Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
Thank you for your comments Seraphita - you are spot on Gandhi, another aspect though that his fasting to coerce others could be treated as being violent, being passive aggressive. And then one could argue that he was not the only one responsible for India's independence. You guys had already looted, ravaged the country and India was a huge burden for you at that point what with widespread famines and poverty, plus your countrymen were no longer the uncivilized brutes, and were more aware and sensitive and sophisticated. I beg to disagree on Dalai Lama, he doesn't fashion himself as a mere political leader but as an enlightened, spiritual person. He is the most dangerous of all three - sly and a charlatan. He isn't enlightened and he doesn't have any mystical experiences. At least Gandhi and Teresa seem sincere, innocently deceived in their commitment to their life-abnegating philosophies where celibacy, renunciation, sacrifice is synonymous to spirituality. In fact Gandhi can be argued as being a Christian, definitely a perversion of the core Hindu philosophy. Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:37 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Yes, Gandhi has always been one of my pet peeves. Never been too keen on Mother Teresa either. The thing about Gandhi for me is that, on the one hand, he presented himself as a naked sadhu - ie, someone who had *renounced* the world - and yet he was also a political figure - ie someone who was very much *engaged* with the world (and in a dangerously naive way to boot). The unthinking veneration in which he is held baffles me. And - no doubt because I'm English - I find the whole sexual hypocrisy aspect drives me up the wall! Maybe Penn Teller were a bit harsh on the Dalai Lama though. He is also a legitimate political leader and it's hard to keep squeaky clean in the world of realpolitik. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Back in my TM days, I knew a woman who had two Ph.D.s (and was once told directly by Maharishi with regard to this accomplishment, Good...that will make you a better conversationalist for your husband) who wrote a book about celibacy in spiritual traditions. I've never forgotten the subtitle she proposed to her publisher (rejected, for what will be obvious reasons) for her book: real title: Guilt Without Sex. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
but he never screwd 'em!! Alas, another icon falls. On Fri, 10/18/13, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 3:14 AM I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
Churchill didn't much like him either. On Fri, 10/18/13, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 18, 2013, 3:37 AM Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Yes, Gandhi has always been one of my pet peeves. Never been too keen on Mother Teresa either. The thing about Gandhi for me is that, on the one hand, he presented himself as a naked sadhu - ie, someone who had *renounced* the world - and yet he was also a political figure - ie someone who was very much *engaged* with the world (and in a dangerously naive way to boot). The unthinking veneration in which he is held baffles me. And - no doubt because I'm English - I find the whole sexual hypocrisy aspect drives me up the wall! Maybe Penn Teller were a bit harsh on the Dalai Lama though. He is also a legitimate political leader and it's hard to keep squeaky clean in the world of realpolitik. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
A guy who, through the simple force of his personality, could free a whole sub-continent from the rule of the British Empire, is very impressive indeed, even if he wore a bed sheet and slept with girls. I guess it's all a matter of what is right and what is wrong, not about the clothes you wear or if you sleep alone or not. Go figure. On 10/17/2013 10:37 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Yes, Gandhi has always been one of my pet peeves. Never been too keen on Mother Teresa either. The thing about Gandhi for me is that, on the one hand, he presented himself as a naked sadhu - ie, someone who had *renounced* the world - and yet he was also a political figure - ie someone who was very much *engaged* with the world (and in a dangerously naive way to boot). The unthinking veneration in which he is held baffles me. And - no doubt because I'm English - I find the whole sexual hypocrisy aspect drives me up the wall! Maybe Penn Teller were a bit harsh on the Dalai Lama though. He is also a legitimate political leader and it's hard to keep squeaky clean in the world of realpolitik. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
Richard, you're my hero for saying this. I mean jeez, we're all a mix of good and bad. Can't we all just acknowledge the good and help heal the bad, or whatever one wants to call it? On Friday, October 18, 2013 9:18 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A guy who, through the simple force of his personality, could free a whole sub-continent from the rule of the British Empire, is very impressive indeed, even if he wore a bed sheet and slept with girls. I guess it's all a matter of what is right and what is wrong, not about the clothes you wear or if you sleep alone or not. Go figure. On 10/17/2013 10:37 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Yes, Gandhi has always been one of my pet peeves. Never been too keen on Mother Teresa either. The thing about Gandhi for me is that, on the one hand, he presented himself as a naked sadhu - ie, someone who had *renounced* the world - and yet he was also a political figure - ie someone who was very much *engaged* with the world (and in a dangerously naive way to boot). The unthinking veneration in which he is held baffles me. And - no doubt because I'm English - I find the whole sexual hypocrisy aspect drives me up the wall! Maybe Penn Teller were a bit harsh on the Dalai Lama though. He is also a legitimate political leader and it's hard to keep squeaky clean in the world of realpolitik. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raphita@... wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bullshit - Holier than Thou
Thrill of the chaste - excellent title! Thanks for the link. Yes, Gandhi has always been one of my pet peeves. Never been too keen on Mother Teresa either. The thing about Gandhi for me is that, on the one hand, he presented himself as a naked sadhu - ie, someone who had *renounced* the world - and yet he was also a political figure - ie someone who was very much *engaged* with the world (and in a dangerously naive way to boot). The unthinking veneration in which he is held baffles me. And - no doubt because I'm English - I find the whole sexual hypocrisy aspect drives me up the wall! Maybe Penn Teller were a bit harsh on the Dalai Lama though. He is also a legitimate political leader and it's hard to keep squeaky clean in the world of realpolitik. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I had to come out of lurkdom to thank you for this beautiful video dear Seraphita. I have long railed against Gandhi, Teresa and Dolly Lama and I totally enjoyed this video, it is a good summary of these three pseudo-spiritual icons. That Gandhi was sexually perverted and slept with girls was a well known fact to me in India and my generation had no fascination for Gandhi. So I was quite baffled by the adoration of Gandhi by liberals and I know I pissed off quite a few with my statements on Gandhi. I recently had a chance to read this article on the Independent - enjoy. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html Ravi. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:25 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama get the Penn and Teller treatment in this hilarious and foul-mouthed rant. http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw http://tinyurl.com/nv68blw
