[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > > > The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be > > > > > > referring to is the kind that you can photograph and > > > > > > perform > > > > > > before a skeptical audience. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where, > > > > > after 30 years o

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, car

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson were saying he > > had *witnessed* true levitation, then we'd be comparing > > apples to apple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Estimating the economic benefits of vaccination

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ERRATA: > > 'fly' should (of course) be 'flu' > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I suppose there's another upside of it - if the fly hit such a > > society

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Woodyness? > Better stop whatever it is you are doing. > I mean, like, morning wood. But perhaps you actually understood my ad hoc "word" the way I meant it to be grasped? But I doubt that, and it's all my fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yawn. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rasa Von Werder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Rasa Von Werder > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/ > > > > Oct. 15, 2005 > > Part I - What

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread mcjrich
one more to add to your list of gone to the light mother divine: Dr. Ana Alvarez, Raja Jose Luis's sister. They are very much missed by their friends and family. They all are beautiful souls. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "andrasayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nat is very much aliv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Karen Blazedale

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As was posted some time ago...Karen rising out of the > MIU pool in Goleta...a celestial Apsarasa manifesting > from the ocean of consciousness...even Shiva took a > peek. Me standing right beside him appreciating the view.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm talking about events like the New York City > > Marathon that all kinds of ordinary people run > > in, BTW--people who have regular

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/15/05 10:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe none ofthem are attempting to beat the > > world record. The olympic level athletes reportedly have at least > > short-term h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread sallysunshine01
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few more come to mind > > Andy Kaufman -- mouth cancer ? > Karen Blassdale -- brain tumor > Jane Prouty -- asfixiation (co heater) > Steve Shimmer -- ? was recently posted > Kent Ketterhoffen (sp) was posted a bit ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying > > > something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a > > > theoretical way that someone who believes in something > > > could use to convince someon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread sallysunshine01
Also, not to beat a tired horse ( I know this topic has sort of died out, no pun intended) but does anyone remember a lady named Dawn Golden? I think she died of cancer and was only in her late 20s or early 30s. This was quite a while ago, sometime in the 80s. Also, someone named Randy,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
Dawn was a student with me at MIU in the mid 70's. She died very early on while in her late 20's. Like 26 or 27. Everybody was shocked...we wern't supposed to die of such ignorant things like cancer!. What a bunch of dopes we were. --- sallysunshine01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, not to bea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson wer

[FairfieldLife] The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread Vaj
Ironic that probably the most quoted Buddhist text by the TMO contains warnings on declaring enlightenment...or "unenlightenment" as it were... The section on the Fifty Demonic States: http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html Also an enlightened commentary by Sri Bevan Morris, ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying > > > > something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karen Blazedale

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/16/05 5:58 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As was posted some time ago...Karen rising out of the >> MIU pool in Goleta...a celestial Apsarasa manifesting >> from the ocean of consciousness...even Shiva

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Estimating the economic benefits of vaccination

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/16/05 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> ERRATA: >> >> 'fly' should (of course) be 'flu' >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> I s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > No, we're talking about a definition of, or criteria > > for, real levitation. *You* brought up the notion of > > "proof" for the pur

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > If you haven't read Dr. Robert Svoboda's books, especially the > > "Aghora/Kundalini" three part series I would suggest he is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you let me know your e-mail address I might send > you an e-mail trying to describe it. I read FFL on > the web site. With shukra's post on your screen, look at the top right, just below and to the left of the Rep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Estimating the economic benefits of vaccination

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you check the URL above, you find 3or 4 articles. The magazine > cover had "The Next Pandemic" as the headline, and there were a > series of articles, plus an introduction explaining why the editors > of Foreign Aff

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If you let me know your e-mail address I might send > > you an e-mail trying to describe it. I read FFL on > > the web site. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are these signs of?

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > If you let me know your e-mail a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sallysunshine01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A few more come to mind > > > > Andy Kaufman -- mouth cancer ? Andy died of lung cancer and he was a non-smoker. > Steve Shim

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
Diana (Munson) Schultz, Billy Shultz's wife was recently diagnosed with inoperable liver cancer. Untreatable according to her Western doctors. Dean Draznin here in Fairfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is coordinating the collection of donations to help fund her pursuit of alternative treatments. Billy and

[FairfieldLife] Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread Bhairitu
An Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that 70% of Americans feel that people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. I certainly notice it. Does anyone else? Of course meditating folks are never rude are they? ;-) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-10-14-rude-amercians-poll_x.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that 70% of Americans feel that > people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. Has there ever, in the history of polling, been a poll in which a majority of Americans felt peo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "sallysunshine01" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > A few more come to mind > > > > > > Andy Kaufman -- mouth cancer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friend Sam died of morbid obesity. He weighed 650 pounds. I know the concept of "spreading the wealth" among the world's population will never fly. But I've often thought that some movement to "share the pounds"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Dear friend Sam died of morbid obesity. He weighed 650 pounds. > > I know the concept of "spreading the wealth" among th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karen Blazedale

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 10/16/05 5:58 AM, TurquoiseB at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> As was posted some time ago...Karen rising out of > the > >> MIU pool in Goleta...a celestial Apsa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that 70% of Americans feel that > people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. I certainly notice How fortunate that we have a poll to point this out. I mean "Duh" I know

[FairfieldLife] The Republican War on Science

2005-10-16 Thread jiva jivazz
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread Bhairitu
Maybe, but then they would just answer no. authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>An Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that 70% of Americans feel that >>people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. >> >> > >Has there ever,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe, but then they would just answer no. Uh, not if they answered yes, Barry. > authfriend wrote: > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > >>An Associated Press-Ipsos poll show

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sam Mcilhenny, who was somewhere in his late > > forties > > > > Dear friend Sam died of morbid obesity. He weighed > > 650 pounds. > > Sam was up to 650lbs? Yikes! I was thinking of Sam > yesterday when I put some taba

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dawn was a student with me at MIU in the mid 70's. She > died very early on while in her late 20's. Like 26 or > 27. Everybody was shocked...we wern't supposed to die > of such ignorant things like cancer!. What a bunch of >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ironic that probably the most quoted Buddhist text by the TMO > contains warnings on declaring enlightenment...or "unenlightenment" > as it were... > > The section on the Fifty Demonic States: > > http://homepage.mac.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proclaiming ones enlightenment

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...mucho snipt...] > > No, we're talking about a definition of, or criteria > > for, real levitation. *You* brought up the notion of > > "proo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Estimating the economic benefits of vaccination

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you check the URL above, you find 3or 4 articles. The magazine > > cover had "The Next Pandemic" as the headline, and there were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Maybe, but then they would just answer no. >> >> > >Uh, not if they answered yes, Barry. > > > Do you really think they've gotten politer? I don't. I think most would agree. >>authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Karen Blazedale

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/16/05 4:34 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> That's right. She dated Elvis for a while. Spoke >> very highly of him. > > Did Karen ever marry her longtime boyfriend? He was a > line producer at CBS, I believe. I don't know. I remember hearing that Karen was an M-Group initiator a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread Vaj
On Oct 16, 2005, at 8:16 PM, sparaig wrote: > Quick: how do you know that Bevan is NOT enlightened? Dunno, I give up. How? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Americans Ruder These Days?

2005-10-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > authfriend wrote: > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >>Maybe, but then they would just answer no. > > > >Uh, not if they answered yes, Barry. > > > Do you really think th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sam Mcilhenny, who was somewhere in his late > > > forties > > > > > > Dear friend Sam died of morbid obesity. He > weighed > > > 650 pounds. > > > > Sam was up to 6

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 16, 2005, at 8:16 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Quick: how do you know that Bevan is NOT enlightened? > > Dunno, I give up. How? > Just wondering why everyone assumes that he isn't... Yah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/16/05 9:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2005, at 8:16 PM, sparaig wrote: >> >>> Quick: how do you know that Bevan is NOT enlightened? >> >> Dunno, I give up. How? >> > > Just wondering

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 10/16/05 9:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Oct 16, 2005, at 8:16 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> > >>> Quick: how d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Untimely Deaths

2005-10-16 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sallysunshine01" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > A few more come to mind > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/16/05 9:47 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Just wondering why everyone assumes that he isn't... >> >> It's the old "is behavior correlated with level of consciousness" > issue. He >> behaves in ways that clash with "almost everyone's" concept of how > an >> enlightened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Shurangama Sutra and TMer's Proclaiming their enlightenment.

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2005, at 8:16 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Quick: how do you know that Bevan is NOT > enlightened? > > Dunno, I give up. How? Bevan is enlightened. I know it's true because an initiator told me. > > > > Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Michael Dean Goodman and Dr. Pete

2005-10-16 Thread Peter
Ran into Michael Dean Goodman at my local drum circle on Saturday in Florida. He's been down here for the last year and a half taking care of his mom. He plays a mean djembe. __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. h

RE: [FairfieldLife] Michael Dean Goodman and Dr. Pete

2005-10-16 Thread Rick Archer
  Ran into Michael Dean Goodman at my local drum circle on Saturday in Florida. He's been down here for the last year and a half taking care of his mom. He plays a mean djembe.   Cool. Wish I could have been there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Dean Goodman and Dr. Pete

2005-10-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ran into Michael Dean Goodman at my local drum circle > on Saturday in Florida. He's been down here for the > last year and a half taking care of his mom. He plays > a mean djembe. > I gather that means he's a swell djembe