[FairfieldLife] Wannabee Hindus, Wannabee Westerners

Classic article from Cracked.com that sorta explains the whole TM movement in a nutshell, followed by an illustration of the same phenomenon in India: http://www.cracked.com/article_18821_5-examples-americans-thinking-forei\ gn-people-are-magic.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wannabee Hindus, Wannabee Westerners

Oh Turk you have made me come out of my lurk mode - OMG what cute white girls !!! On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:32 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > Classic article from Cracked.com that sorta explains the whole TM movement in > a nutshell, followed by an illustration of the same phenomenon in India: > > http:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay there. Last week I got a tour of the Fermilab collider from a friend who is a career physicist there at the facility. They'll use circumstance that will suggest or describe something and they are able to then look furthe

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Its kind of paradoxical, and fucked up and sad too, that Buddha was such a > great figure - Even looking at his form, enlivens our dignity and inner peace > - yet, somehow his truth has become lost, other than that simple > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > As to the various flavours of those who believe in various > > interpretations of reality, I recall reading a comment on > > atheism somewhere t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay > there. Last week I got a tour of the Fermilab collider from a friend who is a > career physicist there at the facility. They'll use circumstance that will > su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > > > > As to the various flavours of those who believe in various > > > inter

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Most of us are well aware that Maharishi in his > later days didn't live up to what he was like in the > "glory days of the TMO." Now, now, wait Judy, what happened? That's a new tone from you. Could you elaborate? You are not referri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: > > 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in > his mind); > > 2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders; Since TM mantras are for householders, are ther

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > All I know is this: > > I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get > dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I believe > MMY was brilliant at was to appeal to others like me, those n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > All I know is this: > > > > I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get > > dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: > > > > 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if > > there are any, in his mind); > > > > 2) he deemed them to be suit

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > I have no idea if floating due to the Yogic Flying (or any other mental > > technique) is possible, but you should understand that "law of nature" in > > science

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: > > > > > > 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > I think a little balance is in order, and hope to > provide some from time to time. If my doing so > occasionally causes people to act like the cultists > they are and go all reactive and paranoid and nasty > trying to demonize me, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > You have been hitting some of these atheist posts out of the park man. Still the best comments on the believer/atheist thang: [http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/92350_whatgodlookslikeboth.jpg]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

I'm still trying to understand how someone 67 or 68 could call 38 yr old Russell Brand old as f**k.  Only turq didn't use asterisks (-: From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to navashok

Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann.  Even when I was growing up, I played sports and was into Catholicism.  And both these proclivities, love of activity and love of spirituality have continued throughout my life.  That is, the BOTH are natural to me.  To paraphrase Xeno, at so

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

Thanks Judy! great quotes - I particularly like the first one, about expanding our notions of what human beings are capable of. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > Well, as cool as flying would no doubt be I t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

Easy - Turq is no longer, "old as f*ck". He has advanced to his next step, rotting.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > I'm still trying to understand how someone 67 or 68 could call 38 yr old > Russell Brand old as f**k.  Only turq didn't use asterisks (-: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > Steve, with all the "TM cheerleading" going down, > I just thought it would be useful for someone to > interject a little reality about the person so many > are trying to portray as so saintly and enlightened. > People KNOW how he spent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

"With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is more than evident in your posts" Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as you age. Both my father in law at 86, and my dear departed father, at 89, have and had far more flexible and o

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

I think one flaw in your argument, Michael, is that you are choosing to seperate out a group of individual with whom you have had negative experiences, or negative perceptions and basing your conclusions based on that group. I know many long term practicioners who display a completely different s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to >Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine programs, and >thus chose to effectively becomes monks or recluses, >were they re-initiated using a more "appropriate" >recluse mantra? I wasn't on

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

LOL Yeah I don't recall ever seeing the questionnaire, either. Funny how atheists always let you know that they are, too, as if rank ignorance is now a badge of pride. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from > > my point of view, falling prey to one of the most > > chronic TM fallacies. People repeat stuff they were > > TOLD

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wannabee Hindus, Wannabee Westerners

Ha ha ha! And I am drawn to the Indian ladies!!! (its true) From: Ravi Chivukula To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wannabee Hindus, Wannabee Westerners   Oh Turk you have made me come

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

a key that opens the Universe!?!?!?! Buck, show me the sidhas and governors who are making the Universe accede to their whims and I will come back to the Domes From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:13 AM Subject: [Fair

[FairfieldLife] Nancy Cooke de Herrera

LOS ANGELES — Pioneering meditation teacher Nancy Cooke de Herrera has died. She was 90. Maria Luisa de Herrera says her mother died Feb. 28. Madonna, Sheryl Crow, Judd Apatow and Paula Abdul were among the students who learned Transcendental Meditation techniques at de Herrera's home in Beverl

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > (snip) > > Steve, with all the "TM cheerleading" going down, > > I just thought it would be useful for someone to > > interject a little reality about the person so many > > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wannabee Hindus, Wannabee Westerners

Hahaha, I love Ravi! You find you one, dear! Beautiful one liner. Michael Jackson's line too. hahaha. This must explain the hormonal fixation with rap or hip hop music and country white boys and girls and the crossover dreams of reality, and the rest of the family says... WTF? Got a bit of m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

Really? I had not heard of Marshy giving out "ram" as the original TM mantra before - that is interesting. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

Thanks Buck - I enjoyed your post. Yep, it is a big world out there/in here, and getting bigger all the time! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > What you posit here is the skeptic PoV . That is okay if you want to stay > there. Last week I got a tour of the Fermilab collid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from > > > my point of view, falling prey to one of the m

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

Speaking of nursing homes, the thing most counter-intuitive about my experience, was that it was the younger ones who were senile. Those who had lived their lives in denial of whatever, until Grace gives them what they have wished for, a loss of time, space, and memory of this world. Mental dis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized about TM, *since you don't do it*, is that the practice keeps you moving. TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You hav

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

I base my statements not only on my personal experiences but on the collective experiences of many many TM meditators who have had similar experiences with long term TM'ers who work for the Movement - how anyone can continue to praise TM while seeing and experiencing the behavior of the TMO peop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > All MMY claimed about TM man

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

"how anyone can continue to praise TM while seeing and experiencing the behavior of the TMO people is beyond me". That is like saying, after visiting the Ford Motor Company and talking to that jerky CEO, I don't see how anyone can like their cars. I think what you meant to say was that you didn

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

I agree with just about everything you say here, except that Marshy had no guru competition, there were a bunch of 'em  (http://www.pluralism.org/ocg/CDROM_files/hinduism/rush_of_gurus.php) What they didn't have that Marshy DID have was the tremendous flood of free publicity he received from hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

"A poignant example of this, related to me by at least half a different spiritual teachers from traditions other than TM..." *How* many??

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took me that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me. From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:04 AM Sub

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > the hell they aren't - the energy that Marshy created the Movement has ALWAYS > shown itself in the behavior it leaders have exhibited - no free passes on > the basis of "Oh, the technique is gd! but the people who have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to navashok

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann.  Even when I was > growing up, I played sports and was into Catholicism.  And both these > proclivities, love of activity and love of spirituality have continued > throughout my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

Doc, I was having a very similar thought in the Dome this morning:  that people who stopped doing TM and TMSP long ago have no idea, even more importantly, no experience of what the long term effects are.  And they can be very difficult to describe.  AND I'm guessing that it has something to do

[FairfieldLife] Awesome dance number

When I saw this posted by a friend, my first question when I read the title of the page was, "What's a b-girl?" Then I watched the video and now I don't have to ask. Raunchy, you've just got to show this to your grand- daughter the gymnist. She could learn some moves from this dancer. Oh, she's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

I agree, seekliberation:  nobody owes us anything.  Least of all a spiritual teacher or a spiritual path.  Meaning IMO that a spiritual teacher doesn't owe it to us to be any certain way that makes us feel comfy.  Paraphrasing Adyashanti who says that humans have 2 impulses, one for comfort and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

Yes, I see how you and others can see that I am saying and it may not seem logical, but that is not exactly what I am saying. What I am saying is that IF TM is as superlative as it is advertised to be, that IF it repeatedly clears the nervous system, mind and emotions of stress, and infuses the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Most of us are well aware that Maharishi in his > > later days didn't live up to what he was like in the > > "glory days of the TMO." > > Now, now, wait Judy, what happened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Doc, I was having a very similar thought in the Dome this morning:  that > people who stopped doing TM and TMSP long ago have no idea, even more > importantly, no experience of what the long term effects are. Not so true. Many of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to navashok

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Hi navashok, I appreciate the points you make to Ann. Even when I was growing up, I played sports and was into Catholicism. And both these proclivities, love of activity and love of spirituality have continued throughout my life. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

Thank you, Navashok! You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my opinion, the fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the idea that the meaningless sound theory of the mantras is nonsense and that as you said the entire checking procedure is a form of auto-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Ann

Right, I think Michael mentioned 20 years.  But I'm referring to people I know who have generally been at it for over 35 years.  From my own experience and the experience of my long term friends, those years of practice add up exponentially.  In other words, there's a noticeable difference in 20

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: But you gotta wonder why the behavior of arrogance, elitism, entitlement, mis-use of others, incompetence and more is so prevalent among long time TM leaders and managers. Well they sacked you didn't they. That shows competence, IM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > you are an idiot - And you're our FFL bully. What will happen to you is the same as what happens to all bullies in time, the are left empty-handed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

Dear Micheal, it could be a lot helpful to a lot of people and even the world if you should bring this up within dialogue with bevan and the president's office directly. In the Dome recently there was a poster communicating that Bevan should like to hear from our people and gave his e-mail addr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael

There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP.  I know of people who have had it.  Does that change your idea that the mantra theory is nonsense?  Speaking as someone who has done therapy and energy work over the years, including EFT tapping, I would say this:  TM is necessary for emotional and ene

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Easy - Turq is no longer, "old as f*ck". He has advanced to his next step, > rotting.:-) That's right, his posts do have a certain odour :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > I'm still tryi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

yeah, because I had allergies - real class act, that! From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ja

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

I guess it escapes your notice that you assert your POV as the only *valid* POV, seemingly ignoring that others may have had different experiences and come to different conclusions. I mean your fist sentence makes sense. - that is, *your* personal experience. But then you proceed to, what has bec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > "With old age comes inflexibility and the loss of mental agility which is > more than evident in your posts" > > Actually, I think you must *work* on closing your mind, to have that occur as > you age. Both my father in law at

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Dear Micheal, snip.. You seem quite reasonable in your way. There hasn't been a less reasonable and more bitter soul here since Vaj graced us with his presence.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

That's quite an insight regarding 'tricking our ego'. I remember Das Goravani explaining the importance of ego, despite its contradiction to spirituality. If you are a young soul, undeveloped and inexperienced, it is much better to have an enormous ego. It is your ego that impels you to ident

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

On 03/06/2013 05:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from my point of vie

[FairfieldLife] falsifiability in science

My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the concept of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it to me in some way different than, say, what Wikipedia has to say about it? (I've already read Wikipedia and came out as confused as ever on this topic.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hugo Chavez Is Near Death

On 03/05/2013 08:03 PM, seventhray27 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 03/01/2013 12:28 PM, John wrote: >>> He wanted to play a powerful role of the politics in South America. > It appears that destiny has other plans for him. >>> http://news.yahoo.com/hugo-ch-

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal experiences of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own direct experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've had any differently just because a small select group behaves in ways I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok

Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP.  I know people who have had it. Rick, maybe I don't get booted because I'm not a gov.  Even when I was a grad student and open about going to tantric workshops of David Deida, no one said anything to me.  EFT tapping is based on acupunct

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Thank you, Navashok! > > You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my opinion, the fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the idea that the meaningless sound theory of the mantras is nonsense and

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote: > > My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the > concept of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it to > me in some way different than, say, what Wikipedia has to say about it? (I've > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote: > > > > My undergraduate degree is in philosophy but I can't seem to grasp the > > concept of FALSIFIABILITY, and why it is important. Can anyone explain it > > to me in some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

Another expression I enjoy for this sort of person is, "armchair quarterback", aka, "armchair general". No expertise, except the capacity to sit on their rear-ends and make stuff up they don't like, about stuff they know nothing about. Not exactly mature behavior. Yes, with practice, TMSP leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/physical integration. Catchy little soundbite, but what does it actually mean?

[FairfieldLife] Running through walls [was Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders]

You blew it - There is a phenomenon you've probably heard of in long distance running, called, "hitting the wall". It means reaching a point of physical depletion, after 15 or so miles, so that the only thing carrying you forward is your knowledge that it is a temporary phase, that can be transc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter distance in general between desire, and fulfillment of same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > Yes, with practice, TMSP l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/ > > > physical integration. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Yes, I see how you and others can see that I am saying and it may not seem > logical, but that is not exactly what I am saying. Topics to be added to the FFL list of what people on this list are concerned about: Early Senilit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter > distance in general between desire, and fulfillment of same. And how does one go about measuring it? Or is it one of the many promises I came across in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > Actually I think it's proof that TM is not a cult, the fact that someone like > me goes to the Dome every day twice a day and wisely seeks out whatever > healing modalities I think I need. > > > > I don’t know about current

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote: > > Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal > experiences of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own > direct experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've had > any

[FairfieldLife] Running through walls [was Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > You blew it - There is a phenomenon you've probably heard of in long distance > running, called, "hitting the wall". It means reaching a point of physical > depletion, after 15 or so miles, so that the only thing carrying you f

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Sharalyn" wrote: > > Why shoot the messenger? The TMO is not responsible for my personal > experiences of significant benefits gained from the practice of TM. If my own > direct experience has been positive, why should I judge the results I've had > any

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

Maybe it's the concept of testability that I was not getting. Does falsifiability mean then that one condenses a theory into a more concise form, to take it from a generalized (and therefore unprovable) form to a form which can be tested, such as "Meditation produces good results" (too generaliz

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo&feature=youtu.be

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

The key is being able to answer the question: " Is there a test even in principle, that could show that the theory is false?". It often involves making the claim more precise. But even your second example: The brain waves of students practicing TM show increased coherence, might be unfalsifiab

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

On 03/06/2013 01:35 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > The key is being able to answer the question: " Is there a test even in > principle, that could show that the theory is false?". It often involves > making the claim more precise. But even your second example: The brain waves > of students prac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science to Sharalyn

It means that the scientist uses operational definitions.  For example, if testing the hypothesis that TM increases IQ the scientist might operationally define an increase in  IQ as higher test scores on a standardized IQ test, taken once before practicing TM and once after practicing TM twice a

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[FairfieldLife] Isn't It Wednesday?

Just because it is Wednesday, Share's day, I post this for her (What is the plural for two small mooses? Meece, I guess. 'Moose' just sounds too grown up.): [Young Moose ♥ Visit our Page -► Most Adorable Pictures ◄- For more pics]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP.  Okay Share, just to let you know that I have seen this. I'm going out of town tomorrow, so will be back only next week, and still have to pack, and no, I am not going to Pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch website mistake

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/message.html > > Look at the caption under the photo. In my browser Firefox and Chrome, only "Elephant Man, Wild at Heart, Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Straight Story, Mulholland Drive, and INL

[FairfieldLife] Re: falsifiability in science

I especially enjoyed the third video. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6TNCbXxVyY > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9S-yXR9l1E > > > http://www

[FairfieldLife] Running through walls [was Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders]

Ha-Ha! Why, did you quit TM prematurely too?? My take on stuff I quit, is that I quit. I definitely don't continue to dig at it, if I am no longer participating. I would never start an argument with someone, arguing against something they did, when I didn't. How incredibly dense. So, yeah, I don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

No - don't BS yourself. It is simply a relative measurement of how well your desires have been fulfilled in the past, vs. now. If mind/body coordination is increasing, then YF is working, and desires are fulfilled more quickly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc

Man, you have a very, very poor memory, Turq (as if that's a surprise). My insistence on my enlightenment, CC at the time, was as a demonstration that enlightenment was possible for anyone, and not the pie in the sky unobtainable state that you and your now absent fair weather friends insisted u

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) > > And if you are interested in challenging their supposed > > truth or value. In my experience, it's these "core" or > > *never challenged* beliefs that persist the longest, and > > are toughest to either recognize or challenge. Stuf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-"Mantra and caste according to the individual's Jyotish

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > the mantras the Chopra meditation instructors give are chosen by jyotish > chart, so his assertion that it couldn't be done in his lifetime was a lie. this shows how dishonest YOU are, you have not demonstated any lie on Maharish

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