Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-08-01 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 8/1/07 12:25:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Here's  just some of what the Republicans have
 obstructed: raising the minimum  wage; ethics
 reform; immigration reform; Medicare
 prescription  drug reform; electronic campaign
 funding disclosure; funding for  renewable energy;
 funding for the intelligence community;
  appointing conferees on the 9/11 Commission
  recommendations.



Actually the Republicans had far better Ideas on many of these issues.  Ideas 
with teeth in them that the Democrats stripped out of legislation or  
prevented to begin with.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-31 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 7/30/07 10:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That 60  vote majority came back to bite the Dems in
 the ass, didn't  it?

You mean, are the Republicans such hypocrites
as to use the  filibuster after condemning it
and threatening to ban it to keep the  Democrats
from using it when they were in the minority?

Goes without  saying. It seems there's no
hypocrisy that's beyond the  Republicans.

As you almost certainly know, the Republicans
are on  their way to *tripling* the average
number of filibusters in the preceding  several
decades:



Ah, but Judy, they didn't ban it, did they? And of course you know the  
difference in how the Republicans used the filibuster and the Democrats used 
it.  
The Republicans used it to protect the power of the Presidency put forth in the 
 constitution, to select federal judges, establish foreign policy and to act 
as  Commander in Chief. The Democrats have used the filibuster to stall and 
delay  and now want to dictate foreign policy from the Congressional level as 
well as  interfere in the duties of the Commander in Chief.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/30/07 10:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 That 60  vote majority came back to bite the Dems in
  the ass, didn't  it?
 
 You mean, are the Republicans such hypocrites
 as to use the  filibuster after condemning it
 and threatening to ban it to keep the  Democrats
 from using it when they were in the minority?
 
 Goes without  saying. It seems there's no
 hypocrisy that's beyond the  Republicans.
 
 As you almost certainly know, the Republicans
 are on  their way to *tripling* the average
 number of filibusters in the preceding  several
 decades:
 
 Ah, but Judy, they didn't ban it, did they? And of course
 you know the difference in how the Republicans used the
 filibuster and the Democrats used it. The Republicans used
 it to protect the power of the Presidency put forth in the 
 constitution, to select federal judges, establish foreign
 policy and to act as Commander in Chief. The Democrats have
 used the filibuster to stall and delay and now want to dictate
 foreign policy from the Congressional level as well as
 interfere in the duties of the Commander in Chief.

MDixon, you have Kool-Aid poisoning. What a ludicrous
litany.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  

   In a message dated 7/30/07 10:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight 
Time,  
   jstein@ writes:
   
   That 60  vote majority came back to bite the Dems in
the ass, didn't  it?
   
   You mean, are the Republicans such hypocrites
   as to use the  filibuster after condemning it
   and threatening to ban it to keep the  Democrats
   from using it when they were in the minority?
   
   Goes without  saying. It seems there's no
   hypocrisy that's beyond the  Republicans.
   
   As you almost certainly know, the Republicans
   are on  their way to *tripling* the average
   number of filibusters in the preceding  several
   decades:
   
   Ah, but Judy, they didn't ban it, did they? And of course
   you know the difference in how the Republicans used the
   filibuster and the Democrats used it. The Republicans used
   it to protect the power of the Presidency put forth in the 
   constitution, to select federal judges, establish foreign
   policy and to act as Commander in Chief. The Democrats have
   used the filibuster to stall and delay and now want to dictate
   foreign policy from the Congressional level as well as
   interfere in the duties of the Commander in Chief.
  
  MDixon, you have Kool-Aid poisoning. What a ludicrous
  litany.
 
 Here's just some of what the Republicans have
 obstructed: raising the minimum wage; ethics
 reform; immigration reform; Medicare
 prescription drug reform; electronic campaign
 funding disclosure; funding for renewable energy;
 funding for the intelligence community;
 appointing conferees on the 9/11 Commission
 recommendations.
 
 The strategy of being obstructionist can work or
 failSo far it's working for us.--Republican
 Whip Senator Trent Lott, April 7, 2007
 
 http://democrats.senate.gov/journal/entry.cfm?id=277868

And here's a little cherry to top off this pile
of stinking garbage, from Politico's blog The Crypt:

Stevens threatens to block ethics bill 

Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, whose home back in Alaska was raided by 
federal investigators Monday in a wide-ranging corruption 
investigation, has threatened to place a hold on the Democratic-
drafted ethics legislation just passed by the House and expected on 
the Senate floor by week's end. 

The senator told a closed session of fellow Republicans today, 
including Vice President Dick Cheney, that he was upset that the 
measure would interfere with his travel to and from Alaska – and 
vowed to block it. 

And Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho), confirming Steven's threat, said 
bluntly: There could be a lot of holds on this bill.

http://tinyurl.com/2xygjw




[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/30/07 10:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  jstein@ writes:
  
  That 60  vote majority came back to bite the Dems in
   the ass, didn't  it?
  
  You mean, are the Republicans such hypocrites
  as to use the  filibuster after condemning it
  and threatening to ban it to keep the  Democrats
  from using it when they were in the minority?
  
  Goes without  saying. It seems there's no
  hypocrisy that's beyond the  Republicans.
  
  As you almost certainly know, the Republicans
  are on  their way to *tripling* the average
  number of filibusters in the preceding  several
  decades:
  
  Ah, but Judy, they didn't ban it, did they? And of course
  you know the difference in how the Republicans used the
  filibuster and the Democrats used it. The Republicans used
  it to protect the power of the Presidency put forth in the 
  constitution, to select federal judges, establish foreign
  policy and to act as Commander in Chief. The Democrats have
  used the filibuster to stall and delay and now want to dictate
  foreign policy from the Congressional level as well as
  interfere in the duties of the Commander in Chief.
 
 MDixon, you have Kool-Aid poisoning. What a ludicrous
 litany.

Here's just some of what the Republicans have
obstructed: raising the minimum wage; ethics
reform; immigration reform; Medicare
prescription drug reform; electronic campaign
funding disclosure; funding for renewable energy;
funding for the intelligence community;
appointing conferees on the 9/11 Commission
recommendations.

The strategy of being obstructionist can work or
failSo far it's working for us.--Republican
Whip Senator Trent Lott, April 7, 2007

http://democrats.senate.gov/journal/entry.cfm?id=277868




[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/26/07 8:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  j
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 One of  the major reasons Congress doesn't have better
 ratings is that Democrats  were elected to do something
 about the Bush disaster, and they haven't been  able to
 accomplish much yet because of all the crap the
 administration  and the Republicans have been pulling,
 refusing to obey subpoenas,  withholding documents and
 other information on the grounds of executive  privilege,
 and filibustering anything the Democrats try to do so
 that a  60-vote majority is required to get anything
 passed. Not to mention  instructing Attorney General
 Gonzales to stonewall and lie in hearings, and  blocking
 any attempt to establish contempt of Congress  
 proceedings.
 
 That 60 vote majority came back to bite the Dems in
 the ass, didn't  it?

You mean, are the Republicans such hypocrites
as to use the filibuster after condemning it
and threatening to ban it to keep the Democrats
from using it when they were in the minority?

Goes without saying. It seems there's no
hypocrisy that's beyond the Republicans.

As you almost certainly know, the Republicans
are on their way to *tripling* the average
number of filibusters in the preceding several
decades:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/18218.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  All  polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less 
  support  for Congress than for the President.
  
  Fact. Deal with  it.
 
 Shemp, say, Oops, Judy, you're right, Bush's ratings
 are now  lower than those of Congress, and it said so
 right in the very article I  was commenting on. I guess
 I really should read before I comment on so I  don't
 look so incredibly foolish.
 
 As to other facts: In April, a  USA Today/Gallup poll
 had Bush at 38 percent, Congress at 33 percent  (5
 points, not 10, difference). The same poll on May
 15 had Bush at 33  and Congress at 29 (4 points, not
 10, difference).
 
 Shemp, say, Oh,  gee, I got that wrong too; Bush's
 ratings have *not* been consistently 10  points
 higher than those of Congress. I guess I should have
 checked  before spouting off and calling my blooper
 a 'fact.'
 
 In any case,  here's another *real* fact for you:
 Congress's approval ratings are  traditionally lower
 than those of the president, no matter which  party
 is in power. For the president's ratings to sink
 lower than those  of Congress is almost unheard-of.
 
 Lets look at a slightly more recent poll since
 April or May._Americans' Confidence in  Congress
 at All-Time Low_ 
 (http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27946)  

Your point, of course, doesn't contest
any of mine, nor does it validate Shemp's
misstatement.

The poll in question, of course, was issued
this past Wednesday, yet here you are
pretending that somehow a June poll is
more up to date.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 7/26/07 8:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  j
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

One of  the major reasons Congress doesn't have better
ratings is that Democrats  were elected to do something
about the Bush disaster, and they haven't been  able to
accomplish much yet because of all the crap the
administration  and the Republicans have been pulling,
refusing to obey subpoenas,  withholding documents and
other information on the grounds of executive  privilege,
and filibustering anything the Democrats try to do so
that a  60-vote majority is required to get anything
passed. Not to mention  instructing Attorney General
Gonzales to stonewall and lie in hearings, and  blocking
any attempt to establish contempt of Congress  
proceedings.



That 60 vote majority came back to bite the Dems in the ass, didn't  it?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 All  polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less 
 support  for Congress than for the President.
 
 Fact. Deal with  it.

Shemp, say, Oops, Judy, you're right, Bush's ratings
are now  lower than those of Congress, and it said so
right in the very article I  was commenting on. I guess
I really should read before I comment on so I  don't
look so incredibly foolish.

As to other facts: In April, a  USA Today/Gallup poll
had Bush at 38 percent, Congress at 33 percent  (5
points, not 10, difference). The same poll on May
15 had Bush at 33  and Congress at 29 (4 points, not
10, difference).

Shemp, say, Oh,  gee, I got that wrong too; Bush's
ratings have *not* been consistently 10  points
higher than those of Congress. I guess I should have
checked  before spouting off and calling my blooper
a 'fact.'

In any case,  here's another *real* fact for you:
Congress's approval ratings are  traditionally lower
than those of the president, no matter which  party
is in power. For the president's ratings to sink
lower than those  of Congress is almost unheard-of.




Lets look at a slightly more recent poll since April or May._Americans' 
Confidence in  Congress at All-Time Low_ 
(http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27946)  



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-27 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

As to  other facts: In April, a USA Today/Gallup poll
had Bush at 38 percent,  Congress at 33 percent (5
points, not 10, difference). The same poll on  May
15 had Bush at 33 and Congress at 29 (4 points, not
10,  difference).

Shemp, say, Oh, gee, I got that wrong too;  Bush's
ratings have *not* been consistently 10 points
higher than those  of Congress. I guess I should have
checked before spouting off and calling  my blooper
a 'fact.'

In any case, here's another *real* fact for  you:
Congress's approval ratings are traditionally lower
than those of  the president, no matter which party
is in power. For the president's  ratings to sink
lower than those of Congress is almost  unheard-of


One other comment_Charleston  Daily Mail_ 
(http://www.dailymail.com/story/Opinion/2007072075/Don-Surber-Democrats-achieve-14-percent-approval/)
  



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   The disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by
   the disfavor for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll 
   numbers are even worse than Bush's...
   
   Funny, that.
  
  From the article:
  
   And the president's team takes solace in the fact that the
   public holds Congress in low esteem, too. More than half 
   disapproved of Congress generally, and Democrats in
   particular, in the latest Post-ABC survey, though their
   ratings were still better than Bush's.
  
  Funny indeed. You'd better write the Post and tell
  them they got it wrong.
 
 All polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less 
 support for Congress than for the President.
 
 Fact.  Deal with it.

Shemp, say, Oops, Judy, you're right, Bush's ratings
are now lower than those of Congress, and it said so
right in the very article I was commenting on. I guess
I really should read before I comment on so I don't
look so incredibly foolish.

As to other facts: In April, a USA Today/Gallup poll
had Bush at 38 percent, Congress at 33 percent (5
points, not 10, difference). The same poll on May
15 had Bush at 33 and Congress at 29 (4 points, not
10, difference).

Shemp, say, Oh, gee, I got that wrong too; Bush's
ratings have *not* been consistently 10 points
higher than those of Congress. I guess I should have
checked before spouting off and calling my blooper
a 'fact.'

In any case, here's another *real* fact for you:
Congress's approval ratings are traditionally lower
than those of the president, no matter which party
is in power. For the president's ratings to sink
lower than those of Congress is almost unheard-of.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   The disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by
   the disfavor for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll 
   numbers are even worse than Bush's...
   
   Funny, that.
  
  From the article:
  
   And the president's team takes solace in the fact that the 
public 
   holds Congress in low esteem, too. More than half disapproved 
of 
   Congress generally, and Democrats in particular, in the latest 
 Post-
   ABC survey, though their ratings were still better than Bush's.
  
  Funny indeed. You'd better write the Post and tell
  them they got it wrong.
 
 
 
 All polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less 
 support for Congress than for the President.

Yes, you are right Shemp, those republicans still in congress are 
really messing it up for the country. 

Luckily Ron Paul is not one of them, and has wide democratic support 
for his bill to bring the troops home in 6 months. Not saying I 
agree with this bill, but after the mess in Iraq you guys made, it 
may be the only way. However even that won't work. The Iraqmire is 
an impossible quandry. No way out for you .

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 The disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by
 the disfavor for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll 
 numbers are even worse than Bush's...
 
 Funny, that.

From the article:

 And the president's team takes solace in the fact that the public 
 holds Congress in low esteem, too. More than half disapproved of 
 Congress generally, and Democrats in particular, in the latest Post-
 ABC survey, though their ratings were still better than Bush's.

Funny indeed. You'd better write the Post and tell
them they got it wrong.

One of the major reasons Congress doesn't have better
ratings is that Democrats were elected to do something
about the Bush disaster, and they haven't been able to
accomplish much yet because of all the crap the
administration and the Republicans have been pulling,
refusing to obey subpoenas, withholding documents and
other information on the grounds of executive privilege,
and filibustering anything the Democrats try to do so
that a 60-vote majority is required to get anything
passed. Not to mention instructing Attorney General
Gonzales to stonewall and lie in hearings, and blocking
any attempt to establish contempt of Congress 
proceedings.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-26 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 7/25/07 11:58:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by the 
disfavor  for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll numbers are 
even worse  than Bush's...



the last  I saw was 14% for Congress. Now that is  bad.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-26 Thread Peter

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/25/07 11:58:54 P.M. Central
 Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  disfavor for Bush registered by polls is
 surpassed only by the 
 disfavor  for the majority-controlled Congress whose
 poll numbers are 
 even worse  than Bush's...
 
 
 
 the last  I saw was 14% for Congress. Now that is 
 bad.

Let's just say that both the legislative and the
executive branches look like a bunch of clowns to the
american public.


 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When you behave like an arrogant, idiot asshole there
 are consequences, yes?

Is that a judgement? Is there possibly any projection in that
judgement? (Thats a non-judgemental and non-leading question. We like
you either way.)


 
 --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
  
  In Modern Era, Only Nixon and Truman Scored Worse,
  Just Barely
  By Peter Baker
  Washington Post Staff Writer
  Wednesday, July 25, 2007; A03
  
  President Bush is a competitive guy. But this is one
  contest he would rather lose. With 18 months left in
  office, he is in the running for most unpopular
  president in the history of modern polling.
  The latest Washington Post-ABC News survey shows
  that 65 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush's
  job performance, matching his all-time low.
  In polls conducted by The Post or Gallup going back
  to 1938, only twice has a president exceeded that
  level of public animosity -- Harry S. Truman, who
  hit 67 percent during the Korean War, and Richard M.
  Nixon, who hit 66 percent four days before
  resigning.
  The historic depth of Bush's public standing has
  whipsawed his White House, sapped his clout, drained
  his advisers, encouraged his enemies and jeopardized
  his legacy. Around the White House, aides make
  gallows-humor jokes about how they can alienate
  their remaining supporters -- at least those aides
  not heading for the door. Outside the White House,
  many former aides privately express anger and
  bitterness at their erstwhile colleagues, Bush and
  the fate of his presidency.
  Bush has been so down for so long that some advisers
  maintain it no longer bothers them much. It can
  even, they say, be liberating. Seeking the best
  interpretation for the president's predicament, they
  argue that Bush can do what he thinks is right
  without regard to political cost, pointing to
  decisions to send more U.S. troops to Iraq and to
  commute the sentence of I. Lewis Scooter Libby,
  Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff.
  But the president's unpopularity has left the White
  House to play mostly defense for the remainder of
  his term. With his immigration overhaul proposal
  dead, Bush's principal legislative hopes are to save
  his No Child Left Behind education program and to
  fend off attempts to force him to change course in
  Iraq. The emerging strategy is to play off a
  Congress that is also deeply unpopular and to look
  strong by vetoing spending bills.
  The president's low public standing has paralleled
  the disenchantment with the Iraq war, but some
  analysts said it goes beyond that, reflecting a
  broader unease with Bush's policies in a variety of
  areas. It isn't just the Iraq war, said Shirley
  Anne Warshaw, a presidential scholar at Gettysburg
  College. It's everything.
  Some analysts believe that even many war supporters
  deserted him because of his plan to open the door to
  legal status for illegal immigrants. You can do an
  unpopular war or you can do an unpopular immigration
  policy, said David Frum, a former Bush
  speechwriter. Not both.
  Yet Bush's political troubles seem to go beyond
  particular policies. Many presidents over the past
  70 years have faced greater or more immediate crises
  without falling as far in the public mind -- Vietnam
  claimed far more American lives than Iraq, the
  Iranian hostage crisis made the United States look
  impotent, race riots and desegregation tore the
  country apart, the oil embargo forced drivers to
  wait for hours to fill up, the Soviets seemed to
  threaten the nation's survival.
  It's astonishing, said Pat Caddell, who was
  President Jimmy Carter's pollster. It's hard to
  look at the situation today and say the country is
  absolutely 15 miles down in the hole. The economy's
  not that bad -- for some people it is, but not
  overall. Iraq is terribly handled, but it's not
  Vietnam; we're not losing 250 people a week. . . .
  We don't have that immediate crisis, yet the anxiety
  about the future is palpable. And the feeling about
  him is he's irrelevant to that. I think they've
  basically given up on him.
  That may stem in part from the changing nature of
  society. When Caddell's boss was president, there
  were three major broadcast networks. Today cable
  news, talk radio and the Internet have made
  information far more available, while providing easy
  outlets for rage and polarization. Public
  disapproval of Bush is not only broad but deep; 52
  percent of Americans strongly disapprove of his
  performance and 28 percent describe themselves as
  angry.
  A lot of the commentary that comes out of the
  Internet world is very harsh, said Frank J.
  Donatelli, White House political director for Ronald
  Reagan. That has a tendency to reinforce people's
  opinions and harden people's opinions.
  Carter and  Reagan at their worst moments did not
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-25 Thread shempmcgurk
The disfavor for Bush registered by polls is surpassed only by the 
disfavor for the majority-controlled Congress whose poll numbers are 
even worse than Bush's...

Funny, that.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
 
 In Modern Era, Only Nixon and Truman Scored Worse, Just Barely
 By Peter Baker
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Wednesday, July 25, 2007; A03
 
 President Bush is a competitive guy. But this is one contest he 
would rather lose. With 18 months left in office, he is in the 
running for most unpopular president in the history of modern polling.
 The latest Washington Post-ABC News survey shows that 65 percent of 
Americans disapprove of Bush's job performance, matching his all-time 
low.
 In polls conducted by The Post or Gallup going back to 1938, only 
twice has a president exceeded that level of public animosity -- 
Harry S. Truman, who hit 67 percent during the Korean War, and 
Richard M. Nixon, who hit 66 percent four days before resigning.
 The historic depth of Bush's public standing has whipsawed his 
White House, sapped his clout, drained his advisers, encouraged his 
enemies and jeopardized his legacy. Around the White House, aides 
make gallows-humor jokes about how they can alienate their remaining 
supporters -- at least those aides not heading for the door. Outside 
the White House, many former aides privately express anger and 
bitterness at their erstwhile colleagues, Bush and the fate of his 
presidency.
 Bush has been so down for so long that some advisers maintain it no 
longer bothers them much. It can even, they say, be liberating. 
Seeking the best interpretation for the president's predicament, they 
argue that Bush can do what he thinks is right without regard to 
political cost, pointing to decisions to send more U.S. troops to 
Iraq and to commute the sentence of I. Lewis Scooter Libby, Vice 
President Cheney's former chief of staff.
 But the president's unpopularity has left the White House to play 
mostly defense for the remainder of his term. With his immigration 
overhaul proposal dead, Bush's principal legislative hopes are to 
save his No Child Left Behind education program and to fend off 
attempts to force him to change course in Iraq. The emerging strategy 
is to play off a Congress that is also deeply unpopular and to look 
strong by vetoing spending bills.
 The president's low public standing has paralleled the 
disenchantment with the Iraq war, but some analysts said it goes 
beyond that, reflecting a broader unease with Bush's policies in a 
variety of areas. It isn't just the Iraq war, said Shirley Anne 
Warshaw, a presidential scholar at Gettysburg College. It's 
everything.
 Some analysts believe that even many war supporters deserted him 
because of his plan to open the door to legal status for illegal 
immigrants. You can do an unpopular war or you can do an unpopular 
immigration policy, said David Frum, a former Bush 
speechwriter. Not both.
 Yet Bush's political troubles seem to go beyond particular 
policies. Many presidents over the past 70 years have faced greater 
or more immediate crises without falling as far in the public mind -- 
Vietnam claimed far more American lives than Iraq, the Iranian 
hostage crisis made the United States look impotent, race riots and 
desegregation tore the country apart, the oil embargo forced drivers 
to wait for hours to fill up, the Soviets seemed to threaten the 
nation's survival.
 It's astonishing, said Pat Caddell, who was President Jimmy 
Carter's pollster. It's hard to look at the situation today and say 
the country is absolutely 15 miles down in the hole. The economy's 
not that bad -- for some people it is, but not overall. Iraq is 
terribly handled, but it's not Vietnam; we're not losing 250 people a 
week. . . . We don't have that immediate crisis, yet the anxiety 
about the future is palpable. And the feeling about him is he's 
irrelevant to that. I think they've basically given up on him.
 That may stem in part from the changing nature of society. When 
Caddell's boss was president, there were three major broadcast 
networks. Today cable news, talk radio and the Internet have made 
information far more available, while providing easy outlets for rage 
and polarization. Public disapproval of Bush is not only broad but 
deep; 52 percent of Americans strongly disapprove of his 
performance and 28 percent describe themselves as angry.
 A lot of the commentary that comes out of the Internet world is 
very harsh, said Frank J. Donatelli, White House political director 
for Ronald Reagan. That has a tendency to reinforce people's 
opinions and harden people's opinions.
 Carter and  Reagan at their worst moments did not face  a public as 
hostile as the one confronting Bush. Lyndon B. Johnson at the height 
of Vietnam had the disapproval of 52 percent of the public. Franklin 
D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy