[FairfieldLife] Re: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: On the topic of religious rituals - and to take this thread even further away from Mani - were there ever any group ceremonies (puja) performed at the various HQs where Maharishi established himself in Switzerland and Holland? And did those

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread s3raphita
People should have taken a leaf out of John Lennon's book - respectful but not in awe of Maharishi. When Lennon first arrived at the Rishikesh ashram during an awkward silence Lennon walked across the room and patted Maharishi on the head, saying, There's a good little guru which broke the ice.

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread s3raphita
Since no one else seems to be willing to deal with this, I will. : Thanks - sounds intriguing. I wish someone had taken candid-camera footage for the rest of us to enjoy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread s3raphita
Maharishi explained that the invisibility technique wouldn't work because it could be used for bad purposes.: That's the Catch-22. Only ordinary folks would want the super powers but are excluded by their ordinariness; only advanced saints could develop the super powers but by then they

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread Share Long
Seraphita my understanding of the TMSP, especially yogic flying, is that their purpose is to develop mind body coordination. I think such integration is very healthy spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. I'm aware of what some spiritual teachers think of sidhis in general. But in

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
This thread is looking like it's headed for the outhouse. On 11/6/2013 10:10 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: You're all sounding like desiccated corpses drying in the desert. There is another type of Christian life here in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0M94z3Pev4 ---In

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-07 Thread sharelong60
Richard! Did you even look at the clip?! It's beautiful, not outhousy at all! Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This thread is looking like it's headed for the outhouse. On 11/6/2013 10:10 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: You're all

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-07 Thread s3raphita
On the topic of religious rituals - and to take this thread even further away from Mani - were there ever any group ceremonies (puja) performed at the various HQs where Maharishi established himself in Switzerland and Holland? And did those attending training courses as TM teachers ever

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-07 Thread s3raphita
Re I found the emphasis on devotion to the guru in the TM movement always disconcerting: What emphasis? Maharishi was never a guru - he was a teacher of meditation. The guru-shishya tradition is the transmission of teachings from a guru to a disciple. In this relationship, subtle and

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread emptybill
Share, Professor Troll is throwing out a fishing line to troll-in anyone who will bite. Don’t be a fish. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Richard, nobody else is gonna challenge you on this. Actually I'm not either. But it would be great if you could say more

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
It is said, Anyone who meditates with the aim of samadhi is a Buddhist. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Richard, nobody else is gonna challenge you on this. Actually I'm not either. But it would be great if you could say more about it. Seems

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread s3raphita
Re No. I responded to an earlier question from you about my religious leanings a week or so ago; did you miss it?: So you did. Sorry. Re You could say I'm sympathetic to religions generally; I've read a good bit of theology because it interests me, but that's about it.: Sounds like me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
Around here, if it looks like a Buddha, it's probably a Buddhist of some kind. MMY lived in the Himalayas with masters; MMY came out of the Himalayas and he looks like a Himalayan Master, so he is probably a Himalayan Master of some kind. Around here, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
If he lived in the Himalayas with yogis; and if he came out of the Himalayas looking like a yogi; and he talks and looks like a yogi; and they call him a yogi; then he must be a yogi of some kind. On 11/6/2013 9:00 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: It is said, Anyone who meditates with the

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread Share Long
Richard, it sounds like you're saying that anyone who is aspiring to be like Buddha is a Bhudhist. Would you also say that anyone who aspires to be like Christ is a Christian? If you are, it's kind of an interesting perspective on the whole thing. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:31 PM,

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread s3raphita
Re Then after starting TM I began to feel a need for a worship context and joined the church where I'd attended Sunday School, stayed a couple of years but wasn't inspired enough to continue, since I really wasn't into the Personal God aspect of the belief system (or Christ as savior). God as

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread emptybill
You're all sounding like desiccated corpses drying in the desert. There is another type of Christian life here in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0M94z3Pev4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0M94z3Pev4 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Seraphita wrote:

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-05 Thread s3raphita
Augustine of Hippo, who claimed to have been a dualistic Manichaen for ten years. The radical dualism of Manichaeism is evident in many Gnostic sects: Isn't the vulgar notion of Christianity held by most believers radically dualist? (Which isn't surprising as western Christianity flows from

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-05 Thread s3raphita
Should I assume that you are Roman Catholic? Or at least a fellow traveller? I understand Robin Carlsen became a Catholic convert - indeed a Catholic priest (?) after his adventures on the new-age circuit. Are you one of his former acolytes? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-05 Thread awoelflebater
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Seraphita wrote: Should I assume that you are Roman Catholic? Or at least a fellow traveller? No. I responded to an earlier question from you about my religious leanings a week or so ago; did you miss it? My family

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-04 Thread Share Long
Seraphita, would it be an error because Taoists believe that the Tao is always keeping good and evil in balance? And what is meant by a vulgar error? Seraphita wrote: The Yin and Yang concepts point to a Tao that includes the opposites. Imagining that one side of a pair of opposites could gain

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
We know mostly about Mani from The Dead Sea Scrolls, the Enochan literature and the writings of Augustine of Hippo, who claimed to have been a dualistic Manichaen for ten years. The radical dualism of Manichaeism is evident in many Gnostic sects but mainly in the Paulicans, Bogomils and the

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-04 Thread s3raphita
Seraphita, would it be an error because Taoists believe that the Tao is always keeping good and evil in balance? Yes And what is meant by a vulgar error? Simply that Lao-Tse would have regarded most people as too ignorant to understand his teaching. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-03 Thread s3raphita
Re The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle between the opposing forces of good and evil, spiritual light versus the material world darkness. Humans are composed of two opposing elements in a battle for power. There is a soul, but it is influenced by elements of

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Should TM'er Buddhists even be allowed to have a Dome badge? Is it possible to be a buddhist and practice meditation effortlessly? -Buck ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle between the opposing

[FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-03 Thread emptybill
The Mahasiddha Tilopa’s six essential points of meditation contain the basic principles of placement meditation. 1. The first point is not to be distracted by, dwell upon, get involved in, get lost in, nourish, encourage, or follow thoughts about the past. Anything that arises