[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[geezerfreak]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
> Sal, I think new morning is satirizing Barry and
> geezerfreak's obsession with the number of my
> posts.
>
Got news for you toots, I have a number of things in my life that
could qualify as obsessions. As much as you'd love it, you're not on
the radar screen in any way, shape or form.

I like Rick's site. I walked away from the TMO many years ago. I
really appreciate that FFL exists since its been a way to catch up
after all these years. Your holier than though yenta nattering is an
annoyance, hardly an obsession.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > > > of them.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > > > 
> > > > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > > > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry knows this, too.
> > > >
> > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle 
of 
> > wine.>>
> > 
> > Are you also a wino like Barry? 
> > The last I saw him he was unshaven, lying in the gutter in Paris 
> > clutching a bottle of wine, mumbling something about "srdndickn 
> > friggun basto TMO sluntrybfurgin"
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> Esperanto?>>>

Lol !
I thought it had died out.
I was trying to remember the name of that language the other day. 

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Would it be possible to put a "J" or some indication of whether the
> thread includes Judy so these posts can be skipped. As I read the list
> on a browser which at times is very slow and I have yet to see a
> thread which includes Judy worth reading, this indication would be
> appreciated.

According to new morning, that would mean you'd
be skipping 90 percent of the threads here.

If you find only 10 percent of the threads on this
forum worth reading, maybe you should look for a
group that better suits your needs and interests.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 10:57 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I recently switched to reading FFL via email, and it's so much faster
> than the web interface. I use PocoMail for my personal email, and I
> wanted a separate email client for all the list traffic, so I set up
> Mozilla Thunderbird just for reading FFL. I subscribed with a new
> Yahoo email address, and I access it with Thunderbird using YahooPOPs.

Another way is to just use your regular client and create a folder for FFL emails and a rule to put all emails there which have [FairfieldLife] in the subject line.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > > of them.)
> > > > 
> > > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > > 
> > > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > > 
> > > Barry knows this, too.
> > >
> > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle of 
> wine.>>
> 
> Are you also a wino like Barry? 
> The last I saw him he was unshaven, lying in the gutter in Paris 
> clutching a bottle of wine, mumbling something about "srdndickn 
> friggun basto TMO sluntrybfurgin"
> 
> OffWorld
>
Esperanto?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:16 PM, new.morning wrote:
> 
> >>> There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost
> >>> impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy 
in
> >>> them, to one degree or another.
> >>
> >> Also *wildly* inaccurate.
> >
> > LIAR! :)
> >
> > A count of the last hundred posts from 113284 show you involved or
> > referenced (that is, involved "to one degree or amother") in 60% 
> > of the posts. Take out the somewhat out of the norm discussion on 
> > wine and you involvement or footprints in posts ratio shoots to 
> > almost 90%. (It took 3 minutes to do the count). You have out-
> > Spraiged Spraig.
> 
> That's what I thought, especially on days like today.  20%, the 
> figure she gave--she could probably do better than that in her 
sleep.

Sal, I think new morning is satirizing Barry and
geezerfreak's obsession with the number of my
posts.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to put a "J" or some indication of whether
> the thread includes Judy so these posts can be skipped. As I read
> the list on a browser which at times is very slow and I have yet
> to see a thread which includes Judy worth reading, this indication
> would be appreciated.

It is highly unlikely that everyone on the list will go out of their
way to cater to your personal dislike of Judy. My suggestion: read the
list with an email client that you've configured with the desired
filtering. 

I recently switched to reading FFL via email, and it's so much faster
than the web interface. I use PocoMail for my personal email, and I
wanted a separate email client for all the list traffic, so I set up
Mozilla Thunderbird just for reading FFL. I subscribed with a new
Yahoo email address, and I access it with Thunderbird using YahooPOPs.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 5:37 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > > 
> >> > You may have a point. Like Judy, I don¹t like hypocrisy. I may not see it
> >> in
> >> > as many people as she does, but it particularly bugs me in spiritual
> >> leaders
> >> > who run the risk of seriously disillusioning sincere people who put their
> >> > trust in them.
> >> >
> > 
> >> > H My "trust" in MMY extends to my experience that TM seems to 
> >> > work,
> >> > and to a 
> >> > lesser extent, that the TM-Sidhis seem to work, at least as far as 
> >> > helping
> >> > stabilize pure
> >> > consciousness during activity.
> > 
> I agree with you there.
> > 
> >> > What level of trust do you insist he be worthy of and when did he ever
> >> suggest 
> >> > that he was 
> >> > worthy of it?
> > 
>  not sure I understand the question. I guess I just sort of liked
> Maharishi¹s teaching that higher consciousness correlated with more ethical
> behavior. Oh, well. You take what you need and you leave the rest.
>

They probably DO correlate with more ethical behavior in simple situations 
where you can 
evalutate the ethics at-a-glance.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > > >
> > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle of 
> > wine.>>
> > 
> > Are you also a wino like Barry? 
> 
> > The last I saw him he was unshaven, lying in the gutter in Paris 
> > clutching a bottle of wine, mumbling something about "srdndickn 
> > friggun basto TMO sluntrybfurgin"
> > 
> > OffWorld
> 
> Like I said, the paper bag is the only mark of differentiation. :)
>

Don't forget the language on the bottle: is it French or domestic?

Of course, in France, that STILL holds true: except that domestic = French.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:05 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
> > 
> > > > No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
> > > > Does Judy Have A Life?
> > > 
> > > Sure, it's just that most of it undoubtedly revolves around
> > > this forum, and all the people she supposedly doesn't like/
> > > respect, but whose attention it seems she can't do without.
> > 
> > Wrongaroonie, on all three counts.
> > 
> > > > Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
> > > > on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
> > > > understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into
> > > > nearly every post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's too
> > > > short.
> > > 
> > > There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost 
> > > impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> > > them, to one degree or another.
> > 
> > Also *wildly* inaccurate.
> 
> LIAR! :)
> 
> A count of the last hundred posts from 113284 show you involved or 
> referenced (that is, involved "to one degree or amother") in 60% of
> the posts. Take out the somewhat out of the norm discussion on wine
> and you involvement or footprints in posts ratio shoots to almost 90%.
> (It took 3 minutes to do the count). You have out-Spraiged Spraig.
>

Would be more accurate and relevant to count *topics* that Judy participates 
in. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[johnlasher20002000]

Would it be possible to put a "J" or some indication of whether the
thread includes Judy so these posts can be skipped. As I read the list
on a browser which at times is very slow and I have yet to see a
thread which includes Judy worth reading, this indication would be
appreciated.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 5:37 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> You may have a point. Like Judy, I don’t like hypocrisy. I may not see it in
> as many people as she does, but it particularly bugs me in spiritual leaders
> who run the risk of seriously disillusioning sincere people who put their
> trust in them.
>

> H My "trust" in MMY extends to my experience that TM seems to work, 
> and to a 
> lesser extent, that the TM-Sidhis seem to work, at least as far as helping 
> stabilize pure 
> consciousness during activity.

I agree with you there.

> What level of trust do you insist he be worthy of and when did he ever suggest 
> that he was 
> worthy of it?

 not sure I understand the question. I guess I just sort of liked Maharishi’s teaching that higher consciousness correlated with more ethical behavior. Oh, well. You take what you need and you leave the rest.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:16 PM, new.morning wrote:

>>> There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost
>>> impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in
>>> them, to one degree or another.
>>
>> Also *wildly* inaccurate.
>
> LIAR! :)
>
> A count of the last hundred posts from 113284 show you involved or
> referenced (that is, involved "to one degree or amother") in 60% of
> the posts. Take out the somewhat out of the norm discussion on wine
> and you involvement or footprints in posts ratio shoots to almost 90%.
> (It took 3 minutes to do the count). You have out-Spraiged Spraig.

That's what I thought, especially on days like today.  20%, the figure 
she gave--she could probably do better than that in her sleep.

Sal



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 2:27 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

"I find I like something about just about
everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
failing I guess..."

As Amma puts it, even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> > since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> > > them, to one degree or another.
> > 
> > Shes like Brahman -- everywhere you look.
> 
> More like the smog out here in LA. It's dirty and stinks and seems to
> get all over everything some days. Other's it's refreshingly gone.>>>

Oh...that explains a lot about you. You live in LA..(nuff said)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > > > of them.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > > > 
> > > > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > > > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry knows this, too.
> > > >
> > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > a bottle of wine.
> > 
> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > I have no respect.
> > 
> > Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> > who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> > to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
> >
> 
> 
> Perhaps, then, he is the one person in need of your love and 
> compassion more than anyone else.
> 
> Don't you follow the Golden Rule? >>

No the Golden Rule is no good.  
You may do him harm by that method.  
It is better to chop his head off in one foul sweep. He will be 
happier that way and you will have gained some karma points for 
compassion. To follow the Golden Rule in this case would be a 
sadistic act.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[geezerfreak]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> > them, to one degree or another.
> 
> Shes like Brahman -- everywhere you look.

More like the smog out here in LA. It's dirty and stinks and seems to
get all over everything some days. Other's it's refreshingly gone.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:05 PM, geezerfreak wrote:
> 
> > > No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
> > > Does Judy Have A Life?
> > 
> > Sure, it's just that most of it undoubtedly revolves around
> > this forum, and all the people she supposedly doesn't like/
> > respect, but whose attention it seems she can't do without.
> 
> Wrongaroonie, on all three counts.
> 
> > > Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
> > > on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
> > > understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into
> > > nearly every post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's too
> > > short.
> > 
> > There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost 
> > impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> > them, to one degree or another.
> 
> Also *wildly* inaccurate.

LIAR! :)

A count of the last hundred posts from 113284 show you involved or 
referenced (that is, involved "to one degree or amother") in 60% of
the posts. Take out the somewhat out of the norm discussion on wine
and you involvement or footprints in posts ratio shoots to almost 90%.
(It took 3 minutes to do the count). You have out-Spraiged Spraig.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > >
> > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle of 
> wine.>>
> 
> Are you also a wino like Barry? 

> The last I saw him he was unshaven, lying in the gutter in Paris 
> clutching a bottle of wine, mumbling something about "srdndickn 
> friggun basto TMO sluntrybfurgin"
> 
> OffWorld

Like I said, the paper bag is the only mark of differentiation. :)









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > of them.)
> > > 
> > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > 
> > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > 
> > Barry knows this, too.
> >
> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle of 
wine.>>

Are you also a wino like Barry? 
The last I saw him he was unshaven, lying in the gutter in Paris 
clutching a bottle of wine, mumbling something about "srdndickn 
friggun basto TMO sluntrybfurgin"

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> > them, to one degree or another.
> 
> Shes like Brahman -- everywhere you look.

Actually, I probably participate in around
20 percent of the conversations, if that.

Which makes it particularly fascinating that
I seem to loom so large in the minds of those
who claim I'm irrelevant and advocate ignoring
me.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed WHY 1is NEEDED???

[WLeed3]

Why all the fuss about a spokes person when we treat them so 
disrespectfully? BUT WHY a NEED  WHERE IS THE 
NEED
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:05 PM, geezerfreak wrote:

> > No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
> > Does Judy Have A Life?
> 
> Sure, it's just that most of it undoubtedly revolves around
> this forum, and all the people she supposedly doesn't like/
> respect, but whose attention it seems she can't do without.

Wrongaroonie, on all three counts.

> > Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
> > on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
> > understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into
> > nearly every post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's too
> > short.
> 
> There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost 
> impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> them, to one degree or another.

Also *wildly* inaccurate.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

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since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
> them, to one degree or another.

Shes like Brahman -- everywhere you look.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:05 PM, geezerfreak wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>>> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be
>> summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and 
>> me,
>> and I'm not even so sure about you.
>>
>> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and
>> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be
>> because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad 
>> way
>> to go through life.
>>
>> Sal
>>
> No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
> Does Judy Have A Life?

Sure, it's just that most of it undoubtedly revolves around this forum, 
and all the people she supposedly doesn't like/respect, but whose 
attention it seems she can't do without.

> Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
> on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
> understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into nearly every
> post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's too short.

There are times when I do that, other times when it's almost 
impossible, since about 80% of the conversations here have Judy in 
them, to one degree or another.

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:
> >
> 
> > 
> >> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much 
be 
> > summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you 
and me, 
> > and I'm not even so sure about you.
> > 
> > The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
> > interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly 
be 
> > because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty 
sad way 
> > to go through life.
> > 
> > Sal
> >
> No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
> Does Judy Have A Life?

If you only knew, sweet cheeks...

 Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
> on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
> understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into
> nearly every post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's 
> too short.

Yeah, ignore me, just like geezerfreak does.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 3:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> > 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >>   wrote:
>  >>> 
>  >>> No problem. I don¹t drink. But I¹m sorry there 
are so many
>  facets of
> >> > your
>  >>> self which you don¹t respect.
> >> > 
> >> > ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus.. 
Get some rest
> and
> >> > drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
>  >>> 
> >>> >> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if 
someone sees
> >>> >> enemies everywhere, their vision is very much colored by 
what¹s going on
> >>> >> inside of them.
> >> >
> > 
> >> >You mean like your obsession with sex with gurus?
> > 
> You may have a point. Like Judy, I don¹t like hypocrisy. I may not 
see it in
> as many people as she does, but it particularly bugs me in 
spiritual leaders
> who run the risk of seriously disillusioning sincere people who 
put their
> trust in them.
>
It is just the play of karma. Real people are involved, in a 
learning process, which each 'deserves', and has asked for. It is 
what we as souls do, in our journey of knowing ourselves. So, even 
if it looks unfair, it isn't. It is exactly as Mick Jagger said:

"You can't always get what you want, but you always get what you 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 2:52 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >>> >> You still seem silently seething about some perceived slight 
of
> >>> >> Rick's, I am guessing he is on the no lunch list too.
> >> > 
> >> > He's definitely on the list, but not because I'm
> >> > "seething" over a "slight."  Once somebody has stabbed
> >> > you in the back, you tend to wipe them off your lunch
> >> > list PDQ and simply make a mental note that they
> >> > aren't to be trusted.  No "seething" required.
> > 
> As I recall, my backstabbing consisted of telling you I
> couldn¹t be bothered to stay abreast of some long,
> drawn-out verbal battle you were having with someone.
> Probably Barry. My trigger finger on the delete button
> is pretty jumpy when I sense that a post is nothing more
> than a volley in a spitting contest.

No, that wasn't it, Rick.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 3:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> > 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >>   wrote:
>  >>> 
>  >>> No problem. I don¹t drink. But I¹m sorry there are so many
>  facets of
> >> > your
>  >>> self which you don¹t respect.
> >> > 
> >> > ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus.. Get some 
rest
> and
> >> > drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
>  >>> 
> >>> >> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if someone sees
> >>> >> enemies everywhere, their vision is very much colored by what¹s going 
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> inside of them.
> >> >
> > 
> >> >You mean like your obsession with sex with gurus?
> > 
> You may have a point. Like Judy, I don¹t like hypocrisy. I may not see it in
> as many people as she does, but it particularly bugs me in spiritual leaders
> who run the risk of seriously disillusioning sincere people who put their
> trust in them.
>


H My "trust" in MMY extends to my experience that TM seems to work, and 
to a 
lesser extent, that the TM-Sidhis seem to work, at least as far as helping 
stabilize pure 
consciousness during activity.

What level of trust do you insist he be worthy of and when did he ever suggest 
that he was 
worthy of it?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 3:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>   wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No problem. I don’t drink. But I’m sorry there are so many facets of
>>>>> your
>>>>>>> self which you don’t respect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus.. Get some rest and
>>>>> drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
>>> 
>> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if someone sees
>> enemies everywhere, their vision is very much colored by what’s going on
>> inside of them.
>

>You mean like your obsession with sex with gurus?

You may have a point. Like Judy, I don’t like hypocrisy. I may not see it in as many people as she does, but it particularly bugs me in spiritual leaders who run the risk of seriously disillusioning sincere people who put their trust in them.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 2:52 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> You still seem silently seething about some perceived slight of
>> Rick's, I am guessing he is on the no lunch list too.
> 
> He's definitely on the list, but not because I'm
> "seething" over a "slight."  Once somebody has stabbed
> you in the back, you tend to wipe them off your lunch
> list PDQ and simply make a mental note that they
> aren't to be trusted.  No "seething" required.

As I recall, my backstabbing consisted of telling you I couldn’t be bothered to stay abreast of some long, drawn-out verbal battle you were having with someone. Probably Barry. My trigger finger on the delete button is pretty jumpy when I sense that a post is nothing more than a volley in a spitting contest.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>

> 
>> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be 
> summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and me, 
> and I'm not even so sure about you.
> 
> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be 
> because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad way 
> to go through life.
> 
> Sal
>
No shit, Sal. Which brings us back to the (now tired) question of:
Does Judy Have A Life? Clearly, aside from firing off 1001 variations
on the "you missed my point, you clearly are incapable of
understanding, I'm smarter than you) theme she works into nearly every
post, the answer is no. Ignore her. Life's too short.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Sal Sunshine]

For me as well. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are at least two or 
three people I know fairly well  who would fit her 
descriptions--"closet sociopaths," I would call them, since neither 
they nor any of the examples she gave had ever actually been convicted 
of anything--but would do almost anything to advance their various 
agendas, with, I would guess, little or no conscience.  These three 
couldn't be more different in most ways, but they do have that in 
common, and it's scary.
Sal

On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:15 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> Glad you read it.  It was an eye-opener for me.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> The Sociopath Next Door?  Sure, loved it!  I certainly feel like I
>> almost know a couple of the examples she gave.  Wild, and somewhat
>> unsettling.
>>
>> Sal
>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>>
>>> Sal, that reiminds me, did you ever get that book we discussed a 
>>> while
>>> back?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
>>> wrote:

 On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
>>
>> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
>>>
>>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
>>> a bottle of wine.
>
> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> I have no respect.
>>>
>> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this 
>> way.
>
> Applies to you as well, by the way.

 Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be
 summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and
 me,
 and I'm not even so sure about you.

 The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and
 interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be
 because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad
 way
 to go through life.

 Sal

>>>



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > > 
> >>> >> No problem. I don¹t drink. But I¹m sorry there are so many facets of
> >> > your
> >>> >> self which you don¹t respect.
> >> > 
> >> > ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus. Get some rest and
> >> > drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
> > 
> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if someone sees
> enemies everywhere, their vision is very much colored by what¹s going on
> inside of them.
>


You mean like your obsession with sex with gurus?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just out of curiousity what do you think of Louis Jadot Beaujolais 
> (2005)? I am a Claifornia wine snob mostly, though our French 
> neighbor insists on French wine, and I really liked this one and 
> bought a bottle...

Don't know the wine, and to be honest don't know all
that much about California wines. I have learned a 
bit about reasonably-priced French wines since being
here. Bordeaux are as overpriced here as they are 
anywhere else, but there are other regions, and 
"finds" that are truly remarkable. With a little 
searching and tasting, one can find a wine for three 
to five Euros that is vastly superior to wines that 
cost ten times that. 

One region I like a lot here (and that I visited 
while on my recent Road Trip) is the Fitou valley
in Languedoc. Remarkable. The entire region 
(Corbieres) is known for its wines, but rarely
for its outstanding wines. But there is this one
valley that is kind of a secret, because the wine
lovers of Southern France don't want all of the
year's production being shipped off up North or
overseas. So they don't tell anyone that they've
got a world-class valley on their hands, and keep
the majority of the local production local. :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
> > great bottles under $7. 
> 
> Two Buck Chuck!
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine
>
Yes, I will buy a case of their chardonnay sometimes- a very 
respectable table wine, and you can't beat the price!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Whats the difference between a wine connneseur and a wino 
sitting 
> > > on the curb?
> > > 
> > > (the paper bag) :)
> >
> > ...and the wine...I would never call myself a connesieur (or 
however 
> > that is spelled) but I have started to appreciate a wider 
variety 
> > than in the past. Champagne will always be my favorite, though 
> > strictly speaking, and I'm sure Barry appreciates this, I must 
refer 
> > to the domestic variety as sparkling wine...
> 
> If you're a fan of champagne, you should see whether
> your local stores can get ahold of a champagne (or,
> as you've pointed out, really a "sparkling wine") 
> from, of all places, Albuquerque, New Mexico called 
> Gruet. It's really remarkable. 
> 
> It makes no sense whatsover. New Mexico should NOT
> produce a world-quality wine, much less a world-
> quality champagne, but it does. Gruet is the house
> champagne at the Plaza in New York and many other
> classy hotels in the US. Definitely worth a try
> if you run across it.
>
Thanks for the tip! I buy a lot of Korbel, which rocks for 
an 'everyday' sparkling wine, and then of course Vueve Cliquot for 
special occasions! Those are my two stalwarts for price and taste.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Tell me about it. I live in the biggest wine-producing
> > region of France. Our local wine, that we get for three
> > Euros a bottle, is better than any wine -- *any* wine --
> > I ever found in the US for under $30.00 a bottle.
> 
> yea. I would like to see a double-blind taste test on you to verify
> that. "This one has an equisite bouquet, with an oak, maybe almond,
> faint hint of pure cacao third tier after tones ...  " Barry waxes 
on
> rhapsodically ... commenting on a glass --- later revealed to be
> Thunderbird.
> 
> Besides, Sonoma wines are awesome. Especially Ravenswood and a few
> other vinyards I used to hike through daily with my dogs. They 
have a
> unique subtle overtones from  well, natural calls and 
causes ...
> on our walks.
>
Cool! Ridge is also exceptional! Yep, I know French wines are great, 
but California is my fave...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would 
> > agree on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here 
> > they have great bottles under $7. 
> > 
> > Harmony rules.
> 
> Tell me about it. I live in the biggest wine-producing
> region of France. Our local wine, that we get for three
> Euros a bottle, is better than any wine -- *any* wine --
> I ever found in the US for under $30.00 a bottle.
> 
> Life is good.
>
Just out of curiousity what do you think of Louis Jadot Beaujolais 
(2005)? I am a Claifornia wine snob mostly, though our French 
neighbor insists on French wine, and I really liked this one and 
bought a bottle...  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> > Whats the difference between a wine connneseur and a wino sitting 
> > on the curb?
> > 
> > (the paper bag) :)
>
> ...and the wine...I would never call myself a connesieur (or however 
> that is spelled) but I have started to appreciate a wider variety 
> than in the past. Champagne will always be my favorite, though 
> strictly speaking, and I'm sure Barry appreciates this, I must refer 
> to the domestic variety as sparkling wine...

If you're a fan of champagne, you should see whether
your local stores can get ahold of a champagne (or,
as you've pointed out, really a "sparkling wine") 
from, of all places, Albuquerque, New Mexico called 
Gruet. It's really remarkable. 

It makes no sense whatsover. New Mexico should NOT
produce a world-quality wine, much less a world-
quality champagne, but it does. Gruet is the house
champagne at the Plaza in New York and many other
classy hotels in the US. Definitely worth a try
if you run across it.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Tell me about it. I live in the biggest wine-producing
> region of France. Our local wine, that we get for three
> Euros a bottle, is better than any wine -- *any* wine --
> I ever found in the US for under $30.00 a bottle.

yea. I would like to see a double-blind taste test on you to verify
that. "This one has an equisite bouquet, with an oak, maybe almond,
faint hint of pure cacao third tier after tones ...  " Barry waxes on
rhapsodically ... commenting on a glass --- later revealed to be
Thunderbird.

Besides, Sonoma wines are awesome. Especially Ravenswood and a few
other vinyards I used to hike through daily with my dogs. They have a
unique subtle overtones from  well, natural calls and causes ...
on our walks.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

I am on the lowest level of wine snobbery.  One click up from Shaw's
are a bunch of wines that are wy better.



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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
> > great bottles under $7. 
> 
> Two Buck Chuck!
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
> great bottles under $7. 

Two Buck Chuck!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

When I was in France didn't drink.  I need to get over there and
correct that omission in my life experiences. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would 
> > agree on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here 
> > they have great bottles under $7. 
> > 
> > Harmony rules.
> 
> Tell me about it. I live in the biggest wine-producing
> region of France. Our local wine, that we get for three
> Euros a bottle, is better than any wine -- *any* wine --
> I ever found in the US for under $30.00 a bottle.
> 
> Life is good.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

Yes, I am in Northern Virginia. Thanks for the tip, I don't think I
have tried the one you mentioned so I will look out for it.  We also
have a lot of Total Beverage or Total Wine stores here.  They have
great deals on an amazing selection.


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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
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> > I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would 
> agree
> > on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
> > great bottles under $7. 
> > 
> > Harmony rules.
> > 
> Yep- Trader Joes are out here. I am practically religious about 
> DeSante Sauvignon Blanc as one of the best- just tried it a couple of 
> weeks ago.
> 
> Curtis are you in the DC area?
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would 
> agree on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here 
> they have great bottles under $7. 
> 
> Harmony rules.

Tell me about it. I live in the biggest wine-producing
region of France. Our local wine, that we get for three
Euros a bottle, is better than any wine -- *any* wine --
I ever found in the US for under $30.00 a bottle.

Life is good.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would 
agree
> on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
> great bottles under $7. 
> 
> Harmony rules.
> 
Yep- Trader Joes are out here. I am practically religious about 
DeSante Sauvignon Blanc as one of the best- just tried it a couple of 
weeks ago.

Curtis are you in the DC area?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

Thanks for the tip, I'll start taking mine out from now on.  I thought
it kept white wines colder!


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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>   wrote:
> > >
> > > "I find I like something about just about
> > > everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
> > > failing I guess..."
> > > 
> > > My brother.  Word.
> > > 
> > you pick the white or red- I'll do the champagne?
> >
> 
> Whats the difference between a wine connneseur and a wino sitting on
> the curb?
> 
> 
> 
> see below
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>   wrote:
> > >
> > > "I find I like something about just about
> > > everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
> > > failing I guess..."
> > > 
> > > My brother.  Word.
> > > 
> > you pick the white or red- I'll do the champagne?
> >
> 
> Whats the difference between a wine connneseur and a wino sitting 
on
> the curb?
> 
> 
> 
> see below
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (the paper bag) :)
>
...and the wine...I would never call myself a connesieur (or however 
that is spelled) but I have started to appreciate a wider variety 
than in the past. Champagne will always be my favorite, though 
strictly speaking, and I'm sure Barry appreciates this, I must refer 
to the domestic variety as sparkling wine...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

I'll bet there is a nice Sauvignon Blanc out there that we would agree
on.  Do you have a Trader Joe's out your way?  Around here they have
great bottles under $7. 

Harmony rules.


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> > "I find I like something about just about
> > everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
> > failing I guess..."
> > 
> > My brother.  Word.
> > 
> you pick the white or red- I'll do the champagne?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

Glad you read it.  It was an eye-opener for me.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> The Sociopath Next Door?  Sure, loved it!  I certainly feel like I 
> almost know a couple of the examples she gave.  Wild, and somewhat 
> unsettling.
> 
> Sal
> On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > Sal, that reiminds me, did you ever get that book we discussed a while
> > back?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> 
>  on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> >
> > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > a bottle of wine.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> >>> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> >>> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> >>> I have no respect.
> >
>  Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.
> >>>
> >>> Applies to you as well, by the way.
> >>
> >> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be
> >> summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and 
> >> me,
> >> and I'm not even so sure about you.
> >>
> >> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and
> >> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be
> >> because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad 
> >> way
> >> to go through life.
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
>  
> > > > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > > > a bottle of wine.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > > > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > > > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > > > I have no respect.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> > > > who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> > > > to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
> > > >
> > > I don't think he is all that vicious.
> > 
> > Go back and reread his posts to you, and/or
> > those about me and/or Lawson.  You have a
> > strange definition of viciousness.
> > 
> >  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?
> > 
> > Having lost sleep or money because of something
> > a person said is the only thing that would cause
> > you not to respect them?  That the person lies
> > about people on a public forum doesn't bother you?
> > 
> > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > with you either.
> >
> I support your dedication and high standards. I am just more of 
> a 'manana' type of person...I find I like something about just
> about everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes--
> my failing I guess...

News flash: Not respecting liars and being able to
find something to like about them are not mutually
exclusive.

Nor are finding something to like about a person
you don't respect and not wanting to break bread
or drink wine with that person mutually exclusive.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I apparently mistook your criteria for having no respect
> for and/or not having lunch with people as being more than 
> soley "being a liar". For example, you have said you won't
> have lunch with, and or don't respect, Rick or Jim, but for
> reasons, apparently, other than lying.

Supporting liars, in those two cases.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
  wrote:
> >
> > "I find I like something about just about
> > everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
> > failing I guess..."
> > 
> > My brother.  Word.
> > 
> you pick the white or red- I'll do the champagne?
>

Whats the difference between a wine connneseur and a wino sitting on
the curb?



see below








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

I apparently mistook your criteria for having no respect for and/or
not having lunch with people as being more than soley "being a liar".
For example, you have said you won't have lunch with, and or don't
respect, Rick or Jim, but for reasons, apparently, other than lying.




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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  

> > >
> > >  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > > > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?
> > 
> > .. 
> > > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > > with you either.
> > 
> > So, no lunch with Curtis, Barry or Jim.
> > 
> > Vaj would seem to be a difinite no, though he appears
> > to be long gone. As is Cliff.
> 
> I'm not aware that Cliff ever lied, actually.


So would you have lunch with Cliff? Do you respect him?

 
> > I am guessing I am out, "convos go nowhere" .
> 
> Have you been lying?  If so, I haven't noticed.

No I don't lie. I misunderstand sometimes. But try to correct them.

So would you have lunch with me? (Not an invitiation -- just a
hypothetical.) 



> 
> > Geezer definately is out.

> Where did he lie?

Per above, lying was not the sole factor I was focusing on. But, I
really don't think he is Bevan Morris and don't think that "MMY hasn't
called someone that in years" is an accurate reflection of things.

So would you have lunch with Geezer? Do you respect him?

 
> > You still seem silently seething about some perceived slight of
> > Rick's, I am guessing he is on the no lunch list too.
> 
> He's definitely on the list, but not because I'm
> "seething" over a "slight."  Once somebody has stabbed
> you in the back, you tend to wipe them off your lunch
> list PDQ and simply make a mental note that they
> aren't to be trusted.  No "seething" required.

 
Did he lie? If not, there do appear to be other criteria for you not
having respect for people and not having lunch with them. 


> > Sal is definately out.
> 
> When Sal is on the losing end of an argument that
> she started, she starts using dishonest debating
> tactics, but they're so transparent they hardly
> constitute lying.  As far as I'm aware, she's never
> lied on this forum.

So would you have lunch with Sal? Do you respect for her?

> 
> > Maybe Dr. Pete, but you know he would just proposition you for 
> > tantra sex (for new readers -- old post referenece, jk)
> 
> Never Dr. Pete!  He's not a liar (that I know of).

So he DOES want to have Tantra sex with you!
 
> > If you would eat with Off-World and Peter Klutz -- seeing them
> > as the two "sane ones" -- all I can say is "whew".
> 
> Again, I don't recall ever seeing either of them lie.

I guess you are making a distinction between not having grip on things
and lying. Good point.
 
 
> You left out gerbal.

How about lunch with nablus? Sounds like an interesting convo. :)
 



> > It seems odd that you interact copiuously with a group
> > of people that you appear to have no respect for -- and
> > would not even break bread with. Care to share the
> > motivation?
> 
> They're a subgroup of people I *do* have respect
> for, enjoy interacting with, and would break bread
> with any time.  I'd vastly prefer it if that subgroup
> would just go away until they learn to be honest, but
> failing that, I'm going to call attention to it when
> they lie, because such people make life more difficult
> for everybody.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > My excuse has always been, 
> > 
> > "The French hate the Germans
> > The Germans hate the Poles.
> > Italians hate Yugoslavs
> > South Africans hate the Dutch
> > And I don't like anybody very much"
> > 
> > KT
> >
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 2:53 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>   wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No problem. I don’t drink. But I’m sorry there are so many 
> facets of
>>>>> your
>>>>>>> self which you don’t respect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus.. Get some 
> rest and
>>>>> drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
>>> 
>> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if
>> someone sees enemies everywhere, their vision is very much
>> colored by what’s going on inside of them.
> 
> You're referring to Barry seeing True Believers under
> the bed, right?

Anybody constantly at war with others has got some inner work to do. That includes all of us to some degree, but there’s quite a wide bell curve.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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The Sociopath Next Door?  Sure, loved it!  I certainly feel like I 
almost know a couple of the examples she gave.  Wild, and somewhat 
unsettling.

Sal
On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:08 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> Sal, that reiminds me, did you ever get that book we discussed a while
> back?
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:

 on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
>
> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> a bottle of wine.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
>>> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
>>> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
>>> I have no respect.
>
 Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.
>>>
>>> Applies to you as well, by the way.
>>
>> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be
>> summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and 
>> me,
>> and I'm not even so sure about you.
>>
>> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and
>> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be
>> because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad 
>> way
>> to go through life.
>>
>> Sal
>>
>
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> "I find I like something about just about
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> failing I guess..."
> 
> My brother.  Word.
> 
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
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> Sal, that reiminds me, did you ever get that book we
> discussed a while back?

That would be "The Sociopath Next Door," right?

Gosh, it's so funny you would bring it up in this
context.  I didn't realize you thought Barry was
a sociopath.

I don't think he is, by the way, despite his
pathological lying.  That's a manifestation of
fear, not sociopathy.







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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > > 
> >>> >> No problem. I don¹t drink. But I¹m sorry there are so many 
facets of
> >> > your
> >>> >> self which you don¹t respect.
> >> > 
> >> > ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus. Get some 
rest and
> >> > drink lots of fluids. It will pass.
> > 
> OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if
> someone sees enemies everywhere, their vision is very much
> colored by what¹s going on inside of them.

You're referring to Barry seeing True Believers under
the bed, right?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> >  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?
> 
> .. 
> > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > with you either.
> 
> So, no lunch with Curtis, Barry or Jim.
> 
> Vaj would seem to be a difinite no, though he appears
> to be long gone. As is Cliff.

I'm not aware that Cliff ever lied, actually.

> I am guessing I am out, "convos go nowhere" .

Have you been lying?  If so, I haven't noticed.

> Geezer definately is out.

Where did he lie?

> You still seem silently seething about some perceived slight of
> Rick's, I am guessing he is on the no lunch list too.

He's definitely on the list, but not because I'm
"seething" over a "slight."  Once somebody has stabbed
you in the back, you tend to wipe them off your lunch
list PDQ and simply make a mental note that they
aren't to be trusted.  No "seething" required.

> Sal is definately out.

When Sal is on the losing end of an argument that
she started, she starts using dishonest debating
tactics, but they're so transparent they hardly
constitute lying.  As far as I'm aware, she's never
lied on this forum.

> Maybe Dr. Pete, but you know he would just proposition you for 
> tantra sex (for new readers -- old post referenece, jk)

Never Dr. Pete!  He's not a liar (that I know of).

> I seem to recall Feste is on your bad list -- though perhaps I am
> mistaken.

You're mistaken.  Feste once misunderstood something
I said and reacted badly, but I think we cleared that
up.

> Shemp is out. 

Shemp's definitely out.

> If you would eat with Off-World and Peter Klutz -- seeing them
> as the two "sane ones" -- all I can say is "whew".

Again, I don't recall ever seeing either of them lie.

> Spairag I guess would make the list.

Good grief, no.  Lawson is honest to a fault.

> Anyone else?

You left out gerbal.

> It seems odd that you interact copiuously with a group
> of people that you appear to have no respect for -- and
> would not even break bread with. Care to share the
> motivation?

They're a subgroup of people I *do* have respect
for, enjoy interacting with, and would break bread
with any time.  I'd vastly prefer it if that subgroup
would just go away until they learn to be honest, but
failing that, I'm going to call attention to it when
they lie, because such people make life more difficult
for everybody.




> 
> My excuse has always been, 
> 
> "The French hate the Germans
> The Germans hate the Poles.
> Italians hate Yugoslavs
> South Africans hate the Dutch
> And I don't like anybody very much"
> 
> KT
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 2:39 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
>> No problem. I don’t drink. But I’m sorry there are so many facets of
> your
>> self which you don’t respect.
> 
> ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus. Get some rest and
> drink lots of fluids. It will pass.

OK. Just no wine with Judy I guess. But I do feel that if someone sees enemies everywhere, their vision is very much colored by what’s going on inside of them.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 1:45 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
>  >>> 
>  >>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
>  >>> a bottle of wine.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> >> > I have no respect.
>  >>> 
> >>> >> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt
this way.
> >> > 
> >> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> > 
> No problem. I don¹t drink. But I¹m sorry there are so many facets of
your
> self which you don¹t respect.

ut oh. You caught the Rory-moodmaking-maximus virus. Get some rest and
drink lots of fluids. It will pass.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 1:45 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
>  >>> 
>  >>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I 
share
>  >>> a bottle of wine.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> >> > I have no respect.
>  >>> 
> >>> >> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt 
this way.
> >> > 
> >> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> > 
> No problem. I don¹t drink.

You do eat, though, I suspect (see above).

> But I¹m sorry there are so many facets of your
> self which you don¹t respect.

I'm sorry you feel the aspects of your self that
lie and tolerate liars are worthy of respect.

It's why I'd never share a meal or a bottle of
wine with you.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>
> >> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> >>> a bottle of wine.
> >
> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > I have no respect.
> >>>
> >> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this 
way.
> >
> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> 
> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty
> much be summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy
> except you and me, and I'm not even so sure about you.

Actually not, Sal.  I know a great many people
who find lying and tolerance of lying as appalling
as I do.  (We feel it's indifference to lying that
gave us the presidency of George Bush.)

> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly
> be because there are so few people she actually does like?

No, it couldn't, actually.  I like most of the
people on this forum.  And I interact with the
few liars here because I believe liars need to
be exposed and publicly scorned.

> Pretty sad way to go through life.

As I've said before: Life is tough enough when
everyone is being as honest and accurate as they
possibly can be.  There is no excuse whatsoever
for making it more difficult.

Living in the kind of moral vacuum that allows
people to lie is what's a pretty sad way to go
through life, in my view.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?

.. 
> I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> with you either.

So, no lunch with Curtis, Barry or Jim.

Vaj would seem to be a difinite no, though he appears to be long gone.
As is Cliff.

I am guessing I am out, "convos go nowhere" .

Geezer definately is out.

You still seem silently seething about some perceived slight of
Rick's, I am guessing he is on the no lunch list too.

Sal is definately out.

Maybe Dr. Pete, but you know he would just proposition you for tantra
sex (for new readers -- old post referenece, jk)

I seem to recall Feste is on your bad list -- though perhaps I am
mistaken.

Shemp is out. 

If you would eat with Off-World and Peter Klutz -- seeing them as the
two "sane ones" -- all I can say is "whew".

Spairag I guess would make the list.

Anyone else?

It seems odd that you interact copiuously with a group of people that
you appear to have no respect for -- and would not even break bread
with. Care to share the motivation?

My excuse has always been, 

"The French hate the Germans
The Germans hate the Poles.
Italians hate Yugoslavs
South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much"

KT









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 1:45 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
>>>>>>> a bottle of wine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
>>>>> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
>>>>> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
>>>>> I have no respect.
>>> 
>> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield’s friends felt this way.
> 
> Applies to you as well, by the way.

No problem. I don’t drink. But I’m sorry there are so many facets of your self which you don’t respect.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

"I find I like something about just about
everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my
failing I guess..."

My brother.  Word.





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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
>  
> > > > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > > > a bottle of wine.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > > > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > > > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > > > I have no respect.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> > > > who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> > > > to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
> > > >
> > > I don't think he is all that vicious.
> > 
> > Go back and reread his posts to you, and/or
> > those about me and/or Lawson.  You have a
> > strange definition of viciousness.
> > 
> >  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?
> > 
> > Having lost sleep or money because of something
> > a person said is the only thing that would cause
> > you not to respect them?  That the person lies
> > about people on a public forum doesn't bother you?
> > 
> > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > with you either.
> >
> I support your dedication and high standards. I am just more of 
> a 'manana' type of person...I find I like something about just about 
> everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my 
> failing I guess...
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> >> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> >>> >> a bottle of wine.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> >> > I have no respect.
> > 
> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.
>
Speaking of Rodney-- who I think is a comic genius-- he's on a promo 
on TV: "I drink too much...I just gave my doctor a urine sample, and 
there was an olive in it..."





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> > >
> > > on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > >>> >> a bottle of wine.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > > >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > > >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > > >> > I have no respect.
> > > > 
> > > Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt 
> > > this way.
> > 
> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> 
> And to Jim:
> 
> > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > with you either.
> 
> As I said before:
> > 
> > Besides, it pisses them off no end, and without
> > exception whenever these folks get pissed off they
> > lose control and start acting more like True Believers
> > than ever. And they've never, in all these years,
> > figured out that they're being set up to demonstrate 
> > who and what they are... :-)

Right, of course only True Believers find people
who lie, and those who support them, to be unworthy
of respect.

If you find someone who objects to other people
lying, you can be absolutely sure they're a True
Believer.  Lying just doesn't bother normal people.

And truly "spiritual" people care even less.

Too bad Eric Hoffer is no longer with us.  I'm
sure he would have been abashed to realize he'd
failed to include this among his True Believer
criteria.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > > of them.)
> > > > 
> > > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > > 
> > > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > > 
> > > Barry knows this, too.
> > >
> > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > a bottle of wine.
> 
> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> I have no respect.
> 
> Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
>


Perhaps, then, he is the one person in need of your love and 
compassion more than anyone else.

Don't you follow the Golden Rule?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
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> > > on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > >>> >> a bottle of wine.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > > >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > > >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > > >> > I have no respect.
> > > > 
> > > Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt 
> > > this way.
> > 
> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> 
> And to Jim:
> 
> > I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> > with you either.

Oh well, and I'm getting pretty good at picking out a good bottle 
too...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > > wrote:
> 
> > > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > > a bottle of wine.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > > I have no respect.
> > > 
> > > Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> > > who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> > > to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
> > >
> > I don't think he is all that vicious.
> 
> Go back and reread his posts to you, and/or
> those about me and/or Lawson.  You have a
> strange definition of viciousness.
> 
>  As for being a liar, nothing 
> > he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?
> 
> Having lost sleep or money because of something
> a person said is the only thing that would cause
> you not to respect them?  That the person lies
> about people on a public forum doesn't bother you?
> 
> I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> with you either.
>
I support your dedication and high standards. I am just more of 
a 'manana' type of person...I find I like something about just about 
everybody- even those I strongly disagree with sometimes-- my 
failing I guess...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty 
> much be summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy 
> except you and me, and I'm not even so sure about you.
> 
> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it 
> possibly be because there are so few people she actually 
> does like?  Pretty sad way to go through life.

Even though the film was paid for and directed
by a friend of mine, until recently I had never
been able to see the "What the Bleep" movie.

When I did, there was a section in there where
they were talking about how people's brains get
so fucked up and programmed to expect certain
inputs that they become unable to process any
*other* inputs. So, for example, if a person
had gotten hooked early in life that the only
feedback they were likely to get from the world
was in terms of conflict and being in opposition
to someone, they might tend to try for the rest
of their entire lives to create conflict every-
where they go.

But that's probably just a non-sequitur. I now
return you to your normally scheduled bitch.

:-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > >>> >> a bottle of wine.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > >> > I have no respect.
> > > 
> > Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt 
> > this way.
> 
> Applies to you as well, by the way.

And to Jim:

> I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
> with you either.


As I said before:
> 
> Besides, it pisses them off no end, and without
> exception whenever these folks get pissed off they
> lose control and start acting more like True Believers
> than ever. And they've never, in all these years,
> figured out that they're being set up to demonstrate 
> who and what they are... :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[curtisdeltablues]

Sal, that reiminds me, did you ever get that book we discussed a while
back?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>
> >> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> >>> a bottle of wine.
> >
> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > I have no respect.
> >>>
> >> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.
> >
> > Applies to you as well, by the way.
> 
> Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be 
> summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and me, 
> and I'm not even so sure about you.
> 
> The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
> interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be 
> because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad way 
> to go through life.
> 
> Sal
>







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:45 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
>>> a bottle of wine.
>
> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> I have no respect.
>>>
>> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.
>
> Applies to you as well, by the way.

Judy's attitude towards the entire human race could pretty much be 
summed up by the old joke:  Everyone I know is crazy except you and me, 
and I'm not even so sure about you.

The question remains: why would she want to keep posting and 
interacting with people she dislikes so much?  Could it possibly be 
because there are so few people she actually does like?  Pretty sad way 
to go through life.

Sal



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> >> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> >>> >> a bottle of wine.
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> >> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> >> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> >> > I have no respect.
> > 
> Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield¹s friends felt this way.

Applies to you as well, by the way.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:

> > > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > > a bottle of wine.
> > 
> > Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> > applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> > either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> > I have no respect.
> > 
> > Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> > who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> > to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
> >
> I don't think he is all that vicious.

Go back and reread his posts to you, and/or
those about me and/or Lawson.  You have a
strange definition of viciousness.

 As for being a liar, nothing 
> he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it?

Having lost sleep or money because of something
a person said is the only thing that would cause
you not to respect them?  That the person lies
about people on a public forum doesn't bother you?

I guess I wouldn't want to share a bottle of wine
with you either.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed





on 9/8/06 12:57 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
>> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
>> a bottle of wine.
> 
> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> I have no respect.

Fortunately, not all of Rodney Dangerfield’s friends felt this way.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > > of them.)
> > > > 
> > > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > > 
> > > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > > 
> > > Barry knows this, too.
> > >
> > You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> > a bottle of wine.
> 
> Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
> applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
> either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
> I have no respect.
> 
> Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
> who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
> to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.
>
I don't think he is all that vicious. As for being a liar, nothing 
he has said has caused me to lose money or sleep, so what of it? 
Anyway, thanks for the immediate RSVP...(!)

Speaking of wine, I discovered a great wine shop around here and can 
highly recommend Dogwood Cellars Zinfandel (2003) and DeSante 
Sauvignon Blanc. Both California wines, and really good!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > > of them.)
> > > 
> > > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> > 
> > P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> > farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> > 
> > Barry knows this, too.
> >
> You are automatically invited when Barry and I share
> a bottle of wine.

Thanks, but no thanks.  What I told Curtis awhile back
applies to Barry as well: I have no interest in sharing
either a meal or a bottle of wine with someone for whom
I have no respect.

Barry is a vicious liar.  I know it, you know it, anyone
who follows his posts knows it.  Why anyone would want
to be friendly with such a person is beyond me.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > > of them.)
> > 
> > Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.
> 
> P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
> farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.
> 
> Barry knows this, too.
>
You are automatically invited when Barry and I share a bottle of wine.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
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> >
> > No offense meant, but I have seen you make up a couple of 
fantasies  
> > recently, so those who don't want their fantasies disturbed is 
not 
> > the exclusive club you are imagining it to be.
> > 
> > You stated recently that I was angry and fearful of powerful 
words, 
> > curse words, until proven incorrect (my post #99488), and then 
went 
> > on to say that the reason I thought a cautious approach to TM 
was 
> > due to repetition of this value by Maharishi. Also wrong (my 20 
> > years of training have formed that opinion of mine).
> 
> Well, it's only your *claim* that my theories aren't
> correct, right? 
> 
> I find it interesting that the fantasy you *didn't* 
> mention is the one in which you claimed that I was
> geezerfreak. In fact, you haven't mentioned that
> particular fiasco since it became obvious that the
> superior perception you claim that allows you to 
> tell who is enlightened and who isn't is...uh...a
> bit fallible.
> 
> So we've got one fantasy on your part that was 
> clearly and provably false, and two on my part that 
> you *claim* are false, but can never prove. 
> 
> > I think you are probably a cool guy, and we'd enjoy a bottle of 
wine 
> > together if in the same place. 
> 
> I suspect that's true.
> 
> > However, your tendency to believe in 
> > this large amorphous group of True Believers out there 
somewhere, 
> > who are all fearful and angry about the Shining Truth seems kind 
> > of compulsive to me.
> 
> I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> of them.) And I will keep referring to them as True 
> Believers because I believe that Eric Hoffer's term
> is the most accurate for the role that they have
> chosen for themselves. 
> 
> Besides, it pisses them off no end, and without
> exception whenever these folks get pissed off they 
> lose control and start acting more like True Believers 
> than ever. And they've never, in all these years,
> out that they're being set up to demonstrate who
> and what they are...  :-)
>
Hi, and thanks for your response. I was concerned that we'd get into 
some kind of crazy argument over all of this, and glad we didn't. 
Here's to hoping for that bottle of wine one of these days my friend!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> > "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> > a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> > of them.)
> 
> Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.

P.S.: On the scale of True Believership, I am actually
farther away from the TB end of the scale than Jim is.

Barry knows this, too.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't think I've ever described this group as 
> "large." On this forum I count four of them, with
> a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
> of them.)

Nor am I, nor is Lawson, as Barry knows.

 And I will keep referring to them as True 
> Believers because I believe that Eric Hoffer's term
> is the most accurate for the role that they have
> chosen for themselves. 

In fact, in my and Lawson's case, Barry *knows*
Eric Hoffer's term is inaccurate.

Barry is a liar, as I believe I may have mentioned
a time or two here.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No offense meant, but I have seen you make up a couple of fantasies  
> recently, so those who don't want their fantasies disturbed is not 
> the exclusive club you are imagining it to be.
> 
> You stated recently that I was angry and fearful of powerful words, 
> curse words, until proven incorrect (my post #99488), and then went 
> on to say that the reason I thought a cautious approach to TM was 
> due to repetition of this value by Maharishi. Also wrong (my 20 
> years of training have formed that opinion of mine).

Well, it's only your *claim* that my theories aren't
correct, right? 

I find it interesting that the fantasy you *didn't* 
mention is the one in which you claimed that I was
geezerfreak. In fact, you haven't mentioned that
particular fiasco since it became obvious that the
superior perception you claim that allows you to 
tell who is enlightened and who isn't is...uh...a
bit fallible.

So we've got one fantasy on your part that was 
clearly and provably false, and two on my part that 
you *claim* are false, but can never prove. 

> I think you are probably a cool guy, and we'd enjoy a bottle of wine 
> together if in the same place. 

I suspect that's true.

> However, your tendency to believe in 
> this large amorphous group of True Believers out there somewhere, 
> who are all fearful and angry about the Shining Truth seems kind 
> of compulsive to me.

I don't think I've ever described this group as 
"large." On this forum I count four of them, with
a possible fifth appearing lately. (You're not one 
of them.) And I will keep referring to them as True 
Believers because I believe that Eric Hoffer's term
is the most accurate for the role that they have
chosen for themselves. 

Besides, it pisses them off no end, and without
exception whenever these folks get pissed off they 
lose control and start acting more like True Believers 
than ever. And they've never, in all these years,
out that they're being set up to demonstrate who
and what they are...  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 
> About the only people left who have managed that 
> are the long-term meditators who carefully never 
> went to TTC and never got involved with the movement. 
> They wisely did this *so that* they could preserve 
> their illusions about Maharishi, enlightenment, and
> the TMO. It also helps to have never met Maharishi 
> or been in the same room with him.

I don't believe this group exists. No one on this board that I have 
read is this naive. You say that people should be treated like 
adults and yet you presume there is a group of childish minds here.

> 
> But lately even this is not enough, because even
> though these folks have tried their best never to
> hear anything that disturbs their fantasies, 

No offense meant, but I have seen you make up a couple of fantasies  
recently, so those who don't want their fantasies disturbed is not 
the exclusive club you are imagining it to be.

You stated recently that I was angry and fearful of powerful words, 
curse words, until proven incorrect (my post #99488), and then went 
on to say that the reason I thought a cautious approach to TM was 
due to repetition of this value by Maharishi. Also wrong (my 20 
years of training have formed that opinion of mine).

I think you are probably a cool guy, and we'd enjoy a bottle of wine 
together if in the same place. However, your tendency to believe in 
this large amorphous group of True Believers out there somewhere, 
who are all fearful and angry about the Shining Truth seems kind of 
compulsive to me.

As I said yesterday, I believe that everyone who joins a spiritual 
movement goes through initial phases of brainwashing, proselytizing, 
working for the organization, disillusionment, etc. Its a natural 
part of spiritual maturity.

Continuing to harp about those who may not have torn down all of 
their illusions about the TMO and Maharishi may be a helpful 
exercise for you, but I seriously doubt many of those folks hang out 
here. Even if there are a couple lurking, how much credence do you 
think they are giving an ex Rama, ex TM teacher who calls them angry 
and fearful?

they've
> heard enough that even they don't claim to support
> the TMO and Maharishi any more. In fact, when called
> TM TBs, they become irate and attack the person who 
> called them that.

Again, this illusory group you have created with its imagined anger 
and attacks doesn't exist.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's hard finding someone who has kept themselves 
> far enough away from the TMO to still be willing 
> to defend it.
> 
> About the only people left who have managed that 
> are the long-term meditators who carefully never 
> went to TTC and never got involved with the movement. 
> They wisely did this *so that* they could preserve 
> their illusions about Maharishi, enlightenment, and
> the TMO. It also helps to have never met Maharishi 
> or been in the same room with him.
> 
> But lately even this is not enough, because even
> though these folks have tried their best never to
> hear anything that disturbs their fantasies, they've
> heard enough that even they don't claim to support
> the TMO and Maharishi any more. In fact, when called
> TM TBs, they become irate and attack the person who
> called them that.

[Somehow I suspect Barry's referring to me here.
Not sure why he's so afraid to utter my name.]

Barry, as I've said a number of times here, is
a liar.

Just how "recently" would that be, Barry?  As
"recently" as 11 years ago?

A small selection of quotes from my posts to
alt.m.t:

[March 3, 1995]
Let me put it plainly:  I think the movement *sucks*.

[Me, July 16, 1997]
I'd be the last to contest the notion that the
movement *per se* sucks big-time and often makes
incredibly stupid decisions. 

[November 18, 1997]
The organization sucks.  So what else is new?

[November 26, 1997]
Speaking for myself, the red flags were raised
long ago with regard to movement abuses.  The movement,
as I've said here many times, sucks.

[April 1, 1998]
To sum up those reservations in one phrase (which
I've used often here), the organization *sucks*. 

[October 31, 1998]
In my opinion, the true nature of the TM organization
is that it sucks big-time.

Barry was present on alt.m.t and participating
in many if not all the discussions from which
these quotes were taken.

And just to drive the point home, from a post of
mine to Barry on FFL from July of this year:

"Ah, but I don't care about the movement. I think
it sucks, as I've said many, many times."

So there's no question about it, Barry knows what
I think of the movement and has known for many
years.  He is lying through his teeth above.

(He also knows I've made many other criticisms of
the TMO and MMY here, but unfortunately the Advanced
Search is broken, so I can't quote them.)

As to his oft-repeated canard that I never took
TTC because I wanted to "preserve [my] illusions,"
in fact I didn't take TTC because I *had no illusions*
about the movement and didn't want to get so heavily
involved with an organization I thought sucked.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help Wanted - Spokesperson Needed

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rick, them is fightin' words.  As soon as there comes a public 
> defender of the TMorg faith here you are in trouble.
> 
> Unless appointed otherwise, they do need a public defender here, 
> someone who could stand in the dock and give it back when charged.  
> I'd still like to see RudraJoe take on the postion of public 
> defender of the TMorg and MMY here by appointment.  As a public 
> service.  If anyone is up to it i do think his mind could be.
> 
> I was sorry when Ken Wood bowed out recently.  The current 
> replacement for Jane Hopson in TMorg fund raising, Jonathan Worster 
> a long time ago too used to post.  They gave the brilliant true-
> believer reply in short bursts but withered and retreated in the 
> public crossfire.  It is kind of an indefensible postion being a 
> defender of the TMOrg and MMY almost anywhere now, to the point of 
> having to crawl on bellies.  Position wanted, defender of the 
> faithful at FFL.  Public service minded volunteers wanted. Apply on 
> line @FFL.  Just send sample of your writing and thinking to FFL.  

It's hard finding someone who has kept themselves 
far enough away from the TMO to still be willing 
to defend it.

About the only people left who have managed that 
are the long-term meditators who carefully never 
went to TTC and never got involved with the movement. 
They wisely did this *so that* they could preserve 
their illusions about Maharishi, enlightenment, and
the TMO. It also helps to have never met Maharishi 
or been in the same room with him.

But lately even this is not enough, because even
though these folks have tried their best never to
hear anything that disturbs their fantasies, they've
heard enough that even they don't claim to support
the TMO and Maharishi any more. In fact, when called
TM TBs, they become irate and attack the person who
called them that.

So my feeling is that if you want to fill the position
of Public Defender of the TMO, you're gonna have to
*recruit* for it. Find a place where unemployment is
out of control and people are desperate for a job,
any job, and then find someone who is willing to
read any script placed in front of him for a price.
To be certain that he doesn't improvise or deviate
from the script in any way, you should make sure that
the guy does NOT start TM. Otherwise, he might find
out that many of the claims he'll be reading about 
it aren't true. Also, he should never learn or be
allowed to witness yogic flying, only photographs
of people in mid-air, *as if* they were flying.

Follow these guidelines and I'm sure you'll find a
good spokesperson soon. Just pick some guy who looks
fairly healthy and smiles a lot and who can read a
script. It won't *matter* that the guy doesn't do TM
and never has -- if time has shown anything with 
regard to the TMO, it's that appearance is more
important than reality.

:-)







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