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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where is it going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet those non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time the cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all. The money is coming in $1 million increments from rich sidhas. From what I can tell the tmo is selling more real estate than buying in the US at least - it's selling all the old hotels it bought in the early 90s, it sold Avon Park (for about $14 million I think), it's sold some of its texas land. Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. England may have officially been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their offshore banking havens. The mov't also makes money off of its various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving MUM a million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations. You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the tmo leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's been transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. England may have officially been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their offshore banking havens. The mov't also makes money off of its various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving MUM a million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations. You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the tmo leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's been transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where is it going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet those non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time the cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all. The money is coming in $1 million increments from rich sidhas. From what I can tell the tmo is selling more real estate than buying in the US at least - it's selling all the old hotels it bought in the early 90s, it sold Avon Park (for about $14 million I think), it's sold some of its texas land. Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. England may have officially been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their offshore banking havens. The mov't also makes money off of its various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving MUM a million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations. You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the tmo leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's been transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. Six new rajas are being crowned today - names below. Ceremony is being broadcast now at maharishi channel #3 at mou.org I'm told that you no longer need to attend a course to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. 1. The crowning of Raja Steven Rubin, the Raja of China for the Global Country of World Peace; 2. The crowning of Raja Emanuel Schiffgens, the Raja of Germany for the Global Country of World Peace; 3. The crowning of Raja Bruce Plaut, the Raja of North West Vedic America; 4. The crowning of Raja Rafael David, Purusha Raja with universal domain; 5. The crowning of Raja Richard Ross, Purusha*** Raja with universal domain. 6. Also present is Raja John Fagan, with special responsibility for food purity and for the nourishment of invincibility for the whole world.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where is it going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet those non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time the cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all. And does it make the TMO the richest NRM.
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I love it that the raja of China is not Chinese. dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. Six new rajas are being crowned today - names below. Ceremony is being broadcast now at maharishi channel #3 at mou.org I'm told that you no longer need to attend a course to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. 1. The crowning of Raja Steven Rubin, the Raja of China for the Global Country of World Peace; 2. The crowning of Raja Emanuel Schiffgens, the Raja of Germany for the Global Country of World Peace; 3. The crowning of Raja Bruce Plaut, the Raja of North West Vedic America; 4. The crowning of Raja Rafael David, Purusha Raja with universal domain; 5. The crowning of Raja Richard Ross, Purusha*** Raja with universal domain. 6. Also present is Raja John Fagan, with special responsibility for food purity and for the nourishment of invincibility for the whole world. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where is it going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet those non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time the cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all. The money is coming in $1 million increments from rich sidhas. From what I can tell the tmo is selling more real estate than buying in the US at least - it's selling all the old hotels it bought in the early 90s, it sold Avon Park (for about $14 million I think), it's sold some of its texas land. Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. England may have officially been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their offshore banking havens. The mov't also makes money off of its various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving MUM a million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations. You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the tmo leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's been transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. It's unbelievable, where is all this money coming from and where is it going? I know the TMO has bought lots of land recently and I bet those non-SV mansions cost a few quid, but that was from the last time the cap went round for the save the world with pundits. It's really serious cash now, what are they going to do with it all. The money is coming in $1 million increments from rich sidhas. From what I can tell the tmo is selling more real estate than buying in the US at least - it's selling all the old hotels it bought in the early 90s, it sold Avon Park (for about $14 million I think), it's sold some of its texas land. Almost all of the US money that's coming in is transferred out of the country to offshore accounts in the channel or jersey islands (near England), and from there into the secret untraceable world of offshore accounts. England may have officially been a demon country for MMY these past years, but he favors their offshore banking havens. The mov't also makes money off of its various businesses, primarily SV buildings, and Settle is giving MUM a million a month, but I think most of that gets spent on operations. You'll wait a long time before anyone is allowed to ask any of the tmo leaders in public what's being done with the $155 million that's been transferred to offshore banking accounts over the past 5 yrs. I assume about half goes to that bizarre spiritual mafia organization known as the Indian TMO and about half gets into individual offshore accounts of TMO leaders. Fascinating stuff, but can I ask how you know this, do you have friends on the inside?
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I love it that the raja of China is not Chinese. Imagine this: Raja Steven Rubin actually goes to China (long shot I know but stay with me). He gets a meeting with some Chinese officials who think he represents the Burger King franchise and might have a stack of greenbacks to grease the wheels. At the banquet Raja Steve refuses all the meat dishes carefully given to him first, insinuating that his hosts are too poor for him to eat their meat and eats the rice with a few vegetables, which he spits out because of the garlic and MSG,. After some awkwardness his hosts shout Ganbei while offering him a drink. After much translations his hosts understand that this big nose ghost will not drink with them both giving offense and proving that he has something to hide that would be revealed if he drank. They hastily end the banquet. The next day after translating his movement literature they assume he represents a branch of Fallon Gong and he is never heard from again. The movement publishes a gold leaf book about how successful the trip was and that high level contacts were made, very positive things happened, and soon everyone in China will be meditating. A new Raja is appointed for China and his role is to cut the China invincibility cake at all movement functions. Far fetched? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it that the raja of China is not Chinese. dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh,A million here, a million there; pretty soon we're talking real money. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote:to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. Six new rajas are being crowned today - names below. Ceremony is being broadcast now at maharishi channel #3 at mou.org I'm told that you no longer need to attend a course to become a raja - just wire in the million dollars. I'm amazed at how many people have given a million so far - it's well over 120 by my count. 1. The crowning of Raja Steven Rubin, the Raja of China for the Global Country of World Peace; 2. The crowning of Raja Emanuel Schiffgens, the Raja of Germany for the Global Country of World Peace; 3. The crowning of Raja Bruce Plaut, the Raja of North West Vedic America; 4. The crowning of Raja Rafael David, Purusha Raja with universal domain; 5. The crowning of Raja Richard Ross, Purusha*** Raja with universal domain. 6. Also present is Raja John Fagan, with special responsibility for food purity and for the nourishment of invincibility for the whole world. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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TurquoiseB wrote: As it turns out, I can in fact shed some light on this story, because in a previous incarnation I was there as one of Buddha's disciples during this very incident. The woman -- who was a major babe, BTW, with just enormous...uh...intellects -- was a little distraught over being dissed by the Budh-man, so I offered to take her out for a drink or two. Put down the bottle, Barry, turn around, and walk out of the bar. Go home to your shack and sober up. Then, enroll in AA to get some professional help. Of course I ran my older guy with a little wisdom to work with predator number on her and within a few days she was shacked up in my cave with me, catering to my every whim -- most of them *far* more deviant than any that Edg has thought up. Within a few months she was lookin' far less beautiful and more than a little used, so I kicked her out of the cave and found myself an even younger babe. The woman, however, now far less beautiful, got noticed by Buddha, who now found her acceptable as a disciple, and in short order she realized her full enlightenment and became a noted siddha master. Once she'd mastered the siddhi of being able to light fires with her mind, she came back to my cave and burned me and the younger babe I'd dumped her for alive. I still remember her evil (but enlightened) cackle. In my next life I was reborn as a luscious young babe myself, being hit on by all the predators in town, until Edg (in one of his own previous incarnations) rode by on a white horse and saved me. He took me back to his castle and put me up on a pedestal and treated me great, and in time I, too realized my own enlightenment and my own abilities as a latent siddha master. And, having learned from my previous karma with Buddha's woman disciple, I did *not* use the light-my-fire siddhi to repay his white-knight-like generosity. I turned him into a toad instead, and wound up marrying a raja, whom I later took to the cleaners in a Vedic divorce court. Thus unfold the mysteries of karma...
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TurquoiseB wrote: On another forum, there is a thread about some former students of Rama (Frederick Lenz) wishing that someone had done the definitive biography of him. When are you going to get off your high-horse and take on the responsibility of being the successor to Rama? You let all those poor hapless students of his go over to that other Saint, the Adi Da. Thanks a lot, Pal! Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: willytex Date: Fri, Aug 8 2003 2:21 pm Subject: Fwap! http://tinyurl.com/2vsxaz That's how the dude approached things in real life, too. Perhaps the best things ever written about the guy are *compilations* -- mulitple stories about what it was like to hang with him Yet, not once did you ever get to hang with Fred. From what I've read, you never once was in his living room at Stony Brook, and you never even got to ride in his Mercedes - not even once. Congratulations - you must have spent upwards of $200,000 on Rama Seminars! Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental alt.buddha.short.fat.guy From: willytex Date: Mon, Sep 8 2003 9:29 pm Subject: Your Basic Fwap! http://tinyurl.com/2oj6lh
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TurquoiseB wrote: I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. You get what you pay for: $1.00 for answers. $5.00 for correct answers. Dumb looks are still free.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (Even though the root-cause of all addiction -- my identification with a small I -- was here exposed to the great destruction, all my petty character-qualities, habits, flaws, addictions, etc. have pretty much limped along automatically on their own almost as they did before, winding down gradually only as they come to my attention to be separated, attended to, and integrated-dissolved specifically. However, that process is at least actually perceivable and feasible now, where it was inconceivable and unfeasible before.) So, it's kind of a joke in a way -- now *all* experience is, and all states of consciousness are (and always have been) evanescent mood-making -- but not as a *denial* of what is, as I used to define mood-making, but as an *expression* of what is: a bhava, an extremely simple and extemely ordinarily subtle mood of Us which is then expressed as experience. This can be ecstatic and/or horrific, of course, mundane and/or celestial -- the content or labelling doesn't really matter much at all, except inso far as we gain wisdom insight as we arrange and string the glass beads, or at least perceive a pretty pattern in the beads, if we so wish. The more I relax and allow it all to BE, the more lovely and integrated a face it all reflects back. But basically, my life is almost describable as it has always been: still quite mundane, punctuated by moments of epiphany. The only difference is, it is now always basically all the same; it's all always, all-ways only Us. There's a basic contentment in that that I somehow overlooked when still trying to BE someone or something and NOT everything else ... a hopeless task! Sorry this is so darned long; I don't appear to have the time to make it shorter :-) Hi Rory-- enjoying your posts very much-- Ever since I read it for the first time several years ago, I have been attempting the grand unification of, on the one hand, your statement that the universe is contained within us, with on the other hand, our common sensory experience that we are seperate beings. Quite an excellent assignment to myself! Lots of fun and discovery! I enjoy and accept the fact that the universe is wholly contained within me, in part because it is the ultimate statement and recognition of individual responsibility and integrity. It renders both victimhood and judgment untenable. However, my senses don't agree, and live, hopelessly lost, in love and/or interest with a universe crammed full of separate objects. I am curious, given your consistent written expression of all the universe being within you, whether or not that translates for you somehow into how you actually perceive the world through your senses? I have the experience as do we all when my heart is full, of the unity of love superceding my sensory input of separate objects, but I am curious, absent that, whether there is any unification purely through the senses that you commonly and consistently experience?
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I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. nab wrote: As opposed to 100% rubbish from Barry, all of the time :-) Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.religion.gnostic From: willytex Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:01:00 Subject: So, you read over 200 books? http://tinyurl.com/2yzhul Uncle Tantra wrote The Cathars weren't Gnostics. Pansy said the [Gnostic] Emperor was wearing new clothing. Willytex said that the Emperor was not wearing any new clothes. Willytex pointed out that the Indo-Aryans brought dualistic philosophy to Iran in the form of the Avesta, and to India in the form of the Veda. Thus Willytex inferred that the Indo-Iranians were a great influence on the Gnostics, who adopted, among other things, the dualistic doctrine of Persian Zoroaster and ergo, the Indian Sankhya. Uncle Tantra said that Willytex was a loon who only wanted to promote TM. Judy pointed out that Uncle Tantra was a liar. But, Kater said the Cathars were Gnostics. Uncle says they were not Gnostics, but Dualists. Willytex said the Gnostics were influenced by the Persians and the Indians who composed the first dualist philosophy in the Vedas and the Avesta. Uncle said he read over 200 books on the Cathars, but not a single book on the Gnostics has he read. Kater apparently, hasn't read one book on the Indians. Willytex has read many books on the Gnostics, the Persians and the Indians. The Emperor [Gnostics] were most certainly NOT wearing any new clothing. From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Emperor's New Clothes Newsgroups: alt.religion.gnostic Date: 2003-10-16 06:48:09 PST Message 27 in thread
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rory-- enjoying your posts very much-- Ever since I read it for the first time several years ago, I have been attempting the grand unification of, on the one hand, your statement that the universe is contained within us, with on the other hand, our common sensory experience that we are seperate beings. Quite an excellent assignment to myself! Lots of fun and discovery! I enjoy and accept the fact that the universe is wholly contained within me, in part because it is the ultimate statement and recognition of individual responsibility and integrity. It renders both victimhood and judgment untenable. However, my senses don't agree, and live, hopelessly lost, in love and/or interest with a universe crammed full of separate objects. I am curious, given your consistent written expression of all the universe being within you, whether or not that translates for you somehow into how you actually perceive the world through your senses? I have the experience as do we all when my heart is full, of the unity of love superceding my sensory input of separate objects, but I am curious, absent that, whether there is any unification purely through the senses that you commonly and consistently experience? There's a fun question, Jim. Damned if I know. *lol* I want to say Yes and No (big surprise, there, huh!). Let's see... What do I know... First off, I don't experience the senses in exactly the same way as I (sort of) remember I did before death. In the most intimate sense they don't run me; I run them (on cruise control), or better yet we dance together; so whatever is actually perceived is immaterial, is just Us: Unity or separation, they're both absolutely OK; it's just the particle/field, or creator/creature dance. But even as I write this, I am in error, because there never is an actual commitment to separation or unity as there always had apparently been prior. It's all just a matter of degree now, a kind of rheostat of intensity, not an on-off switch; there is no on or off. That is, on the one hand, the movie runs on as always, but it's just a frickin' movie! I mean, I can get thoroughly engrossed in it, identify wholeheartedly with the actor(s), and/or I can appreciate and participate in the musical score, the staging and blocking and chemistry and timing of the actors, the scintillating or dumb dialogue, the various tragicomic plot devices, the director's empathy, the producers' influence, the special interests placing their products, the camera-shots and editing, and so on. But it's always a movie that we're all playing with(in). The seamlessness or unity runs deeper than the senses, or the moods, or any of that. If I can put my attention there as a desideratum (star-point-desire), yeah, there's either unity or something that probably needs my attention to be dissolved into unity. If I don't put my attention there (and I usually don't), then who knows, and who cares? Who can say? I think it may be important now that a number of us (within the movie) wake up at least enough to give ourselves permission to feel and know our star-body, to the multiplicity of worlds within us, to realize that our consciousness determines our ability to meet and interact tangibly with our space-cousins and time-cousins, because it looks as if the time has finally come (within the movie) for Earth to come out of quarantine and join her intergalactic family. This should be a lot of fun, and I mean a LOT of fun :-) *L*L*L*
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice. Thank you for the direct comeback. Rare to get a concrete reply from Rory, D'OH, I mean YOU. Rory, I find your posts remarkable, and entertaining. I mean you make pretty much everyone else here seem firmly grounded. (Nabby excluded) I do wonder how YOU operate in the real world, when your day to day experience seems so celestial. Personally, I sense much authenticity. snip R: I wanted to come back to this for a moment, Steve -- how could we sense much authenticity if we didn't in some manner already know the truth? IMO you sense much authenticity because you know me; you remember where I'm coming from and you and I resonate; in a sense you're aware of a place where there is only one of Us :-) S: Your descriptions just seem so far a field from my daily life, that I wonder if they are more poetry, than actual experience. R: It's only a movie...it's only a movie... :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Hi Rory-- enjoying your posts very much-- Ever since I read it for the first time several years ago, I have been attempting the grand unification of, on the one hand, your statement that the universe is contained within us, with on the other hand, our common sensory experience that we are seperate beings. Quite an excellent assignment to myself! Lots of fun and discovery! I enjoy and accept the fact that the universe is wholly contained within me, in part because it is the ultimate statement and recognition of individual responsibility and integrity. It renders both victimhood and judgment untenable. However, my senses don't agree, and live, hopelessly lost, in love and/or interest with a universe crammed full of separate objects. I am curious, given your consistent written expression of all the universe being within you, whether or not that translates for you somehow into how you actually perceive the world through your senses? I have the experience as do we all when my heart is full, of the unity of love superceding my sensory input of separate objects, but I am curious, absent that, whether there is any unification purely through the senses that you commonly and consistently experience? There's a fun question, Jim. Damned if I know. *lol* I want to say Yes and No (big surprise, there, huh!). Let's see... What do I know... First off, I don't experience the senses in exactly the same way as I (sort of) remember I did before death. In the most intimate sense they don't run me; I run them (on cruise control), or better yet we dance together; so whatever is actually perceived is immaterial, is just Us: Unity or separation, they're both absolutely OK; The intergalactic part sounds very interesting, particularly if there are gross manifestations of it. I think it may freak people out though, which could be a good thing if done gently... My question was specifically regarding the senses, vs. our accomodation of them, and by not taking exception to that part of my question, you have answered it, which oddly enough is the answer I was hoping to hear. I have had some slight residual confusion left over from the days (daze?) of separation, where the only way I could conceive of Unity at that time, was that something would tangibly happen to my senses, much in the way that it does with perceiving the finest relative, within the state of God Realization (, BIG word...lol), and for example, everything would have around it the same sort of aura, or somesuch. When you were talking about your interaction with extraterrestrial beings in an earlier post, I remembered that question, and since you experience subtle sight to a slightly more refined degree than I do, I had the opportunity to ask you my question. Anyway, I always enjoy interacting with those who have woken up or whatever we want to call it, or not, comparing notes and stuff. It is sometimes easier to get questions answered this way, and I sure appreciate having access to those like you with simple, clear perception. Sounds like you are having a great time in Fairfield!
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Blake said, I see through my senses, not with them. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Hi Rory-- enjoying your posts very much-- Ever since I read it for the first time several years ago, I have been attempting the grand unification of, on the one hand, your statement that the universe is contained within us, with on the other hand, our common sensory experience that we are seperate beings. Quite an excellent assignment to myself! Lots of fun and discovery! I enjoy and accept the fact that the universe is wholly contained within me, in part because it is the ultimate statement and recognition of individual responsibility and integrity. It renders both victimhood and judgment untenable. However, my senses don't agree, and live, hopelessly lost, in love and/or interest with a universe crammed full of separate objects. I am curious, given your consistent written expression of all the universe being within you, whether or not that translates for you somehow into how you actually perceive the world through your senses? I have the experience as do we all when my heart is full, of the unity of love superceding my sensory input of separate objects, but I am curious, absent that, whether there is any unification purely through the senses that you commonly and consistently experience? There's a fun question, Jim. Damned if I know. *lol* I want to say Yes and No (big surprise, there, huh!). Let's see... What do I know... First off, I don't experience the senses in exactly the same way as I (sort of) remember I did before death. In the most intimate sense they don't run me; I run them (on cruise control), or better yet we dance together; so whatever is actually perceived is immaterial, is just Us: Unity or separation, they're both absolutely OK; The intergalactic part sounds very interesting, particularly if there are gross manifestations of it. I think it may freak people out though, which could be a good thing if done gently... My question was specifically regarding the senses, vs. our accomodation of them, and by not taking exception to that part of my question, you have answered it, which oddly enough is the answer I was hoping to hear. I have had some slight residual confusion left over from the days (daze?) of separation, where the only way I could conceive of Unity at that time, was that something would tangibly happen to my senses, much in the way that it does with perceiving the finest relative, within the state of God Realization (, BIG word...lol), and for example, everything would have around it the same sort of aura, or somesuch. When you were talking about your interaction with extraterrestrial beings in an earlier post, I remembered that question, and since you experience subtle sight to a slightly more refined degree than I do, I had the opportunity to ask you my question. Anyway, I always enjoy interacting with those who have woken up or whatever we want to call it, or not, comparing notes and stuff. It is sometimes easier to get questions answered this way, and I sure appreciate having access to those like you with simple, clear perception. Sounds like you are having a great time in Fairfield! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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lurk: Personally, I sense much authenticity. Rory: I wanted to come back to this for a moment, Steve -- how could we sense much authenticity if we didn't in some manner already know the truth? IMO you sense much authenticity because you know me; you remember where I'm coming from and you and I resonate; in a sense you're aware of a place where there is only one of Us :-) Lurk: Yea, life is pretty exciting although I may have more shades of grey. Sounds like you have more of the living technicolor :)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The intergalactic part sounds very interesting, particularly if there are gross manifestations of it. I think it may freak people out though, which could be a good thing if done gently... R: Yes, and Steven Greer's story (which sounds like a good one) is there are also pysch-ops involving faked ET's to *create* terror, support yet more industrial-militarization and loss of liberties, etc. Could well be. That's why (like Steven) I'd like to emphasize the consciousness-attunement part of Contact. Harder to get fooled or misled in any meaningful way when we are primarily perceiving from the heart rather than merely through the senses. J: My question was specifically regarding the senses, vs. our accomodation of them, and by not taking exception to that part of my question, you have answered it, which oddly enough is the answer I was hoping to hear. I have had some slight residual confusion left over from the days (daze?) of separation, where the only way I could conceive of Unity at that time, was that something would tangibly happen to my senses, much in the way that it does with perceiving the finest relative, within the state of God Realization (, BIG word...lol), and for example, everything would have around it the same sort of aura, or somesuch. R: Yes, I find that that may be the case, particularly if we are doing concentrated Raam-raj particle (desideratum) work -- if we are giving the particles Love, Beauty, etc., then when we collapse into the particulate perception it can be *overwhelmingly* Love, Beauty, etc., through the senses. But that seems to be the theme for me these days -- learning to take more responsibility for the subtle, ordinary thoughts that *create* the experiences that just happened to us when we were locked in particle-I mode (i.e., before dying). We apparently tend to repeat an experience only until we get it, though, and after that there's really no need; we've distilled the wisdom we were trying to show ourselves. J: When you were talking about your interaction with extraterrestrial beings in an earlier post, I remembered that question, and since you experience subtle sight to a slightly more refined degree than I do, I had the opportunity to ask you my question. Anyway, I always enjoy interacting with those who have woken up or whatever we want to call it, or not, comparing notes and stuff. It is sometimes easier to get questions answered this way, and I sure appreciate having access to those like you with simple, clear perception. Sounds like you are having a great time in Fairfield! R: If pressed, I could probably tell myself a pretty honest story to that effect, yes :-) (Thanks for posting your music, that was impressive!) *L*L*L*
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Do you think Bevan would have eaten up all the Pies she licked.?? ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:45:38 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I don't know how many people are aware of it, but she was quite the figure skater as well. Her parents had obviously paid for lessons because she could do the whole gamut of stuff, such as twirling, jumping, etc. ... all that stuff you see in Ice Capades. On one of the rare occasions in which the MIU pond froze over and it was safe to walk on it, I saw her doing her routines on it. Sat transfixed for about 1/2 an hour. But I must, at the risk of being a party pooper, share one negative story about her which did indeed make me think that she took advantage of her small size. Once when I was in that place in the Student Union that sold sandwiches and cakes (kinda a restaurant), she was in there. They had cakes and slices of cakes and pies displayed for sale, and they were situated on the lowest shelf. Well, sweet and innocent Peggy came by and took her index finger and proceeded to run her finger across the top of each and every cake and pie, lick her finger, and then repeated it. She rendered virtually every single cake and pie unsellable in about 60 seconds of irresponsible childish gluttony. She then proceeded to leave the restaurant completely nonchalantly. Of course, it would have been too politically incorrect to chastise the poor midget, so no one said boo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I suppose that's why you use that line, It's something I did in my previous birth, babe now take off your clothes. Didn't Buddha say that we all knew each other in some previous incarnation or other.? By the way there is no divorce in Hindu religion. There is also no divorce in Christianity. The only religion that recognises divorce is Islam. Also Islam permits ' Temprorary marraiges'. A decent name for prostitution. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:20:08 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today As it turns out, I can in fact shed some light on this story, because in a previous incarnation I was there as one of Buddha's disciples during this very incident. The woman -- who was a major babe, BTW, with just enormous...uh. ..intellects -- was a little distraught over being dissed by the Budh-man, so I offered to take her out for a drink or two. Of course I ran my older guy with a little wisdom to work with predator number on her and within a few days she was shacked up in my cave with me, catering to my every whim -- most of them *far* more deviant than any that Edg has thought up. Within a few months she was lookin' far less beautiful and more than a little used, so I kicked her out of the cave and found myself an even younger babe. The woman, however, now far less beautiful, got noticed by Buddha, who now found her acceptable as a disciple, and in short order she realized her full enlightenment and became a noted siddha master. Once she'd mastered the siddhi of being able to light fires with her mind, she came back to my cave and burned me and the younger babe I'd dumped her for alive. I still remember her evil (but enlightened) cackle. In my next life I was reborn as a luscious young babe myself, being hit on by all the predators in town, until Edg (in one of his own previous incarnations) rode by on a white horse and saved me. He took me back to his castle and put me up on a pedestal and treated me great, and in time I, too realized my own enlightenment and my own abilities as a latent siddha master. And, having learned from my previous karma with Buddha's woman disciple, I did *not* use the light-my-fire siddhi to repay his white-knight- like generosity. I turned him into a toad instead, and wound up marrying a raja, whom I later took to the cleaners in a Vedic divorce court. Thus unfold the mysteries of karma... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Are you saying that there are no Lady Rajas.?? Is he an enlightened Wife-beater.?? Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:01:55 + (GMT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Well, not to rain on anyone's parade, but rajas prolly come in all stripes. I happen to know for a fact that a raja exists who's also a wife-beater. I, too, want to know where all the white women are---and the niggers, now that I think of it. a __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I'm sure he's an enlightened wife-beater. Ladies would be Ranis not Rajas, but yes, I'd like to know if ladies are eligible to buy that status for a million bucks. How about black, yellow, and red Rajas?? Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that there are no Lady Rajas.?? Is he an enlightened Wife-beater.?? Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:01:55 + (GMT) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Well, not to rain on anyone's parade, but rajas prolly come in all stripes. I happen to know for a fact that a raja exists who's also a wife-beater. I, too, want to know where all the white women are---and the niggers, now that I think of it. a __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blake said, I see through my senses, not with them. and I agree, but not really the point of my question earlier. I appreciate that the way the objects of the senses are interpreted by the mind is different in different conscious states. My question was whether or not the senses themselves produce different inputs to the mind, different inputs from those commonly understood, after our consciousness continues to refine? In other words, in an advanced state, does green begin to appear orange, or do roses smell like gardenias, or something like that? Granted, after a certain point of development, different worlds can be experienced; celestial vision, et al. However, IME that is a conscious choice made, in order to see with that sight. I was thinking more along the automatic, can't prevent it type of sensory perception, being altered continuously. My conclusion from your and Rory's answer is neither of you experience the input of your senses any differently in everyday situations. That is my experience also. Seemed like an intriguing idea is all.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The intergalactic part sounds very interesting, particularly if there are gross manifestations of it. I think it may freak people out though, which could be a good thing if done gently... R: Yes, and Steven Greer's story (which sounds like a good one) is there are also pysch-ops involving faked ET's to *create* terror, support yet more industrial-militarization and loss of liberties, etc. Could well be. That's why (like Steven) I'd like to emphasize the consciousness-attunement part of Contact. Harder to get fooled or misled in any meaningful way when we are primarily perceiving from the heart rather than merely through the senses. I agree, though many folks probably won't have a clue what that means. Not that that is insurmountable, though for the whole intergalactic hug fest to work, consciousness of the average human has to be far more advanced than it is today, and I don't know whether that is in the cards, or even desirable from the standpoint of the souls incarnated here. Might be more than many of us bargained for. J: My question was specifically regarding the senses, vs. our accomodation of them, and by not taking exception to that part of my question, you have answered it, which oddly enough is the answer I was hoping to hear. I have had some slight residual confusion left over from the days (daze?) of separation, where the only way I could conceive of Unity at that time, was that something would tangibly happen to my senses, much in the way that it does with perceiving the finest relative, within the state of God Realization (, BIG word...lol), and for example, everything would have around it the same sort of aura, or somesuch. R: Yes, I find that that may be the case, particularly if we are doing concentrated Raam-raj particle (desideratum) work -- if we are giving the particles Love, Beauty, etc., then when we collapse into the particulate perception it can be *overwhelmingly* Love, Beauty, etc., through the senses. But that seems to be the theme for me these days -- learning to take more responsibility for the subtle, ordinary thoughts that *create* the experiences that just happened to us when we were locked in particle-I mode (i.e., before dying). Me too-- same theme. MMY's slipping on the banana peel analogy...I don't sense love and beauty directly through my five senses, though I can aggregate my sensory experience into those sublime emotions, or infuse my experience with them. There isn't a one-to-one relationship though; red always remains red, whether is the red of a cut finger, or a rose. We apparently tend to repeat an experience only until we get it, though, and after that there's really no need; we've distilled the wisdom we were trying to show ourselves. Yes, I have the same experience. J: When you were talking about your interaction with extraterrestrial beings in an earlier post, I remembered that question, and since you experience subtle sight to a slightly more refined degree than I do, I had the opportunity to ask you my question. Anyway, I always enjoy interacting with those who have woken up or whatever we want to call it, or not, comparing notes and stuff. It is sometimes easier to get questions answered this way, and I sure appreciate having access to those like you with simple, clear perception. Sounds like you are having a great time in Fairfield! R: If pressed, I could probably tell myself a pretty honest story to that effect, yes :-) Context is everything, yes? (Thanks for posting your music, that was impressive!) Glad you liked it. It is a far different medium for me to work in vs the visual arts; more digital and discrete vs the analog ebb and flow of visual art; easier emotionally too, though not any more or less satisfying. *L*L*L*
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OK, sorry I was too dense to appreciate your question. But now that I understand it, I'd have to say that yes, the senses do change. Green doesn't change to orange, but I smell heavenly scents that others don't smell and I hear music others don't hear. These are, of course, classic symptoms of some kinds of mental illness also. I see a luminousness and translucence in things that I didn't always see, except in flashes. And beauty seems more prevalent and more intense than it used to be, except in flashes. When I close my eyes, I see my own body made of light. That is sensory perception that has not always been available to me. With my eyes closed, I can literally see my hands even when I hold them behind my back. With my eyes closed and blindfolded in a dark room, I can see the color of objects. This ability is not always available, but it is developing. Intelligence is fully active on the retinal level, so it follows that if you increase intelligence that more of it might inform retinal imaging. I said before that I often see the future, sometimes in great depth and detail. That is sensory perception too. I remember once having to pick up some guy at the air port. He was supposed to give a talk at the university. I forgot to ask what he looked like or what identifying features might be. On the way to the airport, I saw him clearly in my mind's eye and later recognized him based on that mental image. The funny part was that the mental image was from the back of his head, but it was vision/knowledge so complete that I knew what his face looked like. a jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blake said, I see through my senses, not with them. and I agree, but not really the point of my question earlier. I appreciate that the way the objects of the senses are interpreted by the mind is different in different conscious states. My question was whether or not the senses themselves produce different inputs to the mind, different inputs from those commonly understood, after our consciousness continues to refine? In other words, in an advanced state, does green begin to appear orange, or do roses smell like gardenias, or something like that? Granted, after a certain point of development, different worlds can be experienced; celestial vision, et al. However, IME that is a conscious choice made, in order to see with that sight. I was thinking more along the automatic, can't prevent it type of sensory perception, being altered continuously. My conclusion from your and Rory's answer is neither of you experience the input of your senses any differently in everyday situations. That is my experience also. Seemed like an intriguing idea is all. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, sorry I was too dense to appreciate your question. But now that I understand it, I'd have to say that yes, the senses do change. Green doesn't change to orange, but I smell heavenly scents that others don't smell and I hear music others don't hear. *Yes, this might be what I am asking about, though it almost sounds like the willful shift in perception I can have when I want to, to turn on my celestial perception. These are, of course, classic symptoms of some kinds of mental illness also. *Brain tumors also. I see a luminousness and translucence in things that I didn't always see, except in flashes. *Yeah, I can't tell anymore about that. I appreciate my sensory inputs so much more, and my perception is so much clearer, whether that is basic sensory input, or a different filter, I don't know. And beauty seems more prevalent and more intense than it used to be, except in flashes. When I close my eyes, I see my own body made of light. That is sensory perception that has not always been available to me. With my eyes closed, I can literally see my hands even when I hold them behind my back. With my eyes closed and blindfolded in a dark room, I can see the color of objects. This ability is not always available, but it is developing. Intelligence is fully active on the retinal level, so it follows that if you increase intelligence that more of it might inform retinal imaging. *Great idea! I'll squirrel that one away... I said before that I often see the future, sometimes in great depth and detail. That is sensory perception too. I remember once having to pick up some guy at the air port. He was supposed to give a talk at the university. I forgot to ask what he looked like or what identifying features might be. On the way to the airport, I saw him clearly in my mind's eye and later recognized him based on that mental image. The funny part was that the mental image was from the back of his head, but it was vision/knowledge so complete that I knew what his face looked like. a *That all sounds similar to stuff that has developed with my subtle senses too, though I am especially interested in the transformation of everyday common sensory input. *Thanks for an interesting dialog
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurk: Personally, I sense much authenticity. Rory: I wanted to come back to this for a moment, Steve -- how could we sense much authenticity if we didn't in some manner already know the truth? IMO you sense much authenticity because you know me; you remember where I'm coming from and you and I resonate; in a sense you're aware of a place where there is only one of Us :-) Lurk: Yea, life is pretty exciting although I may have more shades of grey. Sounds like you have more of the living technicolor :) If you are perceiving me through your consciousness, then I think it is probably *your consciousness* that has the more of the living technicolor, no? Do you not contain what you perceive as me, and infinitely more? :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great man said, A Civilisation is known by how it treats it's weakest member. These factors should not impede an intellectual civilisation. Such a civilisation would know how to handle these problems in a Civilised and Scientific way. Remember the story of Buddha. A beautiful woman wanted to be his disciple. Buddha told her that when she becomes sick, diseased and loses all her beauty he will come and show her compassion and also the path to Enlightment. I think Barry would tell the story more accurately. As it turns out, I can in fact shed some light on this story, because in a previous incarnation I was there as one of Buddha's disciples during this very incident. The woman -- who was a major babe, BTW, with just enormous...uh...intellects -- was a little distraught over being dissed by the Budh-man, so I offered to take her out for a drink or two. Of course I ran my older guy with a little wisdom to work with predator number on her and within a few days she was shacked up in my cave with me, catering to my every whim -- most of them *far* more deviant than any that Edg has thought up. Within a few months she was lookin' far less beautiful and more than a little used, so I kicked her out of the cave and found myself an even younger babe. The woman, however, now far less beautiful, got noticed by Buddha, who now found her acceptable as a disciple, and in short order she realized her full enlightenment and became a noted siddha master. Once she'd mastered the siddhi of being able to light fires with her mind, she came back to my cave and burned me and the younger babe I'd dumped her for alive. I still remember her evil (but enlightened) cackle. In my next life I was reborn as a luscious young babe myself, being hit on by all the predators in town, until Edg (in one of his own previous incarnations) rode by on a white horse and saved me. He took me back to his castle and put me up on a pedestal and treated me great, and in time I, too realized my own enlightenment and my own abilities as a latent siddha master. And, having learned from my previous karma with Buddha's woman disciple, I did *not* use the light-my-fire siddhi to repay his white-knight-like generosity. I turned him into a toad instead, and wound up marrying a raja, whom I later took to the cleaners in a Vedic divorce court. Thus unfold the mysteries of karma...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it disrupt the kumbaya vibe too much to say fuck Bevan? OK then let's just focus on how cool Peggy is an not focus on what a total dipshit Bevan is. Oh sorry that kinda harshed the buzz there, I didn't mean to distract from our open hearts flowing to an original spirit like Peggy just to flip the bird to a human buttplug. Wow, sorry, I didn't mean for that to leak out, what I mean is that the positive vibes of remembering Peggy shouldn't be shadowed in any way by my own limits of seeing Bevan as anything but taco turds packed into an ill fitting suit...ooops...I guess I'll just leave it at that. Peggy rules. (Bevan, not so much) Why I still bother to read FFL, in one short paragraph! Thanks Curtis...I'm going to be chuckling over this one all day.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ? Sure, a crashing boar even :-) Seriously, I'll take it wherever I can get it -- a rock, a drunk, a dog, an angel, a demon -- it's all the same, with different spins. And FWIW I am now far more an ordinary man on the street than I ever was before, though I have a good deal of specialness to dissolve yet, particularly in this medium :-) If you can receive knowledge from rocks then fine, congratulations ! I doubt that most of your fellow men would approve that knowledge though, or bother to listen to what you had to say about rock science :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ? Sure, a crashing boar even :-) Seriously, I'll take it wherever I can get it -- a rock, a drunk, a dog, an angel, a demon -- it's all the same, with different spins. And FWIW I am now far more an ordinary man on the street than I ever was before, though I have a good deal of specialness to dissolve yet, particularly in this medium :-) If you can receive knowledge from rocks then fine, congratulations ! I doubt that most of your fellow men would approve that knowledge though, or bother to listen to what you had to say about rock science :-) For some reason, most people I talk to *do* seem to be interested in what I say; maybe because of the relentless enthusiasm of my usual persona, or maybe they're only being polite to a crashing bore and I can't even read their body language; who knows? It was a rock who first showed me the intense ecstacy of being densely physical -- the more apparently dense, the more intense the bliss, showing me another layer of the spirit-and-matter-are-one lesson -- and another who showed me something of how *they* perceive Being in time. Another showed me how *s/he* too is a devotee of the Self. I don't consciously commune with them all that often.
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You're in good company with the rocks, Rory. Shakespeare heard sermons in stones. a Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ? Sure, a crashing boar even :-) Seriously, I'll take it wherever I can get it -- a rock, a drunk, a dog, an angel, a demon -- it's all the same, with different spins. And FWIW I am now far more an ordinary man on the street than I ever was before, though I have a good deal of specialness to dissolve yet, particularly in this medium :-) If you can receive knowledge from rocks then fine, congratulations ! I doubt that most of your fellow men would approve that knowledge though, or bother to listen to what you had to say about rock science :-) For some reason, most people I talk to *do* seem to be interested in what I say; maybe because of the relentless enthusiasm of my usual persona, or maybe they're only being polite to a crashing bore and I can't even read their body language; who knows? It was a rock who first showed me the intense ecstacy of being densely physical -- the more apparently dense, the more intense the bliss, showing me another layer of the spirit-and-matter-are-one lesson -- and another who showed me something of how *they* perceive Being in time. Another showed me how *s/he* too is a devotee of the Self. I don't consciously commune with them all that often. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Luke 19 (New International Version) 39Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, Teacher, rebuke your disciples! 40I tell you, he replied, if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out. So, Jesus knew rocks. And they say that Guru Dev could glance a one and be blown away by the power of the darshan -- Rocks are melting they'd say -- meaning even the rocks have sentience enough to hear truth. Why not, eh? Every speck of existence is a holy portal. Edg Rory Goff wrote: It was a rock who first showed me the intense ecstacy of being densely physical -- the more apparently dense, the more intense the bliss, showing me another layer of the spirit-and-matter-are-one lesson -- and another who showed me something of how *they* perceive Being in time. Another showed me how *s/he* too is a devotee of the Self. I don't consciously commune with them all that often.
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curtis wrote: I didn't mean to distract from our open hearts flowing to an original spirit like Peggy just to flip the bird to a human buttplug. Well, thanks, Curtis, for bringing the vibe down to your level!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're in good company with the rocks, Rory. Shakespeare heard sermons in stones. a I love Shakespeare, in very small doses -- have written several plays with his inspiration. Though I know nothing at all, for certain, I absolutely love understanding him in the light of his having been Oxford -- allows me to understand *why* and *how* he wrote much of what he did...
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do.rflex wrote: Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO. Well, considering the fact that you've probably never even met a single TMO Raja, I guess we now know who the bigot and elitist prick is. But it is funny that you'd call them pricks when you've been practicing the Raja Yoga for over forty years.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO. Well, considering the fact that you've probably never even met a single TMO Raja, I guess we now know who the bigot and elitist prick is. But it is funny that you'd call them pricks when you've been practicing the Raja Yoga for over forty years. I have to say, the one Raja I have had the pleasure to meet -- Raja Roger at the Raj -- impressed me deeply with the rosy unconditional Love of his Heart-field. We could not stop pranaaming to each other *lol*-- Love Loves Love :-)
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Well, not to rain on anyone's parade, but rajas prolly come in all stripes. I happen to know for a fact that a raja exists who's also a wife-beater. I, too, want to know where all the white women are---and the niggers, now that I think of it. a Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO. Well, considering the fact that you've probably never even met a single TMO Raja, I guess we now know who the bigot and elitist prick is. But it is funny that you'd call them pricks when you've been practicing the Raja Yoga for over forty years. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO. Well, considering the fact that you've probably never even met a single TMO Raja, I guess we now know who the bigot and elitist prick is. But it is funny that you'd call them pricks when you've been practicing the Raja Yoga for over forty years. I have to say, the one Raja I have had the pleasure to meet -- Raja Roger at the Raj -- impressed me deeply with the rosy unconditional Love of his Heart-field. We could not stop pranaaming to each other *lol*-- Love Loves Love :-) He's married to Candace Oliver, who would keep him from moodmaking! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say, the one Raja I have had the pleasure to meet -- Raja Roger at the Raj -- impressed me deeply with the rosy unconditional Love of his Heart-field. We could not stop pranaaming to each other *lol*-- Love Loves Love :-) The raj is continually advertising for help wanted because they are unable to keep staff because they treat them so badly as is widely known among the laborers of ffld. treating the serfs badly is common practice among tmo royalty. rosy heart field my ass...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I have to say, the one Raja I have had the pleasure to meet -- Raja Roger at the Raj -- impressed me deeply with the rosy unconditional Love of his Heart-field. We could not stop pranaaming to each other *lol*-- Love Loves Love :-) The raj is continually advertising for help wanted because they are unable to keep staff because they treat them so badly as is widely known among the laborers of ffld. treating the serfs badly is common practice among tmo royalty. rosy heart field my ass... I can't tell you how he appears to others; only to me :-)
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The raj is continually advertising for help wanted because they are unable to keep staff because they treat them so badly as is widely known among the laborers of ffld. treating the serfs badly is common practice among tmo royalty. rosy heart field my ass... I can't tell you how he appears to others; only to me :-) And in the larger picture, how he seems to you seems immaterial, and perhaps quite off base, if such persons manifest actions are selfish, exploitive, and callous.
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The raj is continually advertising for help wanted because they are unable to keep staff because they treat them so badly as is widely known among the laborers of ffld. treating the serfs badly is common practice among tmo royalty. rosy heart field my ass... R: I can't tell you how he appears to others; only to me :-) new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in the larger picture, how he seems to you seems immaterial, R (interrupting, as usual): YES! Immaterial. Exactly! New (continued): and perhaps quite off base, if such persons manifest actions are selfish, exploitive, and callous. R: That may be your larger picture; it isn't mine. For me, the contents of the drama *have no bearing* on my appreciation of the actor; I don't generally judge someone by how they act or, even less, by how others perceive them to be acting. I judge them only by how much they Love Me, how at home we are together in this moment. My love is unconditioned by action, by the gunas; it's unconditional love. Its only condition is ItSelf. Selfish? You bet. :-) Deal! *lol*
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Pegggy She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. snip her current video is amazing Lurk: Our paths crossed a little. But I have to say, I didn't really find anything too inspiring about it. Kind of boiler plate - Thumblina what's the difference if you're very small, when your heart is full of love, you're ten feet tall type of thing. Inspiring? Sure, as is any story about someone who overcomes the odds. But, I don't think she covered much new ground. YMMV.
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Someone: If you can receive knowledge from rocks then fine, congratulations! I doubt that most of your fellow men would approve that knowledge though, or bother to listen to what you had to say about rock science :-) Rory: It was a rock who first showed me the intense ecstacy of being densely physical -- the more apparently dense, the more intense the bliss, showing me another layer of the spirit-and-matter-are-one lesson -- and another who showed me something of how *they* perceive Being in time. Another showed me how *s/he* too is a devotee of the Self. I don't consciously commune with them all that often. Lurk: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. That said, I must admit, I find his eloquetion and description of things fascinating. Here's what I wonder. Rory can go sentence after sentence about wild, celestial connections and relationships - in a pretty certain way. If you asked him a week later about this same knowledge, would it come out the same? Or maybe these descriptions are just a flow of consciousness which sounds good at the moment - and not much more.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. That said, I must admit, I find his eloquetion and description of things fascinating. Here's what I wonder. Rory can go sentence after sentence about wild, celestial connections and relationships in a pretty certain way. If you asked him a week later about this same knowledge, would it come out the same? Or maybe these descriptions are just a flow of consciousness which sounds good at the moment - and not much more. I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. That said, I must admit, I find his eloquetion and description of things fascinating. Here's what I wonder. Rory can go sentence after sentence about wild, celestial connections and relationships in a pretty certain way. If you asked him a week later about this same knowledge, would it come out the same? Or maybe these descriptions are just a flow of consciousness which sounds good at the moment - and not much more. I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. :-) So what?
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She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Alex Stanley wrote: Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies. OMG, you are quite right; my bad! (wishing my memory served me like it used to ...)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. That said, I must admit, I find his eloquetion and description of things fascinating. Here's what I wonder. Rory can go sentence after sentence about wild, celestial connections and relationships in a pretty certain way. If you asked him a week later about this same knowledge, would it come out the same? Or maybe these descriptions are just a flow of consciousness which sounds good at the moment - and not much more. I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. :-) As opposed to 100% rubbish from Barry, all of the time :-)
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On Nov 10, 2007, at 2:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. :-) As opposed to 100% rubbish from Barry, all of the time :-) For the record, I have no problem with Nablus' mathematical assessment of my value here. :-) Great come-backs! I think you're *both* on a roll today. Really, you two wouldn't make a bad team. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 10, 2007, at 2:24 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I think of both Rory's raps and Jim's as 200% of life: * 10% actual (though minor) realization experiences, * 95% moodmaking, and * 95% New Age bullshit. :-) As opposed to 100% rubbish from Barry, all of the time :-) For the record, I have no problem with Nablus' mathematical assessment of my value here. :-) Great come-backs! I think you're *both* on a roll today. Really, you two wouldn't make a bad team. I completely agree that Nablus, as much as we might disagree on specifics, has a truly weird sense of humor that I really appreciate. But, as I think about it later, Sal, I was actually -- for once -- fairly serious in clas- sing my value here as rubbish. I am *comfortable* with that assessment of my life. Really. On another forum, there is a thread about some former students of Rama (Frederick Lenz) wishing that someone had done the definitive biography of him. They're wishing that the foundation that he set up before he died would sponsor such a biography, and that someone worthy would be chosen to write it. My few contributions to this thread have been along two lines. The first is my fervent belief that the only meaningful biography of a spiritual teacher worth writing a biography about could not possibly be written by one person. The result would be only that person's view of the teacher, and of what impact his life had on planet Earth. My view comes is more in accord with Rama's own. He felt that, because the student's view of the teacher, whether the teacher is enlightened or not, depends pretty much entirely on the state of con- sciousness of the student, the only really meaning- ful biography or telling of tales about a truly enlightened teacher would have to be written by *hundreds* of students who studied with them. That's how the dude approached things in real life, too. Perhaps the best things ever written about the guy are *compilations* -- mulitple stories about what it was like to hang with him, many of them completely contradictory. His feeling was that the enlightened are so far off the map that only multiple viewpoints on what it was like to hang with them could capture the essence of what it was like *to* hang with them. The second line I have been taking on this subject is that I think Rama already wrote his own autobiog- raphy, so this whole exercise in self importance is kinda moot. Of all his writings, what I suspect he'd like the most, and want to appear as his assessment of himself, is the introduction he wrote to the last story in the compilation book his students wrote about him 'way back when. It was fairly simple: I am not important. Today I am here and tomorrow I will be gone. This is my freedom. I am not important. I like that. Call me weird, but I aspire to nothing less.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:46 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: The second line I have been taking on this subject is that I think Rama already wrote his own autobiog- raphy, so this whole exercise in self importance is kinda moot. Of all his writings, what I suspect he'd like the most, and want to appear as his assessment of himself, is the introduction he wrote to the last story in the compilation book his students wrote about him 'way back when. It was fairly simple: I am not important. Today I am here and tomorrow I will be gone. This is my freedom. I am not important. I like that. Call me weird, but I aspire to nothing less. Excellent summation of why self-importance is so, well, self-defeating. It's sort of the whole letting-go thing. Exactly. How much self are you free of if you consider your self and its existence and its qualities important to the world? It's just preference on my part -- nothing more -- but I find more of a resonance with the teachers of the past who viewed themselves as mere tourists on the spiritual landscape, not as its landscape designers. As a result, who am I going to identify with? Will it be the teacher who talks a lot about how important he and his life and his teachings are to the future of planet Earth, or to the cosmos as a whole? Or will it be the guy who sees himself as Just Passing Through, trying his best to Figure Things Out, just as everyone around him is doing? Well, duh. :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lurk: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. That said, I must admit, I find his eloquetion and description of things fascinating. Here's what I wonder. Rory can go sentence after sentence about wild, celestial connections and relationships - in a pretty certain way. If you asked him a week later about this same knowledge, would it come out the same? Or maybe these descriptions are just a flow of consciousness which sounds good at the moment - and not much more. Are you asking me, personally, Steve, or not? You refer to me as Rory and he rather than you as if you would rather talk about me behind my back, as it were. If you're actually asking for my opinion, then these stories are just that -- stories. Experiences and memories; no more, no less. They tend to stay pretty much the same over the decades, though I suspect with some memory-degradation over time. If you really care, you can see for yourself re the stories up to 1990 or so if you read the autobiography on artesmagicae.com. I wrote most of that in 1997, IIRC, ten years ago.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you asking me, personally, Steve, or not? You refer to me as Rory and he rather than you as if you would rather talk about me behind my back, as it were. If you're actually asking for my opinion, then these stories are just that -- stories. Experiences and memories; no more, no less. They tend to stay pretty much the same over the decades, though I suspect with some memory-degradation over time. If you really care, you can see for yourself re the stories up to 1990 or so if you read the autobiography on artesmagicae.com. I wrote most of that in 1997, IIRC, ten years ago. That said, I *do* appreciate the opportunity to (re)write this old stuff here, because in talking to myself out loud here, as it were, new connections happen, as they did today -- allowing me to appreciate the old rubbish in a brand new light, making a new kaleidoscope pattern out of random bits of colored glass. :-)
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Lurk: One thing you ain't gonna do is tie Rory down. Not gonna happen. snip Rory: Are you asking me, personally, Steve, or not? You refer to me as Rory and he rather than you as if you would rather talk about me behind my back, as it were. If you're actually asking for my opinion, then these stories are just that -- stories. Experiences and memories; no more, no less. They tend to stay pretty much the same over the decades, though I suspect with some memory-degradation over time. If you really care, you can see for yourself re the stories up to 1990 or so if you read the autobiography on artesmagicae.com. I wrote most of that in 1997, IIRC, ten years ago. Lurk: Nice. Thank you for the direct comeback. Rare to get a concrete reply from Rory, D'OH, I mean YOU. Rory, I find your posts remarkable, and entertaining. I mean you make pretty much everyone else here seem firmly grounded. (Nabby excluded) I do wonder how YOU operate in the real world, when your day to day experience seems so celestial. Personally, I sense much authenticity. Your descriptions just seem so far a field from my daily life, that I wonder if they are more poetry, than actual experience. At any rate, thanks for spending time here. You leave your soft underside pretty exposed, and we know what that can invite.
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lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lurk: Nice. Thank you for the direct comeback. Rare to get a concrete reply from Rory, D'OH, I mean YOU. R: *lol* Good one! :-) S: Rory, I find your posts remarkable, and entertaining. I mean you make pretty much everyone else here seem firmly grounded. (Nabby excluded) I do wonder how YOU operate in the real world, when your day to day experience seems so celestial. R: It's really not describable as celestial or mundane, day to day, Steve. If I tried to describe it as either this or that, exclusively special or ordinary in any given moment I would be lying: making up a false story, indulging in unnecessary duality. It's none of the above, and simultaneously all of the above. It truly just IS; we just Is. I do the things that present themselves to me to do, in the time they want to be done. We flow. The universe and I are in love, surrendered, merged, in constant intercourse, and generally growing more trusting and loving of each other and accommodating on a pretty regular curve. But it's also quite simple and ordinary. Other than what I am doing right now, I generally haven't a real clue what is going to physically present itself in the next moment. It's a lot like (what I imagine as) senility in some ways. If you're interested in the nitty-gritty of the dream-drama, my wife and I currently have a great Victorian house in Fairfield, are selling the one in Maine, and we are working on a couple of books (histories of Fairfield, though I may get around to reworking and updating the autobiography and publishing it someday. The time seems to be getting riper for that, in my own understanding of the symmetry of the themes that have unfolded. My thanks to you guys on FFL for much of that.) I find myself in the Library for a couple-three hours most days,doing what I've always enjoyed -- reading really old newspapers, taking notes and doing genealogy for the books. I often hang out in Revelations for a few hours a day chatting with my old and new friends. That's an unexpected delight Life has shown us these past few years. We take trips every so often around the country, mostly to do research and explore. S: Personally, I sense much authenticity. R: Hah! Thanks. I do the best I can. It's damned difficult to present this stuff as honestly as possible, communicating the beauty and impact *without* also implying the false glamour which people tend to ascribe to it. I fear I am as yet unable to honestly and clearly convey either the tangible ordinariness of the celestial or the divine immensity of the simply ordinary, both poles being always freely available. S: Your descriptions just seem so far a field from my daily life, that I wonder if they are more poetry, than actual experience. At any rate, thanks for spending time here. You leave your soft underside pretty exposed, and we know what that can invite. R: Sweet! Many thanks; it's a real pleasure to be here right now. Very good to connect with you, too, Steve. I think I get where you're coming from; if I hadn't experienced this rubbish I probably wouldn't believe it myself. But FWIW it is actual experience, though that too is not other than poetry. You're right about me; for a good many years, like many TMers I wanted to get up and out, away from the painful mundane, and experience the divine, celestial, cosmic, whatever. Fortunately or unfortunately, I had a physiology (as we used to say) that somewhat pandered to that flashy addiction. I was indeed pretty ungrounded then, though still going to college and grad school, holding down jobs, getting married, all that regular stuff. The root of that up-and-out impulse pretty much died along with everything else when I finally accepted to my great relief/chagrin that I am, it IS, and always had been, what I had been looking for all along, and my task now was to pull a U-turn and actually start living life here, now, *down in* the physical body, integrating all that other stuff with life on earth, to revivify the dead man walking. No experiences out there in the subtle worlds, no matter how celestial and enticing, and no states of consciousness could ever again entrance me as they (and the pursuit of them) had all done before, for I saw now that they are all temporary, all subject to spacetime, all reflections out there of extremely subtle thoughts or moods in here. They are not the source of our satisfaction; they are the mask of it (if we don't know the emptiful void) or the result of it (if we've made our peace with and surrendered into Us. (Even though the root-cause of all addiction -- my identification with a small I -- was here exposed to the great destruction, all my petty character-qualities, habits, flaws, addictions, etc. have pretty much limped along automatically on their own almost as they did before, winding down gradually only as they come to my
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: Do you think a true Rishi would bother about people jumping ships.?? All he has to do is to teach people TM and TM itself would do the rest. Why should a true Rishi try to flatter Goofs.?? Why should he associate himself with Goofs.?? A man is known by the company he keeps.?? ** Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light Here is the text with a correction to the link: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards As Maharishi notes in a pamphlet from the 60s titled The Divine Plan (reprinted in Meditations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi), only a gradual approach to enlightening the world can be successful when people live at such a low level of life: When the objectivity [man's material life] overtakes subjectivity ... completely then the only way left for the subjectivity is that it should gradually rise up in such a way that its regeneration does not in any way tend to overthrow the validity of material life. On the other hand, the manner of spiritual regeneration should be such that instead of creating fear and havoc to material life, the growing spiritual values should supplement and reinforce the values of material existence. This is the working policy of the Divine Plan. The Spiritual Regeneration Movement is carrying this out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth.
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Lurk: Something seems to trigger this in Bob periodically. I think when something absurd like the Raja coronation comes up, Bob lapses into this theory. The way to understand it, I think, is to visualize Bob with tears in his eyes, heartbroken that this is what has become of the TMO, which, deep down, he still loves. This is the lament of a heartbroken follower. HH: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality.This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth.
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--- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. It's a nice idea and I can see where Bob gets it from but I prefer Lurkers viewpoint, but OK lets pretend Bob is right. Now imagine a delegation of top business men, people like Bill Gates, Richard Branson etc, visit TM headquarters and offer to help spread the word. What does MMY say? I only employ idiots? No I didn't think so either. I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com#light bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:20:16 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today MMY did not begin his work halfway thru the Sat Yuga, when folks are smart and friendly, but in the Kali Yuga, when people are weak and stupid in every way. If MMY has to flatter goofs to keep them from jumping ship, then that's the way it's got to be. But, really, all people are made in the image of God, so if you want to salute the godliness in them, that's ultimately true anyway. Also, MMY is making it clear that administration from the level of the consitution of the universe is not really administration at all: 'When there was lot of administration, there was a lot of controversy to be reconciled here and there and there so far. So for the assembly of mankind there was administration needed, but now today that administration will be just a name, and a name may show some shadow of it. But in reality the world is going to be administered on its own which is the ultimate level of, for want of a word we say, Being, Being, Being, Being.' http://www.globalgo odnews.com/ world-peace- a.html?art= 1193940660953239 It's such a joy to read your tiredless exposition of knowledge Bob ! Again and again you remind people of what they do not want to hear, which is precisely what they need ofcourse. But few of the posters here have a clue of what you so brilliantly state, instead they rant on and on, year after year exposing their ignorance, about how shallow the TMO is. Let's at least hope that some lurkers read and understand your posts. Well done Bob Brigante !
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ?
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Curtis, I saw Peggy in June of '06 at a gallery opening in Venice Beach (Toc Fetch and Tricia Cline at Obsolete). She looked good, lots of energy and enthusiasm, and we talked for some time catching up but I don't remember many particulars. If I remember correctly, she lives in SoCal and is involved in some spiritual work but I don't recall exactly what it is. It's been some time since she lived in Hawaii. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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Thanks Marek. Funny how many intersections of people through our lives we have in common. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, I saw Peggy in June of '06 at a gallery opening in Venice Beach (Toc Fetch and Tricia Cline at Obsolete). She looked good, lots of energy and enthusiasm, and we talked for some time catching up but I don't remember many particulars. If I remember correctly, she lives in SoCal and is involved in some spiritual work but I don't recall exactly what it is. It's been some time since she lived in Hawaii. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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What an excellent match for her skills! Thanks Rick her site looks great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What an excellent match for her skills! Thanks Rick her site looks great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. Any word on what she is up to these days? Last I heard she was in Hawaii. She was an original spirit. She was also a great teacher with tons of personal presence. MMY was lucky to have her on the team so it makes me sad to hear he didn't understand what a great representative she was. Peggy was always ten feet tall to me. Full of joy and intelligence. She became a motivational speaker: http://www.yopeggy.com/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Shame. Shame. Shame.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Perhaps you underestimate the integrity of the ordinary man, most of us see beyond physical appearance and judge people on what they are like inside, it doesn't say much for you enlightened types if you're hung up on irrelevances. Have a look at the video clip Curtis posted and tell me you would walk away, I think it would be your loss if you did.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-)
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On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Shame. Shame. Shame. Hehe
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:41 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Don’t know about that, but King Janaka had no qualms about being instructed by a dwarf: “Ashtavakra grew into a spiritually advanced rishi and realised Atman. He went to HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MithilaMithila and instructed King HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JanakaJanaka about the concept of Atman. These teachings form the content of the HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra_GitaAshtavakra Gita or HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra_SamhitaAshtavakra Samhita as it is sometimes called.” (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: 11/8/2007 5:55 PM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I'm going to assume this isn't a joke, if I'm wrong and you're just pulling our legs I apologise in advance and also doff my cap to your superior surreality. This is one of the most weirdly deluded things I've ever read. I can't imagine how depressing it must be to have to resort to rationalisations like this in an attempt to justify the failures of the TMO, failures that you obviously acknowledge. It's time to face facts Bob, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And that is the sorry truth. This has always beens Bob's hypothesis to explain the whacky-factor in MMY and the TMO. At first I had your reaction, but over the years I've become more and more open to this hypothesis. I mean, why not? It certainly resolves many questions and it lets you feel otay about the big Mahesh. It's a nice idea and I can see where Bob gets it from but I prefer Lurkers viewpoint, but OK lets pretend Bob is right. Now imagine a delegation of top business men, people like Bill Gates, Richard Branson etc, visit TM headquarters and offer to help spread the word. What does MMY say? I only employ idiots? No I didn't think so either. I think M takes what he can get, I'm certain he would rather have had Speilberg or Cameron than Lynch. Or Hawking rather than Hagelin but that's who was interested. Which is the main criterion for working near the top. I'm no at all certain that M would really want Speilberg or Cameron. It would almost certainly mean giving up total control. Look at all the twists and turns Lynch had to go through with his Foundation to have some control over the resources that he raised. A foundation to help raise an out-of-line TM fee - how silly is that JohnY
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Using the same shallow, idiotic, boneheaded thinking, one could just as easily ask: Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dot-head nigger wrapped in a sheet?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Bigotry is alive and well among the elitist pricks in the TMO.
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Curtis, thanks for articulating this (below). And particularly the point that at no time in the past has any culture or civilization (that we/I know of) embraced compassion as a fundamental rule of conduct and policy. I love the idea of a golden age, but if it exists anywhere it's not in the past but in our earnestness to make it present in what each of us as individuals do and say right now. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? One of the incarnations of Vishnu was a dwarf. The famous Vedic sage Ashtavakra was deformed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtavakra Surely the normal person would recognise the dwarf as Vishnu. ;-) Not to mention if He once again decided to reincarnate as a boar... He'd end up on your plate perhaps.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. Peggy is such a fantastic ambassador for this kind of acceptance because other than her size she has always been a beautiful charming person. You would have to be such an ass not to feel respect for her intelligence and open heart in her presence. Going to classes day after day with her eventually changed how I much I noticed her size. After a while I guess our brains get bored noticing something that means so little. I remember seeing someone put their hand on her head like you might a child. She let them have it very firmly. It was a lesson for me that I never forgot. (I wont even touch kids this way because I really get it!) We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. Good ol' Peggy stirred up all this from just thinking about her again! You shine a clear light on things Curtis. Very interesting post. I always forgive the past for having different values, I guess this annoys me because it's a willful acceptance of something out of date that I abhor. The whole idea of evolution is that we move forwards.
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Intresting point Sri Brigante. But using Goofs to lead the world is like the ' blind leading the blind.' bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:33:40 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Out of compassion for suffering humanity, the Divine Plan which MMY is carrying out requires Maharishi to use stupid people to reach out to a stupid world. The usual reaction of a very dark world is to kill those who want to enlighten it, as was shown with Jesus, the plot by Kamsa to kill Krishna, etc. -- therefore, the Divine Plan is to only slowly unfold enlightement values, in order to avoid making creatures living in darkness feel fear and havoc from a sudden onset of expanded awareness. By using fatuous people to run the TMO, MMY ensures that growth of enlightenment values is slow, and he has explicitly stated this policy long ago: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.com# light __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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You mean like the way he takes allopathic medical treatment from specialist allopathic Doctors from London.?? What has he done really.?? kick the shit of the industrial civilisation with his team of Goof balls.?? The industrial civilisation is almost over.!! Whom are you trying to fool here Bimbo.?? You or me.?? jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:03:09 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today That's one way of looking at it-- my take is that he's too busy kicking the ever loving sh*t out of industrial civilization to bother with it much. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Spoken like a true Visionary CurtisDelta. During the pre-civilisation days, tribes that lived on the well travelled trails were friendly as they were used to strangers. Unfortunately, tribes that lived in isolation inevitably killed and ate strangers who happened to come across them. Fear of contracting new diseases could be one factor but Caniballism persisted only in remote isolated tribes. Evolution runs on mutations. There are three catagories on mutations. Positive, Neutral and Negative. In raw Nature the Negative ones are quickly weeded out. Neutral mutations confer no real survival advantages and slowly die out. Positive mutations confer huge survival advantage and such individual tends to leave more offsprings and consequently within a few generation that mutation becomes a dominant trait among the whole population. Vedic culture like all First-Wave cultures has it's own dogmas. This is why I maintain that Maharishi does not seem to have a clear understanding of how our civilisation evolved and that is something which certain ' Hardcore True Blue Believers ' in this forum don't understand. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:10:25 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. I saw an interesting show People of the Forrest which was a 20 year study of generations of Chimps in Gombe Africa. One chimp had a nervous manor and an odd face, sort of a cleft lip. The other chimps avoided her and she lived a solitary life on the outside of the tribe. She did raise kids but they also suffered from some sigma and never rose in the ranks. Salif Keta, the most famous singer from Mali Africa is albino. He had a very difficult life because people there consider them bad luck. In most animal societies the albinos get picked off because they are easier to spot so it may have its roots there. Now he is an international star and one of my favorite performers. I saw a tape of Michale J. Fox and heard about a woman who had MS and was shaking while she got her money out at a grocery store. All her life people had treated her like she was a drunk or mentally deranged. The clerk looked at her and said, Oh you have Michael J. Fox's disease don't you? She felt understood for the first time in her life. I make sure I connect with MS kids in my school shows at their appropriate age level because so often they are treated as infantile. Nabby's view is accurately Vedic civilization. It continues in India today as well as Africa and even here. But modern people are growing out of this ignorance with deeper knowledge of what the differences mean and what they don't. Hitler tried to kill anyone with a birth defect. He was taking this point of view to its logical but immoral conclusion. We are trained genetically to recognize those in our specific tribe and to be cautious of anyone who seems too different. The reaction of noticing the differences is natural. But what we do with this information is our choice. I am happy to see that in modern cultures there is a strong trend to get past these differences and see the basic humanity beneath them. Sometimes laws about being PC get it wrong and we are still fumbling a bit about how we can move this growth along. But I am really encouraged that mankind in some parts of the world are trying to live this wisdom. Glorifying a fantasy of the Vedic culture as perfect slows down our progress IMO. MMY is a product of his culture and its history and some of that history is cruel and wrong. If we want to live in a society that is filled with tolerance and wisdom, we are on uncharted territory. No civilization I know of in the past chose this perspective. But it feels right to me and the opposite seems so wrong. With our international cultural gumbo we can't go back to tribalism. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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A great man said, A Civilisation is known by how it treats it's weakest member. These factors should not impede an intellectual civilisation. Such a civilisation would know how to handle these problems in a Civilised and Scientific way. Remember the story of Buddha. A beautiful woman wanted to be his disciple. Buddha told her that when she becomes sick, diseased and loses all her beauty he will come and show her compassion and also the path to Enlightment. I think Barry would tell the story more accurately. What would you have done, had you been in Maharishi's shoes.?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:57:06 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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---This is sounding more like Herr Himmler!: He then mercilessly hunted down the family, even to distant relatives and had them executed or shipped to concentration camps. Similarly, the disabled or mentally ill were killed or sterilised so as not to pass on their bad blood, and Germans who had intercourse with slave workers, Jews or other inferiors were harshly punished. On the other hand, the elite SS were rewarded for having children, and had special brothels - the children of which were supported by the state In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A great man said, A Civilisation is known by how it treats it's weakest member. These factors should not impede an intellectual civilisation. Such a civilisation would know how to handle these problems in a Civilised and Scientific way. Remember the story of Buddha. A beautiful woman wanted to be his disciple. Buddha told her that when she becomes sick, diseased and loses all her beauty he will come and show her compassion and also the path to Enlightment. I think Barry would tell the story more accurately. What would you have done, had you been in Maharishi's shoes.?? Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:57:06 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today Probably not Hawking because MMY feels that people with birth defects or crippling diseases are not qualified to represent the TMO. On a TTC I taught, he rejected a man who had an unsightly birthmark covering much of his face. He gave the TTC course office in FF hell for accepting a dwarf (Peggy?) to the course. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snap! Excellent Rory. Richard's response is also right on. This is movement compassion just as I remember it. Being fearful of, and rejecting people who are different is older than man. snipped for brevity Fascinating, Curtis; many thanks. Yes, I actually didn't even know how deeply I was enmired in a subtle miasmic fear of *everyone* until I died/awoke and noticed for the first time its *absence*! Go figure! *lol*
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I've heard similar stories myself, I think it's shocking, he's lucky to have anyone with that attitude. Would the ordinary man from the street learn cosmic knowledge from a dwarf with birthmarks all over his face ? Why not? I took it from a robot repeating the knowledge by rote :-) And from a boar ? Sure, a crashing boar even :-) Seriously, I'll take it wherever I can get it -- a rock, a drunk, a dog, an angel, a demon -- it's all the same, with different spins. And FWIW I am now far more an ordinary man on the street than I ever was before, though I have a good deal of specialness to dissolve yet, particularly in this medium :-)
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She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies.
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Peggy also went to MIU in the mid 70's. Really great, funny woman. Got to know her in a long car ride from MIU to Cleveland one time. Her parents built a wing in their house tiny size for Peggy and her brother. I'm glad to see that she's still alive. Many dwarfs die before the age of 40. When she opened her restaurant in Fairfield she served champagne. Bevan found out about it and actually called her to chastise her. She blew him of with a WTF, dude? Curtis, did you know her at MIU? --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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On Nov 9, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. Hmm... my memory has her restaurant as Buckboard Annies. That was a great restaurant. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peggy also went to MIU in the mid 70's. Really great, funny woman. Got to know her in a long car ride from MIU to Cleveland one time. Her parents built a wing in their house tiny size for Peggy and her brother. I'm glad to see that she's still alive. Many dwarfs die before the age of 40. When she opened her restaurant in Fairfield she served champagne. Bevan found out about it and actually called her to chastise her. She blew him of with a WTF, dude? Curtis, did you know her at MIU? Yeah, she was in my class. I remember seeing her with one of her hunky boyfriends and thinking, this chick has no limits. I am so glad to see her doing well. She used to enter the front of an LC classroom and do a front drop as if right on her face. It brought the house down. She used her smallness but never ran it as shtick. I think her parents really did it right with the house wing built to size. Would it disrupt the kumbaya vibe too much to say fuck Bevan? OK then let's just focus on how cool Peggy is an not focus on what a total dipshit Bevan is. Oh sorry that kinda harshed the buzz there, I didn't mean to distract from our open hearts flowing to an original spirit like Peggy just to flip the bird to a human buttplug. Wow, sorry, I didn't mean for that to leak out, what I mean is that the positive vibes of remembering Peggy shouldn't be shadowed in any way by my own limits of seeing Bevan as anything but taco turds packed into an ill fitting suit...ooops...I guess I'll just leave it at that. Peggy rules. (Bevan, not so much) --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lived in Fairfield in the 80's ... and even opened a cool restaurant on the town square, called Little Peggy's. maybe vedic times really is returning, and she is the re-incarnation of vishnu as dwarf? her current video is amazing curtisdeltablues wrote: Check out Peggy kicking ass and taking numbers in this promo video, she rocks! http://www.yopeggy.com/video/video-BusinessBroadband.htm Sal Sunshine wrote: She sure does--great video, Curtis. I'm surprised I never ran into her on some of the DC courses, there were so many dynamic, interesting people there. Difficult to understand how it got from there to here. (Sigh) Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
