[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't mind putting > thoughts in their heads, and pretending you can read their minds, which > you do *all the time,* Judy. > > Sal > > > On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:35 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > >> > >> Priorities, priorities. > > > > Yeah, except that's NOT WHAT HE SAID. > > > > Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't > > mind putting words in their mouth. Good point Sal. Personally, I no longer read posts by authfriend or spairag. Waste of time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't mind putting > thoughts in their heads, and pretending you can read their minds, > which you do *all the time,* Judy. Bit of a difference, Sal. Obviously not simplistic enough for you to grasp, however. > > Sal > > > On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:35 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > >> > >> Priorities, priorities. > > > > Yeah, except that's NOT WHAT HE SAID. > > > > Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't > > mind putting words in their mouth. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't mind putting thoughts in their heads, and pretending you can read their minds, which you do *all the time,* Judy. Sal On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:35 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Priorities, priorities. Yeah, except that's NOT WHAT HE SAID. Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't mind putting words in their mouth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > > By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome > > goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is alive > > and well. > > > > "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn of > > the age of enlightenment" > > Sparaig has admitted to the fact that he does not always have time to > do his program - one reason being that he is so busy posting moronic > messages on FF Life. > ADHD/OCD is a wonder to behold. What's in YOUR brainpan? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Priorities, priorities. Yeah, except that's NOT WHAT HE SAID. Gee, it's so easy to dump on people when you don't mind putting words in their mouth. > Sal > > On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:25 PM, ffia1120 wrote: > > > Sparaig has admitted to the fact that he does not always have time to > > do his program - one reason being that he is so busy posting moronic > > messages on FF Life. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome > goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is alive > and well. > > "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn of > the age of enlightenment" Ah yes: my attitude bad, yours good... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > > By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome > > goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is alive > > and well. > > > > "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn of > > the age of enlightenment" > > Sparaig has admitted to the fact that he does not always have time to > do his program - one reason being that he is so busy posting moronic > messages on FF Life. That's not what he said. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
Priorities, priorities. Sal On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:25 PM, ffia1120 wrote: Sparaig has admitted to the fact that he does not always have time to do his program - one reason being that he is so busy posting moronic messages on FF Life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > > > > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > > > > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in > > this year 2006 why > > > would she be so surprised that they are acting > > like this? This > > > mind says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > > > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not > > respect its > > > basic tenet that you can practise any religion and > > still practise > > > TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other > > techniques are > > > religions > > > > You have a *very* odd definition of "religions." > > > > > ...and as long as the people in the dome do the > > dome > > > practise, what's the harm? > > > > It seems to me the premise is that involvement > > with other techniques and with saints is likely > > to affect a person's practice of TM and the TM- > > Sidhis in subtle ways, although the person might > > not realize it. > > > > Whether that's *true* or not, I don't know; and > > it certainly appears that those who make the > > decisions in individual cases tend to err way > > too far on the side of caution. But I think that's > > the idea behind the ban. > > But it would be interesting to hear MMY's direct take > on it once he understood exactly what is going on. > I'm inclined to think that this is an implimentation of MMY's directive, and likely not all that heavy-handed, either. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome > goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is alive > and well. > > "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn of > the age of enlightenment" Sparaig has admitted to the fact that he does not always have time to do his program - one reason being that he is so busy posting moronic messages on FF Life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this > > year 2006 why > > would she be so surprised that they are acting like > > this? This mind > > says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not > > respect its basic > > tenet that you can practise any religion and still > > practise TM...and > > visiting saints and doing all these other techniques > > are > > religions...and as long as the people in the dome do > > the dome > > practise, what's the harm? > > Yes, what is the harm? I don't think anyone has ever > run this by MMY. It appears to be very much a strong > attachment that the TMO has collectively. Like the > Nazis and their Aryan race of "perfection." Same > dynamic. > The guy who claimed that he was Shankaracharya of North America actively encouraged his folk to practice his techniques while people were in the domes. Add to that the explicit warning that some techniques that are harmless for TMers are deemed harmful for TM-sidhas, and mix in a presumption that anyone who can't see that the TM-Sidhis large-group practice is best for evolution anyway (explicitly stated by MMY) is a bit off in their thinking (as was shown quite clearly by the woman whose letter was posted here) and you get a strong anti-other-techniques/saints attitude. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its > > > basic tenet that you can practise any religion and still > > > practise TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other > > > techniques are religions...and as long as the people in the > > > dome do the dome practise, what's the harm? > > > > Well, y'know, dome practice is more than TM > > Uh, yeah, I guess then maybe that "more" is that it's a religion? Er, no, the "more" is the TM-Sidhis. > > and the deal with TM doesn't hold with the TM- > > sidhis, and it was made clear that that was the case when you > first learned or it was clear > > when *I* first learned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this year 2006 why > > would she be so surprised that they are acting like this? This mind > > says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its basic > > tenet that you can practise any religion and still practise TM...and > > visiting saints and doing all these other techniques are > > religions...and as long as the people in the dome do the dome > > practise, what's the harm? > > Well, y'know, dome practice is more than TM Uh, yeah, I guess then maybe that "more" is that it's a religion? > and the deal with TM doesn't hold with the TM- > sidhis, and it was made clear that that was the case when you first learned or it was clear > when *I* first learned. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
Ma Kali shreddin' the boundaries! --- steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome > goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is > alive > and well. > > "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn > of > the age of enlightenment" > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
By the response of Sparaig and some of these dome goers it is clear that in fairfield Kuli Yuga is alive and well. "And thru the window of science we can see the dawn of the age of enlightenment" __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/8/06 9:00 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > They just have to start their own group flying > program > > like David Hawthorne did. People are only leaders > > because other people follow them. Stop following > the > > TMO and start following MMY. > > > Better yet, start following yourself your own > dharma. Those in the TMO > think they are following MMY, and they may be. Ha! Who knows? > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome' on 8/8/06 9:00 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They just have to start their own group flying program like David Hawthorne did. People are only leaders because other people follow them. Stop following the TMO and start following MMY. Better yet, start following yourself – your own dharma. Those in the TMO think they are following MMY, and they may be. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It seems to me the premise is that involvement > > with other techniques and with saints is likely > > to affect a person's practice of TM and the TM- > > Sidhis in subtle ways, although the person might > > not realize it. > > > > Whether that's *true* or not, I don't know; and > > it certainly appears that those who make the > > decisions in individual cases tend to err way > > too far on the side of caution. But I think that's > > the idea behind the ban. > > But it would be interesting to hear MMY's direct take > on it once he understood exactly what is going on. Perhaps you don't get it, living still with some past fantasy. MMY: "Why are you bringing this up again -- wasting precious time." then THE glance with slight nod to the handlers -- the one meaning "have his suitcases packed and he and them in the van to the airport within the hour. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ***Well, you could look at it another way: > It could just be the 'ego's last stand', > In other words, when something is about to fall, or > end; > It comes out almost exagerrated; > So, this exaggerated behaviour, on both the woman's > part, > who wrote the letter; > And the exagerrated response from the representative > of the movement > sounds so absurd, that it will 'fall under it's own > weight', so to > speak; > Whenever a behavior pattern shifts, or any pattern > for that matter; > it seems to rear it's ugly head, greater than ever; > And then seems to just collapse under it's own > falsity, exposed. > So, perhaps, this is what is happening not just > here; > In this example of the movement, and the politics of > the movement. > But in the politics,and political leadership, in all > systems around > the world. > So, interesting, and transformation times we live > in. > But the main thing is: > Not to be afraid to challenge this old power > structure; > As it appears weak and ready to fall. > R.G. They just have to start their own group flying program like David Hawthorne did. People are only leaders because other people follow them. Stop following the TMO and start following MMY. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > > > > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > > > > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in > > this year 2006 why > > > would she be so surprised that they are acting > > like this? This > > > mind says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > > > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not > > respect its > > > basic tenet that you can practise any religion and > > still practise > > > TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other > > techniques are > > > religions > > > > You have a *very* odd definition of "religions." > > > > > ...and as long as the people in the dome do the > > dome > > > practise, what's the harm? > > > > It seems to me the premise is that involvement > > with other techniques and with saints is likely > > to affect a person's practice of TM and the TM- > > Sidhis in subtle ways, although the person might > > not realize it. > > > > Whether that's *true* or not, I don't know; and > > it certainly appears that those who make the > > decisions in individual cases tend to err way > > too far on the side of caution. But I think that's > > the idea behind the ban. > > But it would be interesting to hear MMY's direct take > on it once he understood exactly what is going on. Sure would. It's not impossible these people are following his instructions to the letter, i.e., no exceptions. Maybe the subtlety factor is such that that's the only way to be consistent when you have more than one person making the decisions about whom to let in. I wonder if he realizes, though, that some people are lying about other involvements, if what that woman says is true. Might be worse, in terms of its effect, than the involvements themselves. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in > this year 2006 why > > would she be so surprised that they are acting > like this? This > > mind says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not > respect its > > basic tenet that you can practise any religion and > still practise > > TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other > techniques are > > religions > > You have a *very* odd definition of "religions." > > > ...and as long as the people in the dome do the > dome > > practise, what's the harm? > > It seems to me the premise is that involvement > with other techniques and with saints is likely > to affect a person's practice of TM and the TM- > Sidhis in subtle ways, although the person might > not realize it. > > Whether that's *true* or not, I don't know; and > it certainly appears that those who make the > decisions in individual cases tend to err way > too far on the side of caution. But I think that's > the idea behind the ban. But it would be interesting to hear MMY's direct take on it once he understood exactly what is going on. > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this year 2006 why > would she be so surprised that they are acting like this? This > mind says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its > basic tenet that you can practise any religion and still practise > TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other techniques are > religions You have a *very* odd definition of "religions." > ...and as long as the people in the dome do the dome > practise, what's the harm? It seems to me the premise is that involvement with other techniques and with saints is likely to affect a person's practice of TM and the TM- Sidhis in subtle ways, although the person might not realize it. Whether that's *true* or not, I don't know; and it certainly appears that those who make the decisions in individual cases tend to err way too far on the side of caution. But I think that's the idea behind the ban. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this > year 2006 why > would she be so surprised that they are acting like > this? This mind > says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not > respect its basic > tenet that you can practise any religion and still > practise TM...and > visiting saints and doing all these other techniques > are > religions...and as long as the people in the dome do > the dome > practise, what's the harm? Yes, what is the harm? I don't think anyone has ever run this by MMY. It appears to be very much a strong attachment that the TMO has collectively. Like the Nazis and their Aryan race of "perfection." Same dynamic. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this year 2006 why > would she be so surprised that they are acting like this? This mind > says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its basic > tenet that you can practise any religion and still practise TM...and > visiting saints and doing all these other techniques are > religions...and as long as the people in the dome do the dome > practise, what's the harm? Yes let's see? Well, I guess you could be of one of three(3) school(s) of [thought]; On this issue: 1. That this controlling behaviour is not good for the movement and a 'French Stle Revolution, is in order... 2. That this is 'Much Adu, about nothin', and please everone just calm down and go back to sleep. 3. 'ALL THIS IS THAT PURNAMADAM PRURNAMADA' ( no problem's man!) R.G. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone > you > > > > think > > > > may benefit from it. > > > > All Love, > > > > Shiva Ma > > > > > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > > > > > Reading Post # 108732 > > was really disturbing; > > > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > > > following > > > > orders'. > > > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a > Facist > > > > regime, or something not good. > > > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > > > > ***I can't get no satisfaction > > > > post # 108732 has no letter in it. > > > > > > ***> Sorry the post # was 108731, but here it is: > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > > > *** FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > think > > may benefit from it. > > All Love, > > Shiva Ma > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > Aug 2 (5 days ago) > > > > Dear John, > > I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at > the > > dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one > of > > the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share > > this > > letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH" about > > what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have > written > > in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as "TRUTHFUL" > > as > > I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that may > > benefit EVERYONE! > > > > When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to > > be > > processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance, > > because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced any > > techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT > saint > > from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man > questioning > > me "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and that > > what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question > > to > > over 600 people that I initiated, back in the > seventies: "Everything > > we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This answer > > seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was not > > accepted then for the dome. > > > > This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister and > > brother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I > should > > apply now for the dome, because they were accepting EVERYONE! > > Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, I > > was > > told EVERYONE was WELCOME BACK!!! The words "All sins would be > > forgiven" were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have > > never > > considered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a sin. I > > have been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over the > > last twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. Each > > ONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT > and > > ETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in the > > past. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!! Yet Maharishi became > > inaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 Course > in > > 1983. My he
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" wrote: > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > think > > may benefit from it. > > All Love, > > Shiva Ma > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just following > > orders'. > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > > regime, or something not good. > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > > The screening process worked quite well in her case... Agreed ! :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. > > I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. > > One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this year 2006 why > would she be so surprised that they are acting like this? This mind > says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. > > The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its basic > tenet that you can practise any religion and still practise TM...and > visiting saints and doing all these other techniques are > religions...and as long as the people in the dome do the dome > practise, what's the harm? Well, y'know, dome practice is more than TM and the deal with TM doesn't hold with the TM- sidhis, and it was made clear that that was the case when you first learned or it was clear when *I* first learned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > think > may benefit from it. > All Love, > Shiva Ma > > My Dome rejection > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just following > orders'. > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > regime, or something not good. > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > The screening process worked quite well in her case... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
Thank you for reproducing it, Robert. I read the entire thing and I am of two minds. One says that, hey, that's the Movement and in this year 2006 why would she be so surprised that they are acting like this? This mind says, yes, she SHOULD have lied. The other mind is angry that the movement does not respect its basic tenet that you can practise any religion and still practise TM...and visiting saints and doing all these other techniques are religions...and as long as the people in the dome do the dome practise, what's the harm? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > > think > > > may benefit from it. > > > All Love, > > > Shiva Ma > > > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > > > Reading Post # 108732 > was really disturbing; > > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > > following > > > orders'. > > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > > > regime, or something not good. > > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > > ***I can't get no satisfaction > > post # 108732 has no letter in it. > > > ***> Sorry the post # was 108731, but here it is: > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > *** FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > think > may benefit from it. > All Love, > Shiva Ma > > My Dome rejection > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > Aug 2 (5 days ago) > > Dear John, > I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at the > dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one of > the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share > this > letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH" about > what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have written > in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as "TRUTHFUL" > as > I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that may > benefit EVERYONE! > > When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to > be > processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance, > because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced any > techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT saint > from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man questioning > me "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and that > what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question > to > over 600 people that I initiated, back in the seventies: "Everything > we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This answer > seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was not > accepted then for the dome. > > This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister and > brother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I should > apply now for the dome, because they were accepting EVERYONE! > Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, I > was > told EVERYONE was WELCOME BACK!!! The words "All sins would be > forgiven" were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have > never > considered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a sin. I > have been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over the > last twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. Each > ONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT and > ETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in the > past. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!! Yet Maharishi became > inaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 Course in > 1983. My heart was longing for him, So I felt that one by one He > started sending different saints to BLESS ME!!! Over the years, I > have received the GRACE and BLESSINGS from over 15 different saints > that have visited Fairfield since 1997. In 1994 my first GREAT > BLESSING was from MOTHER MEERA, in Germany. She changed my life > forever... I have had the GREAT fortune of traveling with many of > these DIVINE BEINGS. I am so GRATEFUL for the Love and Grace I have > been given from these PURE DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS of Gods and > Goddess's. > > I want to offer my HUMBLEST GRATITUDE to Maharishi for always > remaining in my HEART of HEARTS, since November 19, 1971. I will be > in > HIS ETERNAL DEBT for the GRACE
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hyperbolicgeometry" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone > you > > > > think > > > > may benefit from it. > > > > All Love, > > > > Shiva Ma > > > > > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > > > > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > > > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > > > following > > > > orders'. > > > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a > Facist > > > > regime, or something not good. > > > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > > > > > Her tiny little ego is just crying out to continue its illusion > > > of 'staying alive', in the face of its pending annihilation. Not > a > > > bad thing really.. > > . > > >rephrase the above: "The TMO ego is just crying out to continue > its > > illusion of "staying alive" in the face of its pending > annihilation. > > Not a bad thing, really..." > > Rest in Peace, TMO...it's about time!...upon its well-deserved > > demise, such people (as the contributor in question) will feel no > > misgivings since attachments to the TMO...(and whatever entities > that > > entails: the dome, MMY, Bevan, tweaked statistics, dishonesty...), > > will conveniently no longer exist. Poof! Cheshire cat gone. > > abilsincludilias the conpeo0pl final > > > > and so the TMO's 'transgressions' grow stronger in your awareness, > eh? Exactly the opposite of what you wanted... ***Well, you could look at it another way: It could just be the 'ego's last stand', In other words, when something is about to fall, or end; It comes out almost exagerrated; So, this exaggerated behaviour, on both the woman's part, who wrote the letter; And the exagerrated response from the representative of the movement sounds so absurd, that it will 'fall under it's own weight', so to speak; Whenever a behavior pattern shifts, or any pattern for that matter; it seems to rear it's ugly head, greater than ever; And then seems to just collapse under it's own falsity, exposed. So, perhaps, this is what is happening not just here; In this example of the movement, and the politics of the movement. But in the politics,and political leadership, in all systems around the world. So, interesting, and transformation times we live in. But the main thing is: Not to be afraid to challenge this old power structure; As it appears weak and ready to fall. R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > think > > may benefit from it. > > All Love, > > Shiva Ma > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > Reading Post # 108732 was really disturbing; > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > following > > orders'. > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > > regime, or something not good. > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > ***I can't get no satisfaction post # 108732 has no letter in it. ***> Sorry the post # was 108731, but here it is: "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan *** FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you think may benefit from it. All Love, Shiva Ma My Dome rejection Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin Aug 2 (5 days ago) Dear John, I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at the dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one of the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share this letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know "THE REAL TRUTH" about what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have written in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as "TRUTHFUL" as I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that may benefit EVERYONE! When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to be processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance, because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced any techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT saint from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man questioning me "I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and that what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question to over 600 people that I initiated, back in the seventies: "Everything we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree?" This answer seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was not accepted then for the dome. This past Saturday July 29th, I was encouraged by my sister and brother-in law and several friends at a birthday party, that I should apply now for the dome, because they were accepting EVERYONE! Regardless of past associations with saints or other techniques, I was told EVERYONE was WELCOME BACK!!! The words "All sins would be forgiven" were used. Those words deeply pinched my heart. I have never considered spending time with Fully Awakened Divine Beings a sin. I have been incredibly fortunate to travel with many saints over the last twelve years. Each ONE I always experienced as MAHARISHI. Each ONE, that I was BLESSED by, deepened my INCREDIBLE LOVE, RESPECT and ETERNAL GRATITUDE to Maharishi for all that He had given me in the past. Maharishi was my FIRST GURU!!! Yet Maharishi became inaccessible to me. The last time I saw Him was at The 7000 Course in 1983. My heart was longing for him, So I felt that one by one He started sending different saints to BLESS ME!!! Over the years, I have received the GRACE and BLESSINGS from over 15 different saints that have visited Fairfield since 1997. In 1994 my first GREAT BLESSING was from MOTHER MEERA, in Germany. She changed my life forever... I have had the GREAT fortune of traveling with many of these DIVINE BEINGS. I am so GRATEFUL for the Love and Grace I have been given from these PURE DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS of Gods and Goddess's. I want to offer my HUMBLEST GRATITUDE to Maharishi for always remaining in my HEART of HEARTS, since November 19, 1971. I will be in HIS ETERNAL DEBT for the GRACE HE SHOWERED upon me over and over again throughout all these years. JAI GURU DEV MAHARISHI! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. At the course office, Jeff Cohen was so sweet and kind to me on the phone, going over the guidelines for acceptance for the course. However the words he used when telling me what I needed to do, to get my badge, still penetrate me like millions of daggers in my HEART. I have not been able to shake them. {Please ask Maharishi to help me with this.} He said I would be able to get my badge if: "I SEVERED any connection I had with any saints and SEVERED the use of any techniques that they had taught me, and that I would NEVER establish a connection with them again or practice any other techniques other than Maharishi's, EVER AGAIN. And that I had to put all of this in writing, promising that I would do this. For GOD'S SAKE,
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hyperbolicgeometry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > > think > > > may benefit from it. > > > All Love, > > > Shiva Ma > > > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > > following > > > orders'. > > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > > > regime, or something not good. > > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > > > Her tiny little ego is just crying out to continue its illusion > > of 'staying alive', in the face of its pending annihilation. Not a > > bad thing really.. > . > >rephrase the above: "The TMO ego is just crying out to continue its > illusion of "staying alive" in the face of its pending annihilation. > Not a bad thing, really..." > Rest in Peace, TMO...it's about time!...upon its well-deserved > demise, such people (as the contributor in question) will feel no > misgivings since attachments to the TMO...(and whatever entities that > entails: the dome, MMY, Bevan, tweaked statistics, dishonesty...), > will conveniently no longer exist. Poof! Cheshire cat gone. > abilsincludilias the conpeo0pl final > and so the TMO's 'transgressions' grow stronger in your awareness, eh? Exactly the opposite of what you wanted... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- hyperbolicgeometry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > >rephrase the above: "The TMO ego is just crying out > to continue its > illusion of "staying alive" in the face of its > pending annihilation. > Not a bad thing, really..." > Rest in Peace, TMO...it's about time!...upon its > well-deserved > demise, such people (as the contributor in question) > will feel no > misgivings since attachments to the TMO...(and > whatever entities that > entails: the dome, MMY, Bevan, tweaked statistics, > dishonesty...), > will conveniently no longer exist. Poof! Cheshire > cat gone. > abilsincludilias the conpeo0pl final And that is MMY's master plan! A total collapse of everything into nothingness. No attachments, just pure shiva. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > think > may benefit from it. > All Love, > Shiva Ma > > My Dome rejection > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > Reading Post # 108732 I can't get no satisfaction. post # 108732 has no letter in it. >, was really disturbing; > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just following > orders'. > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > regime, or something not good. > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > > think > > may benefit from it. > > All Love, > > Shiva Ma > > > > My Dome rejection > > > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just > following > > orders'. > > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > > regime, or something not good. > > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > > > Her tiny little ego is just crying out to continue its illusion > of 'staying alive', in the face of its pending annihilation. Not a > bad thing really.. . >rephrase the above: "The TMO ego is just crying out to continue its illusion of "staying alive" in the face of its pending annihilation. Not a bad thing, really..." Rest in Peace, TMO...it's about time!...upon its well-deserved demise, such people (as the contributor in question) will feel no misgivings since attachments to the TMO...(and whatever entities that entails: the dome, MMY, Bevan, tweaked statistics, dishonesty...), will conveniently no longer exist. Poof! Cheshire cat gone. abilsincludilias the conpeo0pl final To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Totalitarianism in the Dome'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan > > > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection" > Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you > think > may benefit from it. > All Love, > Shiva Ma > > My Dome rejection > > Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin > > Reading Post # 108732, was really disturbing; > What gives someone the right, to manipulate another like this. > I'm sure it's not the fault of Jeff Cohen, as he is 'Just following > orders'. > Orders sound more like Bevan's policy. > Anyway, it just reminds me of a totalitarian state, or a Facist > regime, or something not good. > No wonder the atmostphere, is not as it could be. > Stiffled and compressed; fear mongering, and control. > Why, is the only question to ask? why? > Her tiny little ego is just crying out to continue its illusion of 'staying alive', in the face of its pending annihilation. Not a bad thing really... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/