--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:
MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF NATURE IS
ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
But to explain consciousness, as well as biological complexity, as a
consequence of the natural
Good example of what is known as intellectual
masturbation or pseudo intellectualism. :-D
It's not even *Robin's* masturbation. He needs
other people's ideas even to do that. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 10/25/2012 04:30 PM, Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Good example of what is known as intellectual masturbation or
pseudo intellectualism. :-D
It's not even *Robin's* masturbation. He needs
other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
I must say the idea that conscious phenomena are physically
unexplainable is jumping the gun a bit, hope the whole thing
doesn't rest on that as
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
I must say the idea that conscious phenomena are physically
unexplainable is jumping the gun a bit, hope the whole thing
doesn't rest on that as consciousness research is only
in it's infancy and while there are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
I must say the idea that conscious phenomena are physically
unexplainable is jumping the gun a bit, hope the whole thing
doesn't rest on that
--- Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:
MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF NATURE IS
ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
Modern evolutionary theory offers a general picture of how the existence and
development of life could be just another
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 10/25/2012 04:30 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote:
MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF NATURE IS
ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
But to explain consciousness, as well as biological
snip
In the above Person Of Interest scenario, would X
be God? It's an outside agency acting upon the world.
It has the ability to direct the team to an event before
it happens and keep it from happening. That sounds
pretty omniscient and omnipotent to me. :-)
snip
[Xeno wrote:]
Congratulations and jubilations!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
snip
P.S. You can call me 'g' from now on, since I'm now
a great grandfather. LoL!!!
P.S. You can call me 'g' from now on, since I'm
now a great grandfather. LoL!!!
hermandan:
Congratulations and jubilations!
Thanks, but it's kinda weird, raising two great-grand
children. - LoL!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
wrote:
MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF NATURE
IS ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
As a result of Robin's current fascination with Thomas Nagel ('Jason
does not have a proper or objective
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
wrote:
MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF
NATURE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
As a result of Robin's current fascination with Thomas Nagel ('Jason
does not have a proper or objective
Thanks Xeno. Good chart! (It didn't come out in the web client
at first, but now I have it).
I think I find myself without a paddle somewhere due South
of Nagel. I need a tow to a saner position. SOS.
(Some hope! At least half of the folks on the list aren't
likely to bother, as apparently I
is to recognize one's
subjectivity.
Share
From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Idea Since Darwin
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely deterministic and it's not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCxTahB409s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Robin, I just threw that review up there, and here you are with an essay. The
only thing I have read of Nagel's was that essay What is it Like to be a
Bat?,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely deterministic
We ourselves are large-scale, complex substances of something both objectively
physical from outside and subjectively mental from inside.
Dear Thomas Nagel,
You must be aware that you have written the most important book of philosophy
of the 21st century. And the measure of the significance of
--- Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:
We ourselves are large-scale, complex substances of something both
objectively physical from outside and subjectively mental from inside.
Dear Thomas Nagel,
You must be aware that you have written the most important book of philosophy
of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely deterministic and
So, it's all about bacteria LOL
From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Idea Since Darwin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Apologies for thinking of you as a lamb. My big mistake.
From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Idea Since Darwin
--- Jason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise
Unintentionally hilarious post of the month:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
snip
Nagel misunderstood evolution and got it completely wrong.
There is a certain set of laws in nature and that gives
nature a certain intangible intelligence however impersonal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
In the above Person Of Interest scenario, would X
be God? It's an outside agency acting upon the world.
It has the ability to direct the team to an event before
it happens and keep it from happening. That sounds
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Most Dangerous Idea Since Darwin
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--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
In the above Person Of Interest scenario, would X
be God? It's an outside agency acting upon the world.
It has the ability to direct the team to an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@...
wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
wrote:snipIn the above Person Of Interest scenario, would
X be God? It's an outside agency acting upon the world. It
has the ability to direct the
By A.C. Lee
The distinguished philosopher Thomas Nagel has spent much of his career
defending an antireductionist view of mind. His new book, Mind and Cosmos,
extends this skepticism to much of contemporary scientific inquiry, including
evolutionary biology, and calls for a new scientific
FWIW, Nagel is the chap who wrote that famous essay,
What Is It Like to Be a Bat? back in 1974:
http://organizations.utep.edu/Portals/1475/nagel_bat.pdf
Robin, when you mentioned this book recently to Curtis,
you noted that Nagel was an avowed atheist. People who
find his rejection of
Dear Xeno,
You are a sweet guy--but you should, as I have done, read the whole book
yourself. The reviews cited here I have read--even before I got the book from
Amazon. I can assure you that when I compare the content of the book to the
reviews, the book tacitly explains the necessary
Robin, I just threw that review up there, and here you are with an essay. The
only thing I have read of Nagel's was that essay What is it Like to be a
Bat?, and that was some 5 or 6 years ago. Philosophers disagree, so whenever
they write something, especially a major work, you can be sure
Xeno, a lot of Religionists and Spiritualists have
misconceptions about Darwin.
If you study evolution carefully, you will realise there is
a perfect balance between determinism and randomness. It's
not entirely deterministic and it's not entirely random
either.
There is a certain broad
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