[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: LOL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Jim stated: It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to infect everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.   I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking? When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Emily Reyn
Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well.  It's the time it all takes that I need to address.  And swimming works wonders for me as well - lots of breathing.   From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
I like swimming underwater and have put on my wish listgills. ;D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ha ha ha.I take a lot of long daily dog walks myself - and the dog needs these as well.  It's the time it all takes that I need to address.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Meditation gets you there faster, no? No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When this happens and if it indeed happens is a big

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
I find your response interesting. Ravi, I started another thread regarding enlightenment here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333764 Would you mind commenting on that thread? (Just to keep the comments together. Hope that is an okay request here on FFL.) In your words,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
Yeah, that is the progression - first finding silence within oneself when doing quiet enjoyable activities. Then it grows, finally to a point where that inner whatever it is, never leaves, even under the most stressful circumstances. Puts an absolutely different perspective on life, where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread Carol
DocD stated: ...where that inner whatever it is, never leaves,... Ha! I like that description...inner whatever it is. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yeah, that is the progression - first finding silence within oneself when doing quiet enjoyable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim

2013-01-27 Thread doctordumbass
An umbilical cord to Mother Divine (who others refer to as 'God' - same entity)?? This permanent connection to whatever it is, seems to be the destiny of each of us. Like one of those mid-air refueling ops that the military does, except you've never flown before, and all the tech manuals just