Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
One thing for sure about FFL, it's made me more sensitive to writing simply because there is such a great variety of writing voices here. Of course people vary in their writing skills and in what they enjoy writing about. But the biggest contrast from me is more about the tone of the writing, which is super easy to discern and a bit difficult to explain. Actually at this moment I'm thinking that tone might be the co creative aspect of reading writing. Meaning that tone is created by the silent interaction of reader and writer. Just a thought at this moment. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful > phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > He knows his own mind. > > He is brave. > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life > do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? I agree, Barry brings a lot of energy and ideas to this place and I always enjoy his writings. What the hell would everyone talk about if he left? We'd get away with a five post a week maximum if nobody had him to kick against. To use Judy's argument from earlier, is this aggression towards him a sign that he's on the right track?* > > So keep on writing you bastard! And you, Edg. > Edg *May I predict 20,000 posts by sundown.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
I don't mind him being here, at all. As I said before, with Barry around, every other aspect of my life seems so much brighter. The Cautionary Tale, himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates > > wonderful phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > > > He knows his own mind. > > > > He is brave. > > > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life > > do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? > > I agree, Barry brings a lot of energy and ideas to this place and I always > enjoy his writings. > > What the hell would everyone talk about if he left? We'd get away > with a five post a week maximum if nobody had him to kick against. > > To use Judy's argument from earlier, is this aggression towards him > a sign that he's on the right track?* > > > > > > > So keep on writing you bastard! > > And you, Edg. > > > Edg > > > *May I predict 20,000 posts by sundown. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > To use Judy's argument from earlier, is this aggression towards > him a sign that he's on the right track?* Not my argument, sorry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
The beast hit me like a ton of bricks, that 666. Deepen to the darker side, for the dark is not dark enough for I! Shani,a temporary gaze on Surya, which combination, I shall not say. A hint, the Turq is kind of spelled like Turd. Lot's of blueberries come to mind! Blue biliary traced on end results, where Turd's reside. The old man whispers in my ear from afar, he who belches loudly will Shani's grace, a man of sooji complexion, that Sade Sati face, Italian Stallion. I save myself for he. Not the Turq. (hmm what rhymes) He is a jerk; Play with the animals and do not feed them! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > How coquettish of you, Obba. Ooops, don't lift that petticoat in front of the > big strong man! Yes, smelling the scent of cheap cloying perfume in the air, > and how you flutter your fan, so! Just another damsel in distress, eh??? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > As Share prods me to end my beasty number ending in 666, in another post, I > > move along here, to this compliment to the Turq, from Michael. > > I agree with Michael. I enjoy Turq's big head writing. I only thrash at him > > (He who goes by the name of Barry, but I am not quite personal enough to > > call him anything in a formal, except to fuck off, as Ann and I believe Dr. > > Dumbass have said here somewhere on these FFL group pages.) > > Turq, I enjoy your writing too. Sometimes they do get long winded and > > boring, but I still stomach through them, because sometimes past your ego, > > you do put together fine sentences many of the times. > > You are worth the skim through. > > A one night stand dressed in different clothing can make it feel like new, > > when you run out of material. > > Seriously, the squeaky wheel gets the oil and you have much rusted debris > > to keep the volume up for a good time to come. > > > > Fuck off, Turq. Keep up the good work. ;) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like > > > a section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The > > > unenlightened have failed to become All That They Could Be because they > > > didn't RTFM, or skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, > > > before installing and running a Java-based program > > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a > > > JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > > using the little red switch. > > > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > > product. > > > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when > > > you can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never > > > been addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to > > > Release 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For > > > your edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to > > > rectify that situation now: > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful > phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > He knows his own mind. > > He is brave. > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life > do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? I agree, Barry brings a lot of energy and ideas to this place and I always enjoy his writings. What the hell would everyone talk about if he left? We'd get away with a five post a week maximum if nobody had him to kick against. To use Judy's argument from earlier, is this aggression towards him a sign that he's on the right track?* > > So keep on writing you bastard! And you, Edg. > Edg *May I predict 20,000 posts by sundown.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
How coquettish of you, Obba. Ooops, don't lift that petticoat in front of the big strong man! Yes, smelling the scent of cheap cloying perfume in the air, and how you flutter your fan, so! Just another damsel in distress, eh??? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: > > As Share prods me to end my beasty number ending in 666, in another post, I > move along here, to this compliment to the Turq, from Michael. > I agree with Michael. I enjoy Turq's big head writing. I only thrash at him > (He who goes by the name of Barry, but I am not quite personal enough to call > him anything in a formal, except to fuck off, as Ann and I believe Dr. > Dumbass have said here somewhere on these FFL group pages.) > Turq, I enjoy your writing too. Sometimes they do get long winded and boring, > but I still stomach through them, because sometimes past your ego, you do put > together fine sentences many of the times. > You are worth the skim through. > A one night stand dressed in different clothing can make it feel like new, > when you run out of material. > Seriously, the squeaky wheel gets the oil and you have much rusted debris to > keep the volume up for a good time to come. > > Fuck off, Turq. Keep up the good work. ;) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a > > section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened > > have failed to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or > > skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > > installing and running a Java-based program > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > using the little red switch. > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > product. > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify > > that situation now: > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > > enlightened. > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > > great deals of money. > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of > > the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > > > > * When
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Spooky! Actually, I see you as a person who has done a lot of living, hands on,and stays grounded in her opinions, so we think alike. Not a lot of shit to tolerate, once you've actually shoveled enough of it.:-) Also makes it child's play to spot those like Barry, who pretend to keep their hands clean, while living delusionally upstairs all the time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times > > the writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has > > nothing to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could > > actually make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech > > writer. > > What the hell is this Dr? First the "Is it safe?" post and now this that I > just read after posting my own MJ writing kudos. I think sometimes we share > the same wavelength (is that the same as a wavicle?) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like > > > a section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The > > > unenlightened have failed to become All That They Could Be because they > > > didn't RTFM, or skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, > > > before installing and running a Java-based program > > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a > > > JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > > using the little red switch. > > > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > > product. > > > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when > > > you can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never > > > been addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to > > > Release 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For > > > your edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to > > > rectify that situation now: > > > > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > > > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > > > enlightened. > > > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep > > > you great deals of money. > > > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > > > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > > > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of > > > the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by > > > the enlightened person. Be warned. > > > > > > > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
As Share prods me to end my beasty number ending in 666, in another post, I move along here, to this compliment to the Turq, from Michael. I agree with Michael. I enjoy Turq's big head writing. I only thrash at him (He who goes by the name of Barry, but I am not quite personal enough to call him anything in a formal, except to fuck off, as Ann and I believe Dr. Dumbass have said here somewhere on these FFL group pages.) Turq, I enjoy your writing too. Sometimes they do get long winded and boring, but I still stomach through them, because sometimes past your ego, you do put together fine sentences many of the times. You are worth the skim through. A one night stand dressed in different clothing can make it feel like new, when you run out of material. Seriously, the squeaky wheel gets the oil and you have much rusted debris to keep the volume up for a good time to come. Fuck off, Turq. Keep up the good work. ;) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love your > writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > something great. > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > ignorant folks out. > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is flawed > by an improper understanding of the relationship between the enlightened and > the...uh...not so much. > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened themselves > as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a section I > have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened have failed > to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or skipped over > the Prerequisites section. > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of the > things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using the > new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > installing and running a Java-based program > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > using the little red switch. > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled program > will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our marketing and > sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our product. > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify that > situation now: > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > enlightened. > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > great deals of money. > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of the > enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree with > them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a problem, 2) > that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, is more > capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX your problem > if you just pay them enough attention and money may result again in improper > installation of the enlighte
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
I did not realize that you have lived such a sheltered existence, Edg. Get out more, see the world, meet some real people. Then you will be embarrassed, I hope, by what you have written here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful > phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > He knows his own mind. > > He is brave. > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life > do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? > > And despite his having pissed me off by the ton, FFL would be almost hollowed > out if he stopped writing here. > > And Curtis likes him like a brother. > > My biggest gripe about him as a writer is that he tosses off a ton of his > stuff without any major re-writing. That's okay, cuz he's just funnin' iz > all, but yeah, he could benefit from taking to heart the best advice I ever > got as a writer -- from L.B.Shriver -- that is: to "kill your precious > little darlings." Every single day as a writer, I have to toss out some of > my best stuff because is just doesn't belong in what I'm writing at the time. > Ironic that, eh? > > So keep on writing you bastard! > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > > heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > > > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at > > > it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I > > > > love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have > > > > achieved something great. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Thanks for the nice comments, Edg. I promise to keep being a bastard. And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > He knows his own mind. > > He is brave. > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? > > And despite his having pissed me off by the ton, FFL would be almost hollowed out if he stopped writing here. > > And Curtis likes him like a brother. > > My biggest gripe about him as a writer is that he tosses off a ton of his stuff without any major re-writing. That's okay, cuz he's just funnin' iz all, but yeah, he could benefit from taking to heart the best advice I ever got as a writer -- from L.B.Shriver -- that is: to "kill your precious little darlings." Every single day as a writer, I have to toss out some of my best stuff because is just doesn't belong in what I'm writing at the time. Ironic that, eh? > > So keep on writing you bastard! > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > > heart. > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved something great. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Edg, I'm going to respectfully (because you are a very fine writer) disagree. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. Speak for yourself. I don't often find a new concept that I think is of much value in Barry's posts. > He creates wonderful phrases that nail down his nuances. That's what I meant by "showy," actually. > He communicates! So do many hack writers. The issue for me is *what* he communicates. That's where "shallow" comes in. The rest of your points have to do with Barry as a person, not Barry as a writer. I disagree with them even more strongly. > He knows his own mind. He has less self-knowledge than anybody I have ever encountered. > He is brave. Doesn't take much courage to be a dick. Where it counts, he is an extreme moral coward. > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many > others in your life do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? I'll give you this where FFL is concerned, but when I'm looking for good information about the pulse of Europe, I'll go with the better bloggers and professional journalists. Travel writing you can find anywhere. > And despite his having pissed me off by the ton, FFL would > be almost hollowed out if he stopped writing here. IMHO, when Barry occasionally absents himself for a day or more, this forum is *vastly* more interesting and pleasant. > And Curtis likes him like a brother. Not a recommendation in my book. (Curtis, BTW, is not what I'd call a hack writer. There are other problems with his writing, though.) > My biggest gripe about him as a writer is that he tosses off > a ton of his stuff without any major re-writing. That's okay, > cuz he's just funnin' iz all, but yeah, he could benefit from > taking to heart the best advice I ever got as a writer -- from > L.B.Shriver -- that is: to "kill your precious little > darlings." Original quote, from Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch: "Whenever you feel an impulse to perpetrate a piece of exceptionally fine writing, obey it whole-heartedly and delete it before sending your manuscripts to press. Murder your darlings". One is tempted to wonder whether Quiller-Couch wrote "your precious little darlings" to start with and then proceeded to murder "precious little." ;-) I agree with you about the need for Barry to rewrite, but more for the purpose of seeing whether what he's written actually makes sense. A good bit of the time, it doesn't. Making sense takes more attention than just writing what sounds good. > Every single day as a writer, I have to toss out > some of my best stuff because is just doesn't belong in what > I'm writing at the time. Ironic that, eh? You can't be a good writer if irony doesn't flow through your very veins, IMHO. Another reason Barry is a hack. (No, I wasn't punning on "hemoglobin," at least not intentionally.) > > So keep on writing you bastard! > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > > heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > > > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at > > > it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I > > > > love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have > > > > achieved something great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, > but I love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you > I will have achieved something great. Well, if you liked this rap, know that you inspired it. I read your post over coffee on my balcony this morning, got to your line " heppin' the rest of us ignorant folks out," and laughed. Fortunately, I was not actually drinking the coffee at the time, or the laugh might have turned into the need for a new keyboard. What it turned into instead was this rap. Once I started it just flowed out. WYSIWYG, no edits. Just write, then push Send. Sometimes that's a mistake, but in my experience if you're laughing as you write it, you're usually pretty safe in just going for it. Those who get it will laugh, too. Those who don't have bigger and more important things to do, like getting that stick out of where it don't belong. :-) > > From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > ignorant folks out. > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened have failed to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before installing and running a Java-based program > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on using the little red switch. > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our product. > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify that situation now: > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become enlightened. > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you great deals of money. > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the enlightened person. Be warned. > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree with them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a problem, 2) that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, is more capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX your problem if you just pay them enough attention and money may result again in improper installation of the enlightenmentware, not to mention more tantrums. > > * Never, never, NEVER ask the enlightened person who is benevolently sharing their valuable time and energy to hep you become so like them WHY you'd want to do so. This is a demonstration of having failed to accept the base conditions that allow an enlightened person to make a living without having to
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Barry is not a hack writer. > > He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful > phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! > > He knows his own mind. > > He is brave. > > He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life > do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? > > And despite his having pissed me off by the ton, FFL would be almost hollowed > out if he stopped writing here. > > And Curtis likes him like a brother. > > My biggest gripe about him as a writer is that he tosses off a ton of his > stuff without any major re-writing. That's okay, cuz he's just funnin' iz > all, but yeah, he could benefit from taking to heart the best advice I ever > got as a writer -- from L.B.Shriver -- that is: to "kill your precious > little darlings." Every single day as a writer, I have to toss out some of > my best stuff because is just doesn't belong in what I'm writing at the time. > Ironic that, eh? > > So keep on writing you bastard! Oh, don't worry, he'll never stop or being a bastard. Have no fears. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > > heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > > > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at > > > it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I > > > > love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have > > > > achieved something great. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times the > writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing > to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually > make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. What the hell is this Dr? First the "Is it safe?" post and now this that I just read after posting my own MJ writing kudos. I think sometimes we share the same wavelength (is that the same as a wavicle?) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a > > section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened > > have failed to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or > > skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > > installing and running a Java-based program > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > using the little red switch. > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > product. > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify > > that situation now: > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > > enlightened. > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > > great deals of money. > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of > > the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree > > with them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a > > problem, 2) that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, > > is more capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX > > your problem if you just pay them enough attention and money may result > > again in improper installation of the enlightenmentware, not to mention > > more tantrums. > > > > > > * Never, never, NEVER ask the enlightened person who is benevolently > > sharing their valuable time and
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love your > writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > something great. Actually MJ, you write purty darn well. Don't covet what Barry does, either writing-wise or any other wise. I noticed you could wield the virtual pen here as well as anyone very early on when I first started to read your posts. You have written some very cogent and readable material. But Barry will thank you for making at least part of his day with your praise - it doesn't come his way very often here. > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > ignorant folks out. > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is flawed > by an improper understanding of the relationship between the enlightened and > the...uh...not so much. > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened themselves > as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a section I > have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened have failed > to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or skipped over > the Prerequisites section. > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of the > things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using the > new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > installing and running a Java-based program > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > using the little red switch. > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled program > will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our marketing and > sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our product. > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify that > situation now: > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > enlightened. > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > great deals of money. > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of the > enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree with > them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a problem, 2) > that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, is more > capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX your problem > if you just pay them enough attention and money may result again in improper > installation of the enlightenmentware, not to mention more tantrums. > > > * Never, never, NEVER ask the enlightened person who is benevolently > sharing their valuable time and energy to hep you become so like them WHY > you'd want to do so. This is a demonstration of having failed to accept the > base conditions that allow an enlightened person to make a living without > having to work. Bad juju. Don't even *think* of asking WHY you'd want to > become so like them. Doubts are BAD. Just *accept* the basic premise that > they're
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Barry is not a hack writer. He introduces us all to new concepts on a DAILY basis. He creates wonderful phrases that nail down his nuances. He communicates! He knows his own mind. He is brave. He's in fucking Europe and taking its pulse -- how many others in your life do you have as an on-the-spot reporter? And despite his having pissed me off by the ton, FFL would be almost hollowed out if he stopped writing here. And Curtis likes him like a brother. My biggest gripe about him as a writer is that he tosses off a ton of his stuff without any major re-writing. That's okay, cuz he's just funnin' iz all, but yeah, he could benefit from taking to heart the best advice I ever got as a writer -- from L.B.Shriver -- that is: to "kill your precious little darlings." Every single day as a writer, I have to toss out some of my best stuff because is just doesn't belong in what I'm writing at the time. Ironic that, eh? So keep on writing you bastard! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > heart. > > > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at it, > > whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > > something great. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > pinky-swear. You just reminded me of one of my favorite jokes: > > Scene: Mid-1970's. Fierce winter at the White House. The Secret Service, > patrolling the grounds, finds someone has written, "Fuck Nixon!", in yellow > snow. The President demands an explanation. "Well Sir, the handwriting is > Pat's, but the urine is Kissinger's..." > Ha! Gives new meaning to Tricky Dicky. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times > > > the writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has > > > nothing to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU > > > could actually make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a > > > tech writer. > > > > > True dat, Doc. MJ writes with his heart. Barry writes with his dick. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I > > > > love your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have > > > > achieved something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much > > > > like a section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The > > > > unenlightened have failed to become All That They Could Be because they > > > > didn't RTFM, or skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all > > > > of the things one has to have in place or have done before > > > > installing/using the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual > > > > is about. Like, before installing and running a Java-based program > > > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have > > > > installed Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of > > > > launching a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to > > > > run in. Not to mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, > > > > and turning it on using the little red switch. > > > > > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought > > > > our product. > > > > > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when > > > > you can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never > > > > been addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to > > > > Release 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For > > > > your edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to > > > > rectify that situation now: > > > > > > > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very > > > > few of the enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba > > > > to become enlightened. > > > > > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep > > > > you great deals of money. > > > > > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have > > > > just paid to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. > > > > Failure to follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed > > > > installation of the enlightenment software, but in
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
pinky-swear. You just reminded me of one of my favorite jokes: Scene: Mid-1970's. Fierce winter at the White House. The Secret Service, patrolling the grounds, finds someone has written, "Fuck Nixon!", in yellow snow. The President demands an explanation. "Well Sir, the handwriting is Pat's, but the urine is Kissinger's..." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times > > the writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has > > nothing to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could > > actually make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech > > writer. > > > True dat, Doc. MJ writes with his heart. Barry writes with his dick. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like > > > a section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The > > > unenlightened have failed to become All That They Could Be because they > > > didn't RTFM, or skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, > > > before installing and running a Java-based program > > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a > > > JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > > using the little red switch. > > > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > > product. > > > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when > > > you can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never > > > been addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to > > > Release 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For > > > your edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to > > > rectify that situation now: > > > > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > > > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > > > enlightened. > > > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep > > > you great deals of money. > > > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > > > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > > > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of > > > the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by > > > the enlightened person. Be warned. > > > > > > > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > > > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree > > > with them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a > > > problem
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times the > writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing > to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually > make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > True dat, Doc. MJ writes with his heart. Barry writes with his dick. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > something great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > > > > > Â > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > > ignorant folks out. > > > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened > > themselves as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a > > section I have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened > > have failed to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or > > skipped over the Prerequisites section. > > > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of > > the things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using > > the new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > > installing and running a Java-based program > > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > > using the little red switch. > > > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled > > program will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our > > marketing and sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our > > product. > > > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify > > that situation now: > > > > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > > enlightened. > > > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > > great deals of money. > > > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of > > the enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree > > with them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a > > problem, 2) that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, > > is more capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX > > your problem if you just pay them enough attention and money may result > > again in improper installation of the enlightenmentware, not to mention > > more tantrums. > > > > > > * Never, never, NEVER ask the enlightened person who is benevolently > > sharing their valuable time and energy to hep you become so like them WHY > > you'd want to do so. This is a demonstration of having failed to accept the > > base cond
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
MJ's stories engage me, and have a timeless quality to them. There is no obvious purpose to them, except for enjoyment, and bringing the reader in. He also has an exceptional ear for the flow of dialogue. Big Fan! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > > hundred times the writer than this guy is. > > Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. > > Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I > didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences > of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of > heart. > > > > > > > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at it, > > whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > > something great. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a > hundred times the writer than this guy is. Have to agree. Barry's a hack writer--showy, but shallow. Michael, I was hors de combat when you posted them, so I didn't get a chance to tell you, but those reminiscences of yours were superb, beautifully written *and* full of heart. > YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a > writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at it, > whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love > > your writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > > something great.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Just *one* more sip of coffee, Michael, for you. You are a hundred times the writer than this guy is. YOU could get published, whereas Barry has nothing to say - he is in a writer's rut, and has been for years. YOU could actually make money at it, whereas Barry never will, except as a tech writer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I know there are a lot of people on FFL who dislike you Turq, but I love your > writing - if one day I can write as well as you I will have achieved > something great. > > > > > > > > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Prerequisites for Enlightenment > > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > ignorant folks out. > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is flawed > by an improper understanding of the relationship between the enlightened and > the...uh...not so much. > > The "real story" of why so many have failed to become enlightened themselves > as a result of the beneficence of the enlightened is much like a section I > have to create often when doing tech writing. The unenlightened have failed > to become All That They Could Be because they didn't RTFM, or skipped over > the Prerequisites section. > > In the Prerequisites section of technical documentation, one lists all of the > things one has to have in place or have done before installing/using the > new-fangled software or hardware that the manual is about. Like, before > installing and running a Java-based program > on your computer, there is a prerequisite that you have to have installed > Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of launching a JVM > (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to run in. Not to > mention...uh...*having* a computer in the first place, and turning it on > using the little red switch. > > These are all *prerequisites* that must be met before the new-fangled program > will work, and transform your life into the wonderland that our marketing and > sales reps told you it would become if you just bought our product. > > The User's Manual for Enlightenment is notoriously badly written, when you > can find it at all, and contains many Class-A bugs that have never been > addressed, even though the software of enlightenment is now up to Release > 3,784.256.11. In *all* of those releases, the > shitty tech writers have failed to write a Prerequisites section. For your > edification, and that of other hapless seekers, I shall seek to rectify that > situation now: > > > PREREQUISITES FOR BEING HEPPED' TO BE ENLIGHTENED > BY SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY ENLIGHTENED > > > * You need to be somewhat alive, and sentient. To date, very few of the > enlightened have ever been able to hep a rock or an amoeba to become > enlightened. > > * You need to be OPEN to being enlightened. This is usually > demonstrated by being willing to pay those who claim to be able to hep you > great deals of money. > > * You must accept without question that the person you have just paid > to enlighten you is enlightened themselves. THIS IS CRITICAL. Failure to > follow this prerequisite may result in not only a failed installation of the > enlightenment software, but in a series of nasty tantrums thrown by the > enlightened person. Be warned. > > > * When the enlightened person tells you what is WRONG with you that > makes you so unenlightened, and thus SO not like them, you should agree with > them quickly and publicly. Failure to admit that 1) you have a problem, 2) > that the enlightened person, being...uh...enlightened and all, is more > capable of seeing this problem than you are, and 3) they can FIX your problem > if you just pay them enough attention and money may result again in improper > installation of the enlightenmentware, not to mention more tantrums. > > > * Never, never, NEVER ask the enlightened person who is benevolently > sharing their valuable time and energy to hep you become so like them WHY > you'd want to do so. This is a demonstration of having failed to accept the > base conditions that allow an enlightened person to make a living without > having to work. Bad juju. Don't even *think* of asking WHY you'd want to > become so like them. Doubts are BAD. Just *accept* the basic premise that > they're better than you are, and put your energy into becoming more like > them. > > * Similarly, never neve
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment
Lame-o. My answer was shorter, better, funnier, and TRUE! Fail for Barry. And please explain how a JVM works. I ran the technical training for VMware, and just curious if you know. Your "explanation" of why you get uninterrupted YouTube videos at work, "due to having a T1 line", was frankly hilarious!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > wrote: > > > > Given the definition given by the Big M for enlightenment > > and all the glorious things that the enlightened are and > > can do, you would think these TM enlightened would be > > doing marvelous things in the world, especially in the > > area of saving the rest of us from ignorance. I eagerly > > await their coming out and heppin' the rest of us > > ignorant folks out. > > Michael, I think your understanding in this vitally important area is > flawed by an improper understanding of the relationship between the > enlightened and the...uh...not so much. > > installed Java first, and that it has to be functional and capable of > launching a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for the new-fangled program to > run in.