Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
It looks like we reached the point where Judy won't even admit ownership of her own words. It just doesn't get much better than this! Go figure. So, let's look it up: In 30 years, I've never heard a TMer say anything about repeating the mantra when they are asleep, nor have I ever heard a TM teacher mention it. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse So, I wonder what SBS had to say about istadevata and the bija mantras? Apply your body and wealth mainly, and your mind secondarily, to run the vyavahara. When the mind is mainly engaged in thinking of God, you shall receive His grace. The experience of the Bhaktas also goes to prove this declaration of the Lord. People are unhappy because they do not have a chosen deity (Ishta). Without Ishta, people turn out to be orphans. It is only Ishta that saves one from anishta (untoward happenings). Of the five Deities - Shankara, Vishnu (Ram, Krishna), Surya, Ganesh and Devi, whosoever is more adorable to you, the mantra of that Deity should be repeated by you every day. You must get to know the mantra of your Ishta, and the method of dhyan (meditation) thereof, through an experienced Satguru and somehow or other, devote some time every day in japa of the Ishta mantra and dhyan. Through japa, Realisation (Siddha) will result. There is no doubt about this. JAPAT SIDDHIR JAPAT SIDDHAIR JAPAT SIDDHIR NASAMSAYAM. To apply your mind to your Ishta is abhyasa. To constantly think of Ishta, meditate on it, talk always about it, and think always about it, this is abhyasa. Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Ji, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math [1941 – 1953] GURUDEV SATSANG http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm On 11/25/2013 2:04 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).* * * *I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.* *(snip)* Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1stand 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. *Richard wrote:* Well, I guess we could look it up: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).* * * *I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.* *(snip)* Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1stand 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the goldencord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, thistechnique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were thenicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It looks like we reached the point where Judy won't even admit ownership of her own words. It just doesn't get much better than this! Go figure. So, let's look it up: In 30 years, I've never heard a TMer say anything about repeating the mantra when they are asleep, nor have I ever heard a TM teacher mention it. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse So, I wonder what SBS had to say about istadevata and the bija mantras? Apply your body and wealth mainly, and your mind secondarily, to run the vyavahara. When the mind is mainly engaged in thinking of God, you shall receive His grace. The experience of the Bhaktas also goes to prove this declaration of the Lord. People are unhappy because they do not have a chosen deity (Ishta). Without Ishta, people turn out to be orphans. It is only Ishta that saves one from anishta (untoward happenings). Of the five Deities - Shankara, Vishnu (Ram, Krishna), Surya, Ganesh and Devi, whosoever is more adorable to you, the mantra of that Deity should be repeated by you every day. You must get to know the mantra of your Ishta, and the method of dhyan (meditation) thereof, through an experienced Satguru and somehow or other, devote some time every day in japa of the Ishta mantra and dhyan. Through japa, Realisation (Siddha) will result. There is no doubt about this. JAPAT SIDDHIR JAPAT SIDDHAIR JAPAT SIDDHIR NASAMSAYAM. To apply your mind to your Ishta is abhyasa. To constantly think of Ishta, meditate on it, talk always about it, and think always about it, this is abhyasa. Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Ji, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math [1941 – 1953] GURUDEV SATSANG http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm On 11/25/2013 2:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Richard wrote: Well, I guess we could look it up: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the
Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Sorry I can't talk now - busy with clients. Will get back to you later. On 11/26/2013 10:16 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It looks like we reached the point where Judy won't even admit ownership of her own words. It just doesn't get much better than this! Go figure. So, let's look it up: In 30 years, I've never heard a TMer say anything about repeating the mantra when they are asleep, nor have I ever heard a TM teacher mention it. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse So, I wonder what SBS had to say about istadevata and the bija mantras? Apply your body and wealth mainly, and your mind secondarily, to run the vyavahara. When the mind is mainly engaged in thinking of God, you shall receive His grace. The experience of the Bhaktas also goes to prove this declaration of the Lord. People are unhappy because they do not have a chosen deity (Ishta). Without Ishta, people turn out to be orphans. It is only Ishta that saves one from anishta (untoward happenings). Of the five Deities - Shankara, Vishnu (Ram, Krishna), Surya, Ganesh and Devi, whosoever is more adorable to you, the mantra of that Deity should be repeated by you every day. You must get to know the mantra of your Ishta, and the method of dhyan (meditation) thereof, through an experienced Satguru and somehow or other, devote some time every day in japa of the Ishta mantra and dhyan. Through japa, Realisation (Siddha) will result. There is no doubt about this. JAPAT SIDDHIR JAPAT SIDDHAIR JAPAT SIDDHIR NASAMSAYAM. To apply your mind to your Ishta is abhyasa. To constantly think of Ishta, meditate on it, talk always about it, and think always about it, this is abhyasa. Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Ji, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math [1941 – 1953] GURUDEV SATSANG http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm On 11/25/2013 2:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).* * * *I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.* *(snip)* Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1stand 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the goldencord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, thistechnique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. *Richard wrote:* Well, I guess we could look it up: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).* * * *I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw.* *(snip)* Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1stand 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, it makes sense to me that Saraswati is your ishta devata but I am curious about how you know that. If it's not too private. Did a jyotishi tell you or did you have an experience? BTW, wonderful knowledge in this post, thank you. Saraswati was obviously by your side when you wrote it (-: On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:07 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: It's a reference to the 'Night Technique', once taught by MMY, otherwise known as 'Laya Yoga' or 'Kundalini Yoga' which is a synthesis of Hatha Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Raja Yoga, first mentioned apparently by Swami Sivananda Saraswati back in 1935 in his book 'Kundalini Yoga'. Swami Sivananda Radha wrote that Kundalini yoga is the yoga of awareness, it aims to cultivate the creative spiritual potential of a human to uphold values, speak truth, and focus on the compassion and consciousness needed to serve and heal others. So, Laya Yoga is similar to MMYs Night Technique, apparently no longer taught, but which was one of the main components of MMYs series of 'advanced techniques'. Dream yoga is very popular in Tibetan Buddhism (see my recent post to this forum concerning lucid dreaming). The purport of the passage is: By resting your bija at the navel chakra or at the heart chakra, the subtle currents from your istadevata will permeate your entire being. For example, my istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning. So, by resting the bija portion of her name, that is, 'sring', at the navel chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when I awake in the morning I will feel refreshed and full of knowledge. It's that simple! Most TMers only repeat the bija portion of their mantra when they are meditating. However, according to Swami Sivananda Radha, a bija mantra may be repeated during the first portions of sleep. For example, when I practice MMYs secret Night Technique I often fall asleep with the bija portion of my mantra in mind as I fall into asleep. When practicing the Night Technique Satyanand advised me to be aware of the area just above my abdomen, (heart chakra) and to put your attention there and let it rest. My take on this technique is to be aware of my bija mantra at the heart chakra while in a sitting position and to gently fall into sleep as I assume the corpse pose at the end of the day. So, all you have to do is be aware of the chakra of the heart, start the bija just like any other thought, then just babysit your bija for a few minutes, right on at your heart area. You just set it, and then forget it. This technique was confirmed to me by Vaj in a posting to FFL in 2005. It sure beats counting sheep in order to fall asleep! Yea, M was also teaching laya yoga all along the way. People just did not appreciate it. It was where he was going again in the end with his Ved and Physiology teachings. He was getting to the heart of the matter in that. It's very powerful stuff as finishing the whole subtle nervous system of spirituality. It is where so much of the mature meditating TM community has gone on to in experience. It was always there in seed form.. for instance, http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml I feel real sorry for the quitters along the way. -Buck in the Dome Notes: Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Works cited: 'Kundalini Yoga for the West' by Swami Sivananda Radha (1979; 2nd ed. 1996) pp. 13, 15 'Kundalini Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Divine Life Society, 1935 page 32 Kundalini Yoga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga References: 'Realities of the Dreaming Mind: The Practice of Dream Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Radha Timeless Books, 2004 'The Serpent Power: The Secrets of Tantric and Shaktic Yoga' by Sir John Woodroffe (Arthur Avalon) Dover, 1974 Read more: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but *especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Richard don't need no stinking jyotishi to tell him. He resonates it. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, it makes sense to me that Saraswati is your ishta devata but I am curious about how you know that. If it's not too private. Did a jyotishi tell you or did you have an experience? BTW, wonderful knowledge in this post, thank you. Saraswati was obviously by your side when you wrote it (-: On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:07 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: It's a reference to the 'Night Technique', once taught by MMY, otherwise known as 'Laya Yoga' or 'Kundalini Yoga' which is a synthesis of Hatha Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Raja Yoga, first mentioned apparently by Swami Sivananda Saraswati back in 1935 in his book 'Kundalini Yoga'. Swami Sivananda Radha wrote that Kundalini yoga is the yoga of awareness, it aims to cultivate the creative spiritual potential of a human to uphold values, speak truth, and focus on the compassion and consciousness needed to serve and heal others. So, Laya Yoga is similar to MMYs Night Technique, apparently no longer taught, but which was one of the main components of MMYs series of 'advanced techniques'. Dream yoga is very popular in Tibetan Buddhism (see my recent post to this forum concerning lucid dreaming). The purport of the passage is: By resting your bija at the navel chakra or at the heart chakra, the subtle currents from your istadevata will permeate your entire being. For example, my istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning. So, by resting the bija portion of her name, that is, 'sring', at the navel chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when I awake in the morning I will feel refreshed and full of knowledge. It's that simple! Most TMers only repeat the bija portion of their mantra when they are meditating. However, according to Swami Sivananda Radha, a bija mantra may be repeated during the first portions of sleep. For example, when I practice MMYs secret Night Technique I often fall asleep with the bija portion of my mantra in mind as I fall into asleep. When practicing the Night Technique Satyanand advised me to be aware of the area just above my abdomen, (heart chakra) and to put your attention there and let it rest. My take on this technique is to be aware of my bija mantra at the heart chakra while in a sitting position and to gently fall into sleep as I assume the corpse pose at the end of the day. So, all you have to do is be aware of the chakra of the heart, start the bija just like any other thought, then just babysit your bija for a few minutes, right on at your heart area. You just set it, and then forget it. This technique was confirmed to me by Vaj in a posting to FFL in 2005. It sure beats counting sheep in order to fall asleep! Notes: Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Works cited: 'Kundalini Yoga for the West' by Swami Sivananda Radha (1979; 2nd ed. 1996) pp. 13, 15 'Kundalini Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Divine Life Society, 1935 page 32 Kundalini Yoga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga References: 'Realities of the Dreaming Mind: The Practice of Dream Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Radha Timeless Books, 2004 'The Serpent Power: The Secrets of Tantric and Shaktic Yoga' by Sir John Woodroffe (Arthur Avalon) Dover, 1974 Read more: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but *especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse In 30 years, I've never heard a TMer say anything about repeating the mantra when they are asleep, nor have I ever heard a TM teacher mention it. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
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Yea, M was also teaching laya yoga all along the way. People just did not appreciate it. It was where he was going again in the end with his Ved and Physiology teachings. He was getting to the heart of a matter in that. Laya's very powerful stuff as finishing the whole subtle nervous system of spirituality. It is where so much of the mature meditating TM community has gone on to in experience. Was always there in seed form.. for instance, http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/secrets/night.shtml I feel real sorry for the quitters along the way. -Buck in the Dome Of course that is Buck talking. Alice A. Bailey however says it more nicely, “The teachings are intended to be practical; they will emphasize the training and discipline of the disciple, and, scattered throughout will be found those hints and esoteric suggestion which, when followed, will lead the aspirant on to experiment and to experience of truth. Those who are not true aspirants will fail to recognize the hints and thus will be preserved from danger and premature experience.” Maharishi as a sat guru was in fact careful to be simple in dealing with people generally and bringing this all to a larger world. What he did is remarkable. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Richard don't need no stinking jyotishi to tell him. He resonates it. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, it makes sense to me that Saraswati is your ishta devata but I am curious about how you know that. If it's not too private. Did a jyotishi tell you or did you have an experience? BTW, wonderful knowledge in this post, thank you. Saraswati was obviously by your side when you wrote it (-: On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:07 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: It's a reference to the 'Night Technique', once taught by MMY, otherwise known as 'Laya Yoga' or 'Kundalini Yoga' which is a synthesis of Hatha Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Raja Yoga, first mentioned apparently by Swami Sivananda Saraswati back in 1935 in his book 'Kundalini Yoga'. Swami Sivananda Radha wrote that Kundalini yoga is the yoga of awareness, it aims to cultivate the creative spiritual potential of a human to uphold values, speak truth, and focus on the compassion and consciousness needed to serve and heal others. So, Laya Yoga is similar to MMYs Night Technique, apparently no longer taught, but which was one of the main components of MMYs series of 'advanced techniques'. Dream yoga is very popular in Tibetan Buddhism (see my recent post to this forum concerning lucid dreaming). The purport of the passage is: By resting your bija at the navel chakra or at the heart chakra, the subtle currents from your istadevata will permeate your entire being. For example, my istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning. So, by resting the bija portion of her name, that is, 'sring', at the navel chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when I awake in the morning I will feel refreshed and full of knowledge. It's that simple! Most TMers only repeat the bija portion of their mantra when they are meditating. However, according to Swami Sivananda Radha, a bija mantra may be repeated during the first portions of sleep. For example, when I practice MMYs secret Night Technique I often fall asleep with the bija portion of my mantra in mind as I fall into asleep. When practicing the Night Technique Satyanand advised me to be aware of the area just above my abdomen, (heart chakra) and to put your attention there and let it rest. My take on this technique is to be aware of my bija mantra at the heart chakra while in a sitting position and to gently fall into sleep as I assume the corpse pose at the end of the day. So, all you have to do is be aware of the chakra of the heart, start the bija just like any other thought, then just babysit your bija for a few minutes, right on at your heart area. You just set it, and then forget it. This technique was confirmed to me by Vaj in a posting to FFL in 2005. It sure beats counting sheep in order to fall asleep! Notes: Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Works cited: 'Kundalini Yoga for the West' by Swami Sivananda Radha (1979; 2nd ed. 1996) pp. 13, 15 'Kundalini Yoga'
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Well, I guess we could look it up: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure.
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Richard wrote: Well, I guess we could look it up: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). I will say that the sight of, er, certain people telling Richard admiringly how wonderful his knowledge is evokes a loud guffaw. (snip) Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
It's a reference to the 'Night Technique', once taught by MMY, otherwise known as 'Laya Yoga' or 'Kundalini Yoga' which is a synthesis of Hatha Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, and Raja Yoga, first mentioned apparently by Swami Sivananda Saraswati back in 1935 in his book 'Kundalini Yoga'. Swami Sivananda Radha wrote that Kundalini yoga is the yoga of awareness, it aims to cultivate the creative spiritual potential of a human to uphold values, speak truth, and focus on the compassion and consciousness needed to serve and heal others. So, Laya Yoga is similar to MMYs Night Technique, apparently no longer taught, but which was one of the main components of MMYs series of 'advanced techniques'. Dream yoga is very popular in Tibetan Buddhism (see my recent post to this forum concerning lucid dreaming). The purport of the passage is: By resting your bija at the navel chakra or at the heart chakra, the subtle currents from your istadevata will permeate your entire being. For example, my istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning. So, by resting the bija portion of her name, that is, 'sring', at the navel chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when I awake in the morning I will feel refreshed and full of knowledge. It's that simple! Most TMers only repeat the bija portion of their mantra when they are meditating. However, according to Swami Sivananda Radha, a bija mantra may be repeated during the first portions of sleep. For example, when I practice MMYs secret Night Technique I often fall asleep with the bija portion of my mantra in mind as I fall into asleep. When practicing the Night Technique Satyanand advised me to be aware of the area just above my abdomen, (heart chakra) and to put your attention there and let it rest. My take on this technique is to be aware of my bija mantra at the heart chakra while in a sitting position and to gently fall into sleep as I assume the corpse pose at the end of the day. So, all you have to do is be aware of the chakra of the heart, start the bija just like any other thought, then just babysit your bija for a few minutes, right on at your heart area. You just set it, and then forget it. This technique was confirmed to me by Vaj in a posting to FFL in 2005. It sure beats counting sheep in order to fall asleep! Notes: Yogi Bhajan says that Kundalini energy is technically explained as being sparked during yogic breathing when prana and apana blends at the 3rd chakra (naval center) at which point it initially drops down to the 1st and 2nd chakras before traveling up to the spine to the higher centers of the brain to activate the golden cord - the connection between the pituitary and pineal glands - and penetrate the 7 chakras. However, this technique was denigrated by Judy in a somewhat inane post denying that MMY bijas were the nicknames of the Istadevatas. Go figure. Works cited: 'Kundalini Yoga for the West' by Swami Sivananda Radha (1979; 2nd ed. 1996) pp. 13, 15 'Kundalini Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Divine Life Society, 1935 page 32 Kundalini Yoga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga References: 'Realities of the Dreaming Mind: The Practice of Dream Yoga' by Swami Sivananda Radha Timeless Books, 2004 'The Serpent Power: The Secrets of Tantric and Shaktic Yoga' by Sir John Woodroffe (Arthur Avalon) Dover, 1974 Read more: Note to newbies: Willytex, aka pundit, punditster, punditmoderator, etc., spouts a great deal of absolute nonsense. Nothing he says about TM (or about much of anything else, but *especially* TM) is to be taken seriously. Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse In 30 years, I've never heard a TMer say anything about repeating the mantra when they are asleep, nor have I ever heard a TM teacher mention it. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 9:56 am http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse I actually got two night techniques, one at Estes Park as my 2nd technique, one on my 6-month course. Neither of them was what you described, but one of them could have been a simple version of it. Subject: Re: The new night technique? Author: Rick Archer Newsgroup: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:52 am http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83577 Yes. That's why I suspect they may be teaching it. If you want to witness deep sleep, rest your awareness in your heart center or feel your mantra there gently and go to sleep. Subject: Re: The new night technique? Author: Vaj Newsgroup: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date:
[FairfieldLife] OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
