[FairfieldLife] Sal is going to love this one!
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[FairfieldLife] Sal, are you a member?
Looks good to me http://www.hampshireskeptics.org/ The Hampshire Skeptics Society HSS Info About Us Contact Us Directory Events Calendar Guest Speakers Charter Local Woo-Woo Skeptics of the Round Table Winchester Skeptics Next SitP View on www.hampshireskepti... Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Sal do you know Hesta?
Britain: TM A call for an official enquiry into the aims and methods of the Transcendental Meditation movements was made at a public meeting in Wealdstone in May. Former TM teacher, Hesta Fischberg said Britain was the only country in which the movement was not the subject of government investigation. “Britain has always been proud of her heritage of freedom and justice,” she told the meeting, “the last thing we should allow on our soil is this horrible falsehood. It is about time someone started to do something. The Maharishi has got10,000of our people under his control and God knows where they are going to end up.” The meeting was organized to warn the public of the “cancer” of TM. Miss Fishberg said, “Some people do feel relaxed when they begin to meditate, but as they become more and more drawn in to the movement they become so ‘relaxed’ that they can be totally dominated¼. They say they have achieved peace, but whose world are they living in where there is peace?” “What is happening to those people is quite horrifying,” continued Miss Fischberg, “They deteriorate to a state in which they can no longer resist.” In the meantime, MentmoreTowers is open to the public, its walls hung with silk and velvet, its grounds about to be built over to provide more accommodation. They now sell silk dresses (made by meditating Chinese in Hong Kong) through the trade for between £230 and £390!
[FairfieldLife] Sal, What have you been eating?
England: Queen’s Swan Is Barbecued and Eaten By STEVEN ERLANGER Published: August 21, 2013 The charred carcass of one of Queen Elizabeth’s own swans was found on a riverbank near Windsor Castle after having been barbecued and eaten, according to the police and a charity called Swan Lifeline. The swan was one of about 200 that live on Baths Island and belong to the queen. Until 1998, under a law dating to the 12th century, killing or injuring a swan was classified as treason, and the crown retains ownership of all unmarked mute swans in areas along the River Thames. Wild swans are also protected under a 1981 act, and to injure or kill a swan — let alone eat one — is against the law. Wendy Hermon of Swan Lifeline said that “the whole breast had been removed, and it looked like it had been eaten for lunch.” There was “just a swan skeleton left,” she said. “It’s absolutely disgusting, I can’t imagine the kind of people that would do this.” She said the carcass, with its feathers still attached, was taken by her group to be cremated.
[FairfieldLife] Sal the unsanitary, nose-picking carrier of germs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I don't get it--why does *anybody* need sanitizer? Is this common procedure at the WH? If so, it's bizarre, and I've never heard of it before. Sal That's because you were brought up by swine in a pig farm off of highway 34, you filthy, unwashed Pagan. Sal, I want you to memorize the following chart. Then I want you to take a shower. That's the contraption beside the toilet (footbath in your lexicon), located in the bathroom (or Satan's Parlor, as it's called in your house): If you successfully memorize this chart, tomorrow I am going to teach you about another radical concept: soap!
[FairfieldLife] Sal, do.rflex, Bhairitu, and Vaj vs. Joe the Plumber
In the interests of not wasting posts on Stupid, I'm going to combine my responses to four related posts, all featuring Joe the Plumber. It's astounding the way Obama supporters have gone after him, when all he did was dare to ask Obama a question. I'd say it was even more astounding how wildly inaccurate the posts about him here have been, except that it's been clear for some time that this group of generally highly educated people and spiritual seekers don't think they really need to know what they're talking about where politics is concerned, especially when they're finding fault with the other side. - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Vaj wrote: Interestingly, today Joe Plumber became Jane and Joe Plumber. She's so damn creative. Supposedly this guy is actually fairly wealthy. Supposed by whom, you? Wrong, stupid. He made $40,000 in 2006. http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418/- 1/NEWS http://tinyurl.com/3qxbrz - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Turns out Joe the Plumber is not registered to vote. Yes, he is registered to vote, sorry to disappoint. Joe the Plumber admits he makes much less than $250k (on CBS) so will in fact pay less taxes under Obama than under McCain. Puerile and inane. belly laugh If you had paid any attention to what he said in the video, you'd know that his concern wasn't his taxes at his present salary, which is fairly low ($40K in 2006). It was that if he is eventually able to buy the plumbing business he now works for, he thinks Obama's tax plan would cost him more than McCain's. (It wouldn't unless it made over $250K in profits, which isn't likely; only 1.4 percent of small businesses do. And it would depend on how the company is set up. Obama hasn't really provided any details of how his plan would work.) - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Turns out that in his state every plumber does need a license whether they work for themselves or for a company. Wrong. He's limited in where he can work without a license, but there are areas in which he can do so. See: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418/-1/NEWS http://tinyurl.com/3qxbrz Sure if he takes home a large enough salary that his taxable income is over $250K he will pay more in taxes. I doubt that would happen. He needs to know that with a business there will be business deductions that will lower his company's taxes. snicker He knows that, Bhairitu. It's not, like, esoteric. He said explicitly to Obama that the *profits* of the company he wanted to buy might push his personal taxable income above $250K. That's unlikely with a small plumbing business, as you suggest. But he's obviously a fairly smart dude and knew what he was talking about. He just wanted to challenge Obama on the principles behind his tax plan and did a fairly good job of it, using his own situation as an example, even if it wasn't a particularly realistic one. Unfortunately, Obama was so interested in converting Joe personally and making an impressive YouTube video with nice sound bites for the media that he wasn't so clear about the most important point, that the vast majority of small businesses (98.6 percent) do *not* make enough profit to put their owners' income over $250K. And he didn't even succeed in converting Joe, who saw right through him. - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Vaj wrote: According to Crooks and Liars, he was a plant and has connections to Keating: Joe the Plumber? More like Joe the Keating Family Operative Figures. And because it figures, therefore you believe it, right? Turns out it's not true, sorry. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/16/133831/42/1001/632600 http://tinyurl.com/4ownld
[FairfieldLife] Sal Sunshine: full of sh*t
Sal, I'm still waiting for you to list all of Barack's accomplishments so we can examine them. Well?
[FairfieldLife] Sal Sunshine and yifuxero posting rights restored
Bhairtu, how about a final post count for the week?
[FairfieldLife] Sal, I find your position inconsistent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they were having sex with underage women, they should have been sucking in the subtle energy of a state prison. Agreed, Sal (and I wrote a further comment on this in an earlier post today). But I would remind you that the charges you cite against Muktananda are heresay and, although numerous, were never either brought up in a court of law or proven in a court of law. All we have is the word of the women who told us AFTER the fact of what they said happened. Muktananda neve had the chance to defend himself. I would remind you that this is the same degree of proof that there was against the allegations against Bill Clinton: the word of the women he allegedly raped or sexually assaulted or took advantage of (took advantage of: a person in a high position having sexual affairs with an underling or person of lesser power). And, like Muktananda, there were numerous allegations against Bill Clinton. And, like Muktananda, several of the charges were that the victims were underlings or people in less powerful positions than the perpetrator. However, unlike Muktananda, Bill Clinton got the chance to defend himself against the allegations against him. And, unlike Muktananda, Bill Clinton WAS found to be responsible for at least one of the incidents (Monica Lewinsky) and, indeed, admitted as much (only because of irrefutable proof -- the blue dress; he originally denied it) and is was disbarred from the State Bar of Arkansas (not for the sex but for the lying about it), paid a heft fine to the court, if I remember correctly, and may have been found guilty of perjury (I can't remember exactly). So, Sal, you were quick to defend Clinton with MORE evidence against him and an admission of guilty but equally quick to denounce Muktananda with less evidence against him, no admission of guilt and without Muktananda ever having the chance to defend himself. Your positions seem inconsistent to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sal, I find your position inconsistent
That's why I said if Shemp--if it had been proven, i.e. in court--not based on here-say. That's inconsistent? Re: your comments about Clinton I have no answer, didn't we just go over this topic? You seem to be simply obsessed with the man. Give it up, Shemp, he's been out of office 6 *years.* Sal On May 25, 2006, at 2:40 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: But I would remind you that the charges you cite against Muktananda are here-say and, although numerous, were never either brought up in a court of law or proven in a court of law. All we have is the word of the women who told us AFTER the fact of what they said happened. Muktananda neve had the chance to defend himself.
[FairfieldLife] Sal
Can't remember whether or not you actually reported me for anything, but you (and Mark) kept me off a course (undoubtedly doing me a favor, altho I wasn't too happy at the time). Bygones, of course, and none of that would have happened had it not been encouraged by whatever PTB were encouraging it...which is why none of us are part of it anymore. Sal, I am sincerely sorry for the pain that must have cost you. The fact that it may have saved you a huge mind F was no consolation for you back then. I went through a similar thing myself when my sidhaland ran out of money to send me to TTC after 3 years labor, but made it look like I was rejected. It was only explained to me years later by one of the directors. It broke my heart in many pieces, so I think I know how you might have felt. I am sure the reason we participated in hurting your feelings was because you showed some version of not being controlled by the movement policies. That was the most important criteria that I remember. Of course now I realize that this was a sign of a person being a more developed human being outside of their movement identity. In running the DC center I was tyrannized by all of the National organization, who all lived close by, and who could cut your out of your future with a pen stroke. I was more than willing to toe the line. I had been elected to the position by 300 TM teachers in the area whose eyes were on me with various agendas. It was a razor's edge to walk that line. If a person was not following the TM rules, I would have tried to handle it myself rather than report it. Usually we would get a few teachers together and talk with the person from our high horses of virtue. I can't remember ever reporting anyone to National, but I certainly wouldn't put it past me then. I wanted to do the right thing in the worst possible way. We had some written instructions for holding the TTC and Sidha application meetings. I can't remember the details. Thanks for telling me. Please accept my apology. Curtis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't remember whether or not you actually reported me for anything, but you (and Mark) kept me off a course (undoubtedly doing me a favor, altho I wasn't too happy at the time). Bygones, of course, and none of that would have happened had it not been encouraged by whatever PTB were encouraging it...which is why none of us are part of it anymore. And it wasn't just you guys...I remember I actually got reported for something by someone who I thought was a friend, that I head helped to sponsor! So much for idealism. I still wonder though...was all of that line-toeing/reporting etc. official TMO policy, and, if so, did they actually issue directives or put it in writing? Sal On May 11, 2006, at 7:59 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Did you know me at the TM center in DC? Did I ever report you for wearing jeans? I may be confusing your previous posts with someone else. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sal
No problem at all, Curtis, and thank you for the apology. It was probably somewhat tacky of me to bring it up at all, after all this time. Seems like almost another lifetime. I do give TM and the TMO credit for a lot of things, though, and still would never have traded my time there. I was never in the hierarchy, I was just your basic nobody, but that was fine with me as the people I met were a far nicer bunch than any I had met before. Except for my failed attempt at TTC, I was very happy to be just another meditator. I probably still would be had things not gotten so crazy. DC was great, though, and I still keep up and have remained friends with with a number of people I met there. And it's always great to hear about people I knew there, like yourself, who have gone on and made really positive changes in their lives, especially when it involves something creative. Bet if we all pooled our stories we could come up with a heck of a book. Sal On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Sal, I am sincerely sorry for the pain that must have cost you. The fact that it may have saved you a huge mind F was no consolation for you back then. I went through a similar thing myself when my sidhaland ran out of money to send me to TTC after 3 years labor, but made it look like I was rejected. It was only explained to me years later by one of the directors. It broke my heart in many pieces, so I think I know how you might have felt. I am sure the reason we participated in hurting your feelings was because you showed some version of not being controlled by the movement policies. That was the most important criteria that I remember. Of course now I realize that this was a sign of a person being a more developed human being outside of their movement identity. In running the DC center I was tyrannized by all of the National organization, who all lived close by, and who could cut your out of your future with a pen stroke. I was more than willing to toe the line. I had been elected to the position by 300 TM teachers in the area whose eyes were on me with various agendas. It was a razor's edge to walk that line. If a person was not following the TM rules, I would have tried to handle it myself rather than report it. Usually we would get a few teachers together and talk with the person from our high horses of virtue. I can't remember ever reporting anyone to National, but I certainly wouldn't put it past me then. I wanted to do the right thing in the worst possible way. We had some written instructions for holding the TTC and Sidha application meetings. I can't remember the details. Thanks for telling me. Please accept my apology.
