[FairfieldLife] RE: Reasons why Neo might be timely
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Share Long: > ...are you saying that Dr. Pete is needed because I > enjoy your posts?! > We need Dr. Pete because he is a psychologist and maybe he could help answer Alex's question about why Turq still posts to FFL, when it's obvious that Turq doesn't like us very much. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess, but does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking? Go figure. > > > Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? > > >
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Richard, are you saying that Dr. Pete is needed because I enjoy your posts?! Do I even need to say it?! Ok, go figure! From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Share Long: > Richard, I gotta tell you that you're one of the > posters who I almost always thoroughly enjoy both > for the form and content of your posts. You make > me laugh and also I take to heart what you say > about current events and political issues. > Yeah, I mean if you had a levitation event with someone, wouldn't that be pretty earth-shaking event? Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? For some reason Turq left out Lawson, I wonder if he reads Lawson's posts - probably not. Lawson is really up on the medical and scientific aspect of TM practice. Speaking of email, one guy I know who lives up in Deadwood, SD, doesn't have email, or at least he doesn't read it. Go figure. He's probably like a lot of guys that work out in the field - they have at least three free email accounts but they don't even remember the passwords to one of them. LoL! But, if you want a slot-machine repaired, he's the guy to go to. He does have a flip-phone though and a land line. He used to live up in Reno, and had a large business of his own there servicing thousands of gaming machines, until he got divorced. So, now he works out of a warehouse off Main Street in Deadwood. Go figure. > > According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a > > dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in > > Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. > > > > All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in > > Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to > > talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because > > he knows no Tibetan. > > > > But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own > > levitation event with Rama. LoL! > > > > I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a > > guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very > >understandable - work related distractions. > > > > Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? >
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Richard, are you saying that Dr. Pete is needed because I enjoy your posts?! Do I even need to say it?! Ok, go figure! From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Share Long: > Richard, I gotta tell you that you're one of the > posters who I almost always thoroughly enjoy both > for the form and content of your posts. You make > me laugh and also I take to heart what you say > about current events and political issues. > Yeah, I mean if you had a levitation event with someone, wouldn't that be pretty earth-shaking event? Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? For some reason Turq left out Lawson, I wonder if he reads Lawson's posts - probably not. Lawson is really up on the medical and scientific aspect of TM practice. Speaking of email, one guy I know who lives up in Deadwood, SD, doesn't have email, or at least he doesn't read it. Go figure. He's probably like a lot of guys that work out in the field - they have at least three free email accounts but they don't even remember the passwords to one of them. LoL! But, if you want a slot-machine repaired, he's the guy to go to. He does have a flip-phone though and a land line. He used to live up in Reno, and had a large business of his own there servicing thousands of gaming machines, until he got divorced. So, now he works out of a warehouse off Main Street in Deadwood. Go figure. > > According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a > > dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in > > Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. > > > > All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in > > Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to > > talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because > > he knows no Tibetan. > > > > But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own > > levitation event with Rama. LoL! > > > > I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a > > guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very > >understandable - work related distractions. > > > > Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? >
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Richard, are you saying that Dr. Pete is needed because I enjoy your posts?! Do I even need to say it?! Ok, go figure! From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Share Long: > Richard, I gotta tell you that you're one of the > posters who I almost always thoroughly enjoy both > for the form and content of your posts. You make > me laugh and also I take to heart what you say > about current events and political issues. > Yeah, I mean if you had a levitation event with someone, wouldn't that be pretty earth-shaking event? Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? For some reason Turq left out Lawson, I wonder if he reads Lawson's posts - probably not. Lawson is really up on the medical and scientific aspect of TM practice. Speaking of email, one guy I know who lives up in Deadwood, SD, doesn't have email, or at least he doesn't read it. Go figure. He's probably like a lot of guys that work out in the field - they have at least three free email accounts but they don't even remember the passwords to one of them. LoL! But, if you want a slot-machine repaired, he's the guy to go to. He does have a flip-phone though and a land line. He used to live up in Reno, and had a large business of his own there servicing thousands of gaming machines, until he got divorced. So, now he works out of a warehouse off Main Street in Deadwood. Go figure. > > According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a > > dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in > > Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. > > > > All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in > > Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to > > talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because > > he knows no Tibetan. > > > > But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own > > levitation event with Rama. LoL! > > > > I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a > > guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very > >understandable - work related distractions. > > > > Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? >
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Share Long: > Richard, I gotta tell you that you're one of the > posters who I almost always thoroughly enjoy both > for the form and content of your posts. You make > me laugh and also I take to heart what you say > about current events and political issues. > Yeah, I mean if you had a levitation event with someone, wouldn't that be pretty earth-shaking event? Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? For some reason Turq left out Lawson, I wonder if he reads Lawson's posts - probably not. Lawson is really up on the medical and scientific aspect of TM practice. Speaking of email, one guy I know who lives up in Deadwood, SD, doesn't have email, or at least he doesn't read it. Go figure. He's probably like a lot of guys that work out in the field - they have at least three free email accounts but they don't even remember the passwords to one of them. LoL! But, if you want a slot-machine repaired, he's the guy to go to. He does have a flip-phone though and a land line. He used to live up in Reno, and had a large business of his own there servicing thousands of gaming machines, until he got divorced. So, now he works out of a warehouse off Main Street in Deadwood. Go figure. > > According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a > > dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in > > Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. > > > > All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in > > Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to > > talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because > > he knows no Tibetan. > > > > But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own > > levitation event with Rama. LoL! > > > > I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a > > guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very > >understandable - work related distractions. > > > > Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him? >
[FairfieldLife] RE: Reasons why Neo might be timely
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emptybill, what I would say to those Tralfamadorians is that their four dimensional living is a speck in the ocean of Love and as such, aloneness, especially at the moment of death, is simply Everythingness. From: emptybill To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Back in '95 when my wife died, she was surrounded by her extended family as her labored breathing began to end. I placed one hand on her heart and the other on her ajña chakra. At that point I did what I could to draw up her pranas using my prana. However, in the end I concluded that we still die suddenly and alone because consciousness exits and is gone, and although accessible, it isn't present in the same way. As the Tralfamadorians say ... so it goes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > emptybill, you're another poster whose posts I enjoy on so many levels. But usually I don't reply because I'm not so articulate in those more abstract realms. But I do enjoy reading those like you who are articulate about them. PS I bet your daughters will be with you when you die (-: > > > > > > From: emptybill emptybill@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:42 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely > > > > Â > As has been pointed out numberless times but rarely admitted ... > > Everyone dies suddenly and alone. >
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Back in '95 when my wife died, she was surrounded by her extended family as her labored breathing began to end. I placed one hand on her heart and the other on her ajña chakra. At that point I did what I could to draw up her pranas using my prana. However, in the end I concluded that we still die suddenly and alone because consciousness exits and is gone, and although accessible, it isn't present in the same way. As the Tralfamadorians say ... so it goes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > emptybill, you're another poster whose posts I enjoy on so many levels. But usually I don't reply because I'm not so articulate in those more abstract realms. But I do enjoy reading those like you who are articulate about them. PS I bet your daughters will be with you when you die (-: > > > > > > From: emptybill emptybill@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:42 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely > > > > Â > As has been pointed out numberless times but rarely admitted ... > > Everyone dies suddenly and alone. >
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emptybill, you're another poster whose posts I enjoy on so many levels. But usually I don't reply because I'm not so articulate in those more abstract realms. But I do enjoy reading those like you who are articulate about them. PS I bet your daughters will be with you when you die (-: From: emptybill To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely As has been pointed out numberless times but rarely admitted ... Everyone dies suddenly and alone.
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Richard, I gotta tell you that you're one of the posters who I almost always thoroughly enjoy both for the form and content of your posts. You make me laugh and also I take to heart what you say about current events and political issues. From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Alex: > ...why the hell do you stick around, making it even worse > with your whining and lashing out? > Turq left out Lawson, one of the most interesting posters on the internet. It's not surprising that Turq would be in favor of reading posts from his own minions, Pips and MGs. According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because he knows no Tibetan. But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own levitation event with Rama. LoL! I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very understandable - work related distractions. Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him?
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Alex: > ...why the hell do you stick around, making it even worse > with your whining and lashing out? > Turq left out Lawson, one of the most interesting posters on the internet. It's not surprising that Turq would be in favor of reading posts from his own minions, Pips and MGs. According to what I've read, Turq is not interested in a dialog about TM, about meditating in a group, living in Fairfield, or what is going on in New Jersey or Austin. All he seems to want to talk about is his apartment in Paris or a cafe in Amsterdam. Turq doesn't even want to talk about his crazy Tibetan religion, perhaps because he knows no Tibetan. But, you'd think Turq would want to talk about his own levitation event with Rama. LoL! I'm beginning to think what we're dealing with here is a guy posting from his place of employ. If so, that's very understandable - work related distractions. Where is Dr. Pete when we really need him?
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But Judy, that's exactly what I've had to do ever since I started looking for old posts over a year ago! It's not a new process for me. And since we're talking only about the previous 3 weeks, that makes it easier. Plus usually I remember the poster, and sometimes even a phrase. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely For the record, even if one were inclined to compile a list of posts that would satisfy Barry's demand, one couldn't do it by looking through the Message View lists. One would have to remember the specifics of the post--approximate date, poster's name, and a word or phrase from the post--to search for it individually. (And that's if Search were working, which it does only sporadically.) Otherwise it would take many hours to turn up suitable posts. I strongly suspect Barry was well aware that he was asking the impossible and did so deliberately so he could crow and sneer about nobody being able to fulfill it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: turq, I don't think you're being very tantric about how FFL is changing. Sometimes life is not the way we want it to be. So what? Also, there have been way too many good posts during the past 3 weeks to list them here. I do hope you continue to post here but if not, then I wish you all the best. Finally, what's the point of focusing on something over which one has no control?! From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: > >> > Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, >> > not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone >> > else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular >> > for EXAMPLES to support that stance. >> >> So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place >> this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, >> why you continue to post? >> In the past you've said you stick around because of the >> occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find >> interesting. So why not just join in when you find >> something of interest, and lose all the whining? And >> for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this >> assessment. > >For the record, that IS my approach, and has been the last three weeks. What I guess I'm complaining about is that more often than not these days I make a full scan of posts on FFL in Message View and find nothing worth replying to. Since that is unlikely to change, you may be correct that it's "whining" to comment on it. I just thought I'd give people a chance to point to concrete EXAMPLES of what *they* consider good posts. So far, only one person has done so, and even that was mixed with ad hominem.
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turq, I don't think you're being very tantric about how FFL is changing. Sometimes life is not the way we want it to be. So what? Also, there have been way too many good posts during the past 3 weeks to list them here. I do hope you continue to post here but if not, then I wish you all the best. Finally, what's the point of focusing on something over which one has no control?! From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: > > > Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, > > not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone > > else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular > > for EXAMPLES to support that stance. > > So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place > this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, > why you continue to post? > In the past you've said you stick around because of the > occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find > interesting. So why not just join in when you find > something of interest, and lose all the whining? And > for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this > assessment. For the record, that IS my approach, and has been the last three weeks. What I guess I'm complaining about is that more often than not these days I make a full scan of posts on FFL in Message View and find nothing worth replying to. Since that is unlikely to change, you may be correct that it's "whining" to comment on it. I just thought I'd give people a chance to point to concrete EXAMPLES of what *they* consider good posts. So far, only one person has done so, and even that was mixed with ad hominem.
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Thanks, Steve and it's always wonderful to see how the addition of just one more balanced poster can make FFL feel well, more balanced and beneficial. I hope you'll be able and willing to return here even more frequently. From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely Yes, I noticed that you did seem to be following the routine you describe below. Which is the same routine I think most follow here. And I guess I don't typically find too much to comment on either and tend to be a low volume poster unless I am engaged in a one on one with someone. What keeps me coming back? Really just a means to relax and hear different points of view about things. Among my favorites are Edg, Curtis, (when he participates), You, Share, Emily, BP, Ann, Alex, Obba. But also Judy, Doc, Xeno, Bhairitu, Irantea, MJ, and everyone else for that matter. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: > > > Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, > > not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone > > else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular > > for EXAMPLES to support that stance. > > So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place > this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, > why you continue to post? > In the past you've said you stick around because of the > occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find > interesting. So why not just join in when you find > something of interest, and lose all the whining? And > for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this > assessment. For the record, that IS my approach, and has been the last three weeks. What I guess I'm complaining about is that more often than not these days I make a full scan of posts on FFL in Message View and find nothing worth replying to. Since that is unlikely to change, you may be correct that it's "whining" to comment on it. I just thought I'd give people a chance to point to concrete EXAMPLES of what *they* consider good posts. So far, only one person has done so, and even that was mixed with ad hominem. I agree that Susan's post was good, and that most of hers are. I also feel that many of Salyavin's posts are worth reading and (if I'm interested in the content, which is not always) worth replying to. Same with some of emptybill's and merudanda's posts, and some of Xeno's and compost1uk's. I like many of bhairitu's posts, possibly because I'm interested in the content. I appreciate some of mjackson's and iranitea's posts, but not all. And of course azgrey's and Curtis', on the rare occasions when they do a drive-by. Some posters I am ambivalent about because I'm rarely inter- ested in the things they're interested in (like Card and Buck). With most of the others, I've found that not bothering to read anything but the first few words of their posts in Message View doesn't seem to have impacted my life negatively. To the contrary, it feels (as Alex said) "lighter," as if I'd stopped bothering to listen to what bag ladies I pass on the street are screaming about. :-) If any of those people feel offended by being put in the "We're not worthy" group, they are free to post a few EXAMPLES of why they don't belong there. If they don't, or can't, I don't see any reason to assign them to any other group, or to treat what they have to say here any differently. YMMV.
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Judy, this response held everything and more of what Barry was asking and was not asking in his post this morning. I especially appreciated your explanation and description of why and how viewpoints can be spiritual here although they may not be talking about anything other than war or movies or commenting on the post of another. There is no limit to how intelligence can be expressed and we have a wonderful collage of personalities who are able to see and, in turn, portray the individuality and depth of their experience of the world to the rest of us. It is, of course, predictable that Barry cites the posters who mostly agree with him as those he finds worthy to read. This is an old story and more a sign of him as a person than a valid certification of the worthwhileness of these peoples' posts (not to say that the "worthwhile" posts by those he deems readable aren't, indeed readable). And we have all lamented the fact that Salyavin has left for the moment, no one here has blasted him for it. I certainly appealed for him to come back. So, as usual, Barry is making this up to create more dissension and ill will. Why would he do that? (Rhetorical question.) This week in particular has been a great example of people actually spontaneously interacting more like they might do in real life in a room where conversation follows a flow with one viewpoint or interjection after another. It has a more natural and friendly flow to it than when there were posting limits. I think Barry wants to pontificate and he likes this sort of gag order emerging once certain people hit a particular post count. He waits and plans for this. He loves the soapbox and would prefer it if no one else could speak unless it was to support and stroke him. Otherwise, the rest of us should shut up because he has far more important things to say and we better listen while he misleads and abuses and makes it very, very clear (in his mind) why we are all lacking in one way or another as humans and as creative people. Barry might take small breaks but he'll never leave, not for the immediate future. For as much as he dislikes most of the people here and claims superficiality on our parts he needs a dogs body to kick and yank around. He also needs to leap onto his battered old soapbox often enough to make himself feel important.
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Yes, I noticed that you did seem to be following the routine you describe below. Which is the same routine I think most follow here. And I guess I don't typically find too much to comment on either and tend to be a low volume poster unless I am engaged in a one on one with someone. What keeps me coming back? Really just a means to relax and hear different points of view about things. Among my favorites are Edg, Curtis, (when he participates), You, Share, Emily, BP, Ann, Alex, Obba. But also Judy, Doc, Xeno, Bhairitu, Irantea, MJ, and everyone else for that matter. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: > > > Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, > > not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone > > else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular > > for EXAMPLES to support that stance. > > So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place > this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, > why you continue to post? > In the past you've said you stick around because of the > occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find > interesting. So why not just join in when you find > something of interest, and lose all the whining? And > for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this > assessment. For the record, that IS my approach, and has been the last three weeks. What I guess I'm complaining about is that more often than not these days I make a full scan of posts on FFL in Message View and find nothing worth replying to. Since that is unlikely to change, you may be correct that it's "whining" to comment on it. I just thought I'd give people a chance to point to concrete EXAMPLES of what *they* consider good posts. So far, only one person has done so, and even that was mixed with ad hominem. I agree that Susan's post was good, and that most of hers are. I also feel that many of Salyavin's posts are worth reading and (if I'm interested in the content, which is not always) worth replying to. Same with some of emptybill's and merudanda's posts, and some of Xeno's and compost1uk's. I like many of bhairitu's posts, possibly because I'm interested in the content. I appreciate some of mjackson's and iranitea's posts, but not all. And of course azgrey's and Curtis', on the rare occasions when they do a drive-by. Some posters I am ambivalent about because I'm rarely inter- ested in the things they're interested in (like Card and Buck). With most of the others, I've found that not bothering to read anything but the first few words of their posts in Message View doesn't seem to have impacted my life negatively. To the contrary, it feels (as Alex said) "lighter," as if I'd stopped bothering to listen to what bag ladies I pass on the street are screaming about. :-) If any of those people feel offended by being put in the "We're not worthy" group, they are free to post a few EXAMPLES of why they don't belong there. If they don't, or can't, I don't see any reason to assign them to any other group, or to treat what they have to say here any differently. YMMV.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: > > > Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, > > not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone > > else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular > > for EXAMPLES to support that stance. > > So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place > this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, > why you continue to post? > In the past you've said you stick around because of the > occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find > interesting. So why not just join in when you find > something of interest, and lose all the whining? And > for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this > assessment. For the record, that IS my approach, and has been the last three weeks. What I guess I'm complaining about is that more often than not these days I make a full scan of posts on FFL in Message View and find nothing worth replying to. Since that is unlikely to change, you may be correct that it's "whining" to comment on it. I just thought I'd give people a chance to point to concrete EXAMPLES of what *they* consider good posts. So far, only one person has done so, and even that was mixed with ad hominem. I agree that Susan's post was good, and that most of hers are. I also feel that many of Salyavin's posts are worth reading and (if I'm interested in the content, which is not always) worth replying to. Same with some of emptybill's and merudanda's posts, and some of Xeno's and compost1uk's. I like many of bhairitu's posts, possibly because I'm interested in the content. I appreciate some of mjackson's and iranitea's posts, but not all. And of course azgrey's and Curtis', on the rare occasions when they do a drive-by. Some posters I am ambivalent about because I'm rarely inter- ested in the things they're interested in (like Card and Buck). With most of the others, I've found that not bothering to read anything but the first few words of their posts in Message View doesn't seem to have impacted my life negatively. To the contrary, it feels (as Alex said) "lighter," as if I'd stopped bothering to listen to what bag ladies I pass on the street are screaming about. :-) If any of those people feel offended by being put in the "We're not worthy" group, they are free to post a few EXAMPLES of why they don't belong there. If they don't, or can't, I don't see any reason to assign them to any other group, or to treat what they have to say here any differently. YMMV.
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As has been pointed out numberless times but rarely admitted ... Everyone dies suddenly and alone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely
Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular for *examples* to support that stance. So many of your posts are about what a "low vibe" place this is. So at some point the more obvious question is, why you continue to post? In he past you've said you stick around because of the occasional worthwhile banter from those you still find interesting. So why not just join in when you find something of interest, and lose all the whining? And for the record, I think Curtis would agree with this assessment. Obviously, you weren't able to provide any. Instead you provided a few ad hominems yourself. I'm suggesting that the *standards* here at FFL have sunk so low that people have *forgotten* what an internet discussion group can be, when it hasn't been reduced to an ongoing soap opera set in junior high school. I'm also still waiting for the *examples* of posts from the last three weeks that you or other people feel *are* up to their high standards. Was yours one of them?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Reasons why Neo might be timely
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely
Alex vented: > > From my perspective, the overall mood is much lighter, > primarily because your dark passenger hasn't been on > here trying to stir up the vitriol. Your call. What you call "lighter" I might call "inane." But taste is subjective. > For crying out loud, Barry, if your egoic aversion to > FFL is so intense, why the hell do you stick around, > making it even worse with your whining and lashing out? Ahem. "Egoic aversion" is *your* take on what I said, not what I said. I asked for reasons why I or anyone else would *want* to stick around, asking in particular for *examples* to support that stance. Obviously, you weren't able to provide any. Instead you provided a few ad hominems yourself. I'm suggesting that the *standards* here at FFL have sunk so low that people have *forgotten* what an internet discussion group can be, when it hasn't been reduced to an ongoing soap opera set in junior high school. I'm also still waiting for the *examples* of posts from the last three weeks that you or other people feel *are* up to their high standards. Was yours one of them?
