[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
[...]
> Back to my post: as has been discussed by others, 
> Maharishi originally said it doesn't matter who's in 
> power if collective consciousness is high enough to 
> generate coherent policies and support of nature in 
> their execution. But then he started ranting about 
> G.W. Bush being a rakshasa. My post was pointing 
> up the irony that MMY's superradiance might save 
> the Bush tush.
>

Well, Ayurveda IS about transforming poison into nectar, and the ultimate 
Ayurvedic 
treatment is transcending.

So if Bush gets transformed as a side-effect of the rising consciousness of the 
country, it's 
just another inevitable side-effect of the process, eh?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[Patrick Gillam]

--- MDixon wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 9/16/06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  
> I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> for George W. Bush  and the Republican Party is 
> trending up, thanks in part to falling  gasoline prices. 
> When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age  
> of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> Country of World Peace,  crediting TM superradiance 
> with rising positivity. If those cause-effect  
> correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> the re-election  of Republicans in November's  elections.
> 
> So J, are you suggesting that dome numbers decrease so that the country  
> might go to hell in a hand basket and people will take it out on the 
> Republicans  
> in November? 

No, I don't want that to happen. I'd rather see 
the country prosper and be healthy and peaceful, 
no matter who's in power.

> This is exactly what Rush has said for years, that the Democrats  
> have set them selves up so that bad news for America is great news for them 
> and  great news for America is bad for them.

I believe that's a warping of the Democratic message. 
As I hear it, the Democrats are saying, "Republican 
policies will cause more problems than they solve." 
Then, when conditions go south, the Dems say, "Told 
you so. The Republican agenda isn't good for the 
country. Instead, elect us."

The Democrats may feel some schadenfreude over 
Republican missteps, but certainly nobody's gloating 
over the parlous state of the nation.

Back to my post: as has been discussed by others, 
Maharishi originally said it doesn't matter who's in 
power if collective consciousness is high enough to 
generate coherent policies and support of nature in 
their execution. But then he started ranting about 
G.W. Bush being a rakshasa. My post was pointing 
up the irony that MMY's superradiance might save 
the Bush tush.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans (give peace a chance)

[Robert Gimbel]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Back in the early 70¹s, when Nixon was going through the Watergate 
ordeal, I
> heard that Maharishi supported him, and was generally in favor of
> conservative Republican policies. Charlie Donahue hopped on this 
bandwagon,
> so being the mindless little lemming that I was, I did so too, and 
caught
> plenty of flak for it at the Orono, ME SCI course.

Well, Nixon was a pretty shrewd character, and a bit~ paranoid...
A Capricorn, like Maharishi
Besides, I don't think Maharishi wanted to get on that: 'dirty tricks 
list',
That Nixon had,
John Lennon on...
Can you imagine, that Nixon really considered John Lennon, to be a 
political threat to him?
Can't imagine Imagine, what Lennon would have thought of Bush, and 
all the stuff going down now-a-days(Strange days, indeed, Mama...)
R.G.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/16/06 9:14 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> 
> >> > , Rick Archer  wrote:
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Back in the early 70¹s, when Nixon was going through the
Watergate
> >> > ordeal, I
> >>> >> heard that Maharishi supported him, and was generally in favor of
> >>> >> conservative Republican policies. Charlie Donahue hopped on this
> >> > bandwagon,
> >>> >> so being the mindless little lemming that I was, I did so
too, and
> >> > caught
> >>> >> plenty of flak for it at the Orono, ME SCI course.
> >>> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > Hey - I remember you from Orno, but I don't remember either you or
> >> > Charlie taken' heat for Nixon :-)
> > 
> I taught the SCI course to a group of about 50 who had taken it
previously.
> They (deservedly) gave me the heat. I was out of my gourd on that course
> because I had done 5 weeks of really intense rounding in a cabin in N.
> Carolina with Charlie Donahue, Billy Lazarus, and George Helland and had
> come down too quickly because the owner of the cabin wanted us out.
> (Maharishi gave us permission to round on our own because we
couldn¹t both
> attend the ATR and teach the Orono course.)
>
I knew about the rounding in the cabin, but I don't remember how I
knew Lots of good experiences listening to Sama Veda there in Orno
. (I remember riding in a car with someone and being surprized hearing
about the rounding in the cabin... ) That was a good course.

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[Robert Gimbel]

I think falling gasoline prices has a bit to do with the up-coming 
elections; remember the Bush family and the Saudis are in bed 
together?...R.G.


> >  
> > I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> > for George W. Bush  and the Republican Party is 
> > trending up, thanks in part to falling  gasoline prices. 
> > When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age  
> > of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> > Country of World Peace,  crediting TM superradiance 
> > with rising positivity. If those cause-effect  
> > correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> > the re-election  of Republicans in November's  elections.
> > 

 
> > 
> > So J, are you suggesting that dome numbers decrease so that the 
> country  
> > might go to hell in a hand basket and people will take it out on 
> the Republicans  
> > in November? This is exactly what Rush has said for years, that 
the 
> Democrats  
> > have set them selves up so that bad news for America is great 
news 
> for them 
> > and  great news for America is bad for them. Perhaps if Democrats 
> could show 
> > the  American people how their policies have contributed and 
been  
> instrumental  
> > in bringing gasoline prices down, they could claim some of the 
> credit, or 
> > show  how they have worked *with* the administration on counter 
> terrorism efforts 
> > to  prevent further attacks  . Instead what so many people see is 
a 
> thorn  in 
> > the side instead of a helping hand, thus they get no  credit.
> 
> The Republicans, if you haven't noticed, are in
> control.  How the hell can the Democrats' policies
> be instrumental in doing *anything* when they can't
> get them implemented in Congress?
> 
> Gas prices per se are unlikely to be affected by
> anything Congress does in any case.
> 
> The Democrats *have* proposed one measure after another
> to improve national security only to have them voted
> down by the Republicans.
> 
> The consensus of independent expert opinion is that
> Bush's policies have made us *more* vulnerable to
> terror, not less.
>







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[Rick Archer]

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans





on 9/16/06 9:14 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Back in the early 70’s, when Nixon was going through the Watergate
> ordeal, I
>> heard that Maharishi supported him, and was generally in favor of
>> conservative Republican policies. Charlie Donahue hopped on this
> bandwagon,
>> so being the mindless little lemming that I was, I did so too, and
> caught
>> plenty of flak for it at the Orono, ME SCI course.
>> 
> 
> Hey - I remember you from Orno, but I don't remember either you or
> Charlie taken' heat for Nixon :-) 

I taught the SCI course to a group of about 50 who had taken it previously. They (deservedly) gave me the heat. I was out of my gourd on that course because I had done 5 weeks of really intense rounding in a cabin in N. Carolina with Charlie Donahue, Billy Lazarus, and George Helland and had come down too quickly because the owner of the cabin wanted us out. (Maharishi gave us permission to round on our own because we couldn’t both attend the ATR and teach the Orono course.)


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[jyouells2000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Back in the early 70¹s, when Nixon was going through the Watergate
ordeal, I
> heard that Maharishi supported him, and was generally in favor of
> conservative Republican policies. Charlie Donahue hopped on this
bandwagon,
> so being the mindless little lemming that I was, I did so too, and
caught
> plenty of flak for it at the Orono, ME SCI course.
>

Hey - I remember you from Orno, but I don't remember either you or
Charlie taken' heat for Nixon :-) 

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> wrote:
> 
> > That's why I am amused when arch-liberal Judy Stein is 
unwavering in 
> > her support of Clinton who was anything but a liberal (except 
> > perhaps in his patronage appointments).  Judy defends Clinton at 
> > every chance she gets but he was anathema to pretty much 
everything 
> > she stands for.
> 
> I'm sorry you're so confused about what I stand
> for, Shemp.
> 
> Medication time now.
>


You mean it's not clear from your 17,000 posts that you are NOT a 
liberal?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> That's why I am amused when arch-liberal Judy Stein is unwavering in 
> her support of Clinton who was anything but a liberal (except 
> perhaps in his patronage appointments).  Judy defends Clinton at 
> every chance she gets but he was anathema to pretty much everything 
> she stands for.

I'm sorry you're so confused about what I stand
for, Shemp.

Medication time now.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Back in the early 70¹s, when Nixon was going through the Watergate 
ordeal, I
> heard that Maharishi supported him, and was generally in favor of
> conservative Republican policies. Charlie Donahue hopped on this 
bandwagon,
> so being the mindless little lemming that I was, I did so too, and 
caught
> plenty of flak for it at the Orono, ME SCI course.
>


don't feel too bad; Nixon was quite the liberal:

- Created the EPA;

- Opened up Red China;

- Was responsible for Affirmative Action;

- Initiated wage and price freezes (a very liberal thing to do);

- Said: when you run for the Republican nomination, you run far 
right of center; when you run for president you run right of center; 
when you govern, you govern from the center.  However, Nixon 
governed from the left.  He was MUCH more liberal, of course, than 
Bill Clinton who oversaw a veritable Conservative Agenda which he 
wholeheartedly subscribed to and supported.

That's why I am amused when arch-liberal Judy Stein is unwavering in 
her support of Clinton who was anything but a liberal (except 
perhaps in his patronage appointments).  Judy defends Clinton at 
every chance she gets but he was anathema to pretty much everything 
she stands for.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans our thnaks 2 U

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Thanks, Maharishi  4 Ur indirect support for  conservatives &  
Libertariens 
> in the up  coming elections. Nature & we support U in this historic 
trend 4 the 
>  good, I noticed it myself . Col Ret. U. S. Army   Leed
>

Were you a Colonel before or after the massive amount of drugs you 
obviously took that are responsible for all those silly smiley faces 
you interject into your posts?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans our thnaks 2 U

[WLeed3]

Thanks, Maharishi 
4 Ur indirect support for 
conservatives & 
Libertariens in the up 
coming elections. Nature & we support U in this historic trend 4 the 
good, I noticed it myself . Col Ret. U. S. Army  
Leed
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 9/16/06 11:00:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> for George W. Bush  and the Republican Party is 
> trending up, thanks in part to falling  gasoline prices. 
> When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age  
> of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> Country of World Peace,  crediting TM superradiance 
> with rising positivity. If those cause-effect  
> correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> the re-election  of Republicans in November's  elections.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So J, are you suggesting that dome numbers decrease so that the 
country  
> might go to hell in a hand basket and people will take it out on 
the Republicans  
> in November? This is exactly what Rush has said for years, that the 
Democrats  
> have set them selves up so that bad news for America is great news 
for them 
> and  great news for America is bad for them. Perhaps if Democrats 
could show 
> the  American people how their policies have contributed and been  
instrumental  
> in bringing gasoline prices down, they could claim some of the 
credit, or 
> show  how they have worked *with* the administration on counter 
terrorism efforts 
> to  prevent further attacks  . Instead what so many people see is a 
thorn  in 
> the side instead of a helping hand, thus they get no  credit.

The Republicans, if you haven't noticed, are in
control.  How the hell can the Democrats' policies
be instrumental in doing *anything* when they can't
get them implemented in Congress?

Gas prices per se are unlikely to be affected by
anything Congress does in any case.

The Democrats *have* proposed one measure after another
to improve national security only to have them voted
down by the Republicans.

The consensus of independent expert opinion is that
Bush's policies have made us *more* vulnerable to
terror, not less.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" 
 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> > > for George W. Bush and the Republican Party is 
> > > trending up, thanks in part to falling gasoline prices. 
> > > When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age 
> > > of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> > > Country of World Peace, crediting TM superradiance 
> > > with rising positivity. If those cause-effect 
> > > correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> > > the re-election of Republicans in November's elections.
> > 
> > It's trending up, but not by much.  
> 
> 
> 
> I don't think that Patrick's point is whether or not there is a 
> significant rise in support for Bush as opposed to how the TMO 
> assigns cause and effect.
> 
> If we hold upward trends such as the rise in the stock market or 
the 
> lowering of crude prices as a "good" thing and that these 
> alleged "good" things spill over into support for whomever is in 
> office at the time then the silly "the ME is responsible for all 
> these good things" reasoning must necessarily mean that it is also 
> responsible for support for whomever is in office at the time.

Yes, I'm aware of that.  The point being that the ME
is *not* supporting the Republicans, or at least not
enough at this point to give them an edge in the
elections, gas prices or no gas prices.  On their own,
falling gas prices are good for consumers, but they
aren't going to help the Republicans much because
voters' primary concern is Iraq.

> I think Patrick's point is: what's good for the goose is good for 
> the gander and if we're going to play the ME effect game well we 
> have to take the good with the bad.

Yes indeedy.  And in this case the "bad" is that the
situation in Iraq is getting worse, not better.  If
the Dems beat the crap out of the Republicans in the
elections, it'll be at the expense of the Iraqis and
our troops, at least in the short term.

Long term, on the other hand, it may end up being
better for everyone (everyone who's still alive and
in one piece, at any rate).



> >The media, as
> > is their wont, are making a huge deal of the "Bush
> > bounce"--a measly couple of points into the low 40s,
> > a miserable rating for an incumbent--but as of 9/14,
> > the Democratic lead for the midterms is holding firm,
> > 50 to 39 if the election were held today, according
> > to Pew.
> > 
> > If superradiance were generating significant
> > improvements in the situation in Iraq, Democrats
> > would have to start worrying about the elections,
> > but--unfortunately for the beleaguered Iraqis and
> > our exhausted troops--it ain't.
> > 
> > See this DailyKos diary for an analysis of recent
> > polls:
> > 
> > http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/15/9104/83291
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> > for George W. Bush and the Republican Party is 
> > trending up, thanks in part to falling gasoline prices. 
> > When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age 
> > of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> > Country of World Peace, crediting TM superradiance 
> > with rising positivity. If those cause-effect 
> > correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> > the re-election of Republicans in November's elections.
> 
> It's trending up, but not by much.  



I don't think that Patrick's point is whether or not there is a 
significant rise in support for Bush as opposed to how the TMO 
assigns cause and effect.

If we hold upward trends such as the rise in the stock market or the 
lowering of crude prices as a "good" thing and that these 
alleged "good" things spill over into support for whomever is in 
office at the time then the silly "the ME is responsible for all 
these good things" reasoning must necessarily mean that it is also 
responsible for support for whomever is in office at the time.

I think Patrick's point is: what's good for the goose is good for 
the gander and if we're going to play the ME effect game well we 
have to take the good with the bad.



>The media, as
> is their wont, are making a huge deal of the "Bush
> bounce"--a measly couple of points into the low 40s,
> a miserable rating for an incumbent--but as of 9/14,
> the Democratic lead for the midterms is holding firm,
> 50 to 39 if the election were held today, according
> to Pew.
> 
> If superradiance were generating significant
> improvements in the situation in Iraq, Democrats
> would have to start worrying about the elections,
> but--unfortunately for the beleaguered Iraqis and
> our exhausted troops--it ain't.
> 
> See this DailyKos diary for an analysis of recent
> polls:
> 
> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/15/9104/83291
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi supports the Republicans

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I heard on the radio yesterday that public support 
> for George W. Bush and the Republican Party is 
> trending up, thanks in part to falling gasoline prices. 
> When I heard that, I thought of all those rosy "Age 
> of Enlightenment News" reports from the Global 
> Country of World Peace, crediting TM superradiance 
> with rising positivity. If those cause-effect 
> correlations are valid, Maharishi is contributing to 
> the re-election of Republicans in November's elections.

It's trending up, but not by much.  The media, as
is their wont, are making a huge deal of the "Bush
bounce"--a measly couple of points into the low 40s,
a miserable rating for an incumbent--but as of 9/14,
the Democratic lead for the midterms is holding firm,
50 to 39 if the election were held today, according
to Pew.

If superradiance were generating significant
improvements in the situation in Iraq, Democrats
would have to start worrying about the elections,
but--unfortunately for the beleaguered Iraqis and
our exhausted troops--it ain't.

See this DailyKos diary for an analysis of recent
polls:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/15/9104/83291







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