Well, that's got to be a classic statement. I don't
much about it, but I'm sure about that guy.
Watch the movie The Assassination of Jesse James.
It's about how a criminal (Jesse) can come to see the
light or become enlightened and yet continue to be in
the relative what he has always been.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC,
but this guy sure ain't in it.
God, Judy, another fine statement. If you keep it up,
I'll have to worship your ass before long.
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
Mailander
mailander111@
Angela Mailander wrote:
God, Judy, another fine statement. If you
keep it up, I'll have to worship your ass
before long.
It always seems to come back to sex with
you guys. Why is that?
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not
exactly the
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW: A person who preys sexually on post-pubertal
children is technically not a pedophile.
Pedophiles--those who prey on prepubertal children--
have a severe sexual disorder and are (as far as we
know) incurable. Therapy can help them resist their
Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It always seems to come back to sex with
you guys. Why is that?
We like to talk about sex Richard. You seem to get snagged on it. Why
is that?
Duveyoung wrote:
I try to track what he's doing -- now and then
-- so that I can at least be sure he's not
offering courses -- especially in Fairfield.
If I find out he's doing anything in public
and it's, say, within a thousand miles, I'm
going to drive there and confront him in the
It always seems to come back to sex with
you guys. Why is that?
We like to talk about sex Richard.
I don't recall you talking about your private
sex life. Did I miss something? What's up with
that?
You seem to get snagged on it.
Maybe so, but I draw the line at worshipping
Judy's
Uh Richard. Edg never claimed to have first hand knowledge of this
person's exploits. He relayed infomation from someone he considered
a reliable source. His account was then later substantiated by
someone with first hand knowledge. People have various reason for
not reporting crimes or
On May 17, 2008, at 9:32 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Thank you for making this distinction. Yes, after puberty, I guess it
is a matter of consent, at least according to the law. There are
strong sentiments that argue that sex between adults and minors should
not be forbidden-at least
Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think in Andy's case someone mentioned 10. Either way,
the whole secrecy aspect makes it pretty revolting, to say the least.
Of course. But it is nice to get the terms straight.
Sal wrote:
I think in Andy's case someone mentioned
10. Either way, the whole secrecy aspect
makes it pretty revolting, to say the least.
So, why did you keep it a big secret, Sal?
lurk wrote:
He relayed infomation from someone he considered
a reliable source. His account was then later
substantiated by someone with first hand knowledge.
People have various reason for not reporting crimes
or indiscretions.
It's against the law to not report a crime. It's also
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So it always does seem to come down to how you operate or express
whatever your knowingness is in the world. In my own head I keep
coming back to New.Morning's definition of any enlightenment worth
having is one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Andy was
talking about
This was posted anonymously to FFL by someone claiming to be the
mother of a boy who had just such an encounter:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/9592
One
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sandiego108 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
wrote:
Andy was
talking about
This was posted anonymously to FFL by someone claiming to be
the
mother of a boy who had just such an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God, Judy, another fine statement. If you keep it up,
I'll have to worship your ass before long.
Thanks, Angela.
I should add that while it's sexually normal for an
adult to be attracted to adolescent children,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On May 17, 2008, at 9:32 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
Thank you for making this distinction. Yes, after puberty,
I guess it is a matter of consent, at least according to
the law. There are strong sentiments
lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
How? What?, Where? Does this happen? And you're saying Andy was
not totally enlightened? He got away with pedopoilia right under your
nose. Must be a pretty good diversion to keep everyone's attention
away from his molesting children. He robbed the bank when the
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:35 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How do we eva te subjective experiences?
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When I found all this out, I had moved
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy's method is to grant free admission to various kids if one of
their parents sign up for a day long Self Inquiry course. At the
sessions I attended, there were always about ten boys between, say 10
and 16 years old.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Andy's method is to grant free admission to various kids if one
of
their parents sign up for a day long Self Inquiry course. At the
sessions I
Edg, really, thanks a million for sharing this. It is really
fascinating to see a pro at work like this. How audacious, and
absolutely committed he must have been to this agenda. It almost
sounds like he had really bought into the idea that he was doing
good somehow.
I knew Andy from my
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
--- sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung
no_reply@ wrote:
Andy's method is to grant free admission to
various kids if one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC,
but this guy sure ain't in it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I found all this out, I had moved from Fairfield and Andy had
stopped his courses. If anyone knows that he's pulling the same shit,
tell me.
Edg
How long did you live in Fairfield Edg?
sandiego108 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why can't a pedophile be in UC?
I don't know about a pedophile, I'm not exactly the expert on UC,
but this guy sure ain't in it.
Unless enlightenment turns you into a sexual
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few times and
carefully said we might chalk that up to 'beautiful
unstressing...'
On May 15, 2008, at 8:26 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few times and
carefully said we might
Great topic Curtis. I fully agree with you that these sorts of
experience can be very compelling. Off the top of my head here are
some orthogonal 'scales' on which the evaluation of a subjective
experience might be situated:
1. Realness (vague-real): How real does the experience seem? Is Guru
Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Subject experiences can only be validated by
epistemology - the valid means of knowledge.
The valid means of knowledge are:
Inference
Sense perception
Verbal testimony
According to René Descartes, the
Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Vaj wrote:
It is something you should be instructed in by
an expert in your tradition.
That's knowledge by verbal testimony. But that is
not a very good source of valid knowledge. Your
friend or
Curtis,
The movement leaders encouraged us to go with subjective speculations
quite a bit, but not nearly so much as Maharishi himself was allowed
to do. Maharishi was THE major violator of the standard TM advice
that we not give much importance to experiences during meditation
since just about
On May 15, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Vaj wrote:
It is something you should be instructed in by
an expert in your tradition.
That's knowledge by verbal testimony.
gracious snip
Not
On May 15, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
If I'm ever unlucky enough to meet one of the Rajas, the above is the
first thing I'll bring to his attention.
And not in a civil fashion.
Make sure you take a video camera for gawds sake! YouTube is waiting.
Duveyoung wrote:
[snip]
And for all the destruction of lives that
Andy then caused by leveraging his position
into a constant stream of boys into his bed,
I hold Maharishi responsible -- not quite
as responsible as the parents that allowed
Andy to maraud and rape, but quite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few
Comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And for all the destruction of lives that Andy then caused by
leveraging his position into a constant stream of boys into his bed, I
hold Maharishi responsible -- not quite as responsible as the parents
that allowed
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