Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
That, lovely lady, is what we call in the trade a spin. So aside from the persistent claims of your unflinching honesty and truthfulness, you are undermining it here, as you are wont to do on a regular basis. And then, (an this really is hilarious), you attempt to put the blame on ME, as to whether or not I did fall for your ploy. And yes, I did initially give it credibility, as I don't typically assume people are trying to fool me. And just as I have seen you fall for misrepresentations that I spotted at the outset. Bottom line: You've got some serious re-evaluation to do on you persistent honesty claim. We'll wait ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
The spin, I fear, is all in your head, Stevie-boy. I think I'll put up some excerpts to show those who never saw or don't remember the exchange how idiotic it is to think we were trying to fool people. I'm sorry you are so humiliated by having taken it all seriously when most people got that it was all in fun, but you really, really cannot blame your own failing in that regard on Robin and me. While I'm at it, please cite examples you believe undermine my claims of honesty. If I do it on a regular basis, that shouldn't be hard. Also cite examples of where I have fallen for misrepresentations that you spotted at the outset. (I'm asking pro forma, because I know you won't and can't.) That, lovely lady, is what we call in the trade a spin. So aside from the persistent claims of your unflinching honesty and truthfulness, you are undermining it here, as you are wont to do on a regular basis. And then, (an this really is hilarious), you attempt to put the blame on ME, as to whether or not I did fall for your ploy. And yes, I did initially give it credibility, as I don't typically assume people are trying to fool me. And just as I have seen you fall for misrepresentations that I spotted at the outset. Bottom line: You've got some serious re-evaluation to do on you persistent honesty claim. We'll wait ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Boy, have you missed the boat. If we had intended to fool people, we would have done the whole thing entirely differently. The fun was in putting on an act, an over-the-top role-playing improvisation, for others to enjoy--which most people did. Only a few real knuckleheads were unable to recognize it for what it was. Nobody with any sense could have taken it seriously. Oh, hmmm, you took it seriously at first, didn't you? Well, like I said... Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 02/10/2014 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Uh-oh. You've made him really nervous, Ann. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. *Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are.*You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. */ /* */That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-) /* */ /* *Yeah, either that or a musical jazz trio...* *Or a coven. :-D *
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 6:43 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I mean Robin always seemed to be changing his mind about things. I don't think I am along in not knowing when he was being ironic, or when he was being serious. You've got to wonder about a guy like Robin: the first enlightened Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, certified by MMY. That's quite an accomplishment when you think about it. But, posting to FFL - what was his target audience? Maybe he thought the students or administrators at MUM read FFL. Apparently Robin didn't know that only Judy takes this discussion seriously. Go figure. I still think Robin should write The Confessions of Robin Carlsen. It would probably be very well received on the TM-Free Blog. But, his writing was way to long for the average FFL informant to understand because there was this tendency in Robin's postings where he tried to hoodwink people into taking him seriously. Now, the funny thing is, that Judy apparently took Robin seriously, and so from that moment on, Robin knew he had hoodwinked The Corrector and then the rest of us would be easily hoodwinked. Robin had a little trouble with Barry, who is not easily hoodwinked, but with a little help from Judy, Robin tried to make us think that Barry was the poser, when everyone else knew that it was Robin doing the posing. Curtis saw this right away and dealt with Robin on his on level by letting Robin know that Robin was a hoodwinker trying to sell us some more snake-oil.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 5:29 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? My answer: Nothing that Barry or Curtis posts to FFL is to be taken seriously, so I don't think I would be fooled if Barry all of a sudden started supporting Judy. I would think Barry is smoking something just like Robin was on something - who knows what? Anyone else is welcome to respond to this question as well. So, let's review what we know: Apparently Robin took FFL seriously, so he spent probably hours and hours composing some of his posts. But, nobody took him seriously except Judy. When he realized that Curtis wasn't taking him seriously, Robin quit the group. Then, Robin came back to try and hoodwink Barry by posting a parody, in a conspiracy with Judy, to hoodwink the group by posing as Barry's supporter. Now Judy is upset because she thinks Richard took Robin's post seriously - but it looks like Judy was hoodwinked by Richard - it was a trick posting, a parody sent by Richard, to hoodwink Judy back - and it worked. Judy got hoodwinked for her hoodwinking. Now we all know that Judy and Robin are hoodwinkers, posers, who post fibs and lie all the time. Nothing they post should be taken seriously - they are trolls. Are we agreed so far? My comment: So, don't take anything seriously that anyone posts to FFL.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 4:15 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: He just felt like having fun that day when he wrote the first of the posts. As I say, he didn't expect /anybody/ to take it seriously. He knew I'd come back with something equally outrageous, which I did, and we took it from there. The only problem with this explanation is that Robin's parodies aren't read as wholes, but only as fragments. Only if you read them in context would most of them make any sense. The vast majority of people won't bother to read the whole FFL archive to follow the Robin threads and see what Judy responded to. Go figure. But, if anyone wants to do a search using Google or the FFL Mail Archive, I've made it easy for you to find the relevant parodies - just key in IF robin THEN carlsen ELSE hoodwinks and you can read the parody posted by Robin about Judy and Barry. This has all been one big hoodwink - but now the hoodwink is on Judykins. I am quite sure this won't be lost on Barrykins. LoL! It will perhaps come as a shock to some, but in reading Barry more closely and without the intense bias that has gripped me right from the start when Barry appeared to make himself immune to the effects of my posts, I have concluded that essentially Barry is right. Right not just about Judy; but right about even myself... - Masked Zebra http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 1:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: When he felt like using irony, he used irony. Congratulations, you are the first governor of the Age of Enlightenment. The Sunnyside Drama: The First Three Years of Enlightenment by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 6:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote: I mean Robin always seemed to be changing his mind about things. I don't think I am along in not knowing when he was being ironic, or when he was being serious. You've got to wonder about a guy like Robin: the first enlightened Governor of the Age of Enlightenment, certified by MMY. That's quite an accomplishment when you think about it. But, posting to FFL - what was his target audience? Maybe he thought the students or administrators at MUM read FFL. Apparently Robin didn't know that only Judy takes this discussion seriously. Go figure. I still think Robin should write The Confessions of Robin Carlsen. It would probably be very well received on the TM-Free Blog. But, his writing was way to long for the average FFL informant to understand because there was this tendency in Robin's postings where he tried to hoodwink people into taking him seriously. Now, the funny thing is, that Judy apparently took Robin seriously, and so from that moment on, Robin knew he had hoodwinked The Corrector and then the rest of us would be easily hoodwinked. Robin had a little trouble with Barry, who is not easily hoodwinked, but with a little help from Judy, Robin tried to make us think that Barry was the poser, when everyone else knew that it was Robin doing the posing. Curtis saw this right away and dealt with Robin on his on level by letting Robin know that Robin was a hoodwinker trying to sell us some more snake-oil. Stevie and Curtis, you two might make a lovely couple. Have you told him your true feelings yet? Does he have an inkling you feel this way? I mean, if I can see it he certainly could suss it out. But then he is gone and gone for good, just like Robin.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 9:36 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy this may be hard for your to understand, but spending time trying to trick people, and then finding it to be the most fun you've had in the setting in which you trick the people, is not something really to be proud of. It's a lot more fun, Steve, tricking people into believing you're enlightened and in cosmic consciousness. Posting to FFL and trying to trick Judy is not as much fun I would think. But, posting to the internet does have a more instant reaction feel to it - as opposed to standing on the side of a mountain or on a stage in front of a large audience making your pronouncements, where you have to wait years to find out what the reaction was. For someone like the Masked Zebra, it was fun tricking people like Judy on FFL, but not much of a challenge after hoodwinking MMY. Go figure. I floated in a kind of absolute bliss and watched as my mouth uttered sounds, as my body moved, as my individuality carried out its natural actions. In the midst of the experience I thought--or rather I witnessed the thought come: Maharishi says the real test is sleep--if pure consciousness stays awake while everything else sleeps, then one knows one is in CC. Ignorance to Enlightenment: An Autobiography by Robin Carlsen http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2009/06/writings-of-robin-woodsworth-carlsen_17.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 1:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: When he felt like using irony, he used irony. Congratulations, you are the first governor of the Age of Enlightenment. The Sunnyside Drama: The First Three Years of Enlightenment by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen It's pretty hard to get copies of this anymore but these were letters written to his personal friends. It was the first book I read of his and was quite interesting. It gave me a pretty good glimpse into the personal, intimate aspect of his relationships with his friends and how an enlightened regular western Canadian guy spent his time with a small group of people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:29 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Take another look. If, say, Barry and Curtis had written those posts, do you think you'd still have been fooled? My answer: Nothing that Barry or Curtis posts to FFL is to be taken seriously, so I don't think I would be fooled if Barry all of a sudden started supporting Judy. I would think Barry is smoking something just like Robin was on something - who knows what? Anyone else is welcome to respond to this question as well. So, let's review what we know: Apparently Robin took FFL seriously, so he spent probably hours and hours composing some of his posts. But, nobody took him seriously except Judy. When he realized that Curtis wasn't taking him seriously, Robin quit the group. Then, Robin came back to try and hoodwink Barry by posting a parody, in a conspiracy with Judy, to hoodwink the group by posing as Barry's supporter. Now Judy is upset because she thinks Richard took Robin's post seriously - but it looks like Judy was hoodwinked by Richard - it was a trick posting, a parody sent by Richard, to hoodwink Judy back - and it worked. Judy got hoodwinked for her hoodwinking. Now we all know that Judy and Robin are hoodwinkers, posers, who post fibs and lie all the time. Nothing they post should be taken seriously - they are trolls. Are we agreed so far? My comment: So, don't take anything seriously that anyone posts to FFL. Could you define seriously?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Anti-Robin Carlsen Jihad
On 2/10/2014 9:07 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: I guess it just solidifies my belief that human beings don't like to be thrust into the unknown - it seems to make them cranky and disagreeable. Anyone who reads Robin's posts would be upset because he is so honest in his opinions - you'd think Robin was telling the brutal truth - to wake you up from your metaphysical slumber. Some people just can't take the truth very gracefully and sometimes they even resent it - they make up ways to protest the truth, saying it was just a parody, an irony, a joke. They just can't take the truth even when the truth is staring them right in the face. Go figure. The truth is, truth can't be put into words, so we tell half-truths or lie just to shock and hoodwink people - it's an old Sufi trick. And then I as if woke up. The spell was broken. I knew myself to have always existed. All my suffering, all my strivings, time, space, personal history was but a dream. There had never been anything but the light of consciousness. I had never been born nor would I ever die. Something disappeared forever, and I later came to know what that was. Something continued to form the apparent boundaries of Robin but the ego that had previously had so much to say about my sensation and experience of the world was now the individuated expression of what was the unmanifest reality of God. - Robin Carlsen
