Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
Yeah, you told off the Americans on the discussion group. Good work! Do you still have your American passport? LoL! On 10/20/2013 11:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Share wrote: > 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.' > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
"They wonder whether classic anti-Semitism is not back with a vengeance all over Europe, after several decades of post-Holocaust toleration. The fact that campaigns to make kosher slaughter and even circumcision illegal are gaining ground in several countries, and were even endorsed at the Coun

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2013-10-21 Thread Share Long
e Xeno, there have been a few times when I have somehow snuck past all the *sleeping elephants* and experienced pure love or something very close to it. It is a way of being that is in perfect harmony with the world and all of its big and little details. It is all forms of human, conditional lov

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2013-10-20 Thread anartaxius
I don't know. What is the difference between 'love' and 'pure love'? When people fall in love, they tend to be, for a while, enslaved by that feeling because ego becomes subdued. When one loves, though, there is a flow from subject to the perceived object, but I am not clear on what 'purity' me

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: (snip) > > Can you imagine an American President speaking like this today? > > Can you imagine an American President even having > the balls to try? > > No one else can, either. > > That

Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread Share Long
Xeno, is it even possible to enslave out of pure Love? I believe that it is and that it is one of the great paradoxes of life. Like the way a parent will set strong boundaries to protect their child. Like that, God, or we can call it Life, wants to give us all of itself. It will put us through h

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Share wrote: > 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.' > > Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the propaganda of a tyrant. > > Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the Ch

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2013-10-20 Thread anartaxius
Share wrote: 'OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love.' Were I this god, I would love this; you have succumbed to the propaganda of a tyrant. Thomas Jefferson, an admirer of Jesus but not of much else in the Christian Bible wrote of this god of the Torah (as th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread TurquoiseB
"As I've said before, IMO 'irony' is a tactic used primarily by people without balls who want to be able to tell the truth, but then deny that they said it later, claiming that they were 'only being ironic.'" - Apr 3, 2013, some FFLer or another --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Sh

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread authfriend
Share wrote: > Judy, I'm not 100% convinced that the Bible is God's word completely devoid > of human interpretation. You aren't!? That's just appalling. > OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love. No, no. God obviously hated Adam and Eve because they disobe

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread Share Long
Judy, I'm not 100% convinced that the Bible is God's word completely devoid of human interpretation. OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love. On Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:13 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:    Share wrote: > Seraphita, I could see that the

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread authfriend
Share wrote: > Seraphita, I could see that the serpent could also be a symbol of kundalini, > an > essential concept from another religion. It's not that God wants to enslave > us. > It's that people with certain ideas about God want to enslave us. They want > us > to believe their ide

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread Richard J. Williams
According to what I've read, the first dualist philosophy was probably the Indian Samkhya system - the term 'samkhya' pertains to number. Samkhya is a Vedic first cousin to the Avestan dualism of the Persian Zoroaster and the Manichaen Manes. Sankhya is the basis of all subsequent Asian dualism

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-20 Thread Share Long
Seraphita, I could see that the serpent could also be a symbol of kundalini, an essential concept from another religion. It's not that God wants to enslave us. It's that people with certain ideas about God want to enslave us. They want us to believe their ideas rather than the ideas of other rel

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
The Fall of Man myth is a universal story that teaches by means of a confidence trick. And the Lord God said, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the Tree of Life, and eat, and live for ever... therefore the Lor

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-19 Thread Share Long
Richard, do other cultures have a myth about the fall of humanity that centers around acquiring some forbidden knowledge? And in other cultures is the fall blamed on the women? On Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   It seems obvious that the stories and myth

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
It seems obvious that the stories and myths gathered in the Bible were assembled from immortality and fertility myths which were in common circulation at that time, that is, about 3000 years ago. Stephen Oppenheimer, writing in "Eden in the East" notes that many of these same mythic elements ar

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread authfriend
You seem to be responding to a different post than the one you quote. But don't worry, it was just a courtesy because I know it upsets you that I don't fall for your dishonesty, and I know you can't help being dishonest; after all, being truthful would require you to take account of reality. It'

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread Share Long
No need to be sorry, it's just your opinion to which you are entitled. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:21 AM, Share Long wrote:   I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Becau

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread authfriend
Don't believe you, sorry. Share wrote: I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfriend@..." wrote: Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know it was also Jehovah's Witnes

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread Share Long
I didn't think that about empty. It was simply my intro into my story. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know it was also Jehovah's Witnesses. But you weren't aware that fundament

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread authfriend
Because you thought he thought it was just Catholics and wanted him to know it was also Jehovah's Witnesses. But you weren't aware that fundamentalist Christians (Protestants) generally, not just Jehovah's Witnesses, think TM is of the devil. Share wrote: > Judy, indeed emptybill is very kn

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, indeed emptybill is very knowledgeable. I was launching into my experience with that sentence. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:10 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Share wrote: > emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM. No kidding!! Boy, I bet

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread authfriend
Share wrote: > emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM. No kidding!! Boy, I bet emptybill will be surprised to learn this. Actually Protestant fundamentalist Christians generally, not just Jehovah's Witnesses, think TM is the work of the devil.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-17 Thread Share Long
emptybill, it's not only the Roman Catholic Church that thinks this of TM. Back in the 80s some Jehovah Witnesses told me that TM is "the work of the devil," that "it says so in the Bible." I asked if the Bible actually used the phrase Transcendental Meditation. They admitted that it didn't but