Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
In a message dated 8/1/07 5:45:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently Obama wants to finish the job Bush abandoned for his > illegal and bungled catastrophic war in Iraq. Osama bin Laden and his > original Al Qaeda are the ones responsible for 9/11. Remember? Yes. Henry Kissinger had the same rational for going into Cambodia, a country we weren't at war with, yet whose territory was harboring enemy combatants. Same rationale, different time. And Pakistan has a friendly but very unstable government. Should American forces invade Pakistan looking for Al Qaeda we better be prepared to get in a war in Pakistan because we can't leave it to radical Islamists who'll then have an Atomic bomb. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
In a message dated 8/1/07 6:26:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pakastan doesn't control the territory where these asswholes hide out. It's not the people in the territories. It's the reaction of the people in the rest of Pakistan. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
Robert Gimbel wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert Gimbel wrote: >> >>> (sniP) >>> >>> First off I have never bought that Bin Laden had anything to do with 9-11. He didn't even the claim until days afterward (most likely > when > the funds were delivered to his Swiss account). Tim Osmon is Bin Laden's CIA name. Al-Queda or Al-CIA-da was trained by the CIA as a counteroffensive to the Russians in Afghanistan. More likely the shadow government or rogue group that pulled off 9-11 is more > likely to > drop a nuke on my pacifist head and yours too. Or more likely > over it > as an EMF bomb so our electronics no longer work and we go back > to the > dark ages. The real terrorists are in the White House, Snoopy. > Who is > scarier: Osama or Dick Cheney? Osama (most likely long dead) is a distraction. >>> So, I guess you also think that the suicide bombers is a made up story >>> too; >>> And the many bodies they find everyday, brutal people they are in >>> Iraq- no value of life whatsoever; >>> I think people's hatred of Bush/Cheney tends to cloud objective >>> > thinking; > >>> We do have people out there who want to destroy the United States and >>> Western civilization, don't ya think so? That's what they say, >>> > they want. > >>> An Islamic State for you and me? >>> I don't think so... >>> >> I didn't say there aren't those kind of people but using military >> > forces > >> the way we do is a little like using a sledgehammer to kill a gnat. >> There will be suicide bombers but they may not necessarily be Muslim. >> What about that? >> >> I think you're overly paranoid about Islam. Just like Christianity 85% >> of Muslims could give a damn about shoving their religion down your >> throat. They just want to live their lives in peace like you and me. >> BTW, have you ever met a Muslim? >> > > The last time I talked to a Muslim, was in the Pittsburg bus station, > about a year ago. He was from Palestine, and seemed like a regular > guy, with a wife, whom he had left back home, and two children. He > reminded me of myself, when I was younger. > I am talking about all Islamic people. > They have no leaders; The Islamic people in general have no leader who > is proclaiming peace; They mock Jesus, and his message of peace. > The one's who are willing to commit suicide, are possessed with > demonic evil spirit, not the Holy Spirit, not the Spirit of Love. > The are filled with hatred and dream of destruction- this spirit > chooses anyone who prays to it. > People like Hitler, Charlie Manson, Osama bin Laden, and many others > now, and in the past. They lust for power for power sake. > They lie, cheat, steal, murder, commit adultery, and mock God in > everyway they can. > They are possessed with evil. > And sometimes, most times, they bring destruction on themselves... Sounds like the average American.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Gimbel wrote: > > (sniP) > > > >> First off I have never bought that Bin Laden had anything to do with > >> 9-11. He didn't even the claim until days afterward (most likely when > >> the funds were delivered to his Swiss account). Tim Osmon is Bin > >> Laden's CIA name. Al-Queda or Al-CIA-da was trained by the CIA as a > >> counteroffensive to the Russians in Afghanistan. More likely the > >> shadow government or rogue group that pulled off 9-11 is more likely to > >> drop a nuke on my pacifist head and yours too. Or more likely over it > >> as an EMF bomb so our electronics no longer work and we go back to the > >> dark ages. The real terrorists are in the White House, Snoopy. Who is > >> scarier: Osama or Dick Cheney? Osama (most likely long dead) is a > >> distraction. > >> > > > > So, I guess you also think that the suicide bombers is a made up story > > too; > > And the many bodies they find everyday, brutal people they are in > > Iraq- no value of life whatsoever; > > I think people's hatred of Bush/Cheney tends to cloud objective thinking; > > We do have people out there who want to destroy the United States and > > Western civilization, don't ya think so? That's what they say, they want. > > An Islamic State for you and me? > > I don't think so... > I didn't say there aren't those kind of people but using military forces > the way we do is a little like using a sledgehammer to kill a gnat. > There will be suicide bombers but they may not necessarily be Muslim. > What about that? > > I think you're overly paranoid about Islam. Just like Christianity 85% > of Muslims could give a damn about shoving their religion down your > throat. They just want to live their lives in peace like you and me. > BTW, have you ever met a Muslim? The last time I talked to a Muslim, was in the Pittsburg bus station, about a year ago. He was from Palestine, and seemed like a regular guy, with a wife, whom he had left back home, and two children. He reminded me of myself, when I was younger. I am talking about all Islamic people. They have no leaders; The Islamic people in general have no leader who is proclaiming peace; They mock Jesus, and his message of peace. The one's who are willing to commit suicide, are possessed with demonic evil spirit, not the Holy Spirit, not the Spirit of Love. The are filled with hatred and dream of destruction- this spirit chooses anyone who prays to it. People like Hitler, Charlie Manson, Osama bin Laden, and many others now, and in the past. They lust for power for power sake. They lie, cheat, steal, murder, commit adultery, and mock God in everyway they can. They are possessed with evil. And sometimes, most times, they bring destruction on themselves... >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
Robert Gimbel wrote: > (sniP) > >> First off I have never bought that Bin Laden had anything to do with >> 9-11. He didn't even the claim until days afterward (most likely when >> the funds were delivered to his Swiss account). Tim Osmon is Bin >> Laden's CIA name. Al-Queda or Al-CIA-da was trained by the CIA as a >> counteroffensive to the Russians in Afghanistan. More likely the >> shadow government or rogue group that pulled off 9-11 is more likely to >> drop a nuke on my pacifist head and yours too. Or more likely over it >> as an EMF bomb so our electronics no longer work and we go back to the >> dark ages. The real terrorists are in the White House, Snoopy. Who is >> scarier: Osama or Dick Cheney? Osama (most likely long dead) is a >> distraction. >> > > So, I guess you also think that the suicide bombers is a made up story > too; > And the many bodies they find everyday, brutal people they are in > Iraq- no value of life whatsoever; > I think people's hatred of Bush/Cheney tends to cloud objective thinking; > We do have people out there who want to destroy the United States and > Western civilization, don't ya think so? That's what they say, they want. > An Islamic State for you and me? > I don't think so... I didn't say there aren't those kind of people but using military forces the way we do is a little like using a sledgehammer to kill a gnat. There will be suicide bombers but they may not necessarily be Muslim. What about that? I think you're overly paranoid about Islam. Just like Christianity 85% of Muslims could give a damn about shoving their religion down your throat. They just want to live their lives in peace like you and me. BTW, have you ever met a Muslim?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
(sniP) > First off I have never bought that Bin Laden had anything to do with > 9-11. He didn't even the claim until days afterward (most likely when > the funds were delivered to his Swiss account). Tim Osmon is Bin > Laden's CIA name. Al-Queda or Al-CIA-da was trained by the CIA as a > counteroffensive to the Russians in Afghanistan. More likely the > shadow government or rogue group that pulled off 9-11 is more likely to > drop a nuke on my pacifist head and yours too. Or more likely over it > as an EMF bomb so our electronics no longer work and we go back to the > dark ages. The real terrorists are in the White House, Snoopy. Who is > scarier: Osama or Dick Cheney? Osama (most likely long dead) is a > distraction. So, I guess you also think that the suicide bombers is a made up story too; And the many bodies they find everyday, brutal people they are in Iraq- no value of life whatsoever; I think people's hatred of Bush/Cheney tends to cloud objective thinking; We do have people out there who want to destroy the United States and Western civilization, don't ya think so? That's what they say, they want. An Islamic State for you and me? I don't think so...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
Robert Gimbel wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> shempmcgurk wrote: >> >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 >>> >> I think this would be a mistake. Pakistan too is a sovereign country. >> Many liberals agree with my position. I was just listening to Ed >> Schultz say it would be a mistake. Let's elect someone who isn't into >> globalism, empire, corporatism and playing war. >> >> > > > This is so naive... > Maybe we should wait until bin Laden flies to Vegas, so we can get him > when he's in Vegas. > Pakastan doesn't control the territory where these asswholes hide out. > I can't understand how we could spend 100's of Billions of Dollars to > invade Iraq, and not go accross the porous border into Pakastan. > It almost seems that Osama bin Laden is viewed as some kind of Nazi > Fascist Saviour, and I assure you, he is not. > He is an evil genuis, and should have been destoyed, in November of > 2001, in Tora Bora... > This isn't playing games- this is protecting life. > As this one- Osama bin Laden would love to drop a nuke right on your > pacifist head. First off I have never bought that Bin Laden had anything to do with 9-11. He didn't even the claim until days afterward (most likely when the funds were delivered to his Swiss account). Tim Osmon is Bin Laden's CIA name. Al-Queda or Al-CIA-da was trained by the CIA as a counteroffensive to the Russians in Afghanistan. More likely the shadow government or rogue group that pulled off 9-11 is more likely to drop a nuke on my pacifist head and yours too. Or more likely over it as an EMF bomb so our electronics no longer work and we go back to the dark ages. The real terrorists are in the White House, Snoopy. Who is scarier: Osama or Dick Cheney? Osama (most likely long dead) is a distraction.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 > > I think this would be a mistake. Pakistan too is a sovereign country. > > Many liberals agree with my position. I was just listening to Ed > > Schultz say it would be a mistake. Let's elect someone who isn't into > > globalism, empire, corporatism and playing war. > > > > > This is so naive... > Maybe we should wait until bin Laden flies to Vegas, so we can get him > when he's in Vegas. I hear he stays at Caesar's but he doesn't gamble. He spends half his time at the Forum shops (he particularly likes Wolfgang Puck's new place because there isn't any pork on the menu) and the other half pool-side. This pisses off the management because, for years, they comped him his suite. > Pakastan doesn't control the territory where these asswholes hide out. > I can't understand how we could spend 100's of Billions of Dollars to > invade Iraq, and not go accross the porous border into Pakastan. > It almost seems that Osama bin Laden is viewed as some kind of Nazi > Fascist Saviour, and I assure you, he is not. > He is an evil genuis, and should have been destoyed, in November of > 2001, in Tora Bora... > This isn't playing games- this is protecting life. > As this one- Osama bin Laden would love to drop a nuke right on your > pacifist head. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > shempmcgurk wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 > I think this would be a mistake. Pakistan too is a sovereign country. > Many liberals agree with my position. I was just listening to Ed > Schultz say it would be a mistake. Let's elect someone who isn't into > globalism, empire, corporatism and playing war. > This is so naive... Maybe we should wait until bin Laden flies to Vegas, so we can get him when he's in Vegas. Pakastan doesn't control the territory where these asswholes hide out. I can't understand how we could spend 100's of Billions of Dollars to invade Iraq, and not go accross the porous border into Pakastan. It almost seems that Osama bin Laden is viewed as some kind of Nazi Fascist Saviour, and I assure you, he is not. He is an evil genuis, and should have been destoyed, in November of 2001, in Tora Bora... This isn't playing games- this is protecting life. As this one- Osama bin Laden would love to drop a nuke right on your pacifist head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 > > > Apparently Obama wants to finish the job Bush abandoned for his > illegal and bungled catastrophic war in Iraq. Osama bin Laden and his > original Al Qaeda are the ones responsible for 9/11. Remember? Yes. Henry Kissinger had the same rational for going into Cambodia, a country we weren't at war with, yet whose territory was harboring enemy combatants. Same rationale, different time. > > > "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed > these acts and those who harbor them." > -- 2001 Bush > http://www.suntimes.com/news/quicktakes/490438,CST-NWS-qt31.article > > "I find it troubling that al-Qaida terrorists are being harbored in > tribal regions of Pakistan." > -- 2007 Bush > http://www.suntimes.com/news/quicktakes/490438,CST-NWS-qt31.article >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 > > > > This is not true: > Barak Obama is not a war monger. > The definition of a war monger is one who starts a war with no end. > If Obama wants to go into the area in Pakastan where there are > suicidal homocidal plotting anti- semetic, anti-Israel, anti- American, > anti-life; > Then what to do? > Go in there and do to them what they wish- they wish to die? > Then kill them before they can kill millions... > Just think how many lives would have been saved,, how many sufferings > would have been avoided: > If someone had the balls to assasinate Hitler, in 1934? > Get It? ...kinda like the rational for GWB going into Iraq...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 Apparently Obama wants to finish the job Bush abandoned for his illegal and bungled catastrophic war in Iraq. Osama bin Laden and his original Al Qaeda are the ones responsible for 9/11. Remember? "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them." -- 2001 Bush http://www.suntimes.com/news/quicktakes/490438,CST-NWS-qt31.article "I find it troubling that al-Qaida terrorists are being harbored in tribal regions of Pakistan." -- 2007 Bush http://www.suntimes.com/news/quicktakes/490438,CST-NWS-qt31.article
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barak Obama, Democrat, War-Monger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070801/ap_on_el_pr/obama_terrorism_7 > This is not true: Barak Obama is not a war monger. The definition of a war monger is one who starts a war with no end. If Obama wants to go into the area in Pakastan where there are suicidal homocidal plotting anti- semetic, anti-Israel, anti-American, anti-life; Then what to do? Go in there and do to them what they wish- they wish to die? Then kill them before they can kill millions... Just think how many lives would have been saved,, how many sufferings would have been avoided: If someone had the balls to assasinate Hitler, in 1934? Get It?
