yes,I am a Zionist, not all Jews are but you can label me that. It's been obvious from some of your posts. If you're comfortable with the label, and with the mindset, so be it. Some class Zionists lower than Glenn Beck viewers. :-) As far as the teabag chin reference, well that is going a bit too far, but I support the tea party. I don't think it's going too far to remind the people who appropriated the term teabagging what it really means. It means 1) dipping your nutsack in a sexual partner's mouth, or 2) dangling said nutsack on his/her chin while getting a BJ. Since the Tea Party seems to be all about sucking up (in every sense of the term) to money and those who have it, I commend them on their choice of name. I'm just wondering where you're at, dude. You berate Bharitu thusly: when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity But what is *your* rant below? You stop reading the moment you see the name Arafat, and then spend the rest of your rant ignoring any of the points Robert might have made, and respond only by personally attacking a person whose work you clearly have no knowledge of. What kind of insularity are *you* defining, eh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I've been trying to figure out who/what sgrayatlarge is for some time now, based on his posts here and the things that seem to push his buttons. The best I can come up with is that he appears to be a Zionist redneck with teabag stains on his chin. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Robert Parry is a American investigative journalist If that is the case why does he only investigate the right wing? A pretty selective journalistic approach, oh but I know why he does this, because since he is on the left and the left never apologizes for anything, and the fact that all left think that conservatives, Republicans, right wing Beck types are inherintly evil (right Flex?) it's really a natural to claim the title of American Investigative Journalist, because in Parry's mind the only baddies out there are the evil Bush lovers. Frankly it's incredibly pathetic and yet the left haven't a clue, since they live in such an insular world where everything thinks the same way and demonize the pitiful right. So when I read a Robert Parry who seems to be worshipped, we on the right laugh and will fight you at every step of the way. What does Obama keep saying (apparently he can't answer a question in under 17 minutes these days) Bring it on ? Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. Good luck to the Robert Parry's of the world and please keep quoting Arafat. Their is a reason why Fascism started on the left
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
I've seen that picture as well Rick, including aids with cigarettes. In 1977 on a conference with MMY during the summer siddhis course he called out the CIA on the actual phone call. Were on that call Rick? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Didn't Carter go after the TM movement? Sending spies? I used to hear MMY complaining about that a lot in the late 70's. Can you back that up that wacko claim? I can. Carter was a religious fundamentalist who had met with MMY while governor of Georgia. There used to be a photo of the meeting floating around. Allegedly, he was on his knees praying before the meeting. My sense was that he was praying for protection, but who knows? Anyway, during his presidential campaign, he told someone close to him that should he win, he'd do everything in his power to interfere with the TM movement. The person he said that to relayed the conversation to Dr. Margaret Brenman-Gibson, wife of playwright William Gibson (The Miracle Worker), who attended TTC in Mallorca. She used to speak at TM conferences and go to residence courses and I got to know her. She told me what Carter's aid (or whoever he was) had told her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA
This will do Bhairitu Psychological projection or projection bias (including Freudian Projection) is the unconscious act of denial of a person's own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, the government, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings. You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! Accusing me of dummy like behavior when I expressed my opinion is pushing it and I can only come up with the conclusion of projection. You are not my parent, so knock it off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: And your definition of projection is? sgrayatlarge wrote: Again projection --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I am a tantric feudalist? ROTFL! You behave like a dummy you will be called one. You and Willy can't stand the heat in the kitchen and start whining when any of us turn up the heat. Wuus! sgrayatlarge wrote: The Tantric Feudalist proves my point, when in doubt,attack personally. You define insularity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Nah, that's history you dummy. - Reply message - From: sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So-called patriotic Republicans have for over 40 years been the enemies of a democratic USA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Projecting again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: 40 years? How 'bout 234 years? They want their feudal society back. They hate us for our freedom. They will make you choose between violence or slavery. Which do you choose? Rick Archer wrote: The following MUST-READ overview is from one of our nation's finest investigative journalists, Robert Parry, and well-describes a chillingly corrupt and profoundly ANTI-DEMOCRATIC movement spawned by fanatic sore losers among the hard right-wing of this country (a right-wing that is terribly and injuriously WRONG on all the major issues of our era, making our nation the worse for it). snip
[FairfieldLife] Bravo Dem Rep Hank Johnson!!!
You have turned science and geology on it's head yesterday (not April 1st) with your deep probing on the physical make up of the island- Guam and whether it can really hold up to the additional of 8,000 Marines and family that are going to be stationed there. I see a Nobel Prize in your future Democrat Johnson. How much do you make a year? $174,000? The state of Georgia and the really the world owes you a debt of gratitude for hitting just the right tone and I'm sure the Admiral will never forget you. begin and enjoy Your morning jolt: Hank Johnson and a `capsizing' Guam 8:51 am April 1, 2010, by Jim Galloway Unfortunately, we can't say the video below is an April Fool's Day prank. Last Thursday morning, at a House Armed Services Committee meeting, U.S. Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Decatur) was questioning Robert Willard, commander of the U.S. fleet in the Pacific, about the impact of more American troops on the tiny, tiny island of Guam. Johnson went into tortuous detail about just how tiny Guam is. And then he said this: My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. Now, possibly, Johnson is a tremendous deadpan when it comes to hyperbole. We don't know. Neither did the admiral, who played it straight: We don't anticipate that. The Guam population, I think, currently about 175,000, and again, with 8,000 marines and their families, it's an addition of about 25,000 more into the population.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are 15% to 20% of Americans Genuinely and Incurably Stupid?
Let's see how would our sharp as a tack (never plagerize) illustrious VP Joe Biden react to Pizzo's pithy pompousness: This is a f...@ing Big Deal --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Are 15% to 20% of Americans Genuinely, Provably and Incurably Stupid? Can We Talk? by Stephen Pizzo After six and half decades on this planet I've come to some conclusions. One of them is that roughly 15% to 20% of Americans are genuinely, provably and incurably, stupid. And, while beauty may only be skin deep, stupid goes all the way to the bone. After a decade of failed governance -- two unnecessary wars and a ruined economy, Republicans had all but run out of enough moderately-sane voters willing to take any further chances with them. That's when they glommed onto the idea of corralling America's moron-demographic to plug the gap. But the ignorant are hard to sway with fact-based policy discussions or green-eyeshade budget details. They need to be energized with drama, and plenty of it. Maury Povich and Jerry Springer knew that and built their fame and fortunes on knowing how to energize the dumb and dumber among us. It's all about the drama baby... tabloid quality drama is what gets their blood boiling. Allegations, the wilder the better, and the fewer contradicting facts the better. For example, you don't use benign terms like, End of life counseling with the moron-demographic. (Too many of them might just stare back blankly and ask, Ah, why would you want to counsel a dead person?) Maury would advise, Death panels, instead. Death is, of course, the end of life,and we're all going there someday, and as we approach that point of departure I'm sure we and/or our loved ones might appreciate and benefit from some counseling -- including morons. But by calling them Death panels, counseling becomes even scarier than death itself. That's how one gets the moron-blood a-boilin.' Anyway, I've belabored my point more than I had intended. The bottom line is that the GOP, in a desperate bid to regain power, has energized that 15%-20% of genuinely and willfully stupid citizenry. And, if we've learned anything from modern history, from Germany circa 1930s, the former Yugoslavia in the 90's to the genocide in Rwanda during the Clinton years... it's that once you get the moron-demographic energized and they become an angry mob, it's impossible to control them. The early signs of trouble are already there. The ball's rollin' and, unless it stalls and soon, someone(s) going to get killed. Already we are seeing a rash of Kristallnacht-like incidents at Democratic Party offices around the country: .. several Democratic offices around the nation had been vandalized in the days surrounding the House health care vote. Vandals have struck the Tuscon office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), the Monroe County Democratic Committee headquarters in upstate New York, Rep. Louise Slaughter's (D-NY) Niagara Falls office, the Knox County Democratic headquarters in Ohio, and the Sedgwick County Democratic Party headquarters in Wichita, KS. The local Rochester ABC affiliate now has more information on the upstate NY vandalism, including an assassination threat against the children of lawmakers who voted for health reform.No one was inside when the brick was hurled through the Democratic Patry Headquarters on University Avenue. Attached was a note quoting conservative Barry Goldwater: Exremism [sic] in defense of liberty is no vice. [Rep. Louise] Slaughter has been at the center of the push for reform. Last Thursday she received a chilling recorded message at her campaign office. Assassinate is the word they used toward the children of lawmakers who voted yes. The FBI is investigating. In search of a constituency the GOP sowed the wind, and now they, and the rest of us, will reap the whirlwind. I have a new favorite saying. I don't know who said it first, but it applies in spades: It goes like this: Don't tell me what you believe, tell me what you've done and I'll tell you what you believe. Now, it's bad enough for a political party to pander to the lowest common denominators among us, but when a major media outlet decides to jump into that dangerous game, it's really something. Thus the story that follows [concerning CNN hiring a right wing nut job media shill, Erik Erickson.] by Jon Carroll of the San Francisco Chronicle http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/23/DD6S1CIKKC.\ DTL#ixzz0j7QAuUB0 : And CNN gives this right-wing foamer credibility by hiring him. I guess they think he's providing balance, but is it really balance when one participant is willing to accuse a Supreme Court justice of bestiality while the other is willing to accuse a Supreme Court justice of, say, overly strict
[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the master of Idli,dosa and uttapam and you can be too!
Very nice Curtis. When I spent a few months in DC, I also ate at Parus, when in town. Guess what? When I moved to LA in the early 80's guess who also moved there? Parus! Got to know the owners son Kanan over the years, excellent idly, dosas, and sambar. It's a great little restaurant. LA has a bustling Little India as well and their are some places that also make a mean south indian dosa / tali. They all come pretty close to the Saravana Bhavans in Tamil Nadu, the all time champs. Glad you cracked the code Curtis, the Tamil ladies don't share a lot, but you re-engineered the elusive dosa, that's fabulous! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: Certain foods have been a holy grail quest for me. Ever since I ate the best idli I have ever had at the vegetarian Parus restaurant near Dupont Circle and the Leroy Place TM center 25 years ago I have been on a mission to replicate their sour fluffy perfection. The South Indian lady who ran Parus taught me a lot. She was a generous spirit. I learned from her how to toast coriander seeds before grinding them and to toast coconut shreds to make great tur dahl sambar. I learned how to roast and brown uncooked urid dahl and use it as a flavoring in coconut chutney from her. But no matter how much she taught me about making idli my results were mediocre. Not so bad, better than most restaurants, but not like hers. I have made it from scratch (soaking and then grinding rice and dahl separately is very imprecise so the texture suffers) and from mixes. Along the way talking to Indian women I learned to mix yogurt into the quick idli mixes rather than water which gives it a good sour flavor but the texture is off, too light and poofy. For the last few years I have been buying pre-made fresh batter from an Indian store. It is excellent but not as sour as I like. I finally cracked the code! The thing is that I had to think of Idli batter like sourdough bread. The specific yeast and bacteria in a symbiotic relationship in the air are what make it good bad or great idlis just like sourdough bread. And most natural yeast and bacteria in the air kinda sucks. So I bought some coarsely ground idli rice (2 parts) which takes the guesswork out of grinding and fine ground urid dahl (1 part) and I added my San Fransisco sour dough culture (www.sourdo.com sells it)to the batter and voila! Bubbly sour batter that cooks up fluffy and deliciously sour just like I remember them! And if you fry up some veggies including onion and some whole cumin seeds and then pour the batter on top in a fry pan you get perfect Uttapam. Thin it down for dosa. Only someone as food obsessed as I am can appreciate this breakthrough. This is huge. I can sour the batter for a few days to get it exactly how I like it. With the introduced culture taking over there is no fear of spoilage from nasty bacteria. My San Fran yeast and bacteria (actually called Lactobacillus sanfrancisco) take over the bowl in hours. I am publishing this secret here in a sign of good will toward all men and women who know the difference between a good idli and a great one!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chesterton the intolerance of religion
That is one of many teachings in the Bible. It gives some nice advice on keeping slaves too. - Well if you read closely it creates so many outs that it was easier to free a slave than to keep one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So if there is a God he doesn't give a shit about animal's suffering, that is completely obvious. So if their is no God, then the current plight of animal suffering is a natual result of evolution? In either case animals get screwed. I hold suffering caused by another to be worse than naturally occurring suffering. Responsibility comes with the title, right? That is one of the many benefits of getting rid of that last God when you have already decided all the other Gods are myths. Nature's only law is survival of the fittest, Groups of animals take care of their own. That buffers the survival code a bit for those in a group. when one worships nature, then the main pursuit is being the most fit. The New Age Movement is all about who is the healthiest. Health Uber alles!! Hey I slept with nature a few times after a bourbon or two but I don't worship her. I take her calls though. I don't know about the New Age movement but I am sure pro health. I think that should go with or without the God idea. I mean he gave you a temple, why trash the place? The Bible tells humanity to show some kindness and compassion not only the weakest among us, but to animals. That is one of many teachings in the Bible. It gives some nice advice on keeping slaves too. The weak get eaten in the natural world. Why would one want to worship nature? I don't even worship the blues and I have devoted my life to it. Worship is really optional and my be one of those imaginative human ideas that doesn't really hold up too well. It is the kind of word you might hear at a Barbara Steisand concert Oh I absolutely adore Babs, don't you Zelda? Nature is like a low maintenance girlfriend who doesn't require worship like your demanding, worship-needed, high maintenance EX-girlfriend (God). With nature you don't have to dress up and can sit by some body of water and watch the sun set. With my EX, this was never good enough, you had to put on a suit, drive in traffic into DC, drive around for hours for parking to stand in an art gallery with a glass of shitty Chardonnay from a box in your hand picking at tasteless cheese cubes while people ignored you when you tried to start a conversation. (Admittedly the thumb through the zipper gag may not have been the best choice for that crowd but in my defense the Chardonnay didn't react well with the Xanax I took to keep myself from jumping in front of traffic to get out of going to this thing in the first place. OK, maybe it was 2 Xanax a Vicodin and half a joint while I waited 45 minutes for the queen of the ball to get ready. Anyhoo it was definitely the Chardonnay.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Please Curtis, challenge away, in fact speaking for Judaism, if you don't challenge, it's a sign that you aren't trying hard enough. Btw, the bacon and BLT thing, first you need to do a little research yourself young man and you will know why that statement is well, silly and not even decent mockery. Try putting it on your Muslim friend's sandwich. And the idea that God gets pissed off at dietary things is kind of well established in many scriptures. The fact that we are even discussing some rule and whether it applies to me kind of is my point. Dig a little deeper to know why the laws of Kashrut would even apply today. Why would a God who expects man to be good, decent, ethical, in a word a Mensch even forbid us from eating everything moving or not moving? Did you know that their is a universal commandment not to eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive? That was common back in the day, what a stupid silly God to even suggest we practice any kind of restraint? Is this a reformed Jewish perspective? I would suggest not taking flesh form an animal while it it alive and I am not close to being Godlike except to my cat who considers the thing I do with the opposable thumb and his food can to be absolutely miraculous. They are pretty cavalier in most parts of Asia about all this. I don't see that improving anytime soon. Although I have heard that the growing Chinese affluence is leading to pet ownership which is leading to a counter force against cat and dog eating so I guess there is hope. But back to God, he is really the last being I would trust
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chesterton the intolerance of religion
No worries Curtis, it's OK to disagree, nice to have a civil discussion. I still think that the seeds of greater compassion and freedoms i.e. women's rights, has it's basis in the Bible narrative. Again seeds need it's time to grow and flourish, I don't think it's a coicidence that the civil rights movement had a religious basis. You are right, it's tough to apply higher dare I say moral principles into action, we just keep trying. Make the world a better place, doesn't have to be perfect my friend! We did have some fun in Avon Park! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: That is one of many teachings in the Bible. It gives some nice advice on keeping slaves too. - Well if you read closely it creates so many outs that it was easier to free a slave than to keep one. But it was still okey dokey with the big guy if you followed the rules. I am a Bible fan and have read it numerous times, Old and New Testaments. (Although it sounds as if you have studied it much more thoroughly.) It deserves to be appreciated in many ways. I just don't think moral guidance is one of the best ones. We have done much better today in refining the ideas of how to be more compassionate to other people. (women people for group) Of course applying it is still a bitch! Hey Steve, I don't doubt that you are seeing a lot of good stuff in the Bible and using it to enrich your life, more power to you. It is a rich book with lots of possible ways to look at it. My flip attitude towards scripture is not meant to be disrespectful to your choices. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So if there is a God he doesn't give a shit about animal's suffering, that is completely obvious. So if their is no God, then the current plight of animal suffering is a natual result of evolution? In either case animals get screwed. I hold suffering caused by another to be worse than naturally occurring suffering. Responsibility comes with the title, right? That is one of the many benefits of getting rid of that last God when you have already decided all the other Gods are myths. Nature's only law is survival of the fittest, Groups of animals take care of their own. That buffers the survival code a bit for those in a group. when one worships nature, then the main pursuit is being the most fit. The New Age Movement is all about who is the healthiest. Health Uber alles!! Hey I slept with nature a few times after a bourbon or two but I don't worship her. I take her calls though. I don't know about the New Age movement but I am sure pro health. I think that should go with or without the God idea. I mean he gave you a temple, why trash the place? The Bible tells humanity to show some kindness and compassion not only the weakest among us, but to animals. That is one of many teachings in the Bible. It gives some nice advice on keeping slaves too. The weak get eaten in the natural world. Why would one want to worship nature? I don't even worship the blues and I have devoted my life to it. Worship is really optional and my be one of those imaginative human ideas that doesn't really hold up too well. It is the kind of word you might hear at a Barbara Steisand concert Oh I absolutely adore Babs, don't you Zelda? Nature is like a low maintenance girlfriend who doesn't require worship like your demanding, worship-needed, high maintenance EX-girlfriend (God). With nature you don't have to dress up and can sit by some body of water and watch the sun set. With my EX, this was never good enough, you had to put on a suit, drive in traffic into DC, drive around for hours for parking to stand in an art gallery with a glass of shitty Chardonnay from a box in your hand picking at tasteless cheese cubes while people ignored you when you tried to start a conversation. (Admittedly the thumb through the zipper gag may not have been the best choice for that crowd but in my defense the Chardonnay didn't react well with the Xanax I took to keep myself from jumping in front of traffic to get out of going to this thing in the first place. OK, maybe it was 2 Xanax a Vicodin and half a joint while I waited 45 minutes for the queen of the ball to get ready. Anyhoo it was definitely the Chardonnay.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Please Curtis
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chesterton the intolerance of religion
Please Curtis, challenge away, in fact speaking for Judaism, if you don't challenge, it's a sign that you aren't trying hard enough. Btw, the bacon and BLT thing, first you need to do a little research yourself young man and you will know why that statement is well, silly and not even decent mockery. Dig a little deeper to know why the laws of Kashrut would even apply today. Why would a God who expects man to be good, decent, ethical, in a word a Mensch even forbid us from eating everything moving or not moving? Did you know that their is a universal commandment not to eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive? That was common back in the day, what a stupid silly God to even suggest we practice any kind of restraint? Yes I'm aware of the some of the horrendous practices done in the name of Kosher butchering in Iowa, again you find human failings, but still we have standards. They should throw the book at them, I won't defend them. The Laws of Kashrut (mixing meat and dairy, shellfish restrictions, eat fish with scales only, not bottom feeders, boil a kid in it's mothers milk, etc) only applies to Jews anyway, there is a reason why the word Israel means to struggle. So you like bacon on your blt, go for it, God won't be pissed, just don't slaughter the pig while it's alive! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: Some original quotes by G. K. Chesterton: A man who refuses to have his own philosophy will only have the used-up scraps of somebody else's philosophy; This is one of my complaints against religious beliefs, it is adapting a pre-fab perspective from an agrarian culture. I am not advocating being intolerant. But that doesn't mean that we can't challenge the assumptive claims of religions that they are absolutely right because God told them that putting some bacon in your BLT pisses him off. which the beasts do not have to inherit; hence their happiness. Men have always one of two things: either a complete and conscious philosophy or the unconscious acceptance of the broken bits of some incomplete and shattered and often discredited philosophy [The Revival of Philosophy,Why?] A false alternative, but I get the point. Most people 9myself included) have a bit of both. But the idea that philosophers are discredited is not how I view the history of philosophy, that is more of a religious take on philosophy. For me each important philosopher adds a piece to a continuing dialectic process for discovering truth. Not understanding what has been thought out before leaves modern society recreating thought flows made clearer by more brilliant people. It keeps us at philosophical square one by not understanding how to think about ideas better. A lot of these techniques have been worked out. But our school systems have abandoned teaching critical thinking because if you use it too rigorously you might discover that some of the goals of multiculturalism are bullshit. (All religious beliefs should be respected equally even though in some religions killing non believers is considered a bad thing and in some it is the greatest thing you can do for your future beyond the grave.) Thanks Merudanda. I enjoyed Chesterton's short essay: http://chesterton.org/gkc/philosopher/revivalpPhilosophy.htm I wonder if the following is at all relevant to the recent Curtis::Judy religion debate? (I'm not sure because I'm not clear as to how far Curtis wants his views about myths, superstitions and fairy tales to be enshrined, hard-wired as it were into *modern society*): I missed this when you posted it. I enjoyed the piece as philosophy poetry. An enjoyable romp though word salad with a purpose. I don't want my views about myths to become enshrined anywhere. I am just noticing that this has already taken place with most of the religious ideas man has created and am anxious to see the process complete itself with the remaining ones. This doesn't take away the value of studying the ideas, it just knocks them off the throne of absolute certainty so it can enter the scrum of all of our other man-made ideas. I am advocating taking away the preface God wants from any proposal about society. Change Gods wants gay people to stop being gay and it becomes I and a bunch of my friends who agree with me want gay people to stop being gay. The first ends the discussion, the second starts it. Thus, when so brilliant a man as Mr. H. G. Wells-Delta- Blues That was funny. says that such supernatural ideas have become impossible for intelligent people, he is (for that instant) not talking like an intelligent person. Wouldn't be the first time, thanks for taking the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chesterton the intolerance of religion
No not reformed, perhaps informed Jewish perspective Regarding animals, the Bible presented the first idea of giving animals a day of rest (Sabbath) each week and they are to be fed first before humans eat. That didn't happen before, where both man and beast worked every day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Please Curtis, challenge away, in fact speaking for Judaism, if you don't challenge, it's a sign that you aren't trying hard enough. Btw, the bacon and BLT thing, first you need to do a little research yourself young man and you will know why that statement is well, silly and not even decent mockery. Try putting it on your Muslim friend's sandwich. And the idea that God gets pissed off at dietary things is kind of well established in many scriptures. The fact that we are even discussing some rule and whether it applies to me kind of is my point. Dig a little deeper to know why the laws of Kashrut would even apply today. Why would a God who expects man to be good, decent, ethical, in a word a Mensch even forbid us from eating everything moving or not moving? Did you know that their is a universal commandment not to eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive? That was common back in the day, what a stupid silly God to even suggest we practice any kind of restraint? Is this a reformed Jewish perspective? I would suggest not taking flesh form an animal while it it alive and I am not close to being Godlike except to my cat who considers the thing I do with the opposable thumb and his food can to be absolutely miraculous. They are pretty cavalier in most parts of Asia about all this. I don't see that improving anytime soon. Although I have heard that the growing Chinese affluence is leading to pet ownership which is leading to a counter force against cat and dog eating so I guess there is hope. But back to God, he is really the last being I would trust on this issue of compassion to animals considering the instincts he put in animals to eat each other alive. That is so unnecessary if he wanted to give us a good example in nature. So if there is a God he doesn't give a shit about animal's suffering, that is completely obvious. Yes I'm aware of the some of the horrendous practices done in the name of Kosher butchering in Iowa, again you find human failings, but still we have standards. They should throw the book at them, I won't defend them. The Laws of Kashrut (mixing meat and dairy, shellfish restrictions, eat fish with scales only, not bottom feeders, boil a kid in it's mothers milk, etc) only applies to Jews anyway, there is a reason why the word Israel means to struggle. So you like bacon on your blt, go for it, God won't be pissed, just don't slaughter the pig while it's alive! I was thinking we probably don't need a God idea to figure this one out. Last time I hung out next to a pig pen they seem pretty vocal about what was working for them and especially what was NOT working. I'm pretty sure he would let us know as long as we were not complete psychopaths. Speaking of which the whole animal farm factory system has me plenty bummed out. I find myself eating more sardines the more I think about it all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: Some original quotes by G. K. Chesterton: A man who refuses to have his own philosophy will only have the used-up scraps of somebody else's philosophy; This is one of my complaints against religious beliefs, it is adapting a pre-fab perspective from an agrarian culture. I am not advocating being intolerant. But that doesn't mean that we can't challenge the assumptive claims of religions that they are absolutely right because God told them that putting some bacon in your BLT pisses him off. which the beasts do not have to inherit; hence their happiness. Men have always one of two things: either a complete and conscious philosophy or the unconscious acceptance of the broken bits of some incomplete and shattered and often discredited philosophy [The Revival of Philosophy,Why?] A false alternative, but I get the point. Most people 9myself included) have a bit of both. But the idea that philosophers are discredited is not how I view the history of philosophy, that is more of a religious take on philosophy. For me each important philosopher adds a piece to a continuing dialectic process for discovering truth. Not understanding what has been thought out before leaves modern society
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chesterton the intolerance of religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: So if there is a God he doesn't give a shit about animal's suffering, that is completely obvious. So if their is no God, then the current plight of animal suffering is a natual result of evolution? In either case animals get screwed. Nature's only law is survival of the fittest, when one worships nature, then the main pursuit is being the most fit. The New Age Movement is all about who is the healthiest. Health Uber alles!! The Bible tells humanity to show some kindness and compassion not only the weakest among us, but to animals. The weak get eaten in the natural world. Why would one want to worship nature? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Please Curtis, challenge away, in fact speaking for Judaism, if you don't challenge, it's a sign that you aren't trying hard enough. Btw, the bacon and BLT thing, first you need to do a little research yourself young man and you will know why that statement is well, silly and not even decent mockery. Try putting it on your Muslim friend's sandwich. And the idea that God gets pissed off at dietary things is kind of well established in many scriptures. The fact that we are even discussing some rule and whether it applies to me kind of is my point. Dig a little deeper to know why the laws of Kashrut would even apply today. Why would a God who expects man to be good, decent, ethical, in a word a Mensch even forbid us from eating everything moving or not moving? Did you know that their is a universal commandment not to eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive? That was common back in the day, what a stupid silly God to even suggest we practice any kind of restraint? Is this a reformed Jewish perspective? I would suggest not taking flesh form an animal while it it alive and I am not close to being Godlike except to my cat who considers the thing I do with the opposable thumb and his food can to be absolutely miraculous. They are pretty cavalier in most parts of Asia about all this. I don't see that improving anytime soon. Although I have heard that the growing Chinese affluence is leading to pet ownership which is leading to a counter force against cat and dog eating so I guess there is hope. But back to God, he is really the last being I would trust on this issue of compassion to animals considering the instincts he put in animals to eat each other alive. That is so unnecessary if he wanted to give us a good example in nature. So if there is a God he doesn't give a shit about animal's suffering, that is completely obvious. Yes I'm aware of the some of the horrendous practices done in the name of Kosher butchering in Iowa, again you find human failings, but still we have standards. They should throw the book at them, I won't defend them. The Laws of Kashrut (mixing meat and dairy, shellfish restrictions, eat fish with scales only, not bottom feeders, boil a kid in it's mothers milk, etc) only applies to Jews anyway, there is a reason why the word Israel means to struggle. So you like bacon on your blt, go for it, God won't be pissed, just don't slaughter the pig while it's alive! I was thinking we probably don't need a God idea to figure this one out. Last time I hung out next to a pig pen they seem pretty vocal about what was working for them and especially what was NOT working. I'm pretty sure he would let us know as long as we were not complete psychopaths. Speaking of which the whole animal farm factory system has me plenty bummed out. I find myself eating more sardines the more I think about it all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: Some original quotes by G. K. Chesterton: A man who refuses to have his own philosophy will only have the used-up scraps of somebody else's philosophy; This is one of my complaints against religious beliefs, it is adapting a pre-fab perspective from an agrarian culture. I am not advocating being intolerant. But that doesn't mean that we can't challenge the assumptive claims of religions that they are absolutely right because God told them that putting some bacon in your BLT pisses him off. which the beasts do not have to inherit; hence their happiness. Men have always one of two things: either a complete and conscious philosophy or the unconscious acceptance of the broken bits of some incomplete and shattered and often discredited philosophy [The Revival of Philosophy,Why?] A false alternative, but I get the point. Most people 9myself included) have a bit
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Boy you'd think the (in your words made up thing called God)that spoke of laws and commandment but could not be seen at Sinai would not have been so quickly rejected. Remember what happens..hint here is the where the man made small gods come into play: When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, Come, make us gods [a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don't know what has happened to him. 2 Aaron answered them, Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me. 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, These are your gods, [b] O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt. 5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, Tomorrow there will be a festival to the LORD. 6 So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. [c] Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry. note: reverly is code for orgies, typical of worship back in the day 7 Then the LORD said to Moses, Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, 'These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.' Exodus 32 The Sinai event was unique in ancient and modern times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Hey Curtis, I pasted a link to a short 5 minute video created by my friend Dennis Prager, talk show host, on what he considers the most important verse of the Old Testament with regards to God, meaning, and nature. You may find it interesting, food for thought: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_-E2OfFjpg So much idiocy and suffering over the centuries, just because humans can't deal with the concept of eternal. His entire theory depends upon there being not only a made-up thing called God, but a made-up thing called the beginning. If one merely postulates an eternal universe, one without beginning or end, then there is no need for a creation, and no need for a Creator. The entire need for God seems to come down to humans being unable to keep from projecting the it-began-and-someday-it-must-end-ness of their own puny lives onto the universe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You do realize the quote is not recommending that one stop worshiping God, but rather the opposite, right?--- In I didn't have any context for the intention of the author but found it fit my experience of dropping theism pretty well. I guess I had it all wrong. Doing a bit of research and finding this version: The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything. I disagree with this statement and will have to do a bit more digging to see what was meant. I don't see how seeing God as a man made myth makes you more gullible, it made me less. What I found appealing in my mistaken impression of the first quote was that appreciating the world more was one of the results of me dropping out of theism. Life itself became holy in a naturalistic sense of the word. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! You do realize the quote is not recommending that one stop worshiping God, but rather the opposite, right? (Also, it's not actually from Chesterton, but that's another story.)
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I do not believe in an afterlife, although I am bringing a change of underwear. - Woody Allen --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: He rocks because he's wise, something that's very refreshing around here. Maybe he represents an adult level of Christianity that is rarely seen or reported, only Sunday school jibberish that seems to resonant with the the cultural creatives who couldn't be bothered by all matters serious or again dare I say Adult. You can call being serious anything you want. If Adult is what you think of, more power to ya. I consider the desire to be serious, or even sadder the desire to be taken seriously two of the *banes* of adulthood. It's a *loss*, not a gain. Chesterton *nails* it, in only four words. Seriousness is NOT a virtue. There is nothing on this planet or any other that is improved one iota by taking it seriously or getting all serious in the face of it. The wisest people I have ever met in my life all shared one quality -- they were FUNNY. They laughed a lot. And at the strangest things, things that others around them thought were so serious that they just must take them seriously, or be thought not an adult. You are really preaching to the wrong person if you hope to elevate adulthood and being serious up onto the pedestal of virtue with me. I have written whole tracts on the spiritual value of FUN and laughter, and will do so again. Here's one of them: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm31.html I am helping to raise a young girl, currently 13 months old, who is blessedly one of the happiest, most consistently joyful beings I have ever run across. I consider it my job to help her *preserve* that as she grows into adulthood, not *lose* it to some misguided sense of needing to be serious, or worse, to be taken seriously. Those who cannot laugh at the things they value most have IMO lost their way. I can think of nothing in the universe more sad than believing that being serious is an improvement over being happy and full of joy and ready -- and able -- to laugh at every moment. YMMV. Clearly, it seems to. G.K. Chesterton is on *my* side in this one, Bucko. He was described by his friends and loved ones as one of the lightest, more consistently funny and cheerful individuals they ever met. There was *nothing* in philosophy or in religion that he could not -- and did not -- laugh at. None of that got in the way of even serious people like yourself considering him wise. Now that is my kinda adult. Chesterton was a big guy - 6'4 tall and weighing close to 300 pounds. Once he remarked to his friend George Bernard Shaw, To look at you, anyone would think there was a famine in England. Shaw retorted, To look at you, anyone would think you caused it. P. G. Wodehouse once described a very loud crash as a sound like Chesterton falling onto a sheet of tin. G.K. Chesterton was *loved* by his friends and family, and even by the people he debated against, such as Shaw. He seems to have lived a long and happy life. My bet is that his ability to *not* take everything seriously* is what enabled that happy life, not something that stood in the way of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! G,K. Chesterton rocks! I was first turned on to him by Christians on a Bruce Cockburn mailing list (which kinda qualifies them as being a bit Not Yer Ordinary Christians). One of them used to sign his posts with a .sig file from Chesterton, which knocked my socks off the first time I read it and does still today: Seriousness is not a virtue. Chesterton is FUNNY. How many Christian philosophers can you say that about? The man had a level of *mirth* about him that made his deep faith in Christ and his teachings almost lovable.
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Ha! I'm sure General Patton find this pretty funny. Didn't Patton also say America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser, because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans? or America loves a rounder, and will not tolerate missing a program, because the very thought of missing a program is simply...well unstressing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: Poster in the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome March 8-10, 2010 Speaking to a rounding course, Maharishi emphasized the immense value of being on a long rounding program. It's such a great opportunity. It's such a great opportunity to start living this knowledge. That is why I'm emphasizing every day: Be with the routine. Be with the routine. Every moment is so precious. One would not know at what moment what big block can slide away, and leave one absolutely free. One would not know. There is no way to know that this is the last stroke and it's going to finish next moment. It's not necessary to linger on. Any time it could just flash, and done with it. Finished.| Maharishi, 1971 Maharishi ended this lecture by saying: Nothing would distract us from one-pointedness of our daily routine. And then we'll see how bright we come out. Very great. Absolutely very, very precious; most fortunate. And great, in every way. Om, Jai! Yes, One thing that some of us will be able to say that we can thank God about when asked, What did you do in the great war of world consciousness? Some of us won't have to say, Oh, I had quit and shoveled shit technical writing in New Jersey instead. JGD, -Buck in FF
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Hey Curtis, I pasted a link to a short 5 minute video created by my friend Dennis Prager, talk show host, on what he considers the most important verse of the Old Testament with regards to God, meaning, and nature. You may find it interesting, food for thought: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_-E2OfFjpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You do realize the quote is not recommending that one stop worshiping God, but rather the opposite, right?--- In I didn't have any context for the intention of the author but found it fit my experience of dropping theism pretty well. I guess I had it all wrong. Doing a bit of research and finding this version: The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything. I disagree with this statement and will have to do a bit more digging to see what was meant. I don't see how seeing God as a man made myth makes you more gullible, it made me less. What I found appealing in my mistaken impression of the first quote was that appreciating the world more was one of the results of me dropping out of theism. Life itself became holy in a naturalistic sense of the word. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. What a fantastic quote! You do realize the quote is not recommending that one stop worshiping God, but rather the opposite, right? (Also, it's not actually from Chesterton, but that's another story.)
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In this day and age why would anyone follow a guru? Enlightenment? Liberation? Burn Karma? Not likely folks, wake up and smell the chai To quote the great GK Chesterton- When Man ceases to worship God he does not worship nothing but worships everything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: http://thefastertimes.com/india/2010/03/08/sex-and-the-single-swami-why-indi as-gurus-cant-keep-it-in-their-loincloths/
