Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Train wreck of logic! I've read quite a bit of Gangaji and listened to many audio and video tapes of her, and that transcript is not her speaking. Jim, just because you feel something is true, doesn't make it true! I heard a woman once talk to SSRS about a vivid dream she had in which he instructed her to do something. She followed this dream advice and a lot of problems were created. When she asked him what had happened, he flatly said that the person in her dream was not him. She asked how we should know if it is him or not. He laughed and said you know it's me when I'm talking to you just like this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. The one she is speaking to, Rasa, is also a woman, with a very unusual website to say the least(!) Yes, Rasa's website identifies Swami G. as Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri, whose site is KundaliniSupport.com. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Train wreck of logic! I've read quite a bit of Gangaji and listened to many audio and video tapes of her, and that transcript is not her speaking. Jim, just because you feel something is true, doesn't make it true! I heard a woman once talk to SSRS about a vivid dream she had in which he instructed her to do something. She followed this dream advice and a lot of problems were created. When she asked him what had happened, he flatly said that the person in her dream was not him. She asked how we should know if it is him or not. He laughed and said you know it's me when I'm talking to you just like this. I dreamed that you said that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Train wreck of logic! I've read quite a bit of Gangaji and listened to many audio and video tapes of her, and that transcript is not her speaking. Jim, just because you feel something is true, doesn't make it true! I heard a woman once talk to SSRS about a vivid dream she had in which he instructed her to do something. She followed this dream advice and a lot of problems were created. When she asked him what had happened, he flatly said that the person in her dream was not him. She asked how we should know if it is him or not. He laughed and said you know it's me when I'm talking to you just like this. I dreamed that you said that. That's funny. I dreamed that you.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
I dreamed that you said that. That's funny. I dreamed that you.. Actually, all my bad posts are a result of my dreaming that you are telling me to post such. With a gun to my head. But I go hey you can't pull that tiger dream gun thing on me dude. But I post what you admonish me to do anyway. Then you yell at me in waking state for posting such a sily or ignorant post. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Train wreck of logic! I've read quite a bit of Gangaji and listened to many audio and video tapes of her, and that transcript is not her speaking. Jim, just because you feel something is true, doesn't make it true! I heard a woman once talk to SSRS about a vivid dream she had in which he instructed her to do something. She followed this dream advice and a lot of problems were created. When she asked him what had happened, he flatly said that the person in her dream was not him. She asked how we should know if it is him or not. He laughed and said you know it's me when I'm talking to you just like this. Oh well, thanks for the insight. I like to try stuff like this out once in awhile to separate the true from the false; sharpen my discrimination. Probably reading those words triggered my memory of the rhythm of her voice, which was quite distinctive... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Train wreck of logic! I've read quite a bit of Gangaji and listened to many audio and video tapes of her, and that transcript is not her speaking. Jim, just because you feel something is true, doesn't make it true! I heard a woman once talk to SSRS about a vivid dream she had in which he instructed her to do something. She followed this dream advice and a lot of problems were created. When she asked him what had happened, he flatly said that the person in her dream was not him. She asked how we should know if it is him or not. He laughed and said you know it's me when I'm talking to you just like this. I dreamed that you said that. Granted, dreams are a amalgam of our every day reality, but they seem more meaningful lately, as if it is easier to make sense of the constituent parts. Perhaps each part or element is attached to a specific emotional response, that when viewed together, make some sense, or at least can be traced to the source. I have also had on rare occasion, lucid dreams, in which the shape shifting nature of my common dreams is absent, where, instead, I partake as myself in a fantastic adventure, or witness something special. The experience is linear, with time and space assuming their common dimensions, only I am visiting with someone gone, or flying or something... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is pretty lame. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the need/desire to be special, isn't that what this whole conversation is about? This fellow (I can only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered special because he has some kind of stigmata. Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT being special. He freaks out, but keeps coming back for more, because in some weird way, his being knows that its specialness is not making him happy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way you do. You say this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot refute saying this, you have put it in black and white. This is the threat I am fighting - not against myself as a personality, but something bigger. Please don't push me down to where I am not! G: fight what you want . there has been no threat against you . No you do not think like Christ for Christ would not make false statments against anyone . no one can put you anywhere .. it is only your own mind which is constricted ... * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, while it is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser knowns, and the living, like myself. G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints .. if you wish to call yourself a saint fine . go for it ... * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look at your attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me from any sort of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I say those words, Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as one is never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything that differentiates or separates. G: as far as the stigmata - show it .. if it is within and not for the world then Shut up about it . for you are using it as a sense of pride.. if it is for the world then Show it .. * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account is under YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. G: actually it is under the non-profits heading and no i don't draw a salary from it . but what would a bank account have to do with anything . again you are off on another side avenue that has Nothing to do with anything .. * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are hanging in your closet, where others do not walk in and put on. G: actually yes others do put them on . hahahahahaah * And then there is YOUR apartment, G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others do come and go here .. it is open for anyone to walk in . * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and transporting them wherever they need to go . * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games here? G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing games .. AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY -- SHE RELATES TO A FORM TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE this IS the mind of Duality .. in this Consciousness there is always first and Foremost the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute - the stilled point and from that Shakti or world comes into play dividing the Light into lights sounds colors - experience . the interaction takes place as motion --- sensation - when it ends then again the stilled vastness is all encompassing . the motion is Flow .. within this it is forever Not Two / Not Two When you are tired of playing games then Stop - and Be Still - Let it all fall away . SEE what remains . * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I use personal pronouns? G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ? * You have bounced me backward twice because of the Divine Stigmata. The first letter, you asked where is it now, what good has it done to save the masses? (You don't believe in missionary work, so why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me WHERE IS IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where are mine? G: yes and you have not answered Either of those questions . Why is it here two questions are asked and you give no answer . ? while you have asked and laid out charges and questions and i have answered them all .. * Once again, you so cruelly and awfully contradict yourself. You say that God - who is not physical is That, and you are That. G: yes there is the One Divine Essense of All Being * Then when I speak of a SPIRITUAL METAPHYSICAL UNSEEN reality, you say it has to be physical! If you can't see it with your eyes, it isn't
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is pretty lame. My mistake, I guess. Pretty lame to allow it to go on this long, but if I were to vote for who is the most 'pseudo' in this particular discussion, it sure ain't the Advaitan. :-) --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the need/desire to be special, isn't that what this whole conversation is about? This fellow (I can only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered special because he has some kind of stigmata. Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT being special. He freaks out, but keeps coming back for more, because in some weird way, his being knows that its specialness is not making him happy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way you do. You say this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot refute saying this, you have put it in black and white. This is the threat I am fighting - not against myself as a personality, but something bigger. Please don't push me down to where I am not! G: fight what you want . there has been no threat against you . No you do not think like Christ for Christ would not make false statments against anyone . no one can put you anywhere .. it is only your own mind which is constricted ... * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, while it is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser knowns, and the living, like myself. G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints .. if you wish to call yourself a saint fine . go for it ... * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look at your attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me from any sort of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I say those words, Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as one is never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything that differentiates or separates. G: as far as the stigmata - show it .. if it is within and not for the world then Shut up about it . for you are using it as a sense of pride.. if it is for the world then Show it .. * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account is under YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. G: actually it is under the non-profits heading and no i don't draw a salary from it . but what would a bank account have to do with anything . again you are off on another side avenue that has Nothing to do with anything .. * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are hanging in your closet, where others do not walk in and put on. G: actually yes others do put them on . hahahahahaah * And then there is YOUR apartment, G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others do come and go here .. it is open for anyone to walk in . * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and transporting them wherever they need to go . * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games here? G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing games .. AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY -- SHE RELATES TO A FORM TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE this IS the mind of Duality .. in this Consciousness there is always first and Foremost the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute - the stilled point and from that Shakti or world comes into play dividing the Light into lights sounds colors - experience . the interaction takes place as motion --- sensation - when it ends then again the stilled vastness is all encompassing . the motion is Flow .. within this it is forever Not Two / Not Two When you are tired of playing games then Stop - and Be Still - Let it all fall away . SEE what remains . * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I use personal pronouns? G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ? * You have bounced me backward twice because of the Divine Stigmata. The first letter, you asked where is it now, what good has it done to save the masses? (You don't believe in missionary work, so why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me WHERE IS IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where are mine? G: yes and you have not answered Either of those questions . Why is it here two questions are asked and you give no answer . ? while you have asked and laid
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. The one she is speaking to, Rasa, is also a woman, with a very unusual website to say the least(!) It occurs to me when reading all of this that those who set themselves up to be spiritual teachers take on as their dharma challenges such as this, which only serve to deepen their experience. Much as us householders struggle to complete projects on time. Same thing, really... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't sound like Gangaji to me. The exchange is pretty lame. My mistake, I guess. Pretty lame to allow it to go on this long, but if I were to vote for who is the most 'pseudo' in this particular discussion, it sure ain't the Advaitan. :-) --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the need/desire to be special, isn't that what this whole conversation is about? This fellow (I can only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered special because he has some kind of stigmata. Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT being special. He freaks out, but keeps coming back for more, because in some weird way, his being knows that its specialness is not making him happy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way you do. You say this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot refute saying this, you have put it in black and white. This is the threat I am fighting - not against myself as a personality, but something bigger. Please don't push me down to where I am not! G: fight what you want . there has been no threat against you . No you do not think like Christ for Christ would not make false statments against anyone . no one can put you anywhere .. it is only your own mind which is constricted ... * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, while it is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser knowns, and the living, like myself. G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints .. if you wish to call yourself a saint fine . go for it ... * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look at your attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me from any sort of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I say those words, Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as one is never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything that differentiates or separates. G: as far as the stigmata - show it .. if it is within and not for the world then Shut up about it . for you are using it as a sense of pride.. if it is for the world then Show it .. * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account is under YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. G: actually it is under the non-profits heading and no i don't draw a salary from it . but what would a bank account have to do with anything . again you are off on another side avenue that has Nothing to do with anything .. * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are hanging in your closet, where others do not walk in and put on. G: actually yes others do put them on . hahahahahaah * And then there is YOUR apartment, G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others do come and go here .. it is open for anyone to walk in . * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and transporting them wherever they need to go . * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games here? G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing games .. AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY -- SHE RELATES TO A FORM TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE this IS the mind of Duality .. in this Consciousness there is always first and Foremost the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute - the stilled point and from that Shakti or world comes into play dividing the Light into lights sounds colors - experience . the interaction takes place as motion --- sensation - when it ends then again the stilled vastness is all encompassing . the motion is Flow .. within this it is forever Not Two / Not Two When you are tired of playing games then Stop - and Be Still - Let it all fall away . SEE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read this, I kept hearing it in the voice of Gangaji, and I know nothing of her, so I believe it is genuine. Thats quite a train of logic there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Part B Swami G answers Rasa
Re my rap earlier about megalomania, and about the need/desire to be special, isn't that what this whole conversation is about? This fellow (I can only assume it's a 'he') wants to be considered special because he has some kind of stigmata. Swami G (who I assume is Gangaji) keeps trying to remind him that liberation is achieved by NOT being special. He freaks out, but keeps coming back for more, because in some weird way, his being knows that its specialness is not making him happy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I think exactly like Jesus, not exactly the way you do. You say this is a lower form of Realization! You cannot refute saying this, you have put it in black and white. This is the threat I am fighting - not against myself as a personality, but something bigger. Please don't push me down to where I am not! G: fight what you want . there has been no threat against you . No you do not think like Christ for Christ would not make false statments against anyone . no one can put you anywhere .. it is only your own mind which is constricted ... * You cannot explain away Jesus and Ramakrishna, while it is much easier to dismiss other saints, lesser knowns, and the living, like myself. G: have not attempted to dismiss any saints .. if you wish to call yourself a saint fine . go for it ... * I am the easiest for you to dispose of. Now look at your attitude toward my Divine Stigmata. God keep me from any sort of ego or pride, as I speak of 'myself.' Even as I say those words, Swami condemns me as being of a lower nature - as one is never allowed to say, 'me' 'my,' 'I' or anything that differentiates or separates. G: as far as the stigmata - show it .. if it is within and not for the world then Shut up about it . for you are using it as a sense of pride.. if it is for the world then Show it .. * But I am certain, Swami, that your bank account is under YOUR name and not open to the public to draw from. G: actually it is under the non-profits heading and no i don't draw a salary from it . but what would a bank account have to do with anything . again you are off on another side avenue that has Nothing to do with anything .. * I am sure that it is YOUR clothes that are hanging in your closet, where others do not walk in and put on. G: actually yes others do put them on . hahahahahaah * And then there is YOUR apartment, G: no --- am living at the ashram and Yes others do come and go here .. it is open for anyone to walk in . * YOUR car and the like. What do YOU say to that? G: it is used to pick up guests at the airport and transporting them wherever they need to go . * There IS NO YOU? Shall we stop playing games here? G: yes it would be nice if you would quit playing games .. AGAIN RASA SEES A BODY -- SHE RELATES TO A FORM TAKING THE FORM TO BE THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE this IS the mind of Duality .. in this Consciousness there is always first and Foremost the Stillness and Unborn Presence of Absolute - the stilled point and from that Shakti or world comes into play dividing the Light into lights sounds colors - experience . the interaction takes place as motion --- sensation - when it ends then again the stilled vastness is all encompassing . the motion is Flow .. within this it is forever Not Two / Not Two When you are tired of playing games then Stop - and Be Still - Let it all fall away . SEE what remains . * Will you stop condemning my spiritual state if I use personal pronouns? G: who has been attempting to condemn whom ? * You have bounced me backward twice because of the Divine Stigmata. The first letter, you asked where is it now, what good has it done to save the masses? (You don't believe in missionary work, so why worry about the masses?) Today you ask me WHERE IS IT? Stigmatists had PHYSICAL WOUNDS, and so, where are mine? G: yes and you have not answered Either of those questions . Why is it here two questions are asked and you give no answer . ? while you have asked and laid out charges and questions and i have answered them all .. * Once again, you so cruelly and awfully contradict yourself. You say that God - who is not physical is That, and you are That. G: yes there is the One Divine Essense of All Being * Then when I speak of a SPIRITUAL METAPHYSICAL UNSEEN reality, you say it has to be physical! If you can't see it with your eyes, it isn't there! If it isn't bleeding, it's not real! G: you are the one speaking of Duality Stigmata is within Duality . those who have claimed Stigmata have had the Marks to show --- * Here shows up a flaw in your knowledge of mystical theology, (let us make a point here.
