[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread sparaig
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> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > 
> > 
> > Hindus are a tad odd when it comes to nudity...
> 
> They certainly are! I'm sure it comes from growing up
> in a very sexually repressed culture. They come to the
> US and go crazy.

This is ironic given some of the religious art, not to mention the Kama Sutra.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread Peter


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> Hindus are a tad odd when it comes to nudity...

They certainly are! I'm sure it comes from growing up
in a very sexually repressed culture. They come to the
US and go crazy.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread Peter


--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> scienceofabundance 
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for
> eating a an 
> ISKON-run 
> > > restaurant?
> > > >
> > > Yes, there was a time in the mid 1970's that
> about 43 people 
> were 
> > > banned from the dome for eating in a HK
> restaurant.  Twelve 
> others 
> > > were given suspensions for six months (they had
> been in a HK 
> > > restaurant, but they had not actually eaten
> anything). I can 
> give you 
> > > ALL the details if you like - it was a big issue
> at the time - I 
> am 
> > > surprised you have not heard about it.
> > >
> > 
> > Since they hadn't eaten anything they were
> exempt...
> > 
> > This is parody, right?
> 
> 
> Uh, Genius, there WERE no domes in the mid 1970's.

This has got to be a parody. As noted, no domes in the
mid 70's and since I was in the thick of it at MIU at
that time this would have been all the talk. Yes, a
parody.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
--snip--
> > >
> > 
> > Since they hadn't eaten anything they were exempt...
> > 
> > This is parody, right?
> 
> 
> Uh, Genius, there WERE no domes in the mid 1970's.
> >
 Well, _technically_, this is true, but that hardly takes away from 
the facts, right?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" 
along 
> > the 
> > > > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local 
> > Hari 
> > > > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > > > 
> > > > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those 
> >things --
> >  
> > > > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- 
> do 
> > you 
> > > > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > > > 
> > > If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> > > specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally 
> >asked 
> > > about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), 
> > because it 
> > > gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique 
> >which 
> > > does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM 
> > Teacher, I 
> > > don't really know what the reply would be.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Well!
> > 
> > I guess there's a benefit to being a NON-certified TM teacher!  
> >Now 
> > I can freely go to the HK temple because I am no longer 
> >technically 
> > a TM teacher!
> >
> 
> The re-cert and de-certification of the TMO.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/45444?
threaded=1
> 
> De-certification of the TMO, 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46041?l=1
> 
> Epilogue Re-cert, A lot of people off the hook with de-
certification:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/47012?l=1
> 
> Dear Shemp, i may add your post here for 'epilogue' context to the 
> story here.
> 
> Your friend in FF, -Doug


Your friend in Jesus, -Shemp


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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
 wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > > Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for eating a an 
ISKON-run 
> > restaurant?
> > >
> > Yes, there was a time in the mid 1970's that about 43 people 
were 
> > banned from the dome for eating in a HK restaurant.  Twelve 
others 
> > were given suspensions for six months (they had been in a HK 
> > restaurant, but they had not actually eaten anything). I can 
give you 
> > ALL the details if you like - it was a big issue at the time - I 
am 
> > surprised you have not heard about it.
> >
> 
> Since they hadn't eaten anything they were exempt...
> 
> This is parody, right?


Uh, Genius, there WERE no domes in the mid 1970's.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-11 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
> the 
> > > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local 
> Hari 
> > > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > > 
> > > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > > 
> > > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those 
things --
>  
> > > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- 
do 
> you 
> > > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > > 
> > If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> > specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally 
asked 
> > about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), 
> because it 
> > gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique 
which 
> > does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM 
> Teacher, I 
> > don't really know what the reply would be.
> >
> 
> 
> Well!
> 
> I guess there's a benefit to being a NON-certified TM teacher!  
Now 
> I can freely go to the HK temple because I am no longer 
technically 
> a TM teacher!

This is just one of the numerous benefits.
Ingegerd
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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> 
> > Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for eating a an ISKON-run 
> restaurant?
> >
> Yes, there was a time in the mid 1970's that about 43 people were 
> banned from the dome for eating in a HK restaurant.  Twelve others 
> were given suspensions for six months (they had been in a HK 
> restaurant, but they had not actually eaten anything). I can give you 
> ALL the details if you like - it was a big issue at the time - I am 
> surprised you have not heard about it.
>

Since they hadn't eaten anything they were exempt...

This is parody, right?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
 
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
> the 
> > > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local 
> Hari 
> > > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > > 
> > > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > > 
> > > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those 
>things --
>  
> > > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- 
do 
> you 
> > > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > > 
> > If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> > specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally 
>asked 
> > about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), 
> because it 
> > gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique 
>which 
> > does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM 
> Teacher, I 
> > don't really know what the reply would be.
> >
> 
> 
> Well!
> 
> I guess there's a benefit to being a NON-certified TM teacher!  
>Now 
> I can freely go to the HK temple because I am no longer 
>technically 
> a TM teacher!
>

The re-cert and de-certification of the TMO.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/45444?threaded=1

De-certification of the TMO, 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46041?l=1

Epilogue Re-cert, A lot of people off the hook with de-certification:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/47012?l=1

Dear Shemp, i may add your post here for 'epilogue' context to the 
story here.

Your friend in FF, -Doug






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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for eating a an ISKON-run 
restaurant?
>
Yes, there was a time in the mid 1970's that about 43 people were 
banned from the dome for eating in a HK restaurant.  Twelve others 
were given suspensions for six months (they had been in a HK 
restaurant, but they had not actually eaten anything). I can give you 
ALL the details if you like - it was a big issue at the time - I am 
surprised you have not heard about it.  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
> the 
> > > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local 
> Hari 
> > > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > > 
> > > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > > 
> > > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things --
>  
> > > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
> you 
> > > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > > 
> > If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> > specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally asked 
> > about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), 
> because it 
> > gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique which 
> > does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM 
> Teacher, I 
> > don't really know what the reply would be.
> >
> 
> 
> Well!
> 
> I guess there's a benefit to being a NON-certified TM teacher!  Now 
> I can freely go to the HK temple because I am no longer technically 
> a TM teacher!
>

And don't forget - you can check your son, (as long as your facing the
right direction)! 

JohnY
(with tongue in check...)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
>  
> > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
the 
> > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local 
Hari 
> > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > 
> > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > 
> > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things --
 
> > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
you 
> > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > 
> If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally asked 
> about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), 
because it 
> gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique which 
> does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM 
Teacher, I 
> don't really know what the reply would be.
>


Well!

I guess there's a benefit to being a NON-certified TM teacher!  Now 
I can freely go to the HK temple because I am no longer technically 
a TM teacher!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
>  
> > The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along the 
> > lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
> > Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> > 
> > I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> > 
> > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things -- 
> > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
> > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > 
> If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
> specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally asked 
> about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), because it 
> gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique which 
> does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM Teacher, I 
> don't really know what the reply would be.
>

TM teachers are a law unto themselves...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  
> > In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central
> > Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > The  worst thing I do that can be considered an
> > "offense" along the 
> > lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to
> > my local Hari 
> > Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
> > 
> > I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
> > 
> > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both
> > those things  -- 
> > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the
> > future -- do you  
> > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian
> > couple, here to give  
> > advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted
> > to go. Since they preferred  not 
> > to cook where they were staying they asked me to
> > take them to the local Hari  
> > Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I
> > mentioned it to the center  
> > management and asked them to explain I wasn't
> > available to drive them that day.  
> > Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas
> > that had come to  
> > Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to
> > go to a titty bar. There are  
> > other great stories out there I'm sure!
> 
> Tittie bar? Like a bosom bar?
> 

Hindus are a tad odd when it comes to nudity...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> > 
> > The  worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
> the 
> > lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
> > Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
> > 
> > I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
> > 
> > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things  -- 
> > plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
> you  
> > think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to 
> give  
> > advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since 
> they preferred  not 
> > to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the 
> local Hari  
> > Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal.
> 
> 
> 
> Wonderful!
> 
> Thanks for that piece of trivia, MDixon, you made my day!
> 
> 
> 
> > I mentioned it to the center  
> > management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive 
> them that day.  
> > Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come 
> to  
> > Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty 
> bar. There are  
> > other great stories out there I'm sure!
> >
>

Has anyone ever been banned from the Domes for eating a an ISKON-run restaurant?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 11:56:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
  wrote:> > In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. 
  Central> Daylight Time, > shempmcgurk@netscape.net 
  writes:> > The worst thing I do that can be considered 
  an> "offense" along the > lines considered above is that I 
  occasionally go to> my local Hari > Krishna temple for the 
  Sunday night feast.> > I also attend weekly yoga 
  classes.> > Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about 
  both> those things -- > plus, if I refused to stop those 
  activities in the> future -- do you > think I would be refused a 
  Dome badge?> > > > Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to 
  drive the Indian> couple, here to give > advanced techniques, 
  around where ever they wanted> to go. Since they preferred not > 
  to cook where they were staying they asked me to> take them to the 
  local Hari > Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I> 
  mentioned it to the center > management and asked them to explain I 
  wasn't> available to drive them that day. > Another friend of 
  mine had the same chore for vidyas> that had come to > Memphis, 
  only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to> go to a titty bar. There 
  are > other great stories out there I'm sure!Tittie bar? Like a 
  bosom bar?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 
> The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along the 
> lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
> Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.
> 
> I also attend weekly yoga classes.
> 
> Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things -- 
> plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
> think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> 
If you are a TM teacher, very likely yes.  On my TTC, we were 
specifically told not to do either (the questioner literally asked 
about  your situation - going to the HK restaurant to eat), because it 
gives people the impression that we are teaching a technique which 
does not satisfy ourselves completely. If you are not a TM Teacher, I 
don't really know what the reply would be. 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread Peter


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The  worst thing I do that can be considered an
> "offense" along the 
> lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to
> my local Hari 
> Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
> 
> I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
> 
> Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both
> those things  -- 
> plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the
> future -- do you  
> think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> 
> 
> 
> Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian
> couple, here to give  
> advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted
> to go. Since they preferred  not 
> to cook where they were staying they asked me to
> take them to the local Hari  
> Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I
> mentioned it to the center  
> management and asked them to explain I wasn't
> available to drive them that day.  
> Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas
> that had come to  
> Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to
> go to a titty bar. There are  
> other great stories out there I'm sure!

Tittie bar? Like a bosom bar?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The  worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along 
the 
> lines  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
> Krishna temple  for the Sunday night feast.
> 
> I also attend weekly yoga  classes.
> 
> Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things  -- 
> plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do 
you  
> think I would be refused a Dome badge?
> 
> 
> 
> Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to 
give  
> advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since 
they preferred  not 
> to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the 
local Hari  
> Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal.



Wonderful!

Thanks for that piece of trivia, MDixon, you made my day!



> I mentioned it to the center  
> management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive 
them that day.  
> Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come 
to  
> Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty 
bar. There are  
> other great stories out there I'm sure!
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/10/06 10:29:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along the lines 
  considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari Krishna temple 
  for the Sunday night feast.I also attend weekly yoga 
  classes.Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things 
  -- plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
  think I would be refused a Dome badge?

Uh oh! Years ago I was asked to drive the Indian couple, here to give 
advanced techniques, around where ever they wanted to go. Since they preferred 
not to cook where they were staying they asked me to take them to the local Hari 
Krishna temple for their Sunday evening meal. I mentioned it to the center 
management and asked them to explain I wasn't available to drive them that day. 
Another friend of mine had the same chore for vidyas that had come to 
Memphis, only difference was , the Vidyas wanted to go to a titty bar. There are 
other great stories out there I'm sure!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jeanne wrote; "The majority of people who got their dome badges were 
> not asked the
> incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have to
> lie face to face to someone,"
> 
> Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by half if
> people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the
> declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below? There are
> probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa who
> have just seen the saints too.
> 
> There certainly are a lot of TM meditators running below the 
> TMorg `religious/spiritual practice/saints' administrative 
> inquisition radar to have registered & gotten in there.
> 
> I have talked around with people these recent days also who were 
> saying they had tried going back to the dome programs these past 
> weeks and were remarking that the feeling of fear w/ people hiding 
> there was so too thick & that they were not going to go there 
> because of that anymore.  The fear and sadness that it is not more 
> open & gone the way it has does color what is left there.  Evidently 
> there is a bad group-effect the TMOrg have created there unwittingly 
> on the subtle.  It is pretty sad for the hope that it could have 
> been.  It has been a large disheartenment and dwindle for a long 
> time and that feeling is deep in the practice of the dome 
> community..  it is a bad perpetuation given the hope that it was 
> once.
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 

My take: if you must lie to accomplish something, it's probably not something 
you should 
be trying to accomplish. Of course, this is "world peace" we're talking about, 
so why are 
people doing things that they need to lie about in order to accomplish this? 
Perhaps world 
peace isn't as important to them as they like to pretend?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: "Dome Rejection" and the #'s

2006-08-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jeanne wrote; "The majority of people who got their dome badges 
were 
> not asked the
> incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have to
> lie face to face to someone,"
> 
> Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by half 
if
> people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the
> declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below? There are
> probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa 
who
> have just seen the saints too.
> 
> There certainly are a lot of TM meditators running below the 
> TMorg `religious/spiritual practice/saints' administrative 
> inquisition radar to have registered & gotten in there.
> 
> I have talked around with people these recent days also who were 
> saying they had tried going back to the dome programs these past 
> weeks and were remarking that the feeling of fear w/ people hiding 
> there was so too thick & that they were not going to go there 
> because of that anymore.  The fear and sadness that it is not more 
> open & gone the way it has does color what is left there.  
Evidently 
> there is a bad group-effect the TMOrg have created there 
unwittingly 
> on the subtle.  It is pretty sad for the hope that it could have 
> been.  It has been a large disheartenment and dwindle for a long 
> time and that feeling is deep in the practice of the dome 
> community..  it is a bad perpetuation given the hope that it was 
> once.
> 
> -Doug in FF




The worst thing I do that can be considered an "offense" along the 
lines considered above is that I occasionally go to my local Hari 
Krishna temple for the Sunday night feast.

I also attend weekly yoga classes.

Now, I wonder: if I was totally honest about both those things -- 
plus, if I refused to stop those activities in the future -- do you 
think I would be refused a Dome badge?








> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > "The majority of people who got their dome badges were not asked 
> the
> > incredibly difficult questions I was asked, so they did not have 
to
> > lie face to face to someone,"
> > 
> > Doug writing: Would the dome attendence numbers collapse, by 
half 
> if 
> > people were also generally required to sign foreswearing the 
> > declarations that they are holding ShivaMa to as below?  There 
are 
> > probably easily 500 or 800 people in the domes just like ShivaMa 
> who 
> > have just seen the saints too.
> > 
> > <
> > "I  SEVERED
> >  any connection I had with any saints and SEVERED the use of any
> >  techniques that they had taught me, and that I would NEVER 
> > establish 
> >  a
> >  connection with them again or practice any other techniques 
other 
> >  than
> >  Maharishi's, EVER AGAIN. And that I had to put all of this in 
> >  writing,
> > > promising that I would do this.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Would probably cut quite a swath in those left in the domes.
> > -Doug in FF
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection"
> > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone 
you 
> > > think
> > > may benefit from it.
> > > All Love,
> > > Shiva Ma
> > > 
> > > My Dome rejection
> > > 
> > > Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
> > > 
> > > Aug 2 (5 days ago)
> > > 
> > > Dear John,
> > > I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted 
> at 
> > the
> > > dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
> one 
> > of
> > > the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE 
> share 
> > > this
> > > letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH"  
> > about
> > > what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
> > written
> > > in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
> > as "TRUTHFUL" 
> > > as
> > > I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that 
> may
> > > benefit EVERYONE!
> > > 
> > > When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more 
time 
> > to 
> > > be
> > > processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
> acceptance,
> > > because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced 
> any
> > > techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a 
GREAT 
> > saint
> > > from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
> > questioning
> > > me "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and 
> that
> > > what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the 
> > question 
> > > to
> > > over 600 people that I initiated,  back in the 
> > seventies: "Everything
> > > we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This 
answer
> > > seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me,  yet I was not
> > > accepted then for the dome.
> > > 
> > > This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister and
> > > brother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I 
> > should
> > > apply now for the