[FairfieldLife] >>> The TRUTH About Eating Organic…
https://biotrust.com/blog/truth-eating-organic/?SID=contentfb1184-170729=content1184_source=contentfb1184-170729_medium=email=y The benefits of eating organic—particularly produce—are that produce grown under organic standards have been shown to provide significantly greater amounts of powerful compounds called phytochemicals (i.e., plant chemicals)—which have potent fat-fighting, age-defying, antioxidant properties—while reducing exposure to potentially harmful pesticide residues, heavy metals, and antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth about the Rajas
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : the most transparent NGO in the whole world, hosting its communication on the web and open to anyone to watch Can you tell us how much they make from selling highly expensive and obviously totally ineffective prayers? We know the US national yagya fund rakes in $5,000,000 a year but what about the personal ones or special projects? And how much worldwide? I look forward to a comprehensive answer. Or did you mean something different by the term transparent? http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/gfc2-2015.html http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/gfc2-2015.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
Bankers aren't as invested in war as he thinks. They make MORE money during peacetime, these days. Other that that, he's pretty much spot-on, I suspect. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Ken O'Keefe Dares To Say What Others Do Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Ken O'Keefe Dares To Say What Others Do Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Ken O'Keefe, lays it out perfectly on dinosaur mainstream media, calling out the fraud. Must see, must share! Brilliant! View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
He also seems to think that Zionism is the root of all evil. I assume that goes back to his paranoia about bankers. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Ken O'Keefe Dares To Say What Others Do Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Ken O'Keefe Dares To Say What Others Do Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Ken O'Keefe, lays it out perfectly on dinosaur mainstream media, calling out the fraud. Must see, must share! Brilliant! View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZN_YDE-TU Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
Bankers make plenty of money in wartime - you better believe it! You think arms deals, both those that are done by governments and those done in the shadows are carried out by guys in dark clothes carrying around suitcases full of money? The bankers are all too eager to shuttle money back and forth between all sorts of governments and clients - they make tons of dough in and from war. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
On 10/8/2014 12:42 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? /Use your head - if the Middle East was ruled by the Israelis there would be peace in the entire region. If Jews controlled the banks and the U.S. Government, we wouldn't have trillions of dollars in national debt.//Fuck you Jew-hating bastards a trillion times. Go figure./ /http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock// To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
One angry self-righteous dude! College professor per chance?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
On 10/8/2014 1:18 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bankers make plenty of money in wartime - you better believe it! /Well, let's hope the U.S. banks are making money. // // //The whole idea is to use the ISIL as an excuse to send in more U.S. troops, through the backdoor, to actively do what we wanted to do more than ten years ago - to remove the dictators like Hussein and the Assad government and the Kings of Saudi - to stabilize the entire Middle East so we can get the oil and send it to Europe and the Ukraine. The U.S. is almost 100% energy independent. // // //Following your logic, you are supporting the terrorists in the Middle East every time you cash a paycheck at a bank, or start up your car in the morning - just like you support the drug cartels every time you light up a joint.Go figure./ You think arms deals, both those that are done by governments and those done in the shadows are carried out by guys in dark clothes carrying around suitcases full of money? The bankers are all too eager to shuttle money back and forth between all sorts of governments and clients - they make tons of dough in and from war. *From:* Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:42 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
This short clip from one of my favorite films The International explains it all: http://youtu.be/UiN1xHaNDJ0 On 10/08/2014 11:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bankers make plenty of money in wartime - you better believe it! You think arms deals, both those that are done by governments and those done in the shadows are carried out by guys in dark clothes carrying around suitcases full of money? The bankers are all too eager to shuttle money back and forth between all sorts of governments and clients - they make tons of dough in and from war. *From:* Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:42 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
On 10/8/2014 3:20 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: This short clip from one of my favorite films The International explains it all: /Wait! I thought Michael Moore made the film that explains it all. Go figure./ http://youtu.be/UiN1xHaNDJ0 On 10/08/2014 11:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bankers make plenty of money in wartime - you better believe it! You think arms deals, both those that are done by governments and those done in the shadows are carried out by guys in dark clothes carrying around suitcases full of money? The bankers are all too eager to shuttle money back and forth between all sorts of governments and clients - they make tons of dough in and from war. *From:* Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:42 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM Paranoia about banksters -- is sanity. Are you actually not seeing the true rulers of the world? To diss this guy's possible psychological twist in his panties about Zionism while the War Mongers of the world have their way with the masses, is to serve them, their goals and their EVIL. I accuse you of being a supporter of evil. Fuck you for not being informed, and if informed, fuck you for mindfully being evil. The issue isn't this guy - - it's your turning of a blind eye towards the psychopaths.this foul dynamic is the cause of all the world's misery and YOU'RE JUST TRUCKING ALONG LIKE YOU AIN'T DOING SHIT. This is shit right here that you've done. You made the world a little shittier by pretending a guy is more important than MILLIONS WHO ARE ABOUT TO DIE. Fuck you time ten.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TRUTH ABOUT LONG HAIR
Rick Archer is humoristic, who would have guessed :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : THE TRUTH ABOUT LONG HAIR April 18, 2014 - This information about hair has been hidden from the public since the Vietnam http://m.disclose.tv/url/Tm9DaGFuY2VBbm9ueW1vdXNodHRwOi8vbWFwcy5nb29nbGUuY29tL21hcHM_bGw9MjEuMDMzMzMzMzMzMywxMDUuODUmc3BuPTEwLjAsMTAuMCZxPTIxLjAzMzMzMzMzMzMsMTA1Ljg1IChWaWV0bmFtKSZ0PWg. War. Our culture leads people to believe that hair style is a matter of personal preference, that hair style is a matter of fashion and/or convenience, and that how people wear their hair is simply a cosmetic issue. Back in theVietnam http://m.disclose.tv/url/Tm9DaGFuY2VBbm9ueW1vdXNodHRwOi8vbWFwcy5nb29nbGUuY29tL21hcHM_bGw9MjEuMDMzMzMzMzMzMywxMDUuODUmc3BuPTEwLjAsMTAuMCZxPTIxLjAzMzMzMzMzMzMsMTA1Ljg1IChWaWV0bmFtKSZ0PWg. war, however, an entirely different picture emerged, one that has been carefully covered up and hidden from public view. In the early nineties, Sally [name changed to protect privacy] was married to a licensed psychologist who worked at a VA medical hospital. He worked with combat veterans with PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder. Most of them had served in Vietnam. Sally said, “I remember clearly an evening when my husband came back to our apartment on Doctor’s Circle carrying a thick official looking folder in his hands. Inside were hundreds of pages of certain studies commissioned by the government. He was in shock from the contents. What he read in those documents completely changed his life. From that moment on my conservative, middle-of-the-road husband grew his hair and beard and never cut them again. What is more, the VA Medical Center let him do it, and other very conservative men in the staff followed his example. As I read the documents, I learned why. It seems that during the Vietnam http://m.disclose.tv/url/Tm9DaGFuY2VBbm9ueW1vdXNodHRwOi8vbWFwcy5nb29nbGUuY29tL21hcHM_bGw9MjEuMDMzMzMzMzMzMywxMDUuODUmc3BuPTEwLjAsMTAuMCZxPTIxLjAzMzMzMzMzMzMsMTA1Ljg1IChWaWV0bmFtKSZ0PWg. War, special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival. With the usual enticements, the well-proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these Indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field. Serious causalities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found. When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied consistently that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer ‘sense’ the enemy, they could no longer access a ‘sixth sense,’ their ‘intuition’ no longer was reliable, they couldn’t ‘read’ subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information. So the testing institute recruited more Indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests. They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests. Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores. Here is a Typical Test: The recruit is sleeping out in the woods. An armed ‘enemy’ approaches the sleeping man. The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible. In another version of this test, the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his ‘sixth sense’ and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and ‘kills’ him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him. This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistently failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed. So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long. The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with
[FairfieldLife] Pravda (Truth) on WW III
http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/25-03-2011/117328-third_world_war-0/ http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/25-03-2011/117328-third_world_war-0/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pravda (Truth) on WW III
The Jews Who Fought for Hitler: https://news.yahoo.com/jews-fought-hitler-190500625--politics.html On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/25-03-2011/117328-third_world_war-0/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always good advice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real culprit?! PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he says. On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always good advice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
Beliefs in limitations don't arise, unless the limitation is evident within oneself. Similarly, a belief in one's unlimited ability doesn't arise, unless the ability within oneself is present - latent, perhaps, but present. So, although we all enjoy 'owning' our beliefs, even arguing for them, and thinking of them as choices we each make, they are really much more of a rationalized expression, of the state of our physiology. However, as humans, we have this unique ability to set a conflict within ourselves, to believe in something, that in terms of everyday life, we cannot support. It is simply not possible - Not impossible, in terms of future achievement, but in terms of simply thinking it so, it is not possible for a belief to instantaneously override the physiology. That means, if, as this guy says, we believe in giving unconditional love, but we do not have the capacity, all we can offer is inner conflict, and why would you want to pass that on? Once the ability to offer unconditional love is there, it doesn't matter what our belief is, at all - we can only spread, and share it. I find that humans are not as smart as we *think* we are - life, itself, serves as much better mirror, and teacher. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real culprit?! PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he says. On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always good advice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
Doc, I agree that all this stuff resides in the physiology and arises from there. But then I remember reading about saints who were in bliss but also great physical pain. Any thoughts about that? On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:02 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Beliefs in limitations don't arise, unless the limitation is evident within oneself. Similarly, a belief in one's unlimited ability doesn't arise, unless the ability within oneself is present - latent, perhaps, but present. So, although we all enjoy 'owning' our beliefs, even arguing for them, and thinking of them as choices we each make, they are really much more of a rationalized expression, of the state of our physiology. However, as humans, we have this unique ability to set a conflict within ourselves, to believe in something, that in terms of everyday life, we cannot support. It is simply not possible - Not impossible, in terms of future achievement, but in terms of simply thinking it so, it is not possible for a belief to instantaneously override the physiology. That means, if, as this guy says, we believe in giving unconditional love, but we do not have the capacity, all we can offer is inner conflict, and why would you want to pass that on? Once the ability to offer unconditional love is there, it doesn't matter what our belief is, at all - we can only spread, and share it. I find that humans are not as smart as we *think* we are - life, itself, serves as much better mirror, and teacher. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real culprit?! PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he says. On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always good advice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
As it relates to the earlier discussion about radiating unconditional love, such a saint would be fully aware of both the bliss, and the great physical pain, and the source of each. Maybe it is then like stubbing your toe, while your child is running towards you, for a hug. The hug still happens, fully and deeply, while you think, ouch, that toe hurts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I agree that all this stuff resides in the physiology and arises from there. But then I remember reading about saints who were in bliss but also great physical pain. Any thoughts about that? On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:02 PM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Beliefs in limitations don't arise, unless the limitation is evident within oneself. Similarly, a belief in one's unlimited ability doesn't arise, unless the ability within oneself is present - latent, perhaps, but present. So, although we all enjoy 'owning' our beliefs, even arguing for them, and thinking of them as choices we each make, they are really much more of a rationalized expression, of the state of our physiology. However, as humans, we have this unique ability to set a conflict within ourselves, to believe in something, that in terms of everyday life, we cannot support. It is simply not possible - Not impossible, in terms of future achievement, but in terms of simply thinking it so, it is not possible for a belief to instantaneously override the physiology. That means, if, as this guy says, we believe in giving unconditional love, but we do not have the capacity, all we can offer is inner conflict, and why would you want to pass that on? Once the ability to offer unconditional love is there, it doesn't matter what our belief is, at all - we can only spread, and share it. I find that humans are not as smart as we *think* we are - life, itself, serves as much better mirror, and teacher. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real culprit?! PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he says. On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always good advice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally screwed up! On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
On 2/23/2014 3:53 PM, Share Long wrote: what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. Man is the measure of all things. - Protagoras
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard for others, indeed for all life. I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true. On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, turquoiseb@... turquoiseb@... wrote: A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
[FairfieldLife] The Truth
A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your puny self.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Truth, Justice, and the American Way
[FairfieldLife] sweet truth a fundamental misunderstanding
This verse is from the Manu Smriti (4.138): Original translation: satyaM brUyAt priyaM brUyAt speak the truth, speak sweetly na brUyAt satyam apriyam | don't speak truth that is unpleasant priyaM ca nAnRRitaM brUyAt don't speak untruth that is pleasant eSha dharmaH sanAtanaH || this is the eternal law the Literal translation is: truth speak, lovingly speak don't speak truth unloving lovingly untruth don't speak this is law eternal My enhanced translation satyam bruyat, priyam bruyat speak the truth, speak sweetly na bruyat satyam apriyam | don't speak truth in an unloving way priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak untruth in a pleasant way esha dharmah sanatanah || this is the eternal law I'm certain that the shloka is talking about how to speak the truth not the quality of the truth itself. That is, it's not the truth that is to be sweet or not, truth is truth.. but it is HOW you say it that is the rule. the key word you in the first three lines is priyam this is derived from the word prem which means love, so I feel it is appropriate to translate priyam as lovingly, although sweetly, pleasantly are not far off. But I have to emphasize that this shloka doesn't not say that one should, under any circumstances, not tell the truth, but it is guiding one to say the truth in a pleasant way. The truth must be told (satyam eva jayate truth alone triumphs) ca means and (used very differently in Sanskrit than English / not a connective word) ritam is another word for truth nan negation no or not bruyat means speak or say priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak a pleasant untruth The word ca echoes the repetitive logic from earlier line (meaning don't) nanritam means untrurth priyam is used here to describe a way of speaking, not nature of the truth. Therefore it should mean lovingly The reason I think this is a fundamental issue is that people may feel that you should never tell someone something they don't want to hear. But that is not what it says. You can tell your friend that he didn't win the election or you can rub his nose in it and call him a loser. The fact (or truth) is the same but the way you say it is different. If you only tell people what they want to hear, you create bubble mentality. People will live in a bubble they create because they only want to hear what they want to hear. That is NOT speaking the sweet truth as defined in the Manu Smriti.
Re: [FairfieldLife] sweet truth a fundamental misunderstanding
Thanks Paul, this is good info. I've heard third hand that someone challenged Maharishi saying that the truth is not always sweet. And Maharishi reportedly replied: if it's not sweet, it's not true. On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:41 AM, Paul Simdars psimd...@lisco.com wrote: This verse is from the Manu Smriti (4.138): Original translation: satyaM brUyAt priyaM brUyAt speak the truth, speak sweetly na brUyAt satyam apriyam | don't speak truth that is unpleasant priyaM ca nAnRRitaM brUyAt don't speak untruth that is pleasant eSha dharmaH sanAtanaH || this is the eternal law the Literal translation is: truth speak, lovingly speak don't speak truth unloving lovingly untruth don't speak this is law eternal My enhanced translation satyam bruyat, priyam bruyat speak the truth, speak sweetly na bruyat satyam apriyam | don't speak truth in an unloving way priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak untruth in a pleasant way esha dharmah sanatanah || this is the eternal law I'm certain that the shloka is talking about how to speak the truth not the quality of the truth itself. That is, it's not the truth that is to be sweet or not, truth is truth.. but it is HOW you say it that is the rule. the key word you in the first three lines is priyam this is derived from the word prem which means love, so I feel it is appropriate to translate priyam as lovingly, although sweetly, pleasantly are not far off. But I have to emphasize that this shloka doesn't not say that one should, under any circumstances, not tell the truth, but it is guiding one to say the truth in a pleasant way. The truth must be told (satyam eva jayate truth alone triumphs) ca means and (used very differently in Sanskrit than English / not a connective word) ritam is another word for truth nan negation no or not bruyat means speak or say priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak a pleasant untruth The word ca echoes the repetitive logic from earlier line (meaning don't) nanritam means untrurth priyam is used here to describe a way of speaking, not nature of the truth. Therefore it should mean lovingly The reason I think this is a fundamental issue is that people may feel that you should never tell someone something they don't want to hear. But that is not what it says. You can tell your friend that he didn't win the election or you can rub his nose in it and call him a loser. The fact (or truth) is the same but the way you say it is different. If you only tell people what they want to hear, you create bubble mentality. People will live in a bubble they create because they only want to hear what they want to hear. That is NOT speaking the sweet truth as defined in the Manu Smriti.
Re: [FairfieldLife] sweet truth a fundamental misunderstanding
Thanks for posting this, Paul - it came at just the right time. Very perceptive interpretation. This is just what I've been looking for. Please keep up the good work! On 12/4/2013 11:40 AM, Paul Simdars wrote: This verse is from the Manu Smriti (4.138): Original translation: satyaM brUyAt priyaM brUyAt speak the truth, speak sweetly na brUyAt satyam apriyam | don't speak truth that is unpleasant priyaM ca nAnRRitaM brUyAt don't speak untruth that is pleasant eSha dharmaH sanAtanaH || this is the eternal law the Literal translation is: truth speak, lovingly speak don't speak truth unloving lovingly untruth don't speak this is law eternal My enhanced translation satyam bruyat, priyam bruyat speak the truth, speak sweetly na bruyat satyam apriyam | don't speak truth in an unloving way priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak untruth in a pleasant way esha dharmah sanatanah || this is the eternal law I'm certain that the shloka is talking about how to speak the truth not the quality of the truth itself. That is, it's not the truth that is to be sweet or not, truth is truth.. but it is HOW you say it that is the rule. the key word you in the first three lines is priyam this is derived from the word prem which means love, so I feel it is appropriate to translate priyam as lovingly, although sweetly, pleasantly are not far off. But I have to emphasize that this shloka doesn't not say that one should, under any circumstances, not tell the truth, but it is guiding one to say the truth in a pleasant way. The truth must be told (satyam eva jayate truth alone triumphs) ca means and (used very differently in Sanskrit than English / not a connective word) ritam is another word for truth nan negation no or not bruyat means speak or say priyam ca nanritam bruyat don't speak a pleasant untruth The word ca echoes the repetitive logic from earlier line (meaning don't) nanritam means untrurth priyam is used here to describe a way of speaking, not nature of the truth. Therefore it should mean lovingly The reason I think this is a fundamental issue is that people may feel that you should never tell someone something they don't want to hear. But that is not what it says. You can tell your friend that he didn't win the election or you can rub his nose in it and call him a loser. The fact (or truth) is the same but the way you say it is different. If you only tell people what they want to hear, you create bubble mentality. People will live in a bubble they create because they only want to hear what they want to hear. That is NOT speaking the sweet truth as defined in the Manu Smriti.
[FairfieldLife] The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth
Lawson's passing comment about context earlier got me thinking about truth. Or Truth, if you prefer. Or, if you're even stronger in your preferences, The Truth. In my travels along the somewhat twisty spiritual path, I have noticed that a LOT of people are fond of this word truth. They speak of seeking it, of valuing it above all else, of its importance to those on a spiritual path. Some speak of knowing it, and speak as if they reveal it in every word. And yet, many of these *same* people seem to have No Problem holding two completely contradictory truths in their heads at the same time, and considering *each* of them Truth. Maharishi was both a householder and a monk. Depending on context. Both of them are truth, seen from that context. Depending on how much you consider Maharishi enlightened -- and we've all been told that the enlightened cannot *help* but speak the truth -- both could be seen as Truth from that context. It makes me wonder whether what all these seekers are seeking as truth, and often speaking about as if it were The Truth is in reality relative truth. Things are true or the truth only in context, as *they* see them -- or claim to see them -- in that moment. Truth *changes*, depending on context. How is that so different from the way those of us who do not even believe in the *concept* of truth live our lives?
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Just as a followup, Susan, there are experiences I've had that are MUCH weirder than any I ever had while in Rama's presence, and thus of another order entirely. There is one experience that happened when I was thousands of miles away from him, had nothing to do with him, but was pretty amazing. Why it's fascinating to me is that I was with someone else who saw exactly the same thing I did, and who to this day describes it exactly as I do. There was no setup for having this experience, no expectation of having it, nada. It just happened. So the two of us (my best friend and I) have only each other to rely on when it comes to describing it. Most of the time we don't, because it's much more unbelievable in a way than having seen deities. The only thing we know is THAT we saw it. How we saw it, or whether it really existed and could have been photographed or whether we were seeing into some alternate reality...that stuff we can't really talk about, because neither of us has any clue as to the how or actual what involved. I'll refrain from going into more detail at this point, because it would just become fodder for those who live to dump on me already. I suspect you understand. :-) I do understand. And I hope to hear the story some day. Thank for your replies. I am at work and cannot give them the time and consideration they deserve. Thanks again - your experiences get to the crux of the whole issue, imo Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) This is your opportunity ( and the opportunity equally afforded to lurkers ) to determine whether Barry is bullsitting you ( some of us are not afraid of words, and thus less prone to asteriskize them :-) or telling you the absolute truth, as he experienced it and remembers it. I do not tell this story often, or lightly, for what will become apparent reasons. Tell someone you had a vision of Jzus, or Krishna, or even a ghost or a UFO, and most people will cut you some slack. Tell them you saw certain other things, not so much. The story ( which will be a little long, because I'm going to do my best with the telling of it ) dates from a period of time in which I was studying with Rama, but was not with him. We were living in New York at the time, and many of us were missing the Southwest Big Time. Perceiving this, he had scheduled a big group Road Trip. We would fly into Phoenix and then spend a week and a half traveling to various power places in that area, just to meditate and have adventures there. My cuppa tea. So my girlfriend ( who also studied with Rama at that time ) and I made arrangements to go on this trip. We booked vacation time away from work, the full tamale. And then Rama got a burr up his butt about something ( I honestly don't remember what ) and cancelled the trip. He gave all of us students a big Fuck you! for what we'd done or hadn't done. Drama queen...what can I say? :-) My girlfriend and I looked at each other and replied mentally with a big, New York No, fuck you! and decided to go anyway. So we did. We flew into Phoenix and I rented a big, campable 4WD vehicle, and we set off to see places like the Grand Canyon, Chaco Canyon, Canyon de Chelly, Bandelier, and other just scorchin' power places in that area. We hiked and medi- tated there and then moved on to the next place. The weird story comes from one of those moving on's. We'd spent the day -- the Summer Solstice if I remember correctly -- hiking and meditating and grooving on Monument Valley. Even if you've never been there, you have seen the place in hundreds of movies. It's one of the most spectacular places on earth, and IMO one of its most powerful. We watched the sun set while watching Navajo dancers and musicians play in the parking lot of the National Park, and it was WAY magical, up there in my Top Ten Sunsets Ever. Then we hopped into the car and drove down to the only motel in the area, expecting to find a room there, as I always had in the past. Bad idea. Motel booked. So we could either backtrack into the dreary motel town 30 miles in the opposite direction that we were heading, or we could just say What the fuck and drive North. We drove North. That drive followed maps that...ahem...failed to convey the steepness and looking-over-the-edge-of-a-high-precipice- seeing-your-death-at-every-turn-of-the-gravel-road of the route I chose. Hey...mea culpa. I'm the one who hadn't had the good sense to pre-book a motel room. While in Road Trip Mind, I am not always the most sentient of beings. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Just as a followup, Susan, there are experiences I've had that are MUCH weirder than any I ever had while in Rama's presence, and thus of another order entirely. There is one experience that happened when I was thousands of miles away from him, had nothing to do with him, but was pretty amazing. Why it's fascinating to me is that I was with someone else who saw exactly the same thing I did, and who to this day describes it exactly as I do. There was no setup for having this experience, no expectation of having it, nada. It just happened. So the two of us (my best friend and I) have only each other to rely on when it comes to describing it. Most of the time we don't, because it's much more unbelievable in a way than having seen deities. The only thing we know is THAT we saw it. How we saw it, or whether it really existed and could have been photographed or whether we were seeing into some alternate reality...that stuff we can't really talk about, because neither of us has any clue as to the how or actual what involved. I'll refrain from going into more detail at this point, because it would just become fodder for those who live to dump on me already. I suspect you understand. :-) I do understand. And I hope to hear the story some day. Thank for your replies. I am at work and cannot give them the time and consideration they deserve. Thanks again - your experiences get to the crux of the whole issue, imo Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) This is your opportunity ( and the opportunity equally afforded to lurkers ) to determine whether Barry is bullsitting you ( some of us are not afraid of words, and thus less prone to asteriskize them :-) or telling you the absolute truth, as he experienced it and remembers it. I do not tell this story often, or lightly, for what will become apparent reasons. Tell someone you had a vision of Jzus, or Krishna, or even a ghost or a UFO, and most people will cut you some slack. Tell them you saw certain other things, not so much. The story ( which will be a little long, because I'm going to do my best with the telling of it ) dates from a period of time in which I was studying with Rama, but was not with him. We were living in New York at the time, and many of us were missing the Southwest Big Time. Perceiving this, he had scheduled a big group Road Trip. We would fly into Phoenix and then spend a week and a half traveling to various power places in that area, just to meditate and have adventures there. My cuppa tea. So my girlfriend ( who also studied with Rama at that time ) and I made arrangements to go on this trip. We booked vacation time away from work, the full tamale. And then Rama got a burr up his butt about something ( I honestly don't remember what ) and cancelled the trip. He gave all of us students a big Fuck you! for what we'd done or hadn't done. Drama queen...what can I say? :-) My girlfriend and I looked at each other and replied mentally with a big, New York No, fuck you! and decided to go anyway. So we did. We flew into Phoenix and I rented a big, campable 4WD vehicle, and we set off to see places like the Grand Canyon, Chaco Canyon, Canyon de Chelly, Bandelier, and other just scorchin' power places in that area. We hiked and medi- tated there and then moved on to the next place. The weird story comes from one of those moving on's. We'd spent the day -- the Summer Solstice if I remember correctly -- hiking and meditating and grooving on Monument Valley. Even if you've never been there, you have seen the place in hundreds of movies. It's one of the most spectacular places on earth, and IMO one of its most powerful. We watched the sun set while watching Navajo dancers and musicians play in the parking lot of the National Park, and it was WAY magical, up there in my Top Ten Sunsets Ever. Then we hopped into the car and drove down to the only motel in the area, expecting to find a room there, as I always had in the past. Bad idea. Motel booked. So we could either backtrack into the dreary motel town 30 miles in the opposite direction that we were heading, or we could just say What the fuck and drive North. We drove North. That drive followed maps that...ahem...failed to convey the steepness and looking-over-the-edge-of-a-high-precipice- seeing-your-death-at-every-turn-of-the-gravel-road of the route I chose. Hey...mea culpa. I'm the one who hadn't had the good sense to pre-book a motel room. While in Road Trip Mind, I am not always the most sentient of beings. :-) But we finally made it up to the top of the winding canyon pass and onto a two-lane blacktop that couldn't have been more straight if God had done the measuring. The
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
Why not try to contact the dragon now? You have a clear recollection of it. I'll bet you can bring the dragon back if you want to. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Just as a followup, Susan, there are experiences I've had that are MUCH weirder than any I ever had while in Rama's presence, and thus of another order entirely. There is one experience that happened when I was thousands of miles away from him, had nothing to do with him, but was pretty amazing. Why it's fascinating to me is that I was with someone else who saw exactly the same thing I did, and who to this day describes it exactly as I do. There was no setup for having this experience, no expectation of having it, nada. It just happened. So the two of us (my best friend and I) have only each other to rely on when it comes to describing it. Most of the time we don't, because it's much more unbelievable in a way than having seen deities. The only thing we know is THAT we saw it. How we saw it, or whether it really existed and could have been photographed or whether we were seeing into some alternate reality...that stuff we can't really talk about, because neither of us has any clue as to the how or actual what involved. I'll refrain from going into more detail at this point, because it would just become fodder for those who live to dump on me already. I suspect you understand. :-) I do understand. And I hope to hear the story some day. Thank for your replies. I am at work and cannot give them the time and consideration they deserve. Thanks again - your experiences get to the crux of the whole issue, imo Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) This is your opportunity ( and the opportunity equally afforded to lurkers ) to determine whether Barry is bullsitting you ( some of us are not afraid of words, and thus less prone to asteriskize them :-) or telling you the absolute truth, as he experienced it and remembers it. I do not tell this story often, or lightly, for what will become apparent reasons. Tell someone you had a vision of Jzus, or Krishna, or even a ghost or a UFO, and most people will cut you some slack. Tell them you saw certain other things, not so much. The story ( which will be a little long, because I'm going to do my best with the telling of it ) dates from a period of time in which I was studying with Rama, but was not with him. We were living in New York at the time, and many of us were missing the Southwest Big Time. Perceiving this, he had scheduled a big group Road Trip. We would fly into Phoenix and then spend a week and a half traveling to various power places in that area, just to meditate and have adventures there. My cuppa tea. So my girlfriend ( who also studied with Rama at that time ) and I made arrangements to go on this trip. We booked vacation time away from work, the full tamale. And then Rama got a burr up his butt about something ( I honestly don't remember what ) and cancelled the trip. He gave all of us students a big Fuck you! for what we'd done or hadn't done. Drama queen...what can I say? :-) My girlfriend and I looked at each other and replied mentally with a big, New York No, fuck you! and decided to go anyway. So we did. We flew into Phoenix and I rented a big, campable 4WD vehicle, and we set off to see places like the Grand Canyon, Chaco Canyon, Canyon de Chelly, Bandelier, and other just scorchin' power places in that area. We hiked and medi- tated there and then moved on to the next place. The weird story comes from one of those moving on's. We'd spent the day -- the Summer Solstice if I remember correctly -- hiking and meditating and grooving on Monument Valley. Even if you've never been there, you have seen the place in hundreds of movies. It's one of the most spectacular places on earth, and IMO one of its most powerful. We watched the sun set while watching Navajo dancers and musicians play in the parking lot of the National Park, and it was WAY magical, up there in my Top Ten Sunsets Ever. Then we hopped into the car and drove down to the only motel in the area, expecting to find a room there, as I always had in the past. Bad idea. Motel booked. So we could either backtrack into the dreary motel town 30 miles in the opposite direction that we were heading, or we could just say What the fuck and drive North. We drove North. That drive followed maps that...ahem...failed to convey the steepness and looking-over-the-edge-of-a-high-precipice- seeing-your-death-at-every-turn-of-the-gravel-road of the route I chose. Hey...mea culpa. I'm the one who
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) No, they didn't. See, folks, this is BS as Frankfurt defined it in that quote I posted. Barry doesn't even *care* what the facts are.
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
When I first saw his comment, I thought he meant his own panic attacks. :-) Seriously, I think most people have BW's number when he wants to troll - its no big deal. Those that don't, get it soon enough. In this case he is feeling vulnerable and small. Why not just let him? I understand your attempt to shine a light on this behavior but that is a rational approach to irrational behavior. How can you make progress that way? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) No, they didn't. See, folks, this is BS as Frankfurt defined it in that quote I posted. Barry doesn't even *care* what the facts are.
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
I want to clarify that when I use the term irrational below, it is not synonymous with crazy. I am not out to get anybody. It simply means a behavior not motivated by reason, but instead, feeling. Preserving or protecting one's own identity is much more about feeling than reason. That is all I meant by irrational in this case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: When I first saw his comment, I thought he meant his own panic attacks. :-) Seriously, I think most people have BW's number when he wants to troll - its no big deal. Those that don't, get it soon enough. In this case he is feeling vulnerable and small. Why not just let him? I understand your attempt to shine a light on this behavior but that is a rational approach to irrational behavior. How can you make progress that way? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip Well, in that case, I'll dive once more into the whole issue. I have nothing to lose, since the attacks started even before I told the story. :-) No, they didn't. See, folks, this is BS as Frankfurt defined it in that quote I posted. Barry doesn't even *care* what the facts are.
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Why not try to contact the dragon now? You have a clear recollection of it. I'll bet you can bring the dragon back if you want to. What makes you think The Dragon wants to see those two again ? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Discerning truth from bullshit (was Re: The problem Atheists have)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: But it sure was fun. And if Ron's dragon lore has anything of truth about it, I want to publicly thank that dragon for allowing me to see it. You were just fuckin' AWESOME, dude. May you fly forever. And if I ever see you again, next time I'm going to fuckin' stop the car and try to have a conversation with you. Just sayin'. This is your year man. This is your year. It's even said to be an auspicious time to have a child, if you are so inclined. (-: On another note, from my weird thoughts department, does it seem like the Year of the Dragon is getting a little more notice than usual, and not because a dragon is cooler than a rat say, but because China just has more clout. They've appropriated our jobs, they've pretty much, along with India and Brazil, appropriated our middle class, they've appropriated our new frontier of green energy manufacturing, which was supposed to be our saving grace. They are a becoming the economic super power everyone looks up to, while we're, literally, building a bigger bomb. Don't get me wrong. I still have enough Republican in me to feel safer with a strong defense. By the way, did anyone hear the interview on Diane Rehm with Zbigniew Brzezinski? I only heard little bits, but he impressed me as a very clear thinker. Anyway, supper's waiting and I gotta get to it. Thanks for the story, Barry. A good story teller!
[FairfieldLife] The Truth About Hair
http://www.manataka.org/page2423.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- Consider The Source
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Noticing that no one really followed up on the Seeker-Skeptic dialogue I posted yesterday about the origins of the myths about what happens to you when you criticize a spiritual teacher, Maybe nobody followed up because we've all seen this same sermon from you umpty times before?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- Consider The Source
No kidding, Barry, are you even aware how *repetitious* your raps are? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Noticing that no one really followed up on the Seeker-Skeptic dialogue I posted yesterday about the origins of the myths about what happens to you when you criticize a spiritual teacher, Maybe nobody followed up because we've all seen this same sermon from you umpty times before?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- Consider The Source
authfriend: No kidding, Barry, are you even aware how *repetitious* your raps are? Apparently Barry is unaware that his posts, at least from 1995 on Usenet, all say the same thing: he believes in the reincarnation of the soul. That's his religion. Why he would deny it hundreds of times on FFL is beyond me! You have to consider the source - it's the same 'reincarnation' theory that Rama wrote about in his book.
[FairfieldLife] real truth about Maitreya
http://www.maitreyaproject.org/en/maitreya/forms_of_maitreya.html
[FairfieldLife] The Truth About Justice Sotomayor
The Truth About Justice Sotomayor Lary Coppola Editor and Publisher Kitsap Peninsula Business Journal Dear Mr. Coppola mailto:bizn...@wetapple.com , There are many business-oriented newspapers in this state, but yours is the only one I know of that is discerning enough to carry Adele Ferguson's column. That's a shame, because those other papers' readers are missing out on some of the most insightful political commentary available anywhere. Few columnists have the guts to defend the institution of slavery and bemoan the sorry plight of top shelf blacks who were forced into freedom, but Mrs Ferguson does. http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2006/03/recruiting-top-drawer-blacks-for\ -gop.html She is also the only columnist who fully comprehends the threat Somali pirates pose http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/02/arrg-pour-me-another-venti-m\ ocha-i.html to the Washington State Ferry System. Sure, sometimes she's wrong, but even then, she rebounds with a column that is invariably a work of pure genius. Such was the case when she admitted that she was wrong when she predicted that Obama would nominate a black for his first Supreme Court appointment. Here's http://kpbj.com/opinions/politics/2010-02-01/does_obama_have_a_bad_memo\ ry_or_was_he_just_stringing_us_along what Mrs. Ferguson had to say after he picked Sonia Sotomayor instead: I was wrong there. I still don't understand who President Obama was pleasing when he picked a white Jewish woman instead. He didn't know her. Somebody had to press her case. I'd give anything to know who and the identities of his inner circle.There's that genius I was writing about. While everyone else slavishly repeated Obama's spin that Sotomayor is an Hispanic Catholic, only Mrs. Ferguson had the guts to inform us that the newest justice is actually a white Jew who was forced onto us by the secret cabal of Jews who control Obama. As the editor and publisher of a newspaper that carries her column, that kind of reporting must make you very proud. Heterosexually yours, Gen. JC Christian, patriot http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2010/04/truth-about-justice-sotamayor.htm\ l
[FairfieldLife] Myth Truth about Health Care Bill
http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/03/mythfactshcr-2.pdf Myth Truth 1. This is a universal health care bill. The bill is neither universal health care nor universal health insurance. Per the CBO: * Total uninsured in 2019 with no bill: 54 million * Total uninsured in 2019 with Senate bill: 24 million (44%) 2. Insurance companies hate this bill. This bill is almost identical to the plan written by AHIP, the insurance company trade association, in 2009. The original Senate Finance Committee bill was authored by a former Wellpoint VP. Since Congress released the first of its health care bills on October 30, 2009, health care stocks have risen 28.35%. 3. The bill will significantly bring down insurance premiums for most Americans. The bill will not bring down premiums significantly, and certainly not the $2,500/year that the President promised. Annual premiums in 2016, status quo / with bill: * Small group market, single: $7,800 / $7,800 * Small group market, family: $19,300 / $19,200 * Large Group market, single: $7,400 / $7,300 * Large group market, family: $21,100 / $21,300 * Individual market, single: $5,500 / $5,800* * Individual market, family: $13,100 / $15,200* 4. The bill will make health care affordable for middle class Americans. The bill will impose a financial hardship on middle class Americans who will be forced to buy a product that they can't afford to use. A family of four making $66,370 will be forced to pay $5,243 per year for insurance. After basic necessities, this leaves them with $8,307 in discretionary income out of which they would have to cover clothing, credit card and other debt, child care and education costs, in addition to $5,882 in annual out-of-pocket medical expenses for which families will be responsible. 5. This plan is similar to the Massachusetts plan, which makes health care affordable. Many Massachusetts residents forgo health care because they can't afford it. A 2009 study by the state of Massachusetts found that: * 21% of residents forgo medical treatment because they can't afford it, including 12% of children * 18% have health insurance but can't afford to use it 6. This bill provide health care to 31 million people who are currently uninsured. This bill will mandate that millions of people who are currently uninsured must purchase insurance from private companies, or the IRS will collect up to 2% of their annual income in penalties. Some will be assisted with government subsidies. 7. You can keep the insurance you have if you like it. The excise tax will result in employers switching to plans with higher co-pays and fewer covered services. Older, less healthy employees with employer-based health care will be forced to pay much more in out-of-pocket expenses than they do now. 8. The excise tax will encourage employers to reduce the scope of health care benefits, and they will pass the savings on to employees in the form of higher wages. There is insufficient evidence that employers pass savings from reduced benefits on to employees. 9. This bill employs nearly every cost control idea available to bring down costs. This bill does not bring down costs and leaves out nearly every key cost control measure, including: * Public Option ($25-$110 billion) * Medicare buy-in * Drug reimportation ($19 billion) * Medicare drug price negotiation ($300 billion) * Shorter pathway to generic biologics ($71 billion) 10. The bill will require big companies like WalMart to provide insurance for their employees. The bill was written so that most WalMart employees will qualify for subsidies, and taxpayers will pick up a large portion of the cost of their coverage. 11. The bill bends the cost curve on health care. The bill ignored proven ways to cut health care costs and still leaves 24 million people uninsured, all while slightly raising total annual costs by $234 million in 2019. Bends the cost curve is a misleading and trivial claim, as the US would still spend far more for care than other advanced countries. In 2009, health care costs were 17.3% of GDP. * Annual cost of health care in 2019, status quo: $4,670.6 billion (20.8% of GDP) * Annual cost of health care in 2019, Senate bill: $4,693.5 billion (20.9% of GDP) 12. The bill will provide immediate access to insurance for Americans who are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition. Access to the high risk pool is limited and the pool is underfunded. It will cover few people, and will run out of money in 2011 or 2012 Only those who have been uninsured for more than six months will qualify for the high risk pool. Only 0.7% of those without insurance now will get coverage, and the CMS report estimates it will run out of funding by 2011 or 2012. 13. The bill prohibits dropping people in individual plans from coverage when they get sick. The bill does
[FairfieldLife] The truth about Republicans ... by George Carlin
George Carlin was a favorite comedian of mine for his direct, right on ripping humor. He did this particular routine quite a few years back and it seems the Republicans haven't changed much at all since then. I didn't know however that that many Reagan administration officials faced criminal charges. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBfqrNoFXQ
[FairfieldLife] The Truth in Labeling Coalition: May 9 event in Fairfield [2 Attachments]
We warmly invite you to a public awareness event hosted by the M.U.M. Department of Sustainable Living Saturday, May 9 at 8:00 PM in Dalby Hall. Please see the attached ad for details, and forward this email. Thank you!! Citizens to Label GE Foods is helping to organize the The Truth in Labeling Coalition. (TLC). TLC is a group consisting of medical doctors, farmers, whole food manufacturers and distributors, whole food retailers and coops, NGO's, and concerned citizens. This group is coming together for the purpose of passing a law requiring mandatory labeling of laboratory- based genetic manipulation of our food. We believe members of the public are unwitting participants in a far-reaching, unregulated human health experiment. Both government and media funded surveys indicate that 90% of Americans, when clearly informed, insist on labeling of such substances in their food. In discussions of this issue, most people are dumfounded to hear that our Governement is not already requiring such labeling and human health testing, as well as testing for environmental impact. The Coalition is utilizing the talent and knowledge of an experienced lobbying firm in Washington, D.C. comprised of former four-term Congressman Jim Bates and his partner, Christopher Kip Byrne, former FDIC legal director. Both Mr. Bates and Mr. Byrne understand the importance of keeping genetically engineered contamination out of the organic production chain. More importantly, they they are experienced professionals who offer a realistic chance of passing a bill requiring mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food through Congress. (see attached bio for more information) We are working to expand the coalition and generate the financial support needed to navigate new labeling legislation through Congress. Early supporters include: Derek and Nancy Casady, Ocean Beach People's Organic Food Coop (with over 10,000 members); Chris Wege, Citizens to Label GE Food, Andrew Kimbrell, Center for Food Safety; Michael Funk, United Natural Foods International; Kathy Larson, Frontier Natural Products Coop; New Pioneer Food Coop, Iowa City (over 20,000 active members); Mike Potter, Eden Foods; and Ronnie Cummins, Organic Consumers Association. Please come out and show these great leaders how enthusiastic we are about this critical issue! Yours truly, Chris Wege Anne Dietrich Citizens to Label Genetically Engineered Food P.O. Box 1208 Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Web: www.gmofoodlabel.org http://www.gmofoodlabel.org http://www.gmofoodlabel.org Phone: (641) 472-0411 Fax: (641) 469-5779
[FairfieldLife] Create Truth
Create Truth All animals are born with a program, only man is born without a program.. Man is born as a TABULA RASA, a clean slate; nothing is written on it.. You have to write everything that you want to write on it; it is going to be your creation. Man is not only free -- I would like to say man is freedom. That is his essential core, that's his very soul. The moment you deny freedom to man you have denied him his most precious treasure, his very kingdom. Then he is a beggar and in a far more ugly situation than other animals, because at least they have a certain program. Then man is simply lost. Once this is understood, that man is born AS freedom, then all the dimensions to grow open up. Then it is up to you what to become, what not to become. It is going to be your own creation. Then life becomes an adventure -- not an enfoldment but an adventure, an exploration, a discovery. The truth is not already given to you, you have to create it. In a way, each moment you are creating yourself. Luke Chapter 4 Verse 12 http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
[FairfieldLife] The Truth about Osama bin Laden and Iraq from Wesley Clark
from WesleyClark http://www.youtube.com/user/WesleyClark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8aOiMmekGk
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth about Osama bin Laden and Iraq from Wesley Clark
Rick Archer wrote: from WesleyClark http://www.youtube.com/user/WesleyClark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8aOiMmekGk So YouTube moves into the 21st century. They now show videos in widescreen aspect ratio 16:9. No more having to create a letterbox version of a video for YouTube but not for Vimeo. :-D http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=0i22UDAOfj8
[FairfieldLife] Missouri Truth Squads To Protect Obama Campaign
http://tinyurl.com/4msamj Welcome, comrades to Obamanation. This jaw dropping video exposes Obama for the Marxist thug that he is. If Obama says your criticism of him is a lie, then it's a lie, even if it's true. So in an Obama Presidency, keep you mouth shut and your opinions to yourself unless you have your jammies packed and ready for Gitmo. THE TRUTH SQUAD COMETH FOR YOU! Missouri Gov. Matt Blunt Pushes Back FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Saturday, September 27, 2008 Contact: Jessica Robinson, 573-751-0290 Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign's Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics. St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign. What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment. This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson's thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election. Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society. http://tinyurl.com/4aqvao
[FairfieldLife] The Truth According to Puppetji
The Truth According to Puppetji: http://www.puppetji.blogspot.com/ http://www.puppetji.blogspot.com/ [:x]
[FairfieldLife] Richard's truth
Richard, You've avoided the issue of suffering. I officially give up on hoping that your scholarship in all things eastern has had any value in tempering your heart. I agree with a lot you've espoused -- getting a handle on the immigrant problem, for instance -- but your callous disregard for suffering completely undermines your presentation here -- you seem, well, inhuman, or perhaps not that bad, but psychotically disconnected, at least, to put on blinders to the degree clearly showing in your political statements. Do you have children? Do you beat them regularly? I wouldn't want to live next door to you if I still was raising my kids. Did you torture animals when you were a child? My harsh suggestion that you get a KKK flaming cross up your ass was poetry to try to embody the repulsion I feel for your cruel mindset. What should actually happen to you as just-karma for your resonance with evil? I'll leave that up to God, but at least know that I think you are turd. You soil our community here, and all your knowledge serves but as sheep's clothing for your wolfish appetite for blackheartedness. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off wrote: Stop policing the world, spend the money at home for better security at ports etc. I'm all in favor of security, but we must stand up and fight the terrorists where they live and breed. It is impossible to make U.S. borders 100% secure. And I'm not in favor of the federal government spending a lot of taxpayer money on social projects like a nationalized social security medical program or giving U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund government schools. Right now, the US is open to attack due to no money to pay enough border guards, and high tech security that could be possible, to do the ambitious things You don't need high tech gadgets to make the border between the U.S. and Mexico secure - all you need is a border patrol and a long fence like Duncan Hunter installed in San Diego county. the nutcase Bush thinks he can do for free. Over 50% of U.S. voters voted for the Republican Party AFTER the Allied invasion of Iraq. Ron Paul's plan is the only viable one. The 9/11 commission and the CIA both concluded the main facter US was attacked was because of US military bases and involvement in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. You need to face the facts: the U.S. is going to have forces in the Middle East for a long time. We've had U.S. forces in Europe and the Far East for over fifty years. We have treaties to uphold. Ron Paul is the only one with a rational plan. It is not rational to think that Ron Paul will be the Republican nominee. And it is not rational to think that U.S. voters would vote for someone like Ron Paul. The majority of voting Americans are not in favor of withdrawing U.S. troops from NATO and withdrawing from the U.N. The majority of U.S. voters are not in favor of pulling all U.S. troops out of Europe, the Middle East and the Far East. And the majority of U.S. voters are not in favor of retreating from the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. Ron Paul's plan to get elected is not rational, it is idealistic.
[FairfieldLife] The truth about flying, CC in 5-8, etc.
This guy got up to the mike, 1972 Majorca, and asked Maharishi if this five to eight years was something he'd said, and Maharishi said: NO, NO, NO, NO NOnot for you. For teachers of TM we should be thinking only two years. Not an exact quote, but I was there, and that's exactly what he MEANT. I sold TM to EVERYONE on the basis of that five to eight year claim. It took me FIFTEEN two-year-hunks before I gave up hope of getting to CC in this lifetime, and finally faced that I'd been sold a bill of goods and was just another cultish true believer. Talk about being in denial. To me, one of the most telling facts that EVERY TRUE BELIEVER KNOWS IS TRUE is that no one is hovering -- and that those who are most dedicated to TM, those on Purusha and Mother Divine, have not perfected this siddhi yet. Given how much TM has used flimsy quasi-scientific evidence to the hilt, there can be no doubt that the TMO would be running banner ads in every media if there was a TMer hovering -- it would easily get the TMO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS almost overnight. NO ONE IS HOVERING. The Purusha and Mother Divine folks were/are required to be much much more pure in their relative lives. If those fuckers can't fly, why would anyone in the householder lifestyle even begin to think they'll be lucky enough to perfect that siddhi? I feel so fucking stupid to have ever even tried to evolve when I see so many who have left Purusha, entered business life, and been just as assholish as me. I just don't see any superiority in them, moral or otherwise, nor did I sense anything much in the vibes of those who were still on the program. But I was plainly LIED to by true believers who came back from the first six-month courses and said the most outlandish assertions ever about it. This is it guys...you have to get to this course. Like that. And now the poor pundits are in a slave camp and freezing and low on food. The TMO took my ATR credits and never even bothered to tell me until I applied for the siddhi course -- IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY. It's snowing here in Wisconsin for the sixth time in a month. My arms and wrists are killing me after another two hours of shoveling my corner house's walk and drive; ibuprofen will mostly cure my physical woes, but my psychic arms and wrists still are sore from all the shit I shoveled for the TMO. To me THE LACK OF FLYING AFTER 30 YEARS OF FOLKS TRYING IS FUCKING PROOF THAT ANYONE WOULD BE A FOOL TO BELIEVE IN IT ENOUGH TO DEDICATE THEIR LIFE TO IT. I did more than that: I sold out my family, my career, and my precious integrity based on a bill of goods that never had any more value than a pig in a poke. 29 years, four hours a day. But, hey, I got off lite, cuz I didn't pay a million buckazoids for a crown and an empty title. If I ever see Bevan or John in person again, I'm going to spit out the above words with as much rage as I can muster. Neither would finish a meal in any restaurant I would find them in. They'd have to call the cops to drag my ass out of there. This is about predation. I was one of the suckers born every minute. Judy, do you think, in the next 20 years that anyone will fly? If not, then why bother? Be born in the family of yogis in your next lifetime and enjoy what you have left of this one. If Maharishi had handled the money correctly, I might still be in the fold -- so, bottom line, THANKS FOR ROBBING US ALL BLIND, MAHARISHI, it was one of the major components of my REALIZATION that I was duped to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost opportunities, and tens of thousands in actual out of pocket money -- and this loss was as if nothing compared to the burden that my past memories have on me even now. Mirrors are hard to have around. But thanks, TMO, thanks Maharishi, at least after such a divine screwing as I've received from this, I can avoid suchlike for the rest of my life and enjoy what I have now without the onus of making a spiritual case for its value. After such a religious rape, THANKS, I get it now. I can have a beer, a steak, and a fuck -- daily for the rest of my life -- without even one idea passing through my mind about sin, and if anyone, ANYONE, looks cross-eyed at me for it, they'll get my fullest energetic blast back at them if they emit the slightest judgmental peep about it. It's about the money, and here's the good news: MAHARISHI IS GOING TO DIE ANY DAY NOWand the shit is going to hit a very big fan. I hope I get to see it, but at the rate that the snow is falling here, I may freeze to death by tomorrow. Since I began writing, my shoveling has all been erased under another four inches of snow. FUCK FUCK FUCK! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you not agree that the TMO teaches a flying technique and no one is flying. If so I believe science would invalidate the TMO claims that they can teach people to fly. Perhaps a refund would
RE: [FairfieldLife] The truth about flying, CC in 5-8, etc.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] The truth about flying, CC in 5-8, etc. Since I began writing, my shoveling has all been erased under another four inches of snow. You lucky bastard. All we’re getting is ice here. I’d LOVE to have all that snow. Get yourself some cross-country or back country skis if you don’t have any and get out there and work up a sweat. Burn off some of that rage. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth
--Excellent, thanks for thissounds like the voice of direct experience. Helpful would be some of the symptoms along the way, as well as a list of entities the person saw or heard in the form of subtle sounds; that could be taken as signposts along the way to a complete breakthrough. This would include visions of the Radiant form of the Guru, if any. In the Sant Mat Tradition (which almost exclusively emphasizes the 3-rd opening), visions of the Guru are considered to be the foremost indicator of a success, along with hearing various manifestation of the Sound Current. Charlie Lutes told me he could tune into the OM at will. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Perfect Madness, from awakening to enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell page 121: The third eye is the beacon to the inner universe that sees the inner and outer as inseparable. This eye sees all creation as unified and yet permits one to operate within the world of complexities and multitudes. The opening of the third eye is the opening of knowledge, which is understanding and experiencing---in unison---life's phenomena. When the third eye opens, the intellect and the emotions, thoughts and feelings, can finally work together--as one. The opening of the third eye is the pure and simple cognitive ability to see living Truth, unfettered and pure. Truth is not something we can put our finger on or file away as real or pertinent. It cannot even be written or talked about with any accuracy, for words are only pointers. The most amazing thing about the opening of the third eye is that it sees Truth as alive. Untouched by human intellect, unstirred by emotion, and undivided in its purpose. Truth is the living principle upon which the universe was and is created.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Truth
--- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie Lutes told me he could tune into the OM at will. Charlie said a lot of sh*t that we now realize was sh*t! We loved the old coot, but many take his tales with a grain of salt now. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Perfect Madness, from awakening to enlightenment by Donna Lee Gorrell page 121: The third eye is the beacon to the inner universe that sees the inner and outer as inseparable. This eye sees all creation as unified and yet permits one to operate within the world of complexities and multitudes. The opening of the third eye is the opening of knowledge, which is understanding and experiencing---in unison---life's phenomena. When the third eye opens, the intellect and the emotions, thoughts and feelings, can finally work together--as one. The opening of the third eye is the pure and simple cognitive ability to see living Truth, unfettered and pure. Truth is not something we can put our finger on or file away as real or pertinent. It cannot even be written or talked about with any accuracy, for words are only pointers. The most amazing thing about the opening of the third eye is that it sees Truth as alive. Untouched by human intellect, unstirred by emotion, and undivided in its purpose. Truth is the living principle upon which the universe was and is created. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
[FairfieldLife] If truth be told...
Am I the only one who is not disappointed that Debra Lafave did not get a prison sentence for her supposed rape of that 14-year-old boy? Sorry, but I agree with the so-called double standard. When I was 14- years old, I would have given my right arm to have sex with such a babe. It IS different betweeen men and women as far as this issue is concerned, equality of the sexes not withstanding! Truthfully, do any of the men on this forum really feel that what was done to the 14 year old was so horrible? Would YOU have said no to her? Here's her picture: http://anekdota.dyndns.org/jotd26/att-0029/02-snaps_23-year-old- teacher_debra-lafave.jpg To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] If truth be told...
on 3/22/06 3:22 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one who is not disappointed that Debra Lafave did not get a prison sentence for her supposed rape of that 14-year-old boy? Sorry, but I agree with the so-called double standard. When I was 14- years old, I would have given my right arm to have sex with such a babe. It IS different betweeen men and women as far as this issue is concerned, equality of the sexes not withstanding! Truthfully, do any of the men on this forum really feel that what was done to the 14 year old was so horrible? Would YOU have said no to her? Same thing happened to me when I was about a year older than that, with my best friend's mother. I was drunk the first time, and had yet to develop a sense of morality or ethics. If something felt good, I was inclined to do it. She probably wasn't more mature than I was in this respect. The affair went on for at least a year. When I got tired of it, she did the same with some of my friends. On the whole, it didn't have a good effect on me, to say the least. Never, at any time between then and now, have I felt that she should have been jailed for this. But some sort of therapy to help her grow out of this behavior would have been useful. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Conditioning./Truth
I'm fascinated enough with this subject to make it its own thread, to see if others here are equally fascinated. See, we maybe conditioned to stop the car when the traffic lights turn red. You can provisionally accept it, validate it as true, based on observation etc. The conditioning is that you connect two facts, the red traffic lights, and the need to stop the car. But that's a different type of conditioning; that's more like Pavlov's dogs. I was talking (and thought you were talking) about becoming convinced that something is true. But its all connected. You experience something, and then you are being told something about that experience. (Or are otherwise no need for all the lectures!) What you know, reinforces the experience in a certain way. Then the reinforced experience reinforces your belief about it again. You cannot isolate the two. It seems terribly important *to* the conditioned ego to believe that it hasn't been conditioned, that it has thought up (or verified) all these concepts that have been taught to it on its own. The bottom line, however, is that it rarely, if ever, deviates from the concepts taught to it. And also feels the compulsion to argue their obvious truth with others. My approach to the subject of conditioning has a lot to do with my time with Rama. Whatever else he might have been, he was a master at channeling and broadcasting light (or whatever it was) so strongly that it just blew away *all* of your conditioning. You'd go to the desert with him convinced you had pretty much everything figured out, and the next day you'd awaken essentially *empty*, with not a certainty left in you. About *anything*. It was as if the slate had been wiped clean. That's a *very* disconcerting process to go through. There is very little to hang onto, and very little self left to even want to. The *only* thing left to cling to is Self. And, when repeated over and over for years, this process has the definite advantage (or disadvantage...however you see it) of leaving one very suspicious of the concept of truth. When you've seen your own truths blasted to bits and revealed as merely passing relative truths hundreds of times, you don't tend to develop the same attachment to the *latest* truth that some seekers do. Or that's my experience, anyway. The bottom line for me, when I encounter a new spiritual trip, is to try to suss out how strongly this group believes it knows the truth. If the group has a *very* strong set of dogma, and its practitioners display a *very* strong attachment to the idea that they know the truth, what I inquire into next is the subjective pace of change that these practitioners report as a result of their practice. What I've found (and others should feel free to contra- dict me if you've found otherwise) is that, in general, the slower the pace of spiritual change in the seekers, the stronger the clinging to dogma and the belief that they know the truth is in those seekers. And the opposite -- in groups whose adherents seem to experience a very *rapid* pace of change, in which they see what they consider to be radical spiritual progress on a daily or at least a weekly basis, there is very *little* tendency to cling to dogma or certainty about what constitutes truth. It's as if truth is allowed in these latter groups to flow, to be a dynamic process that changes every day, as the seeker changes. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Conditioning./Truth
This also has to do with the quality of teaching of the so-called Socratic Method, based on the teachings of Socrates, in that the questions would determine the teaching; and the depth of the questions, would elicit the depth of response. Therefore there would be a group desire to transcend to deeper levels of truth, in order to ask deeper questions of Socrates... I always felt that Maharishi is a reincarnation of Socrates, in that I had heard, that one explanation for the blind love for him, was because in a previous incarnation, that he had been matured; so I thought of Socrates, when I heard that, as well as the similar garb...TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated enough with this subject to makeit its own thread, to see if others here areequally fascinated. See, we maybe conditioned to stop the car when the traffic lights turn red. You can provisionally accept it, validate it as true, based on observation etc. The conditioning is that you connect two facts, the red traffic lights, and the need to stop the car. But that's a different type of conditioning; that's more like Pavlov's dogs. I was talking (and thought you were talking) about becoming convinced that something is true. But its all connected. You experience something, and then you are being told something about that experience. (Or are otherwise no need for all the lectures!) What you know, reinforces the experience in a certain way. Then the reinforced experience reinforces your belief about it again. You cannot isolate the two. It seems terribly important *to* the conditioned ego to believe that it hasn't been conditioned, that it has thought up (or "verified") all these concepts that have been taught to it on its own. The bottom line, however, is that it rarely, if ever, deviates from the concepts taught to it. And also feels the compulsion to argue their obvious "truth" with others.My approach to the subject of "conditioning" has alot to do with my time with Rama. Whatever else hemight have been, he was a master at channeling and"broadcasting" light (or whatever it was) so stronglythat it just blew away *all* of your conditioning.You'd go to the desert with him convinced you had pretty much everything figured out, and the next dayyou'd awaken essentially *empty*, with not a certaintyleft in you. About *anything*. It was as if the slatehad been wiped clean. That's a *very* disconcerting process to go through.There is very little to hang onto, and very littleself left to even want to. The *only* thing left tocling to is Self.And, when repeated over and over for years, this process has the definite advantage (or disadvantage...however you see it) of leaving one very suspicious of the concept of "truth." When you've seen your own "truths" blastedto bits and revealed as merely passing relative truths hundreds of times, you don't tend to develop the same attachment to the *latest* "truth" that some seekers do. Or that's my experience, anyway.The bottom line for me, when I encounter a new spiritualtrip, is to try to suss out how strongly this group believes it knows the "truth." If the group has a *very*strong set of dogma, and its practitioners display a *very* strong attachment to the idea that they "know the truth," what I inquire into next is the subjective "pace of change" that these practitioners report as a result of their practice.What I've found (and others should feel free to contra-dict me if you've found otherwise) is that, in general,the slower the pace of spiritual change in the seekers, the stronger the clinging to dogma and the belief that they "know the truth" is in those seekers. And the opposite -- in groups whose adherents seem to experience a very *rapid* pace of change, in which they see what they consider to be radical spiritual progress on a daily or at least a weekly basis, there is very *little* tendency to cling to dogma or certainty about what constitutes "truth." It's as if "truth" is allowed in these latter groups to "flow," to be a dynamic process that changes every day, as the seeker changes.UncTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Conditioning./Truth
Thanks for posting this Barry. I've been too busy to engage in much discussion, but I find the observation useful, and have mentioned it to several people in discussions today. It reminds me of Byron Katie, who encourages people to question everything they regard as absolute truth. on 7/11/05 3:45 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated enough with this subject to make it its own thread, to see if others here are equally fascinated. See, we maybe conditioned to stop the car when the traffic lights turn red. You can provisionally accept it, validate it as true, based on observation etc. The conditioning is that you connect two facts, the red traffic lights, and the need to stop the car. But that's a different type of conditioning; that's more like Pavlov's dogs. I was talking (and thought you were talking) about becoming convinced that something is true. But its all connected. You experience something, and then you are being told something about that experience. (Or are otherwise no need for all the lectures!) What you know, reinforces the experience in a certain way. Then the reinforced experience reinforces your belief about it again. You cannot isolate the two. It seems terribly important *to* the conditioned ego to believe that it hasn't been conditioned, that it has thought up (or verified) all these concepts that have been taught to it on its own. The bottom line, however, is that it rarely, if ever, deviates from the concepts taught to it. And also feels the compulsion to argue their obvious truth with others. My approach to the subject of conditioning has a lot to do with my time with Rama. Whatever else he might have been, he was a master at channeling and broadcasting light (or whatever it was) so strongly that it just blew away *all* of your conditioning. You'd go to the desert with him convinced you had pretty much everything figured out, and the next day you'd awaken essentially *empty*, with not a certainty left in you. About *anything*. It was as if the slate had been wiped clean. That's a *very* disconcerting process to go through. There is very little to hang onto, and very little self left to even want to. The *only* thing left to cling to is Self. And, when repeated over and over for years, this process has the definite advantage (or disadvantage...however you see it) of leaving one very suspicious of the concept of truth. When you've seen your own truths blasted to bits and revealed as merely passing relative truths hundreds of times, you don't tend to develop the same attachment to the *latest* truth that some seekers do. Or that's my experience, anyway. The bottom line for me, when I encounter a new spiritual trip, is to try to suss out how strongly this group believes it knows the truth. If the group has a *very* strong set of dogma, and its practitioners display a *very* strong attachment to the idea that they know the truth, what I inquire into next is the subjective pace of change that these practitioners report as a result of their practice. What I've found (and others should feel free to contra- dict me if you've found otherwise) is that, in general, the slower the pace of spiritual change in the seekers, the stronger the clinging to dogma and the belief that they know the truth is in those seekers. And the opposite -- in groups whose adherents seem to experience a very *rapid* pace of change, in which they see what they consider to be radical spiritual progress on a daily or at least a weekly basis, there is very *little* tendency to cling to dogma or certainty about what constitutes truth. It's as if truth is allowed in these latter groups to flow, to be a dynamic process that changes every day, as the seeker changes. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The truth must be told. India is a big pile of shit - by Sid Harth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari Om, Of Harappa and Hindu Haramjadeh by Sid Harth ...The truth must be told. India is a big pile of shit, take it or leave it. Hilarious stuff Sid Harth. Thanks for the lol. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Truth About Britain
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:26:59 -0700 From: NHNE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Study: Length Of Time People Spend Having Sex NHNE News List Current Members: 1337 Subscribe/unsubscribe/archive info at the bottom of this message. --- WATCH THE CLOCK, DARLING BRITS LAST LONGEST AT SEX By Ben Dowell The Sunday Times - Britain May 22, 2005 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1622297,00.html A scientific study to be published this week will suggest that British men are world leaders at sex, at least when they are measured against the clock. But that is not saying much considering that most men in other countries were at best five-minute wonders. After equipping hundreds of couples in various countries with stopwatches, researchers have for the first time amassed accurate data on the length of time that people spend having sex. Across all the countries studied, the average time for actual lovemaking was 5.4 minutes. Around that figure, however, the researchers found considerable variations related to age and nationality. While British men took on average 7.6 minutes, the typical American took 7 minutes, while the Spanish lasted 5.8 minutes and the Dutch 5.1 minutes. The Turks produced the biggest surprise: on average they spend just 3.7 minutes at it. In all the countries studied there was no significant difference in the timings whether the men were using condoms or not. In the research, to be published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, British and Dutch scientists studied 500 couples aged over 18 in the five countries. Sexual events were stopwatch-timed over a four-week period and recorded, says Dr Marcel Waldinger, a leading neuro-psychiatrist based at Utrecht University who led the research. The findings also revealed how the time from start to finish of sex decreased with age, from an average of 6.5 minutes for men aged 18-30 to 4.3 minutes for those over 51. The researchers say the findings indicate that male sexual functioning varies significantly between healthy individuals, and there is no easy definition of what should be classified as average sexual performance or premature ejaculation. The wide range among normal men points to a physical rather than a psychological cause for premature ejaculation, said Waldinger. The results will help to lift the taboo over premature ejaculation because they show that men are indeed different from one another. Just why there are significant national differences is not clear and the researchers plan bigger studies and yet more research to find an explanation. NHNE News List: To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth About Britain
Sad that the average time is so small. Men really need to practice more, I would say... Funny, how deeply programed we are to be so obsessed for five minutes of pleasure? Or, maybe not so funny...L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:26:59 -0700 From: NHNE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Study: Length Of Time People Spend Having SexNHNE News ListCurrent Members: 1337Subscribe/unsubscribe/archive info at the bottom of this message.---WATCH THE CLOCK, DARLING BRITS LAST LONGEST AT SEXBy Ben DowellThe Sunday Times - BritainMay 22, 2005http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1622297,00.htmlA scientific study to be published this week will suggest that British menare world leaders at sex, at least when they are measured against the clock.But that is not saying much considering that most men in other countrieswere at best five-minute wonders.After equipping hundreds of couples in various countries with stopwatches,researchers have for the first time amassed accurate data on the length oftime that people spend having sex.Across all the countries studied, the average time for actual lovemaking was5.4 minutes. Around that figure, however, the researchers found considerablevariations related to age and nationality.While British men took on average 7.6 minutes, the typical American took 7minutes, while the Spanish lasted 5.8 minutes and the Dutch 5.1 minutes.The Turks produced the biggest surprise: on average they spend just 3.7minutes at it.In all the countries studied there was no significant difference in thetimings whether the men were using condoms or not.In the research, to be published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, Britishand Dutch scientists studied 500 couples aged over 18 in the five countries."Sexual events were stopwatch-timed over a four-week period and recorded,"says Dr Marcel Waldinger, a leading neuro-psychiatrist based at UtrechtUniversity who led the research.The findings also revealed how the time from start to finish of sexdecreased with age, from an average of 6.5 minutes for men aged 18-30 to 4.3minutes for those over 51.The researchers say the findings indicate that male sexual functioningvaries significantly between healthy individuals, and there is no easydefinition of what should be classified as average sexual performance orpremature ejaculation."The wide range among normal men points to a physical rather than apsychological cause for premature ejaculation," said Waldinger."The results will help to lift the taboo over premature ejaculation becausethey show that men are indeed different from one another."Just why there are significant national differences is not clear and theresearchers plan bigger studies and yet more research to find anexplanation.NHNE News List:To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] The Truth Is!
It's amazing to see people pay $5800.00 plus room and board so they can BE what they already are! :-) ROFLOL Actually, it's all about getting money to pay for the completion of the pundit project. They ran out of money because there are no pundits. People have stopped their donations because it was contingent on pundits. And the bank won't give them anymore money, because the bank money was contingent on the donations of the people who thought there would be pundits this time. So what to do? What to do? Let's un-governorize all the governors and then hold a course and charge them thousands of dollars to make them governors again. The course fees will give us the money to complete the pundit project. MUM staff and faculty will be task forced to do all the work for essentially no additional expense. We'll tell everyone that this special wave of new knowledge will bring in Sat Yuga by July 21. This will make everyone guilty if they don't drop everything and come right away. Then we'll tell everyone that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, they don't want to miss it. It may never come again. They will all rush here. After the course everyone will be all blissed and happy that they got in on it and are governors again. Oh wait excuse me--CERTIFIED GOVERNORS with the certificate to prove it. And some will be Raja Designates that were able to sit in the front row, near the real Rajas, during the course. Like that, like that. And even though we said the pundit project was completed months ago, when we put out that fake brochure with the doctored photos. NOW we will actually have a completed pundit project -- WELL, except for the pundit part. We'll have some extra cash on hand, and a completed housing facility ready for Purusha and/or Mother Divine when they are evicted from North Carolina. It will all work out very beautifully, and very beautifully, and very beautifully! No one will be the wiser, he he he! A little lighter in the wallet perhaps, but OBVIOUSLY no one has gotten any WISER! Creative Intelligence in action! Infinite Organizing Power! It's all s beautiful! ENGAGING TOTAL NATURAL LAW -- TO FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth Is!
Say it ain't so Joe! If this is what is really happening the TMO is in very big trouble. Maybe my dream of 25 years ago is true--the TMO is run by rakshasas. -Peter --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's amazing to see people pay $5800.00 plus room and board so they can BE what they already are! :-) ROFLOL Actually, it's all about getting money to pay for the completion of the pundit project. They ran out of money because there are no pundits. People have stopped their donations because it was contingent on pundits. And the bank won't give them anymore money, because the bank money was contingent on the donations of the people who thought there would be pundits this time. So what to do? What to do? Let's un-governorize all the governors and then hold a course and charge them thousands of dollars to make them governors again. The course fees will give us the money to complete the pundit project. MUM staff and faculty will be task forced to do all the work for essentially no additional expense. We'll tell everyone that this special wave of new knowledge will bring in Sat Yuga by July 21. This will make everyone guilty if they don't drop everything and come right away. Then we'll tell everyone that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, they don't want to miss it. It may never come again. They will all rush here. After the course everyone will be all blissed and happy that they got in on it and are governors again. Oh wait excuse me--CERTIFIED GOVERNORS with the certificate to prove it. And some will be Raja Designates that were able to sit in the front row, near the real Rajas, during the course. Like that, like that. And even though we said the pundit project was completed months ago, when we put out that fake brochure with the doctored photos. NOW we will actually have a completed pundit project -- WELL, except for the pundit part. We'll have some extra cash on hand, and a completed housing facility ready for Purusha and/or Mother Divine when they are evicted from North Carolina. It will all work out very beautifully, and very beautifully, and very beautifully! No one will be the wiser, he he he! A little lighter in the wallet perhaps, but OBVIOUSLY no one has gotten any WISER! Creative Intelligence in action! Infinite Organizing Power! It's all s beautiful! ENGAGING TOTAL NATURAL LAW -- TO FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE, ALL OF THE TIME! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
