[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: None of that really seems to matter. There are many developing countries where TM is clearly popular. So if it less desirable in one culture, it will be more popular in another. Are you familiar with global economics at all?? Same principle, different need. If you want to continue as the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike, please do, but you are wasting your time. These little impotent rants of yours have accomplished absolutely nothing over the years, in terms of whether of not TM is popular. You have dissuaded exactly zero people from doing TM. No impact at all. Do you know why you have failed? It is simple. Dissuading others was never the objective. These rants of yours have a lot more to do with Barry, than they do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. As to what it might be about you, Barry, that needs this obsessive focus on something you don't impact at all, I have no idea. But I do know with absolute certainty that it has nothing to do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. Bingo !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
Yep, and he knows it too.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: None of that really seems to matter. There are many developing countries where TM is clearly popular. So if it less desirable in one culture, it will be more popular in another. Are you familiar with global economics at all?? Same principle, different need. If you want to continue as the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike, please do, but you are wasting your time. These little impotent rants of yours have accomplished absolutely nothing over the years, in terms of whether of not TM is popular. You have dissuaded exactly zero people from doing TM. No impact at all. Do you know why you have failed? It is simple. Dissuading others was never the objective. These rants of yours have a lot more to do with Barry, than they do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. As to what it might be about you, Barry, that needs this obsessive focus on something you don't impact at all, I have no idea. But I do know with absolute certainty that it has nothing to do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. Bingo !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we can become. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Hadn't seen this one before. Thank You! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@... wrote: @ http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ By kennethwestlee on February 28, 2013 ⢠( 0 ) Sometime into my awakening I began looking into meditation. A great friend of mine and a mentor of mine both told me that they practice meditation routinely. Iâve heard of wild psychedelic meditations as well as spiritual atonement meditations. I tried following some basic meditation guidelines online but quickly became frustrated from not having a worldly meditative experience or spiritual hallucinations. Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOâs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. Whatâs the big deal? Is it a placebo movement or is there real science to this meditation technique? Am I going to need to spend a month in a mountain cave learning this technique 24/7. Turns out, the answers were more incredible than I could ever hope for. TM is the most scientifically researched meditation technique to date. Why? Well because it is the most effective and immediate form of meditation ever considered, with mindfulness coming in second but far behind in the numbers. See the main scientific benefits and facts right here, click the most intriguing subjects and dive deeper for 30 seconds. I dove real deep, watched this 23 minute crash course on TM. Now I can preach it. So, TM works instantly. Great. Whatâs the secret to trying it out? The difficult thing to learn about TM is to not try at it, let it happen naturally. The ironic thing is thatâs tougher than it sounds because we typically assume sitting down and meditating is making an effort towards meditation. Do you make a big effort to take a nap in the middle of the day when you really need one? The catch is, TM is something your body and mind have been wanting to do since you were born (like always needing a nap but never knowing a simple nap was the available solution). So if you can have someone show you how to use the mantra correctly (or really let the mantra use you), and teach you how to let it just happen naturally, your first time trying it youâre guaranteed to have a life changing experience.  Have a quick 4 minutes to have your mind blown? Watch this video. This is the most impactful video I came across.  The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we can become. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi *** @
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again
That is a good one - meditators, sidhas, governors, executive governors, ministers of the Age of Enlightenment sacrifice time, effort, energy, belief and money so Marshy and his King and Court of Jesters er, Rajas can be all they can be. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we can become. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Hadn't seen this one before. Thank You! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin wrote: @ http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ By kennethwestlee on February 28, 2013 • ( 0 ) Sometime into my awakening I began looking into meditation. A great friend of mine and a mentor of mine both told me that they practice meditation routinely. I’ve heard of wild psychedelic meditations as well as spiritual atonement meditations. I tried following some basic meditation guidelines online but quickly became frustrated from not having a worldly meditative experience or spiritual hallucinations. Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEO’s of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. What’s the big deal? Is it a placebo movement or is there real science to this meditation technique? Am I going to need to spend a month in a mountain cave learning this technique 24/7. Turns out, the answers were more incredible than I could ever hope for. TM is the most scientifically researched meditation technique to date. Why? Well because it is the most effective and immediate form of meditation ever considered, with mindfulness coming in second but far behind in the numbers. See the main scientific benefits and facts right here, click the most intriguing subjects and dive deeper for 30 seconds. I dove real deep, watched this 23 minute crash course on TM. Now I can preach it. So, TM works instantly. Great. What’s the secret to trying it out? The difficult thing to learn about TM is to not try at it, let it happen naturally. The ironic thing is that’s tougher than it sounds because we typically assume sitting down and meditating is making an effort towards meditation. Do you make a big effort to take a nap in the middle of the day when you really need one? The catch is, TM is something your body and mind have been wanting to do since you were born (like always needing a nap but never knowing a simple nap was the available solution). So if you can have someone show you how to use the mantra correctly (or really let the mantra use you), and teach you how to let it just happen naturally, your first time trying it you’re guaranteed to have a life changing experience.  Have a quick 4 minutes to have your mind blown? Watch this video. This is the most impactful video I came across.  The important thing is this: to be able, at any moment, to sacrifice what we are for what we can become. - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi *** @
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Or from Twin Peaks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII :-) On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
Agreed. Until 50 Cent and Lady Gaga start, I don't anticipate much progress. And even if they did promote TM, I don't think the current generation has the interest or curiosity to match the 60's or 70's generation. It was a different time and a different crowd. Times have changed. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Or from Twin Peaks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII :-) On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
there is no marketing campaign at present,and there has not been for years. I have heard there is some planning for one, not to create the false impression that I have any expectation of rationality from yourself but these people are not remotely the TMO I guess people like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kat_Denning are too OLD for your taste lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: Agreed. Until 50 Cent and Lady Gaga start, I don't anticipate much progress. Just as a splash of cold water, 50 Cent is 38, and Lady Gaga is 27. Remember Don't trust anyone over 25? What makes you believe kids these days are any different than we were in that respect. To have any street cred with its celebrity spokes- persons among a youth audience these days, TM would have to recruit Justin Bieber (18). And even if they did promote TM, I don't think the current generation has the interest or curiosity to match the 60's or 70's generation. It was a different time and a different crowd. Times have changed. I would tend to agree. It's *not* IMO as if this younger generation has *no* interest in introspection and meditation, just that if they are interested in it, they're interested for different reasons. And the OLD folks who run the TMO can't even comprehend what those reasons might be, much less speak to them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Or from Twin Peaks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII :-) On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason.
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Unfortunately Katy Perry is 28, and a TM'er - my daughter loves her music but doesn't give a crap about Perry doing TM (thank God!) From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again Agreed. Until 50 Cent and Lady Gaga start, I don't anticipate much progress. And even if they did promote TM, I don't think the current generation has the interest or curiosity to match the 60's or 70's generation. It was a different time and a different crowd. Times have changed. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Or from Twin Peaks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII :-) On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason.
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Oh come on man! You can't seriously think there isn't a marketing campaign!!! They are trying to sanitize the image of TM and sell it to everyone they can - they are even starting to distance themselves from Marshy if you believe the stuff in that NY Times article last week. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again there is no marketing campaign at present,and there has not been for years. I have heard there is some planning for one, not to create the false impression that I have any expectation of rationality from yourself but these people are not remotely the TMO I guess people like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kat_Denning are too OLD for your taste lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
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Well from viewing that MUM Secrets facebook page, there are young people doing TM - tho most of the people posting there seem to be more interested in screwing on top of the Domes than in sidha-land stuff - maybe the sex vibes radiating down from on top of the Domes could account for the lack of high superradiance numbers, what about it Buck? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation – becoming popular again --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Or from Twin Peaks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKZzKLpNII :-) On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Dear Barry, you just don't get it. You refuse to get it. It eludes you because you are stubborn, wear very narrow blinkers and have some sort of block, be it spiritual, physical or mental. You don't get it so much that you won't even be sure what it is I am talking about that you don't get. You will think about it for as long as it takes you to read these words and then move on to wherever it is your mind tends to want to go. You write words and words, it is always the same message, but they are very far from addressing what is real or relevant. You are stuck in some nightmarish, Twilight Zonish, Groundhog Day type rotating door type of repetition and broken/skipping record world of your own making. For our sake, for your sake, I am begging you, can you move past this? I mean, even a baby sitting in front of a piano can find more than one key to hit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
None of that really seems to matter. There are many developing countries where TM is clearly popular. So if it less desirable in one culture, it will be more popular in another. Are you familiar with global economics at all?? Same principle, different need. If you want to continue as the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike, please do, but you are wasting your time. These little impotent rants of yours have accomplished absolutely nothing over the years, in terms of whether of not TM is popular. You have dissuaded exactly zero people from doing TM. No impact at all. Do you know why you have failed? It is simple. Dissuading others was never the objective. These rants of yours have a lot more to do with Barry, than they do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. As to what it might be about you, Barry, that needs this obsessive focus on something you don't impact at all, I have no idea. But I do know with absolute certainty that it has nothing to do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation â becoming popular again
Amen to that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: None of that really seems to matter. There are many developing countries where TM is clearly popular. So if it less desirable in one culture, it will be more popular in another. Are you familiar with global economics at all?? Same principle, different need. If you want to continue as the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike, please do, but you are wasting your time. These little impotent rants of yours have accomplished absolutely nothing over the years, in terms of whether of not TM is popular. You have dissuaded exactly zero people from doing TM. No impact at all. Do you know why you have failed? It is simple. Dissuading others was never the objective. These rants of yours have a lot more to do with Barry, than they do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. As to what it might be about you, Barry, that needs this obsessive focus on something you don't impact at all, I have no idea. But I do know with absolute certainty that it has nothing to do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote: http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/ [snip] Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice and advocate like mad for TM. One of the things that amazes me about the people who keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't seem to realize that everyone on their lists of famous meditators is OLD AS FUCK. The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the age of 25 have never heard of them. Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that TM is becoming popular again when the only people they can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY, and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand- parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people of high school age or early college age who may well have heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by what they might think of anything. Kids these days would look at them as if they were insane. And with reason. Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's marketing campaign? Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom pants, or people at risk who are in prison, suffering from PTSD, or otherwise impaired? And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to change the world, and make it a better place? Isn't that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth* of a nation to do? Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What do you think would be the likelihood of you still being a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the very least, profess to believe. Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to do what is right for all these poor, young folks who aren't OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves. Yeah, THAT sure worked with Just Say No and other such OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be just about as successful with a new generation.
