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2013-10-12 Thread Michael Jackson
-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas. On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators

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2013-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby

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2013-10-12 Thread Michael Jackson
: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM    Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work

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2013-10-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read

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2013-10-12 Thread doctordumbass
it was a different article - the one about wealthy people being less empathetic and considerate, when faced with the problems of others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In

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2013-10-12 Thread authfriend
Buck wrote: MJ, those Raja guidelines were once published and hashed out on FFL before your time here. They were in notes that Kingsley Brooks had from a meeting delineating how Rajas should be conducting themselves. Their guidelines were in the archive here but given the way nemo has no

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2013-10-12 Thread authfriend
Emily wrote: What cracked me up about all this was that the article Share apparently only read the title of was by Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence she considers a classic. LOL. That is hilarious. I never noticed. Excellent way to start the day, with a belly laugh!

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2013-10-12 Thread authfriend
No, that's the one Buck cited, the one by Goleman in the NYTimes. Emily's quite right. DoctorDumbass wrote: it was a different article - the one about wealthy people being less empathetic and considerate, when faced with the problems of others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

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2013-10-11 Thread Michael Jackson
And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:   “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to

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2013-10-11 Thread Mike Dixon
has directly had interaction with. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators    You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who

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2013-10-11 Thread Michael Jackson
and that was the kind of mentality they got from Marshy - ignore it if you like On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:    You know,

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2013-10-11 Thread s3raphita
Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:   Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also.

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:07 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:    Jeez, did

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2013-10-11 Thread judy stein
Share wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I suspect you're the only person here who thought this is what Buck was saying. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! You didn't

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty.

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2013-10-11 Thread judy stein
Share wrote: Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. LOL. You're the only person who used the word you're objecting to, Share. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. Which are, of

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:25 AM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share

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2013-10-11 Thread dhamiltony2k5
A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate? ---In

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2013-10-11 Thread Bhairitu
To free non-TM meditation workshops which take place over a weekend. The TM method of teaching is retro 1970s when people did things in the evenings. On 10/11/2013 10:44 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average

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2013-10-11 Thread rajawilliamsmith
The Rajas mostly are just educational Rajas. One of my plans was the coupon concept which Maharishi liked so much, which I first thought of when I was about 12-13 years old. Maybe if I got my weight in gold , it would workout better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

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2013-10-11 Thread judy stein
Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Only to airheads like you, Share. Seriously, you've lived on this earth for 65 years and never noticed that you have to read at least some of an article or

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. On Friday, October 11, 2013 1:10 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich

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2013-10-11 Thread judy stein
Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. Well, of course you are. You'd last about ten minutes if you were me, because I don't hide from reality.

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2013-10-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! On Friday, October 11, 2013 4:30 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths

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2013-10-11 Thread judy stein
Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.

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2013-10-11 Thread emilymaenot
What cracked me up about all this was that the article Share apparently only read the title of was by Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence she considers a classic. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I

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2013-10-11 Thread emilymaenot
Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various

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2013-10-11 Thread emilymaenot
O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In

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2013-10-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
“Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening