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Now I find this interesting - I had never heard that M told the Rajas not to mix with others. Not that I doubt your word, but what is the provenance of that info? Did he tell 'em just not to do program with non-rajas, or not to socialize or what? From non-meditators to non-initiators to non-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas. On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.:Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power
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MJ, those Raja guidelines were once published and hashed out on FFL before your time here. They were in notes that Kingsley Brooks had from a meeting delineating how Rajas should be conducting themselves. Their guidelines were in the archive here but given the way nemo has no good search tool it would be difficult to procure them now from FFL. In fact that last time I looked I sensed that the legal department had it removed from FFL as private correspondence. It was a really good archival communication from a time that ought to be preserved somewhere. But in keeping with a theme of this thread, it just spoke to the tendency for the movement rich to insulate themselves from the larger community anyway; like move to be with themselves in Boone, Jacksonville, Jackson Hole, Vlodrop or California neighborhoods. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now I find this interesting - I had never heard that M told the Rajas not to mix with others. Not that I doubt your word, but what is the provenance of that info? Did he tell 'em just not to do program with non-rajas, or not to socialize or what? From non-meditators to non-initiators to non-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas. On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.:Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between
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so that brings up a couple questions - do you remember exactly what they were told - I mean was it to not live with or socialize with those of lower ranks? and I have never heard of a raja deal in Jackson Hole - is there a meditator community there now? On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:06 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: MJ, those Raja guidelines were once published and hashed out on FFL before your time here. They were in notes that Kingsley Brooks had from a meeting delineating how Rajas should be conducting themselves. Their guidelines were in the archive here but given the way nemo has no good search tool it would be difficult to procure them now from FFL. In fact that last time I looked I sensed that the legal department had it removed from FFL as private correspondence. It was a really good archival communication from a time that ought to be preserved somewhere. But in keeping with a theme of this thread, it just spoke to the tendency for the movement rich to insulate themselves from the larger community anyway; like move to be with themselves in Boone, Jacksonville, Jackson Hole, Vlodrop or California neighborhoods. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now I find this interesting - I had never heard that M told the Rajas not to mix with others. Not that I doubt your word, but what is the provenance of that info? Did he tell 'em just not to do program with non-rajas, or not to socialize or what? From non-meditators to non-initiators to non-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas. On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.:Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf
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It is interesting. There was an exodus of upper-middle-class meditators in the 1990's and through the 00's as it became apparent that the work of the movement then was mostly about liberating money from them as a class. Many of them have moved back now because they did not find community out in those trendy places of other wealthy people. The larger meditating community of Fairfield as community' is an especially nice place. It seems people are coming back from out there arriving everyday and the remark they frequently make is about the coming back to community. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: so that brings up a couple questions - do you remember exactly what they were told - I mean was it to not live with or socialize with those of lower ranks? and I have never heard of a raja deal in Jackson Hole - is there a meditator community there now? On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:06 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: MJ, those Raja guidelines were once published and hashed out on FFL before your time here. They were in notes that Kingsley Brooks had from a meeting delineating how Rajas should be conducting themselves. Their guidelines were in the archive here but given the way nemo has no good search tool it would be difficult to procure them now from FFL. In fact that last time I looked I sensed that the legal department had it removed from FFL as private correspondence. It was a really good archival communication from a time that ought to be preserved somewhere. But in keeping with a theme of this thread, it just spoke to the tendency for the movement rich to insulate themselves from the larger community anyway; like move to be with themselves in Boone, Jacksonville, Jackson Hole, Vlodrop or California neighborhoods. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now I find this interesting - I had never heard that M told the Rajas not to mix with others. Not that I doubt your word, but what is the provenance of that info? Did he tell 'em just not to do program with non-rajas, or not to socialize or what? From non-meditators to non-initiators to non-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas. On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 4:06 PM Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement.-Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.:Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment
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it was a different article - the one about wealthy people being less empathetic and considerate, when faced with the problems of others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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Buck wrote: MJ, those Raja guidelines were once published and hashed out on FFL before your time here. They were in notes that Kingsley Brooks had from a meeting delineating how Rajas should be conducting themselves. Their guidelines were in the archive here but given the way nemo has no good search tool it would be difficult to procure them now from FFL. This what you're referring to? http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/264038 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/264038 I just searched for Kingsley Brooks. (Vaj found it on Wikileaks, BTW.) In fact that last time I looked I sensed that the legal department had it removed from FFL as private correspondence. Yahoo's legal department? Why would they care? It was a really good archival communication from a time that ought to be preserved somewhere. But in keeping with a theme of this thread, it just spoke to the tendency for the movement rich to insulate themselves from the larger community anyway; like move to be with themselves in Boone, Jacksonville, Jackson Hole, Vlodrop or California neighborhoods. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Now I find this interesting - I had never heard that M told the Rajas not to mix with others. Not that I doubt your word, but what is the provenance of that info? Did he tell 'em just not to do program with non-rajas, or not to socialize or what? From non-meditators to non-initiators to non-governors and who would-a thunk it, even the governors have become nons as non-rajas.
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Emily wrote: What cracked me up about all this was that the article Share apparently only read the title of was by Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence she considers a classic. LOL. That is hilarious. I never noticed. Excellent way to start the day, with a belly laugh!
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No, that's the one Buck cited, the one by Goleman in the NYTimes. Emily's quite right. DoctorDumbass wrote: it was a different article - the one about wealthy people being less empathetic and considerate, when faced with the problems of others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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and that was the kind of mentality they got from Marshy - ignore it if you like On Fri, 10/11/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 11, 2013, 3:14 PM Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:07 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Jeez, did you read the article? The science shows rich people to enclave and thereby they tend to lack empathy for other groups while others live and work in community and consequently tend to live with more empathy towards others. That simply is the elements of the TM movement community also. It just is. The TM-Rajas were told as part of their deal specifically to not mix with the rest of us. A very few have come to meditate in the Dome. But most do not. To themselves they aren't part of it really. Evidently there is a scientific problem there with themselves and it reflects in how they continue to price TM and the vigor of the larger TM meditation movement. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: yes, but I was talking about my own experience rather than research. Also Mark Twain comes to mind: all generalizations are false, including this one. On Friday, October 11, 2013 10:48 AM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re It's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more.: Yes, there's evidence showing that poor people are actually more generous with their money (proportionately) than the wealthy. In fact, one of the degrading aspects of poverty isn't so much that you don't have enough for yourself but that you can't help or, for that matter, entertain others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! On Friday, October 11, 2013 8:47 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Share wrote: Buck, it's not my experience that ALL rich people care less, nor that all poor people care more. I suspect you're the only person here who thought this is what Buck was saying. I think such generalizations cause more polarizing which is not IMO what is needed! You didn't bother to read the NYTimes column he cited, did you? (snip) http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 There's all kinds of research on this; it isn't just an idle generalization. I mean, we could always just stick our heads in the sand and pretend this empathy gap doesn't exist. But if we don't ackowledge that it exists, it'll just keep getting worse.
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They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Share wrote: Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. LOL. You're the only person who used the word you're objecting to, Share. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. Which are, of course, what Buck was referring to.
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To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:25 AM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: Buck, I'm objecting to the word ALL because I've known rich people who do care and poor people who don't. LOL. You're the only person who used the word you're objecting to, Share. And yes, I've read this article and recognize that there are the tendencies. Which are, of course, what Buck was referring to.
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A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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To free non-TM meditation workshops which take place over a weekend. The TM method of teaching is retro 1970s when people did things in the evenings. On 10/11/2013 10:44 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate?* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like,* *pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators,* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. * *We're talking working people. A living wage:* _http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers_ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “*Rich people just care less,”* *Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem.* *Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy.* *This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action.* “*Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them.* *These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” * http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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The Rajas mostly are just educational Rajas. One of my plans was the coupon concept which Maharishi liked so much, which I first thought of when I was about 12-13 years old. Maybe if I got my weight in gold , it would workout better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A year ago the only sector in the economy that was adding jobs was retail. Average for those jobs was $8.81 per hour for their average working day of six hours. Most working people work and live at or around poverty. Where do you send people to learn to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: They need to make it much easier to working people who look to start meditation. Like, pricing Transcendental Meditation to teach [More] meditators, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Look, the bottom 20 percent of people live under poverty. The next 20 percent of workers live just at or above poverty. The next third of workers live just above that. These all are of the working poor. At 60 percent of the work force we are only yet at the shrinking middle class, at people who could buy cars, buy houses, and educate their kids. Here in Jefferson County nearly a third of kids under 21 live in poverty. This is the reality and the TM-Raja hope for someone to walk in to TM palaces who will pay full freight. Slim chance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A day's wage for a working retail worker, about $55. TM charges $1,500 to learn meditation. Kind of embarrassing. We're talking working people. A living wage: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/12/221741963/d-c-mayor-vetos-living-wage-law-targeting-large-retailers ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Changes certainly can be made and it is time for the TM-Rajas in charge of the well-being of TM to make certain changes such that meditation should be much more widely taught. I just spoke with someone teaching at a Peace Palace in Chicago. Ditto elsewhere. They just are not teaching enough to once again become significant in culture again. Significance. The numbers being taught are a pittance and quite evidently the pricing is still an obstruction to any significant numbers learning TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
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Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Only to airheads like you, Share. Seriously, you've lived on this earth for 65 years and never noticed that you have to read at least some of an article or essay beyond the headline--which is typically just a few words--to know what it's about? Oh, wait, you said you DID read the article. So you know there was no such implication. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. Non sequitur. Remember, you're the only person who thought Buck was saying all rich people are uncaring--and he wasn't saying that, nor was anybody else. You've just made this up-- sneaky spin and harmful meme and all--in your head; it has no relationship to reality. You wanted to say something Important and Thoughtful, and as you so often do, you just babbled out the first thing that came to your mind without thinking it through. As a result, you said something Obvious and Dumb.
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Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. On Friday, October 11, 2013 1:10 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share wrote: To me a headline Rich People Could Care Less implies all rich people. It's kind of sneaky spin, creating a harmful meme. Only to airheads like you, Share. Seriously, you've lived on this earth for 65 years and never noticed that you have to read at least some of an article or essay beyond the headline--which is typically just a few words--to know what it's about? Oh, wait, you said you DID read the article. So you know there was no such implication. Are the rich people on FFL uncaring and lacking in empathy? I don't think so. Non sequitur. Remember, you're the only person who thought Buck was saying all rich people are uncaring--and he wasn't saying that, nor was anybody else. You've just made this up-- sneaky spin and harmful meme and all--in your head; it has no relationship to reality. You wanted to say something Important and Thoughtful, and as you so often do, you just babbled out the first thing that came to your mind without thinking it through. As a result, you said something Obvious and Dumb.
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Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. Well, of course you are. You'd last about ten minutes if you were me, because I don't hide from reality.
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Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! On Friday, October 11, 2013 4:30 PM, judy stein authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share bleated: Judy, airhead or not, I'm grateful to be me with all my strengths and flaws rather than you with all your strengths and flaws. Well, of course you are. You'd last about ten minutes if you were me, because I don't hide from reality.
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Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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What cracked me up about all this was that the article Share apparently only read the title of was by Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence she considers a classic. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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O.K. It works. Emily may not post often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Second try. What I found most amusing about this conversation was that the article Share only apparently read the title of was by Daniel Goleman. LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share feebles: Judy, if I were you, with your various imbalances and delusions, I'm sure I wouldn't want to last even as long as 10 minutes! LOL.
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“Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
