--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Barry wrote: I find this attitude of setting people straight
about the reality of enlightenment not only creepy, but
dangerous.
Edg:
I'll
Edg:
You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part
of my freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would
be the duty or privilege of setting folks straight
about enlightenment, and if the folks want to tussle,
well, the enlightened can give what's given to
them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone.
Have you seen him at all ?
On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
This is the language of the religious fanatic.
If I believed in a God, I'd thank Him that Edg has no
access to real power over other human beings other than
in the dim recesses of his dim mind. If he did, he'd be
dangerous. In reality, he's just a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barry wrote: I find this attitude of setting people straight
about the reality of enlightenment not only creepy, but
dangerous.
Edg:
I'll deal with each point of Barry's below -- only cuz it'll be
a good therapy
Yes.
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone.
Have you seen him at all ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes.
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually
We've met.
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes.
nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
Yes, I am completely lacking in perfect intellignence. You though
have apparently perfected it! I am also as you say incapable
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by some of
its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences. I
really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') enlightened
explanations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
you, or me, if you want to see it that way- just calling you on
your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, THAT makes sense! I remember the terrific battles that would
rage within me as I approached my enlightenment; the revealing of my
Self-- especially when I would practice TM- Transcendental
Meditation- *lol* the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by
some of
its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences. I
really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') enlightened
I didn't mean to address you in particular. I was just making a joke about a
general vibe on this forum.
In general though, I think it's prolly impossible to say, I am enlightened
without sounding like a pompous ass for a lot of different reasons. So that
puts someone who thinks they're
On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:
In general though, I think it's prolly impossible to say, I am
enlightened without sounding like a pompous ass for a lot of
different reasons. So that puts someone who thinks they're
enlightened in the difficult position of either
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by
some of
its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences.
I
really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Now, THAT makes sense! I remember the terrific battles that would
rage within me as I approached my enlightenment; the revealing of my
Self-- especially when I would practice TM- Transcendental
Meditation- *lol*
This time, Rory, you are not speaking from any kind of experience. Have you
seen war? You may be able to argue that most of us are living in a world of
psychological misery of our own making because we are not enlightened, but we
are still spoiled Americans with the money, leisure, and comfort
Here's the really funny part. They are so terrified of the coming
tyranny, terror, fascism, and torture out there and completely
unaware that the coming nightmare is Disneyland compared to the
absolute tyranny, terror, fascism, and torture they are subjecting
themselves to every moment --
R: Here's the really funny part. They are so terrified of the coming
tyranny, terror, fascism, and torture out there and completely
unaware that the coming nightmare is Disneyland compared to the
absolute tyranny, terror, fascism, and torture they are subjecting
themselves to every
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the really funny part. They are so terrified of the coming
tyranny, terror, fascism, and torture out there and completely
unaware that the coming nightmare is Disneyland compared to the
absolute
OK, if you want to call the rubble, bones, and stink of an incinerated
Germany Disneyland, you've got a point. But I don't think that this is using
language with any kind of precision.
Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: R: Here's
the really funny part. They
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, if you want to call the rubble, bones, and stink of an
incinerated Germany Disneyland, you've got a point. But I don't think
that this is using language with any kind of precision.
I do.
AnyOne of Us who can listen...? If what I say doesn't resonate for
you, feel free to ignore it, of course.
FWIW I too am really moved by your great heart, Curtis, and I wish
you nothing but the best.
Yeah, I'm just an adorable, tousled haired, big hearted, unenlightened
scamp aren't I?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AnyOne of Us who can listen...? If what I say doesn't resonate for
you, feel free to ignore it, of course.
FWIW I too am really moved by your great heart, Curtis, and I wish
you nothing but the best.
I'm with you on this one, Curtis, I don't sense it either.
curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AnyOne of Us who can listen...? If what I say doesn't resonate for
you, feel free to ignore it, of course.
FWIW I too am really moved by your great
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't sense any openness to feedback here so
I'll just leave it at that.
I'm with you on this one, Curtis, I don't sense it
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with anyone.
Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem to have enough
self-awareness to notice how they come across. Maybe they just don't give a
shit. a
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I don't sense any openness to feedback here so
I'll
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone. Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem to
have enough self-awareness to notice how they come across. Maybe they
or to lie to you to make you feel better, if that's what you want
That's all I ever wanted from you Rory. You don't call you don't
write, and is it too much to ask for a box of chocolates once in a
while? You can keep the flowers I got allergies, now pull up a chair
and eat, you look like a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone. Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem to
have enough self-awareness to notice how they come across. Maybe they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone. Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
or to lie to you to make you feel better, if that's what you
want
That's all I ever wanted from you Rory. You don't call you don't
write, and is it too much to ask for a box of chocolates once in a
while?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
Acid Trip and Jim and Rory [since they both seem to have missed
the post]
Didn't miss it; just didn't think you really wanted to converse :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
Acid Trip and Jim and Rory [since they both seem to have
missed
the post]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Acid Trip and Jim and Rory [since they both seem to have missed
the post]
Didn't miss it; just didn't think you really wanted to converse :-)
Reading Jim and Rory's posts reminds me of an acid trip I took
decades
snip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
R: Apparently we are *all* still failing miserably :-)
Yeah. Like I said, arrogant asshole. Perhaps you really think that
your being an arrogant asshole really DOES effectively liberate
people. GUFFAW!
No, not at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
R: Apparently we are *all* still failing miserably :-)
Yeah. Like I said, arrogant asshole. Perhaps you really think
that
your being an arrogant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
Acid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip Ergo Maharishi and Guru Dev, Brahmanada Saraswati, have
also failed
to liberate you John, and so they must also be arrogant
assholes??
Certainly not, but what they're doing doesn't include acting like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
snip Ergo Maharishi and Guru Dev, Brahmanada Saraswati, have
also failed
to liberate you John, and so they must also be arrogant
assholes??
snip Ok then-- I'll be an arrogant asshole IF, and only IF, you take
responsibility for your failure to achieve liberation. Do we have
a
deal?
You already ARE acting like an arrogant asshole - and my achieving
or not achieving liberation is none of your business.
Uh uh, sorry, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Ok then-- I'll be an arrogant asshole IF, and only IF, you take
responsibility for your failure to achieve liberation. Do we have
a
deal?
You already ARE acting like an arrogant asshole - and my
Yes, there is nothing I can see that isn't part of me. I know condescension
because I have been guilty of it. I know what it feels like. That we are what
we behold is a given. Within that given, however, there are distinctions that
a well-trained literary critic can make. I don't know you at
You're a gifted writer, deltablues.
curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or
to lie to you to make you feel better, if that's what you want
That's all I ever wanted from you Rory. You don't call you don't
write, and is it too much to ask for a box of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're a gifted writer, deltablues.
A sheynem dank, gutte neshome.
curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
or to lie to you to make you feel better, if that's what
you want
---re - statement below MMY doesn't have that problem. That's cuz
he insulates himself against any contructive feedback that doesn't
agree with his initial POV.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, there is nothing I can see that isn't part of me. I know
condescension because I have been guilty of it. I know what it
feels like. That we are what we behold is a given. Within that
given, however, there
You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part of my
freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would be the duty or
privilege of setting folks straight about enlightenment, and if the
folks want to tussle, well, the enlightened can give what's given to
them backacha TIMES TEN.
Arjuna
Every scripture has saints who kill, lie, rape, swindle, etc. in
the cause of upholding the integrity of spirituality itself. Those who
will not even consider that God exists are the proper targets for such
low behavoir on the parts of the enlightened.
Atheists are all too aware of this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part of my
freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would be the duty or
privilege of setting folks straight about enlightenment, and if the
folks want to tussle,
I do not feel offended. Your condescension was never directed at me, I just
happened to notice it and also noticed honest efforts on the part of others to
make you aware of it. So I thought I'd put in my two cents worth as a more or
less objective observer. Intellect makes discriminations,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part of my
freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would be the duty or
privilege of setting folks straight about enlightenment, and if the
folks want to tussle,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every scripture has saints who kill, lie, rape, swindle, etc. in
the cause of upholding the integrity of spirituality itself. Those
who
will not even consider that God exists are the proper targets for
such
low
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not feel offended. Your condescension was never directed at
me, I just happened to notice it and also noticed honest efforts on
the part of others to make you aware of it. So I thought I'd put in
my two
Moses was told to kill whole tribes -- genocide pure and simple. I
can hardly write the words -- it's terrible.
Okay, what do you do with that when you want to consider the
personality of God?
First I note that God didn't say to Moses, I want that you really
enjoy killing. I'm no biblical
---Regarding actions that the Enlightened are enjoined (must) to
something spontaneously while the un-Enlightened are stuck with some
other course of action doesn't make sense. The only difference is
the identification. Here's the statement --below-- (which seems to
imply that given equal
All my sins, thus far, have been by a meat robot, but if I do get
enlightened, I don't expect life to change instantly, and in the
meanwhile, I expect that my dark proclivities will be useful to God in
some manner. If God needs someone ass raged upon, well, all He's
gotta do is take me off the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Jim doesn't want to kill or swindle -- that's a good sign that
he's
not going to spontaneously manifest those dynamics, but, don't kid
yourself, like all of us, he'd kill anyone holding a knife to his
child's throat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
BTW do you believe that the rapture of Christianity is a fantasy?
Same thing for me so far about enlightenment. But perhaps
The thing about being enlightened that I personally don't like all that much is
that I am surrounded by unenlightened idiots. How could this have happened?
I'm incarnate in a sea of idiots reflecting all that profound idiocy back to
me??? Incredible.
new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing about being enlightened that I personally don't like all
that much is that I am surrounded by unenlightened idiots. How
could this have happened? I'm incarnate in a sea of idiots
reflecting all that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
BTW do you believe that the rapture of Christianity is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I am completely lacking in perfect intellignence. You though
have apparently perfected it! I am also as you say incapable
of deomonstrateing it!
Don't you see what an utter fool you appear as when you try
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Yes, I am completely lacking in perfect intellignence. You
though
have apparently perfected it! I am also as you say incapable
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Yes, I am completely lacking in perfect intellignence. You
though
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
you, or me, if you want to see it that way- just calling you on your
BS and your foolishness, your hypocrisy.
Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is*
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
you, or me, if you want to see it that way- just calling you on
your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is* condemning *you* -- trying
desperately
to find and prove flaws in you so he won't have to look up to
you as
a role model, which is what he thinks you want!
J: and I am
Nice story.
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote:
Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is* condemning *you* -- trying
desperately
to find and prove flaws in you so he won't have to look up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is* condemning *you* -- trying
desperately
to find and prove flaws in you so he won't have to look
up to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice story.
lol! my stomach hurts!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
Nice story.
lol! my stomach hurts!!!
RUN!!! FFL has been hijacked by the Goal itself!!!
RUN!!! LOL!!!Enlightenment is here
I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by some of
its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences. I
really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') enlightened
explanations and don't take them as attacks on others' states of
consciousness at all,
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