[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
Me? With the skin infection guy? Nah, he wasn't interested. He was definitely sending mixed signals, though -- standing in my room, one o'clock in the morning, and *insisting* on rolling up his shirt sleeves, to show me his diseased dermis. Then he says, I'm not contagious, and I was tired, but I think he winked at me when he said it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: When you said, I was there, briefly, at first I thought you were referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to ask you if you got lucky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Me? With the skin infection guy? Nah, he wasn't interested. He was definitely sending mixed signals, though -- standing in my room, one o'clock in the morning, and *insisting* on rolling up his shirt sleeves, to show me his diseased dermis. Then he says, I'm not contagious, and I was tired, but I think he winked at me when he said it. I think it was his way of ensuring he would end up with a private room. He probably used that trick on all his new roommates! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: When you said, I was there, briefly, at first I thought you were referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to ask you if you got lucky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
I'm conflicted now. Upon reflection, he wasn't THAT disgusting... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Me? With the skin infection guy? Nah, he wasn't interested. He was definitely sending mixed signals, though -- standing in my room, one o'clock in the morning, and *insisting* on rolling up his shirt sleeves, to show me his diseased dermis. Then he says, I'm not contagious, and I was tired, but I think he winked at me when he said it. I think it was his way of ensuring he would end up with a private room. He probably used that trick on all his new roommates! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: When you said, I was there, briefly, at first I thought you were referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to ask you if you got lucky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
From 23 years ago. Wow. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
emily: From 23 years ago. Wow. It takes the newbies a while to catch up on the news. Why doesn't he just go over to see Curtis, it's not that far away. They could talk about the old days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
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But you were only there for a day! I posted it cause I am a history buff. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. snip TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: This was probably Joe Kellett, not Kelley. He used to post here, back in 2003. snip Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Interesting. Seems like it wasn't just Robin and Mark Landau who saw such beings. Oh, and Dr. Peter Sutphen, now a practicing psychotherapist, who used to be a regular here (and made a brief appearance recently). I can't now recall whether it was in an FFL post or on TM-Free, but he said that as he was writing it one of the creatures scampered across his desk, so he was apparently still able to see them. Didn't seem to bother him any. snip Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Mmm, that's a familiar phrase, isn't it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party
Yeah, but I was there a day longer than you were.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: But you were only there for a day! I posted it cause I am a history buff. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party  I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM  From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16.     More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement.     One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center.     TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives.     TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley.     Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement.     Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual.     Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
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ha ha ha! That's true! From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party Yeah, but I was there a day longer than you were.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: But you were only there for a day! I posted it cause I am a history buff. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party  I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM  From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16.     More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement.     One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center.     TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives.     TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley.     Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement.     Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual.     Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
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When you said, I was there, briefly, at first I thought you were referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to ask you if you got lucky. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The administration and assignment of rooms for participants was unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third world backwater. After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day. As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against TM From Grounding the Guru, by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90; 14,16. More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX, an informal anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers exit counseling to those who want out of the movement. One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old real estate broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist religion that is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979 graduate of Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985 became head of TM's Washington Center. TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation technique, though they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The danger in TM, they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators' lives. TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: When we started we were told it was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications. Initially, it was a 20 minute technique. But by taking advanced residence courses and other activities, I was effectively made into a Hindu believer, said Kelley. Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for fraud and extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were considered a sign of spiritual superiority. I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods, she related. They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties were devas -- Hindu spirits of nature. I began not to be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva, she said. Hendel sought counseling, eventually quit meditating, and left the movement. Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes a prison of specialness. Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave this group and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I was only special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as an individual. Mailloux's specialnessearned him three years in Florida with a group of celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he enjoyed the adulation of female movement groupies drawn to his hard-to-getness -- a common ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low self-esteem, he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked for donations to support them.
