on it
below.
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Xeno,
I'm a truth seeker.
Based on what you say here, John, I would suggest
Aha. FINALLY, JR is able to admit what he believes, and why. I'll riff on it
below.
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan
Xeno,
I'm a truth seeker. There was a valid reason why the rishis and prophets of
the past have written books like the Bible, BGita and Srimad Bhagavatam. IMO,
they were conveying their realization of truth through their meditation and
contemplation. Some stories in the Bible, like the
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that thinking
Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks everyone in India takes
them literally. But MJ has never been
: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that
thinking Indians
There is a lot of research that indicates most, if not all these books are
compilations of earlier material, whether written or orally transmitted. This
does not imply they are corrupt or without value.
Also the human mind's ability to see a story in a metaphorical way can
override a
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that
thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks
everyone in India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India
and I'm sure the place would come as a shock to him.
On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM,
JR might be a literalist. I certainly am not. I have encountered Christian
groups that interpret scripture metaphorically and speak of consciousness
rather than entities such as Moses or Jesus who are going to save your ass if
you believe in them. Some people just seem to be unable to interpret
New Jersey. Hope is
not lost.
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts
Apparently Barry believes in Buddhas, reincarnation, karma and apparently he
also believes in the Tibetan 'bardo state. So, what is the difference between
believing in Buddhas, Bodhisattvas and Tibetan demons, and believing in God and
Christian angels and Satan? Can you explain cognitive
Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview
is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are
interperted literaly.
Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more
metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative.
This leads to confusion and
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Establishing the historicity of various religious characters today is pretty
much impossible. Of the following
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Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they
seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the
Illuminatus! triology of Shea
. :-)
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Establishing the historicity of various religious characters today is
pretty much
You know, of course, that all of the morphogenic feel-good vibes you speak of
below can be attributed to mood-making and the placebo effect, right?
For example, at a cathedral in the south of France which is supposed to have
the skull of Mary Magdalene as a relic, a somewhat skeptical priest
to be like us.
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I am aware
: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
One of the things I find interesting and amusing is the tales of the gods
and goddesses in India, not to mention the tale of the enlightened sages all
ascribe very human emotions like anger, jealousy, fear
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Re acceptance of Jesus as Savior immediately - then and there - wipes out
all of one's sins.:
Have you ever glanced into the literature on Pure Land Buddhism
Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem
to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the
Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention
of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Establishing the historicity of various religious characters today is pretty
much impossible
the other-power path.
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Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 2:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Re acceptance of Jesus as Savior immediately - then and there - wipes out
all
JR,
I don't think you get it. If you do your own research, you find out things, if
you just accept what people tell you, you don't find the answers. Exactly what
are the same questions Barry has been asking for years? He seems to have come
to his own conclusions about many things. If you say
enlightenment. :-)
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Establishing the historicity of various religious characters today
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
It's about the tradition of which MMY is a part of. Krishna is mentioned
in the Gita and in the Srimad Bhagavatam. I believe there's wisdom contained
in these books
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
I would say the line of gurus that MMY came from, specifically the
Shankaracharya. In effect, it's the tradition that spawned the BGita and the
Shrimad Bhagavatam
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Pastor Barry,
I said below that I did NOT research the matter personally.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
John, we've all
It's a clear case of of cognitive dissonance - the discomfort experienced when
someone simultaneously holds two or more conflicting beliefs or two or more
opposing ideas both at the same time.
Sometimes, it can be jarring to read the raw truth on a computer screen. There
a hundreds of demons
I like your logic, Turq, and agree with it: That's a prevalent problem with
all fundamentalist religions and cultsas soon as one spells out the truth
in a limited set of dogmatic statements; there are most often errors that crop
up once the reader is boxed into such belief systems. ...
Right, but Hayley Kiyoko exists. She plays a forensic specialist on CSI-Cyber:
...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayley_Kiyoko
...
As to the other illustrious persons, FFL is supposed to be a Spiritual -
oriented forum, not one devoted to historical facts; in which case the
objective is to make
Re acceptance of Jesus as Savior immediately - then and there - wipes out all
of one's sins.:
Have you ever glanced into the literature on Pure Land Buddhism? It
differentiates between an *other-power* in the spiritual life, in which we
respond to a source outside ourselves, and a
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:07 PM
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MJ,
I'm paraphrasing what Krishna said to Arjuna, who was reluctant in fighting his
relatives in the battle of Kurukshetra.
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If you don't
just a man or an avatar of Vishnu?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
MJ,
I'm paraphrasing what Krishna said to Arjuna, who
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
It's about the tradition of which MMY is a part of. Krishna is mentioned in
the Gita and in the Srimad Bhagavatam. I believe there's wisdom contained in
these books.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
All right
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Pastor Barry,
I said below that I did NOT research the matter personally.
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How many people captured and executed by the Islamic State successfully
fought off the result? Zero. You seem to have a disconnect between your
thoughts and what happens in the world.
Duh. You're wasting your time
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:07 AM
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MJ,
I'm paraphrasing what Krishna said to Arjuna, who was reluctant in fighting his
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
MJ,
I'm paraphrasing what Krishna said to Arjuna, who was reluctant in fighting his
relatives in the battle of Kurukshetra.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
If you don't fight, then you're deluded or a coward and deserve
the truth of what we say, most of us would be in a pretty sorry
state.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:24 AM
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Xeno
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From: anartax
about Krishna cuz it
was Marshy doin' the talkin'?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:13 PM
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MMY believes Krishna
or an avatar of Vishnu?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
MJ,
I'm paraphrasing what Krishna said to Arjuna, who was reluctant
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:13 PM
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MMY believes Krishna is an incarnation of Vishnu here on Earth. I personally
have not researched
I am not confused at all. Of course I do not agree with your statements. If
someone killed me for reasons unknown to me, not only would I be unable to call
the deed anything, because I would be dead, there would be no known information
available to me, even supposing that such data could pass
24, 2015 3:14 AM
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About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens. One method of reducing those killings is to bomb
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:34 PM
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Xeno,
I would assume that you would fight to save your life if the Islamic State
rebels got a hold of you to cut your head off as propaganda
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About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens. One method of reducing
Everyone knows that Pastor Barry is confused about the nature of human free
will and what makes acts right, or not. The only reason anyone would believe in
free will would be because they believe they know right from wrong. Otherwise,
everything would be determined. It's not complicated.
Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility, such as
through procrastination, stubbornness, sullenness, or deliberate or repeated
failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly)
responsible.
This does seem confusing. Go figure.
The will itself, strictly speaking, has no determining ground; insofar as it
can determine choice, it is instead practical reason itself. - I. Kant
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
I am not confused at all. Of course I do not
that gives you
such a judgmental and combative feeling about all this?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Xeno,
I would assume
] Re: Could it be...Satan?
About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens. One method of reducing those killings is to bomb or send
troops to kill the members
of US
troops killed during this period was 4,491.
Now, JR, please tell me. Was that good or evil?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:14 AM
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Xeno,
Hypothetically, those people who witnessed your death would know that you were
killed indiscriminately by an evil doer. If there is an afterlife, you would
know why an evil doer killed you.
Your assumption that your death was orchestrated by Zeus is misleading and is
inconsistent
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Xeno,
Hypothetically, those people who witnessed your death would know that you were
killed indiscriminately by an evil doer. If there is an afterlife, you would
know why an evil doer killed you.
Others knowing how I died, does
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens
, March 24, 2015 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens. One method of reducing those killings
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by
other people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This
is what happens. One method
PM
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Xeno,
I would assume that you would fight to save your life if the Islamic State
rebels got a hold of you to cut your head off as propaganda for their cause.
Are you going to assume that you're imagining things? As you've seen
Someone needs to tell Barry that Sam Harris says the idea of free will is
incoherent. Humans are not free and no sense can be given to the concept that
they might be. If humans had free will they would be as gods, able to cause
change at will. Go figure.
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be...Satan?
jr_esq, Barry's job is not 'pastor', it's more like 'pester'. It is a
highly dignified profession, the exact
Xeno,
You appear to be confused in determining what is good and evil. A person,
who who treats you well, is a person who has done a good thing for you and is
considered to be a good person. However, if someone kills you for reasons
unknown to you, you would call that an evil deed. The
Pastor Barry,
If you say there is no good or evil, how do explain the fact that groups,
like the Islamic State, kill innocent people in Iraq and Syria?
possibly evil. Even
though evil doesn't exist.
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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 4:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
jr_esq, Barry's job is not 'pastor', it's more
About 12,000 or so people die every day. About 10% of those are killed by other
people one way or another. The Islamic State is one of those ways. This is what
happens. One method of reducing those killings is to bomb or send troops to
kill the members of the Islamic State, by substituting
For the non-dualist, God or Satan are not physical objects of knowledge but
consciousness itself - and parts of our own psyche. Everyone has a little God
and a little Satan in them. Apparently you haven't fully realized the non-dual
reality, since you're still dividing data and ideas up into
Pastor Barry,
Do you believe that human beings have a free will to choose between good and
evil?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, or
whatever you choose to call Him/It. Be warned. :-)
jr_esq, Barry's job is not 'pastor', it's more like 'pester'. It is a highly
dignified profession, the exact opposite of what a 'pastor' does
(enlightenment, in other words, is a great undoing, undoing what pastors try to
do). Barry writes quickly, but sometimes he makes minor spelling errors,
Xeno,
I'm using the title, Pastor, since he used it to describe himself. Also,
you seem to think that good and evil do not exist. So, how do you explain what
Adolph Hitler did during the Holocaust? And, more recently, how do you explain
the behavior of the Islamic State rebels who killed
: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Pastor Barry,
Do you believe that human beings have a free will to choose between good and
evil?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer
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