[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will be perceived as negative. They are probably so superstitious that they think Bad Things will happen to them if they do. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will be perceived as negative. They are probably so superstitious that they think Bad Things will happen to them if they do. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will be perceived as negative. They are probably so superstitious that they think Bad Things will happen to them if they do. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah. Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip. I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone. Meditation gets you there faster, no? From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will be perceived as negative. They are probably so superstitious that they think Bad Things will happen to them if
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking? When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim  Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well. It's the time it all takes that I need to address. And swimming works wonders for me as well - lots of breathing. From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking? When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim  Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
I like swimming underwater and have put on my wish listgills. ;D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well.  It's the time it all takes that I need to address.  And swimming works wonders for me as well - lots of breathing.  From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim  Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking? When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah. àOnce I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip. àI always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone. àMeditation gets you there faster, no?àFrom: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim àJim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
Meditation gets you there faster, no? No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When this happens and if it indeed happens is a big question mark and has no relation to a regular meditation practice such as in my case. Two years down the line I seem to agree with Vaj that TM is an unhealthy meditation technique that can cause abnormal states of mind - better to stick with hatha yoga, pranaayama etc. So enlightenment is not an achievement. This is the problem I had with most on Batgap - what most are describing there are some altered states of consciousness created by their meditation techniques. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim  Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim
I find your response interesting. Ravi, I started another thread regarding enlightenment here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333764 Would you mind commenting on that thread? (Just to keep the comments together. Hope that is an okay request here on FFL.) In your words, what is enlightenment? Thank you! * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Meditation gets you there faster, no? No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When this happens and if it indeed happens is a big question mark and has no relation to a regular meditation practice such as in my case. Two years down the line I seem to agree with Vaj that TM is an unhealthy meditation technique that can cause abnormal states of mind - better to stick with hatha yoga, pranaayama etc. So enlightenment is not an achievement. This is the problem I had with most on Batgap - what most are describing there are some altered states of consciousness created by their meditation techniques. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? From: Carol To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim  Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily.
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Yeah, that is the progression - first finding silence within oneself when doing quiet enjoyable activities. Then it grows, finally to a point where that inner whatever it is, never leaves, even under the most stressful circumstances. Puts an absolutely different perspective on life, where success becomes the norm. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will be perceived as negative. They are probably so superstitious that they think Bad Things will happen to them if they do. :-)
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DocD stated: ...where that inner whatever it is, never leaves,... Ha! I like that description...inner whatever it is. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yeah, that is the progression - first finding silence within oneself when doing quiet enjoyable activities. Then it grows, finally to a point where that inner whatever it is, never leaves, even under the most stressful circumstances. Puts an absolutely different perspective on life, where success becomes the norm. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust pales in comparison! MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. And almost completely unaware of it. All while considering himself enlightened. Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and their utter reliance on Kill the messenger demonization instead? I have to believe that the reason is that they are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will
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An umbilical cord to Mother Divine (who others refer to as 'God' - same entity)?? This permanent connection to whatever it is, seems to be the destiny of each of us. Like one of those mid-air refueling ops that the military does, except you've never flown before, and all the tech manuals just got sucked out the window. You're now traveling at over 600 mph, about seven miles off the ground, stabilized in three dimensions, and so is God, or Mother Divine, in a much larger vehicle. So, the trick is, to figure out a way to sync up with Her, guided purely by intuition. I could see that taking a few lifetimes to figure out.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: DocD stated: ...where that inner whatever it is, never leaves,... Ha! I like that description...inner whatever it is. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Yeah, that is the progression - first finding silence within oneself when doing quiet enjoyable activities. Then it grows, finally to a point where that inner whatever it is, never leaves, even under the most stressful circumstances. Puts an absolutely different perspective on life, where success becomes the norm. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to touch the silence daily. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol wrote: Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!:-) I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on this forum. The only people you've been able to convince that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could convince those people that the moon was made of green cheese. :-) And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me about Jim's enlightened status, and who believes it, to chime in and agree with me. Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, adoration and drama it deserves! Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S going on the list TOO! Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just plain Medieval TORTURE you,
