"As I've said before, IMO 'irony' is a tactic used primarily by people without balls who want to be able to tell the truth, but then deny that they said it later, claiming that they were 'only being ironic.'" - Apr 3, 2013, some FFLer or another
--- In [email protected], wrote: > > Share wrote: > > > Judy, I'm not 100% convinced that the Bible is God's word completely > > devoid of human interpretation. > > You aren't!? That's just appalling. > > > OTOH maybe God does want to enslave us, but only out of pure Love. > > No, no. God obviously hated Adam and Eve because they disobeyed him. He gave them free will, and they threw it back in his face. He wasn't about to forgive their descendants, so he destroyed all of them except Noah and his family, then lied again by sending the dove and the rainbow, and then later by sending Jesus and pretending Jesus was going to save them. Well, we know what happened to Jesus, don't we? > > Share wrote: > > > Seraphita, I could see that the serpent could also be a symbol of kundalini, an > > essential concept from another religion. It's not that God wants to enslave us. > > It's that people with certain ideas about God want to enslave us. They want us > > to believe their ideas rather than the ideas of other religions. To give them > > their due, they probably think their ideas are right and that they're doing > > unbelievers a favor. > > That's so naive, Share. You are not seeing clearly. Obviously God does want to enslave us. As Seraphita pointed out, he lied to Adam and Eve. I mean, we have his words right there in English, so we know there can be no other interpretation of what he said. > > Anybody who supports a God who lied to his very first human creations cannot possibly have the interests of human beings at heart. They know the ideas they promote are wrong and evil. Let's not mislead folks by pretending such people have good intentions. > > Seraphita wrote: > > Re "And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat; But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Genesis 2:16-17). ": > > Precisely! Man didn't die so God was telling porkies! (Spare me the bollocks of saying man dying "spiritually".) > > The early Gnostics were right in seeing the Serpent as the true friend of mankind. The Serpent wanted us to see that we are immortal (we're *really* the One Self - "Christ Consciousness") but "God" wants us to remain slaves. Of course, we're using mythological language here, but the God of present-day Christians still doesn't want people to become seers - ie, those who see clearly. >
