--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
Judy,
You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
never
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Dude, YOU are the person who was making
excuses for the TMO having illegal policies,
not me.
Actually, of course, we don't know that the TMO's
policies are illegal; that's just Barry's
assumption. The three cases
nab wrote:
I simply don't get it; why on earth is anyone taking
what this Turk writes, who is so obviously disturbed,
seriously ?
It's been years since I had a dialog with the Turq. He
has a very prejudice opinion of anyone living in Texas.
So, I've avoided dialoging with him for a long
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nab wrote:
I simply don't get it; why on earth is anyone taking
what this Turk writes, who is so obviously disturbed,
seriously ?
It's been years since I had a dialog with the Turq. He
has a very
It's all about the Purity of the Teaching.
If eclectic behaviour is tolerated, then it could get to the point
where an introductory lecture on TM is coming from somebody who
benefited from a variety of traditions, techniques, tools or
teachers... and The Purity, at that point, could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know of a governor who got banned because he was overheard
talking about Ravi Shankar in the dining hall and a person who
worked in the course office overheard and called him in for the
inquisition. This after
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's all about the Purity of the Teaching.
If eclectic behaviour is tolerated, then it could get to the point
where an introductory lecture on TM is coming from somebody who
benefited from a variety
It's all about the Purity of the Teaching.
Purity of the BRAND. One of Maharishi's greatest skills was his
intuitive understanding of the value of the brand with its
recognizable trademarks. TBs and detractors can both give him his
props here.
Regarding enlightenment, MMY explained that it's
On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:01 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote:
---
MMY knew that people would say,
If mantra mediation is so helpful, then please explain why India had
so much poverty?
The Answer: Yes, India has had mantra mediation for ages. At one
time it was extremely effective. Yet, the
Curtis wrote:
So if Maharishi really did define-down
enlightenment as feeling peaceful and
content inside yourself, I would say,
I wish you had told me that in the first
place before I spent all my time in Europe
and India with my eyes closed instead of
going out to expand my mind by
Is life in Texas that God-awful to cause one to incessantly reveal one's misery
by taunting
in the manner displayed here ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Curtis wrote:
So if Maharishi really did define-down
enlightenment as feeling
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:34 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress
From e-mail inbox:
Is this LB SHRIVER's translation? He
mainstream wrote:
Is life in Texas that God-awful to cause one
to incessantly reveal one's misery by taunting
in the manner displayed here ?
So, exactly, how many years did YOU waste?
Be honest.
Curtis wrote:
So if Maharishi really did define-down
enlightenment as feeling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Maharishi didn't want anyone reading from real
spiritual traditions or seeing real spiritual
teachers because they'd figure out that he was
a bullshit artist from Day One, with no cred-
entials, no knowledge
On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:21 AM, authfriend wrote:
Translation: Barry would like Lawson, Nabby, and
myself to be seen as his image of us, not as who
we really are.
Everyone else seems to get it. There IS no excuse
for limiting a human being's right to explore
spirituality in any form, and for
Sal wrote:
You've finally convinced me...Barry has never
been right, never will be, and can only spout
lies, and not even very good ones at that.
Finally, after four years, you see the light!
Therefore, I hereby decree that Barry Wright
be known from this day on as Barry Wrong.
Or,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Judy,
You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
never will be, and can only spout lies, and not even very
good ones at that.
On the other hand, what Barry seems to be
very good at is playing with his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
and the other person is currently mouthing the
TM Party Line while having been declared persona
non grata from the TM movement himself.
Nabby has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curtis wrote:
So if Maharishi really did define-down
enlightenment as feeling peaceful and
content inside yourself, I would say,
I wish you had told me that in the first
place before I spent all my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is life in Texas that God-awful to cause one to incessantly reveal
one's misery by taunting
in the manner displayed here ?
Good call Main. I'm gunna have to go with a yes on this one based
on the consistency of
, you know.
...but mountain doesn't move!
--- On Wed, 8/6/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 1:02 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
Judy,
You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
never will be, and can only spout lies, and not even very
good ones at that.
This is Judy's way of saying, Ooops. I've just
been suckered into defending illegal behavior
on the part of the TM organization.
As I said before:
On the other hand, what Barry seems to be
very good at is playing with his wind-up
toys. A few generalized comments, and the
toys go crazy and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is Judy's way of saying, Ooops. I've just
been suckered into defending illegal behavior
on the part of the TM organization.
Actually, this is Barry's way of saying, Ooops.
I don't know whether the employees in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote:
I know of a governor who got banned because he was overheard
talking about Ravi Shankar in the dining hall and a person who
worked in the course
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
Judy,
You've finally convinced me...Barry has never been right,
never will be, and can only spout lies, and not even very
good ones at that.
Everyone else seems to get it. There IS no excuse
for limiting a human being's right to explore
spirituality in any form, and for making that
exploration a crime punishable by banishment. In
*every* instance in human history in which it
has appeared it has been a mistake, and an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More mail from the Inbox:
What a stupid trip the leadership here laid on everyone for so
long. I was in the Dome one night for a meeting roughly 10 years
ago. Around that time I had gone in earlier for program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
More mail from the Inbox:
What a stupid trip the leadership here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
But that's a TM teacher instruction, which is a separate issue
from the thing about Sidhas at Fairfield visiting other gurus.
You're being an apologist again, Lawson.
Oh bull.
The point is that this instruction is
inappropriate in ANY context, when said
BY anyone, when said
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Your mileage may vary, and obviously does. I stand
on my original statement: Being able to excuse such
behavior on the part of jealous tyrants indicates
an almost complete lack of character and integrity
in my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
More mail from the Inbox:
What a stupid trip the leadership here
of the movement quite unnecessarily. I heard Hagelin say the
following with my own ears This is something WE (the folks
on the stage) came up with. It did not come from MMY or GD.
But sometimes it *did* come from MMY. *Directly*
from him.
On my TTC we had whole
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
More mail from the Inbox:
What a stupid trip the leadership here laid on everyone for so
long. I was in the Dome one night for a
--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:52 AM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
[EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
of the movement quite unnecessarily. I heard Hagelin
say the following with my own ears This is something
WE (the folks on the stage) came up with. It did not
come from MMY or GD.
But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that's a TM teacher instruction, which is a separate issue
from the thing about Sidhas at Fairfield visiting other gurus.
You're being an apologist again, Lawson.
Oh bull.
The point is that
Judy wrote:
Your projection reminds me of John McCain's calling
Barack Obama racist for mocking McCain's own use
of Obama's picture on a $100 dollar bill.
Er, there's only *one* president on the dollar bill, not
all those presidents and the president on the dollar
bill is not black, so
community just stay away from it. You'd be encouraged by the nature
of the larger meditating community living here.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for
Spiritual Progress
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 8:57 PM
in the meditating
community just stay away from it. You'd be encouraged by the
nature
of the larger meditating community living here.
Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for
Spiritual Progress
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Apologist is used by people like Barry as if it
were a pejorative, but of course it isn't. Barry
himself is an apologist for all kinds of things.
Uncle T's original remark was basically calling me a Nazi, or at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Judy wrote:
Your projection reminds me of John McCain's calling
Barack Obama racist for mocking McCain's own use
of Obama's picture on a $100 dollar bill.
Er, there's only *one* president on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
But that's a TM teacher instruction, which is a separate issue
from the thing about Sidhas at Fairfield visiting other gurus.
Lawson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
Judy wrote:
Your projection reminds me of John McCain's calling
Barack Obama racist for mocking McCain's own use
of Obama's picture
From e-mail inbox:
Is this LB SHRIVER's translation? He said he was going to come out
with something like this
.
JGD,
Guru Dev's Directives,
Guidelines for Spiritual Progress:
From: Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, (The `Guru Dev'
of
the TMorg).
The Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well, in fact just last week a lowly common citizen-sidha old-time
meditator got informed on, called in and the dome badge taken away.
Banned.
Can we have a name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well, in fact just last week a lowly common citizen-sidha old-time
meditator
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well, in fact just last week a lowly common citizen-sidha
old-time meditator got
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear Lawson, you evidently don't live here.
Well,
Judy,
I'm in awe of your capacity to read well.
-Mainstream
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
PROTECTED] wrote:
From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's Guidelines, for Spiritual Progress
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 7:40 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy,
I'm in awe of your capacity to read well.
No, sorry, there's no special capacity involved.
It's a matter of not letting your biases get so in
your way that you see stuff that isn't there or
don't see
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know of a governor who got banned because he was overheard talking
about Ravi Shankar in the dining hall and a person who worked in the
course office overheard and called him in for the inquisition. This
Mail from inbox:
thanks...and we know it's true
Guru Dev's Directives,
Guidelines for Spiritual Progress:
From: Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, (The `Guru Dev'
of
the TMorg).
The Guru Dev Biography page has translations from Guru Dev's QA
sessions:
QA #69:
Guru
More mail from the Inbox:
What a stupid trip the leadership here laid on everyone for so
long. I was in the Dome one night for a meeting roughly 10 years
ago. Around that time I had gone in earlier for program and there was
a very big sign at the entrance saying DON'T GO SEE THIS
about your life
and spiritual need? Absolutely fucking nothing! Why would anyone listen to
them. Time to kill one's sheep nature, a nasty trait indeed.
--- On Mon, 8/4/08, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Guru Dev's Directives,
Guidelines for Spiritual Progress:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guru Dev's Directives,
Guidelines for Spiritual Progress:
From: Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, (The `Guru Dev'
of
the TMorg).
The Guru Dev Biography page has translations from Guru Dev's QA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Guru Dev's Directives,
Guidelines for Spiritual Progress:
From: Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, (The `Guru Dev'
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am not privy to how much Paul made on the biography of Maharishi
that he wrote but I suspect, like most writers, it was probably a
labor of love and, in the end, worked out to be the equivalent of
less than
Nabby, okay, so you got the Ad hominid attack launched. So, what you
think about the ideas of what he translated?
Any merit to what Guru Dev might be saying in the translation?
I spose next the actual translation should be open for attack now
that the Ad hminid has been put on the table.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nabby, okay, so you got the Ad hominid attack launched. So, what you
think about the ideas of what he translated?
These ideas originated not from Guru Dev but from P.Mason.
Mason next project will be to
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