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Plus his health is good, he has financial security and he has a fascinating group of people to interact with online (-: Wishing the sweet spot life to everyone on FFL, especially a certain young grumpy boots down San Diego way. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time
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noozguru I just hope I live to get into my Jupiter mahadasa. I've got a couple more years of Mars, then I think 17 years of Rahu, then Jupiter. Those Jupiter times can be so sweet. A former Amma jyothishi told me Rahu would be good for health and relationships. He was really good at reading the sub charts. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping He must be in a good dasha period. :-D And actually IBM has fumbled a few times. Ask them about OS/2 or what we called half OS. On 05/16/2013 07:43 PM, seventhray27 wrote: You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment
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On 05/17/2013 12:59 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. Careful, dude...you *know* what happens to people who say nice things about people that a certain group here wants only bad things said about. :-) Seriously, thanks for the kind words. It's certainly not as if my life is perfect, but it's as good as I remember it *ever* having been, which is somewhat of an accomplishment for someone my age to be able to say. And given my age (I am without question the oldest person in the building, given the mandatory retirement age in France), it's really a pleasure to be able to put a lifetime's worth of skills to use instead of being retired in some ghastly old folks community and having one's choices of activities for the day be limited to shuffleboard or playing gin rummy. :-) Yup, you are very lucky because as you probably know about anyone over age 50 in the US in the tech field has difficulty finding work. Too many boink head twenty somethings who think they are gods of technology running companies.
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Yes - of course how can one not be grumpy dear Share. You think the secret of happiness is posing with babies. Steve one-ups you, his criteria for happiness is living in a Cosmopolitan city, working at a big company and a family to go back to (forget the fact that it's not Barry's family) Forget about me I think the whole medical industry - psychiatrists, psychologists, Big Pharma, therapists; all clergy, pastors, healers, Gurus are envious of your brilliance !!! You are going to soon put them out of business. No Share dear yours and Barry's stuntedness, Steve's retardedness doesn't make me grumpy. I laugh, laugh my ass off then feel pity and sadness. You guys are hell bent on propping each other up and you don't care how ridiculous, idiotic, moronic, retarded, dishonest you sound. On May 17, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Plus his health is good, he has financial security and he has a fascinating group of people to interact with online (-: Wishing the sweet spot life to everyone on FFL, especially a certain young grumpy boots down San Diego way. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
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And dear Share now that you have figured out my problem I better come clean. I'm envious of Barry - why would I not? I live in Guttersville, Alabama, work as a grocery store clerk, come back to my trailer to drown my unhappiness smoking a pack of Basics, drinking 12 pack of Natural light, listening to Rush Limbaugh, cheering for Crimson Tide, pimping my girl friend and selling my food stamps to get high on cocaine and methamphetamine. Happy? On May 17, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - of course how can one not be grumpy dear Share. You think the secret of happiness is posing with babies. Steve one-ups you, his criteria for happiness is living in a Cosmopolitan city, working at a big company and a family to go back to (forget the fact that it's not Barry's family) Forget about me I think the whole medical industry - psychiatrists, psychologists, Big Pharma, therapists; all clergy, pastors, healers, Gurus are envious of your brilliance !!! You are going to soon put them out of business. No Share dear yours and Barry's stuntedness, Steve's retardedness doesn't make me grumpy. I laugh, laugh my ass off then feel pity and sadness. You guys are hell bent on propping each other up and you don't care how ridiculous, idiotic, moronic, retarded, dishonest you sound. On May 17, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Plus his health is good, he has financial security and he has a fascinating group of people to interact with online (-: Wishing the sweet spot life to everyone on FFL, especially a certain young grumpy boots down San Diego way. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand
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Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment. It's an interesting project. News about it arrived today, for those (few) who might be interested: IBM Worklight Wins SIIA CODiE Award IBM Worklight was just announced as the winner of the 2013 CODiE Award for Best Mobile Development Solution by the Software and Information Industry Association (SIIA), the principal trade association for the software and digital content industries. The SIIA CODiE Award win is a prestigious honor as winners are reviewed and chosen by software industry executives and SIIA member votes. http://www.siia.net/codies/2013/winners_detail.asp?nID=480Â
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On 05/15/2013 10:38 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From my point of view the product has a long way to go before it's really as good as the SIIA thinks, but it's gettin' there. For the record, neither IBM nor ILOG invented Worklight; it was designed by an Israeli company that IBM bought. But in the time since the acquisition (a little over a year) IBM has grown the product tremendously, from the nice idea, but poorly realized stage to the really starting to get there stage. It's simply amazing to learn how much there is TO writing professional mobile apps, whether they be for phones or tablet computers or whatever. It isn't just home programmers writing Angry Birds and selling it for $1.99 a download any more. Apps that are business- worthy need to have full security and be as bullet- proof as any other modern software system. Worklight is just a development tool that makes it easier to build those types of apps. Our real-life customers include banks, health care providers, airlines, transportation firms, etc. It's truly amazing what these tiny computers-in-our-pockets can do. We've got one customer whose app senses that truck drivers are approaching the warehouse for a delivery (via geo-location) and has a crew waiting at the loading dock ready to unload the moment they drive up. Sounds simple, but this simple change of procedure saved the company millions of dollars in lost time since it's been implemented. As Susan says, it's fun to be part of something that is hanging ten on waves of the future... I looked at it but not my cuppa tea. I don't like the cloud. Smacks of old IBM mainframes and consoles. Like you say it makes sense probably more for the business world. But then they sure want to put about everything on the cloud. Probably nothing more than a bunch of goofy suits who are enamored with the latest buzz words yet don't understand shit. You can throw a rock in the business world and hit one of those. Word to the public, keep as much of your computing where you are not a bunch of control freaks on the cloud. ;-) One thing I can say for IBM is they do have better documentation and examples for things. I've found that with their Java examples and more lately with SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics). They cut to the chase and give simple basic examples which is what I'm looking for than some dumb kid showing off for his boss or his next job, writing an overly complicated example you have to untangle (Google examples and docs). One more thing about the cloud: it's not there yet because you have too many monopolist telecoms, especially in the US, trying to profit off the Internet and not building out to the extent that you can have a cloud. In some countries wireless is too undependable for the cloud. Since this targets mobile that has to be there.
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Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment. It's an interesting project. News about it arrived today, for those (few) who might be interested: IBM Worklight Wins SIIA CODiE Award IBM Worklight was just announced as the winner of the 2013 CODiE Award for Best Mobile Development Solution by the Software and Information Industry Association (SIIA), the principal trade association for the software and digital content industries. The SIIA CODiE Award win is a prestigious honor as winners are reviewed and chosen by software industry executives and SIIA member votes. http://www.siia.net/codies/2013/winners_detail.asp?nID=480Â
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Seriously this is the wisdom Share has on her 1st anniversary at FFL - posing with infants is the sure sign of a happy person. This pretty much defines her. This woman is totally alienated from reality if she thinks Barry is the most happiest, spiritual person she has ever come across - this was my biggest concern with Steve, Curtis, Xeno - do not encourage her (or Barry's) paranoia. Let her be titillated by the platitudes, run her damsel-in-distress routine with her innocent questions, her phony laughters, smileys and lame jokes, but please don't encourage her paranoid, sick behavior. Same with Barry. On May 16, 2013, at 12:04 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment. It's an interesting project. News about it arrived today, for those (few) who might be interested: IBM Worklight Wins SIIA CODiE Award IBM Worklight was just announced as the winner of the 2013 CODiE Award for Best
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Steve, Gosh I lost interest in responding to your other post, however I didn't want to leave you in the lurch with the sports-fan syndrome. Anyway I'm sharing some excerpts from this highly confidential research material. What is The Sports-fan Syndrome? Dr. Ravi Chivukula, Psy. D UCLA has defined The Sports-fan Syndrome (SS) to be a blind loyalty that obscures all rational, logical, intelligent behavior. Blind loyalty to a person resulting in the subject making careless, frivolous, reactive statements, coming across as fools, coming at the expense of their self-respect and dignity. When others challenge the subject suffering from SS to provide something rational, intelligent for their loyalty and support they turn turn the tables on their challengers by distorting the truth, presenting vague, ludicrous, twisted facts about their opponents and sometimes indulge in downright slander. SS causes the subject to be totally unaware of their inconsistencies. The subject is a victim of his instincts under the grip of SS, totally at the mercy of the sensations caused by the highs and lows of the object of his blind loyalty. The subject rarely show any remorse and accountability for one's actions. The subject feels a tremendous draining of emotional energy after the SS induced behavior. Dr. Chivukula recommends generous, healthy, daily doses of self-reflection to deal with debilitating condition. The key he says is preventing this blind loyalty to occur in the first place. Overtime this disorder can be avoided by directing this need for indulgence in loyalty to healthy alternatives such as loyalty to an actual sports team and preventing it from impacting one's normal life. On May 15, 2013, at 4:59 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Ravi, I'm in a happy mood right now. Can't even think about entertaining any kind of negativity. Sports-fan Syndrome? Have to think about that. Can't say that I am that big of a sports fan. Yes, I do like hockey, perhaps because I often get free tickets, and my boys both play inline hockey. (quite a step down in prestige, and yes, expense, from ice hockey, but fun nonetheless) But hockey fans are a somewhat different breed of sports fan. I mean, players are out on the ice for about 90 seconds in a full sprint, rest for a two or three minutes, then out for another 90 second sprint. Unless they get in a fight of course. And the glass separating the fans from the players is about 5/8's of an inch thick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Thanks Steve. This is fair enough that you think we are good writers, steadily, stealthily trying to ferret out the truth one's not willing to acknowledge. So I have nothing to be wary of Robin then - you made it seem something sinister by referring to Robin and I was afraid you were going to come up with one or more of the following - 1) Ravi is a fundamentalist trying to use shame to control others (Share) 2) Ravi suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Barry) 3) Ravi is processing undirected anger to make up for his emptiness (Barry) 4) Ravi is indulging in incoherent rants (Curtis) 5) Ravi indulges in word-salad indicative of disassociation (Curtis) You, my friend are in a very better shape than I imagined - clearly in a better, healthier frame of mind - emotionally, psychologically than Share, Barry and Curtis. Anyway I officially have a diagnosis for you - The Sports-fan Syndrome. I will get to that in your other email. On May 15, 2013, at 5:11 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Ravi, thanks for the question. I think Robin is a good writer. I think you are good writer. I mean it's remarkable what proficiency you have in a language that is not your mother tongue. But yes, I do perceive some Robin creep* in some of the expressions you use, but more importantly, in your overall philosophy. You know, this notion, this perceived ability to ferret out the truth of what a person may be unwilling to acknowledge. This ability to know if what they are saying is properly aligned with reality. * creep in verb sense, not adjective sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: What does this really mean Steve - clearly it's an honor to be compared to Robin, especially if it is in his writing style but then we will always be very different in our writing styles and I will never be emulate him in his writing. You are out of your mind to even suggest that. Robin's influence is in other areas, definitely an important one in my life. If there's any reason you think why I should be wary of him - please summarize so we can discuss it in a conventional way. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:11 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: **
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He must be in a good dasha period. :-D And actually IBM has fumbled a few times. Ask them about OS/2 or what we called half OS. On 05/16/2013 07:43 PM, seventhray27 wrote: You know, it seems to me Barry is pretty much hitting the sweet spots of life right now. He's working on a cutting edge technology project for what is probably the most successful technology company that is and ever was. He was hand selected by someone to be the team leader of a portion of the project, he's living in what is considered one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, commuting on the weekends to be with his family, which includes a sweet little girl. How much better can it really get? And to top it off, he sounds as happy as I've ever known him to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Oh Yes! Rapture! I GET IT! The infantile poseur, posing with the infant!!! Don't you SEE it, Ravi?? TGBW is teaching us about Unity Consciousness, how the inside *is* the outside, and vice-versa!! Simply and elegantly, through a photo, offered unapologetically to the peons on FFL. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Ten thousand words! Oh rejoice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Meet Ms. Share Long - the pioneer of Global Halpiness. Ms. Long entered the Guinness book of world records for her 100,000th picture with an infant. Reporters caught up with Ms. Long. Reporter - Ms. Long, is this your secret to happiness - pose with an infant everyday? Ms. Long - Yes, I sincerely believe this. God helped come to this realization and spread this message. All people need to do to be happy is pose with an infant everyday. Reporter - Wow this is impressive. Ms. Long - Yes, people walk up to me everyday, hug and cry and thank me for returning happiness in their lives. Reporter - Ms. Long, who was your inspiration? Ms. Long - it was an enigmatic, enlightened tantric Guru Barry Wright from Amsterdam. He has a habit of throwing his shit at the fan to shock people. But when I visited him I was struck by his photo of him with a little girl. I was totally covered with shit but I realized this was the happiest man in the world and this was the secret to happiness, posing with infants. Tantra Guru Barry Wright's compassion was much, he dramatically transformed my life. On May 16, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, surely unintentionally, turq is teaching me how to love those who are indifferent to me. Big valuable lesson so I'm grateful. So easy to love those who love and or hate us! Reading his scathing posts while remembering the photo of him holding infant Maya, I conclude he's the happiest curmudgeon I've ever known, thus an enigma. Now I'm laughing as I remember that today is my first FFL anniversary. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Wow, Barry. NOt my area of expertise at all, but sounds as if the people who understand what you are all doing think it is really good. Congrats. Nice to be part of a field at its inception and then as it grows (computers etc) Remember Share, he is not your friend and doesn't give a shit how many compliments you give him. But carry on believin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment. It's an interesting project. News about it arrived today, for those (few) who might be interested: IBM Worklight Wins SIIA CODiE Award IBM Worklight was just announced as the winner of the 2013 CODiE Award for Best Mobile Development Solution by the Software and Information Industry Association (SIIA), the principal trade association for the software and digital content industries. The SIIA CODiE Award win is a prestigious honor as winners are reviewed and chosen by software industry
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I agree. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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Thanks Steve. This is fair enough that you think we are good writers, steadily, stealthily trying to ferret out the truth one's not willing to acknowledge. So I have nothing to be wary of Robin then - you made it seem something sinister by referring to Robin and I was afraid you were going to come up with one or more of the following - 1) Ravi is a fundamentalist trying to use shame to control others (Share) 2) Ravi suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Barry) 3) Ravi is processing undirected anger to make up for his emptiness (Barry) 4) Ravi is indulging in incoherent rants (Curtis) 5) Ravi indulges in word-salad indicative of disassociation (Curtis) You, my friend are in a very better shape than I imagined - clearly in a better, healthier frame of mind - emotionally, psychologically than Share, Barry and Curtis. Anyway I officially have a diagnosis for you - The Sports-fan Syndrome. I will get to that in your other email. On May 15, 2013, at 5:11 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Ravi, thanks for the question. I think Robin is a good writer. I think you are good writer. I mean it's remarkable what proficiency you have in a language that is not your mother tongue. But yes, I do perceive some Robin creep* in some of the expressions you use, but more importantly, in your overall philosophy. You know, this notion, this perceived ability to ferret out the truth of what a person may be unwilling to acknowledge. This ability to know if what they are saying is properly aligned with reality. * creep in verb sense, not adjective sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: What does this really mean Steve - clearly it's an honor to be compared to Robin, especially if it is in his writing style but then we will always be very different in our writing styles and I will never be emulate him in his writing. You are out of your mind to even suggest that. Robin's influence is in other areas, definitely an important one in my life. If there's any reason you think why I should be wary of him - please summarize so we can discuss it in a conventional way. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:11 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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Agree with what? A summary please. On May 15, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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On May 15, 2013, at 1:32 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Agree with what? A summary please. That you're sounding more and more like Robin. Right - Steve has explained why he thinks he got the Robin feel, I wanted to hear Share say why she got the Robin feel, like Steve in a couple of lines at least rather than some vague, meaningless statement like I agree. I'm very curious. Watch it. They may be setting you up to be the next PR. Yes - that's a strong possibility, doesn't look like they at this point - only Share, she will find herself alone in that viewpoint. On May 15, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I agree. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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On May 15, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: What is the lesson we can take home here? Who's right here? Well, for starters, asking someone who you regard as clueless to answer a question would indicate that you do not know where to point your question. Did you watch Clueless? She grows up - tada !!!
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Grandpa Xeno only equivocates if it's Barry, Curtis or Share - when it's someone like Robin he falls down, a rapid descent from Unity Consciousness to Clam Consciousness - very dramatic LOL. On May 15, 2013, at 3:00 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I can only repeat what I said before. You can equivocate to the moon, but it doesn't change his dynamic. Comes through loud, clear and often for me. I also don't buy your, He's only an asshole when you're looking, routine. Throughout my career as a hiring manager, I interviewed hundreds of people. I developed a saying from such interactions; the micro is the macro. Meaning that one significant spot of dirt during the interview, would sure as shit turn into a mud wallow once the person was interviewed further, or god forbid, on the job. You may rationalize all you want. I am simply evaluating my aggregate experience of Barry. One sad old fuck, that one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Dr, that is not the way love flows. You do not ask for it. If you have it it flows out, and whatever it comes in contact with either accepts or deflects. I think it would be difficult to judge based on his interactions with the strange bunch that we are on FFL. We do not know much about his non-posting private life. He has a job; he has friends, he seems to like where he lives and works. Our personas here, while they may reflect 'who we are' in some way, are probably largely fictional and artificial compared to the way we act with real people, real time. This is the place where we dump our monsters of the id. This place is the toilet of spirituality. Barry probably has to take a dump once in a while, and so he comes here, briefly, to unload in kind. It is called reciprocity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hey Carol, Barry is the most emotionally needy person on this board. Trouble is, his heart is so atrophied, that the only way he knows to ask for love, is by making abusive comments so that others will slap him down. Now he can barely tell the difference between his need and the inevitable response. At least a slap indicates some sort of attention for him. One sad old fuck, that one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Barry, I feel sure you will not respond to me because you never have, other than to accuse me (with false statements, btw) when I posted here with a Knapp update some months back. From my perusals here on FFL, you have mentioned more than once about how you do not interact with people whom you deem not worth your time and whom you feel are just out to manipulate you. Now certain folks are part of the Hate Brigade. (Does make others part of the Love Brigade?) Then you admonish or reprimand or point out to certain posters their (the posters') mistakes (or stupidity, if I recall correctly) in continuing to communicate with people whom you deem not worthy to communicate with. Aren't others on this board adults and able to make their own decisions regarding how they choose to interact with others on this forum? From the bit I've read the people you admonish never ask for your advice/suggestions. What's up with that? You trying to start your own little forum cult? I've read a few times where you throw out the narcissistic accusation. It seems to me that you have a bit of it going on yourself with the pronouncements of who is worth communicating with and who isn't. What good is it to dehumanize others and deem them unworthy to communicate with, putting yourself on some higher plane? It just promotes more us/them camps. Not that you care; I imagine you don't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. I can certainly see that. There is the same narcissism, and the same tendency to take words and buzz-phrases used by other people and parrot them as if they actually understood what the words meant. And they both seem to have graduated with honors from the same Bad Writing 101 class, while having skipped the How To Write Something Original And/Or Creative classes, preferring to smoke cigarettes in the schoolyard instead. :-) There is ALSO, I might mention, the same delight that they take in finding someone -- ANYONE -- who will keep replying to them on FFL, as if they were actually worth replying to. These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the
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Well yeah, though I have never watched an entire game I have seen highlights on ESPN Sports center so I think I am aware of those aspects of Ice Hockey. Anyway I will respond after work and you can skip it and read it tomorrow. On May 15, 2013, at 4:59 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Ravi, I'm in a happy mood right now. Can't even think about entertaining any kind of negativity. Sports-fan Syndrome? Have to think about that. Can't say that I am that big of a sports fan. Yes, I do like hockey, perhaps because I often get free tickets, and my boys both play inline hockey. (quite a step down in prestige, and yes, expense, from ice hockey, but fun nonetheless) But hockey fans are a somewhat different breed of sports fan. I mean, players are out on the ice for about 90 seconds in a full sprint, rest for a two or three minutes, then out for another 90 second sprint. Unless they get in a fight of course. And the glass separating the fans from the players is about 5/8's of an inch thick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Thanks Steve. This is fair enough that you think we are good writers, steadily, stealthily trying to ferret out the truth one's not willing to acknowledge. So I have nothing to be wary of Robin then - you made it seem something sinister by referring to Robin and I was afraid you were going to come up with one or more of the following - 1) Ravi is a fundamentalist trying to use shame to control others (Share) 2) Ravi suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Barry) 3) Ravi is processing undirected anger to make up for his emptiness (Barry) 4) Ravi is indulging in incoherent rants (Curtis) 5) Ravi indulges in word-salad indicative of disassociation (Curtis) You, my friend are in a very better shape than I imagined - clearly in a better, healthier frame of mind - emotionally, psychologically than Share, Barry and Curtis. Anyway I officially have a diagnosis for you - The Sports-fan Syndrome. I will get to that in your other email. On May 15, 2013, at 5:11 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Ravi, thanks for the question. I think Robin is a good writer. I think you are good writer. I mean it's remarkable what proficiency you have in a language that is not your mother tongue. But yes, I do perceive some Robin creep* in some of the expressions you use, but more importantly, in your overall philosophy. You know, this notion, this perceived ability to ferret out the truth of what a person may be unwilling to acknowledge. This ability to know if what they are saying is properly aligned with reality. * creep in verb sense, not adjective sense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: What does this really mean Steve - clearly it's an honor to be compared to Robin, especially if it is in his writing style but then we will always be very different in our writing styles and I will never be emulate him in his writing. You are out of your mind to even suggest that. Robin's influence is in other areas, definitely an important one in my life. If there's any reason you think why I should be wary of him - please summarize so we can discuss it in a conventional way. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:11 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...: ** It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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turq, if this is what you've been working on, congratulations! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: These days, Steve, you're pretty much It for the Hate Brigade, since you're one of the only people who will bother even trying to interact with them as if they might have something to say. I think that's magnanimous and compassionate of you, but to them it just makes you a target. I admit Barry, I find FFL rather dull without those interactions. So I guess I'm a pretty guilty party. You've definitely got a point there about FFL as a whole. :-) If you're having fun interacting with these folks, by all means continue. It stopped being even interesting for me some time ago. BTW, neat story about your current working assignment. It's an interesting project. News about it arrived today, for those (few) who might be interested: IBM Worklight Wins SIIA CODiE Award IBM Worklight was just announced as the winner of the 2013 CODiE Award for Best Mobile Development Solution by the Software and Information Industry Association (SIIA), the principal trade association for the software and digital content industries. The SIIA CODiE Award win is a prestigious honor as winners are reviewed and chosen by software industry executives and SIIA member votes. http://www.siia.net/codies/2013/winners_detail.asp?nID=480
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Arlington National Cemetery today. We visited the grave site of my Mom's grandfather, so my great grandfather. I actually knew in person my great grandparents on my Dad's side. Anyway, my Mom's grandad was a veterinarian in the cavalry during WWI. Mom's been wanting to do that for a while. It is quite a beautiful cemetery. Then we went to an oyster bar for lunch, Old Ebbitt's Grill near the White House. Power lunch! (-: From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: snip Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. Excellent point Share. And yes, it does make you have compassion, or at least some degree of compassion for those who seek to spin whatever someone says, whom they dislike, into some sort of skewed conclusion. A prayer comes to mind that my grandmother used to tell me when I would spend the night at her house as a child, and we would talk about those less fortunate. There, but for the grace of God, go I I've read ahead here to the perfunctory negative replies from Ravi and Judy. They are just ramping up. Getting their barber straps out. Glad you are having a good time in Maryland. Thanks for sharing some of the details.
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It's official Steve - when asked to contribute something intelligent, rational you revert to your default coping strategy of deflecting it by trying to present a distorted, contorted, and/or ludicrous version of the truth. Like the RaviGuru, Western Yogi words of mine - devoid of the context, the intent and the consciousness of the person making it. I have already explained it to you in the past, in detail - this is from 3 years back for god's sake and I was fucking intoxicated, my very first time absolutely drunk and unlike your stunted personality, I am a dramatically different person today - emotionally, psychologically. I understand who I am, what my qualities are, my strengths are - what my vision, philosophy is, which you in your present moronic consciousness are unable to see or acknowledge. Now coming to you - you are still the same old person. I have repeatedly pointed out the frivolous, careless, reactive posts of yours - all I get is silence. Repeatedly answered your slander, distortions, ludicrous twists of truth and you occasionally show some remorse. This is what Share said - Ravi is a fundamentalist who uses shame to control. I was asking you to comment on that and how my response was negative and perfunctory. A short summary will do. Or you can just say hey I plan to stick with Share come what may and that's fine. It's not like I haven't commented on your loyalty. I personally would hate anyone being loyal to me at the expense of truth - but whatever rocks your boat. Loyalty is fine in sports not so in life, not at the expense of truth anyway. Just don't act like your support has any meaning unless you can come up with something intelligent. Don't act like a stubborn child demanding attention. All I get is that you are mad at me for confronting Share or Curtis but I get nothing from you that even remotely comes close to proving I'm wrong. All you have is slander and/or half-truths, truth - distorted and contorted. The amount of energy, intelligence I spend on you shows I respect you more than you respect yourself. You and Share definitely have a choice to be shameless and of course you have both proven to be shameless so far. God is merciful as they say, kept you guys far apart, prevented you from possibly creating more shameless retardlets - you would have certainly caused the Shiva guy to be ashamed of his Universe destroying skills. Or may be he will thank me and at the end of the Kalpa get you guys together so he can use that extra time to - yep you got it - have more sex with the Devi (that bastard !!!) P.S. You have enough material in my posts to come with a coherent, intelligent post to distance yourselves from the shameless liars, people devoid of truth, integrity - distance yourself with dignity, with honor. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:54 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Ravi, I get it that your role here, and perhaps your envisioned role in life, is to deliver the ultimate truth of any situation. This is an ability you discovered as a young child. You are rarely wrong, (so you say), and if you find you are wrong, you will apologize. I guess that last part is thrown in as a technicality, even if it never appears to be the case. And let's be real about it. I think this was the basis of declaring yourself RaviGuru the new, great western yogi a few years back. That didn't seem to go over too well did it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Read it again Steve - there are enough qualifiers to keep you interested. Don't forget your record here - show me a single post of yours in the recent past where you have engaged in some kind of rational, intelligent discussion. I have a lot - don't push your luck. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** I'm glad you asked Ravi. It's all right here. How do you argue, or discuss something with someone who has this attitude? I know. You don't! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343429 Yes - I have a special ability, insight into judging people. Even electronic medium is no barrier. An intuition right from my childhood. It's untainted by any intellectual process - so powerful is my intuition and rarely does it go wrong. If I come after you, you bet your retarded ass it will stick, if not I will bend over backwards to apologize. All the people I have exposed had some deception, the level and intensity varies - and in many cases I wasn't even aware of it. It happens outside of my intellect. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh Steve - I yearn for more. How is it perfunctory and how is it negative? What was the spin, how was it skewed against Ms. Self-Avowed Shameless Share? What's your expert analysis - a few bullet points would help. Imagine a hockey game and provide us a post-game
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Hilarious Steve - let's see what you got Ravi doesn't discuss, indulges in back and forth Well duh, that's what I am doing - am I not? Are you so clueless to what we are doing here. You, OTOH - are not discussing, just reacting blindly clueless to your inconsistencies here/ Ravi's personality hasn't changed - many would disagree Please be my guest and provide your analysis, something other than Ravi insults and is crazy. Ravi doesn't have any special insight about me Provide your arguments against it - why are you not loyal, why your posts are not careless, frivolous, reactive - why you don't blindly support Share. Ravi is arbiter of truth I said you are loyal - you don't disagree. I said you make frivolous, careless, reactive posts - you didn't disagree. I said you are within your rights to support Share but don't pretend you have anything intelligent in her defense - you didn't disagree. Ravi has never apologized to anyone OMFG - I just apologized to you last week. I felt bad at the torrent of my insults, I said - Steve, I'm sorry I was so harsh on you. I apologized to Raunchy, Alex in the past, I apologized/felt bad for my behavior against Robin, Bob Price. I analyze my behavior always - it's just a fantasy of yours You have nothing Steve - nothing as of yet. Give me something Steve. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** well, finally you got around to me. let me make a few comments, before I get to a closing statement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: It's official Steve - when asked to contribute something intelligent, rational you revert to your default coping strategy of deflecting it by trying to present a distorted, contorted, and/or ludicrous version of the truth. will have to wait for closing statement Like the RaviGuru, Western Yogi words of mine - devoid of the context, the intent and the consciousness of the person making it. I have already explained it to you in the past, in detail - this is from 3 years back for god's sake and I was fucking intoxicated, my very first time absolutely drunk and unlike your stunted personality, I am a dramatically different person today - emotionally, psychologically. glad to hear it Ravi. on the other hand, that view of yourself may not be shared by others. but good enough that you feel that way. I guess? I understand who I am, what my qualities are, my strengths are - what my vision, philosophy is, which you in your present moronic consciousness are unable to see or acknowledge. right, I think this is an ongoing difficulty. i.e. others not appreciating your greatness Now coming to you - you are still the same old person. I have repeatedly pointed out the frivolous, careless, reactive posts of yours - all I get is silence. Repeatedly answered your slander, distortions, ludicrous twists of truth and you occasionally show some remorse. you have at least presented some explanation for some of your actions. people can draw their own conclusions about what it indicates about your personality. This is what Share said - Ravi is a fundamentalist who uses shame to control. I was asking you to comment on that and how my response was negative and perfunctory. A short summary will do. I don't know if it's shame or ridicule you employ in attacking those you disagree with. I don't think it really matters. But let me cut to a closing summary. You have laid out the ground rules for your interactions here. First, that you have a unique and special ability to ferret out the truth of what a person is saying, or the truth about most any situation. You discovered this ability as a child, and it provides a nearly flawless background from which you make conclusions about people or things. In fact this ability is so remarkable, that it happens without you even being aware of it. There may be a situation where you error, and in such a case you will apologize. In practice we haven't really seen this. So basically, what you are saying is that one must accept your judgment of them, i.e. whomever you might be addressing as being an infallible evaluation. In other words you really are RaviGuru, the great, unrecognized western yogi. I really see no difference between then and now. But good that you see a difference. And yes, the similarities to Robin are evident. Not surprising that you hold Robin in such esteem. Or you can just say hey I plan to stick with Share come what may and that's fine. It's not like I haven't commented on your loyalty. I personally would hate anyone being loyal to me at the expense of truth - but whatever rocks your boat. Loyalty is fine in sports not so in life, not at the expense of truth anyway. And it goes without saying that you are the final arbiter of truth. This is one of your platforms. Just don't act like your support has any meaning unless you
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Ravi, I'll ignore the strange way you've framed things here, and respond in a more straightforward way. No it wasn't a strange way, it was an Engineer's approach, to neatly summarize - looking back a brilliant move. Because it shows how clueless and unaware you are to your own very words. Fits in with my Steve = careless, frivolous, reactive poster, a man blind to his inconsistencies. More of it below. Although I can't recall the details of those apologies The problem is that some point I sort of stopped paying attention to those accusations. Same pattern - careless, reactive - no accusation here Steve. It is always refreshing when you engage as just an equal participant. yet..further down But I think you have such a high opinion of yourself that you find it difficult to interact in a more conventional way. Inconsistent - I cannot both engage as an equal participant yet fail to demonstrate an ability to interact in a conventional way. More.. I resonate with much of what Share writes. Is that a problem for you? Obviously Share is one of your favorite targets to castigate. If I disagree with what you write, I will say so. Pretty simple really. Yes - read again I said - you have every right to support her. But it's nothing rational, nothing intelligent - blind loyalty, careless, frivolous, reactive posts, slandering and distorting/perverting truth in this blind loyalty. I have run out of steam Steve. Unless you have something more - this is just once again confirmations of your patterns. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:58 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Ravi, I'll ignore the strange way you've framed things here, and respond in a more straightforward way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Hilarious Steve - let's see what you got Ravi doesn't discuss, indulges in back and forth It is always refreshing when you engage as just an equal participant. But I get the feeling that you find that constitutionally offensive. You simply believe that your perspective is more correct, and you express that opinion in harsh terms. No problem, but expect pushback. Well duh, that's what I am doing - am I not? Are you so clueless to what we are doing here. You, OTOH - are not discussing, just reacting blindly clueless to your inconsistencies here/ Yes, you are doing that here. And this other is one of the usual accusations you make against me. The problem is that some point I sort of stopped paying attention to those accusations. I am sorry about that. I'd like to think that I am open to constructive criticisms, but I have to feel as thought they are coming from a place of credibility. Ravi's personality hasn't changed - many would disagree Please be my guest and provide your analysis, something other than Ravi insults and is crazy. I don't believe I ever said you were crazy. In fact, I don't believe that. I think you have an exceptional mind. But I think you have such a high opinion of yourself that you find it difficult to interact in a more conventional way. (read: without a lot of insults) Ravi doesn't have any special insight about me Provide your arguments against it - why are you not loyal, why your posts are not careless, frivolous, reactive - why you don't blindly support Share. I resonate with much of what Share writes. Is that a problem for you? Obviously Share is one of your favorite targets to castigate. If I disagree with what you write, I will say so. Pretty simple really. Ravi is arbiter of truth I said you are loyal - you don't disagree. I said you make frivolous, careless, reactive posts - you didn't disagree. I said you are within your rights to support Share but don't pretend you have anything intelligent in her defense - you didn't disagree. Those are your opinions. Nothing wrong with that. Why would I feel the need to defend my position on those things. Call it the way you see it. Ravi has never apologized to anyone OMFG - I just apologized to you last week. I felt bad at the torrent of my insults, I said - Steve, I'm sorry I was so harsh on you. I apologized to Raunchy, Alex in the past, I apologized/felt bad for my behavior against Robin, Bob Price. I analyze my behavior always - it's just a fantasy of yours Well, yes you have apologized in the past. Although I can't recall the details of those apologies. Apologies can be of different degrees. Your apology to me last week, was not what I would call an apology. But if that's what you want to call it, fine. You have nothing Steve - nothing as of yet. Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. It never really led to anything, except more soliloquy from Robin. So, I may take a pass on that. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** well, finally you got around to me. let me make a
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What does this really mean Steve - clearly it's an honor to be compared to Robin, especially if it is in his writing style but then we will always be very different in our writing styles and I will never be emulate him in his writing. You are out of your mind to even suggest that. Robin's influence is in other areas, definitely an important one in my life. If there's any reason you think why I should be wary of him - please summarize so we can discuss it in a conventional way. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:11 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** It had a Robin feel to me Judy. Lately, much of what Ravi writes has a Robin feel. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: Give me something Steve. You realize Ravi, that is was a common Robin refrain. Well, no, Steve, it wasn't. He never used that phrase, to anyone.
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Spockley! My hero too, Mr. Alien Manifest (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Right - when faced with the brutal efficiency of the mean machine that is the Judy Truth-O-meter, here are the following ways to cope up with the discomfort, stress it causes. 1) Judy is a cyber-stalker (Barry) 2) Judy is bat-shit crazy (Barry) 3) Judy is an attention-vampire (Barry) 4) Judy is a malicious troll (Curtis) 5) Judy directs toxic energy towards strangers on Internet forums (Curtis) 6) Judy has an unfriendly agenda (Curtis) 7) Judy doesn't have a personal life (Barry, Steve) 8) Judy micro parses everything (Steve, Curtis) 9) Judy doesn't share her personal details (Steve) 10) Judy is part of Robin's cult (Share) 11) Judy is mean (Share) 12) Judy starts fights (Susan) 13) It's just Judy's opinion (Barry, Curtis, Steve, Share, Susan) 14) Facts and truth don't matter in Unity - Guru Xeno I do not think I said this Ravi. Unity is all about 'truth'. And there are facts as well. Without facts, I could not figure out how to make coffee in the morning. 15) Facts, truth are all inventions of the mind - Guru Xeno. There are labels the mind applies to various experiences. Some of these labels are called facts. For example, eggs are white, brown, spotted. I always felt truth was a sense we have in us about what is always reliable, that enables us to navigate life with some kind of precision. The mind applies the word truth to different kinds of experiences. The search for truth in a court proceeding. Confirmation of hypotheses in science. The search for reality in the spiritual sense. All I think is that mind is interpretation once removed from more direct sensory experience. I like you Xeno but sometimes you really remind me of Mr Spock. Ah. My hero! Although it should be said, as a writer's creation Spock came to numerous illogical conclusions; but it was the basic idea, that one could be rational.
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On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. LOL - you such an idiot Grandpa Xeno but you are lovable and you are my lovable, clueless grandpa. Don't nobody else make fun of my Grandpa !!!
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OK - Xeno, let me say this, you have absolutely no fucking clue what Unity is. It's not merely an intellectual concept. We all love Maharishi for explaining Unity so clearly but Unity is an actual mystical, metaphysical metamorphosis. It's not something you can wrap as a belief system. OMG not only are you so clueless but as shameless as Share is when she talks about how everyone has good and bad qualities. No we are not all in Unity you fool - certainly not your ignorant ass. Robin is the only person that I have read here that seems to have demonstrated an empirical knowledge of Unity. How I wish you could keep your ignorant fucking mouth shut on Unity !!! Of course not meant literally because one can never stop idiots like you, it's only meant to somehow shame into some kind of reflection. You seem intelligent enough but are you emotionally, psychologically mature enough to be shamed? FYI - Nabby seems to be more emotionally intelligent than you despite his interests in crop circles, aliens and certainly Barry, the hilarity of Barry to go after Nabby - WTF? On May 13, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. LOL - you such an idiot Grandpa Xeno but you are lovable and you are my lovable, clueless grandpa. Don't nobody else make fun of my Grandpa !!!
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Want to know why I'm so shameless, Ravi? Because I've figured out some time ago that shaming, shaming and more shaming is how Fundamentalists of all ilks try to control people when they have failed to and or continue to fail to control people by using force. Best read up on it, Ravi. Guilt about mistakes and an overall sense of responsibility are healthy. OTOH, shame is an unhealthy belief that something is fundamentally wrong with one's self. Therefore, the inability to be shamed is currently thought to be a sign of emotional and psychological and spiritual maturity. And when Fundamentalists of all ilks get really desperate to control people, they bring out the biggest shaming topic of all. Can you possibly guess what that is? Simply consider what all the religions get most rabid about, what they most want to shame people about, abut which they attempt to exert the most control. Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping OK - Xeno, let me say this, you have absolutely no fucking clue what Unity is. It's not merely an intellectual concept. We all love Maharishi for explaining Unity so clearly but Unity is an actual mystical, metaphysical metamorphosis. It's not something you can wrap as a belief system. OMG not only are you so clueless but as shameless as Share is when she talks about how everyone has good and bad qualities. No we are not all in Unity you fool - certainly not your ignorant ass. Robin is the only person that I have read here that seems to have demonstrated an empirical knowledge of Unity. How I wish you could keep your ignorant fucking mouth shut on Unity !!! Of course not meant literally because one can never stop idiots like you, it's only meant to somehow shame into some kind of reflection. You seem intelligent enough but are you emotionally, psychologically mature enough to be shamed? FYI - Nabby seems to be more emotionally intelligent than you despite his interests in crop circles, aliens and certainly Barry, the hilarity of Barry to go after Nabby - WTF? On May 13, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. LOL - you such an idiot Grandpa Xeno but you are lovable and you are my lovable, clueless grandpa. Don't nobody else make fun of my Grandpa !!!
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Oh my loving, clueless Aunt Share, thank you for explaining why you are so shameless - it's good to know. It explains your callous, brazen disregard in taking accountability for your words. Forget Robin, you couldn't even take responsibility for that frisky feller remark of yours. You couldn't like - hey I wasn't trying to excuse rapists, molesters with my remark and I can see why Judy, Ann and Ravi would take an exception to it. Did you read about the guy in Cleveland? One who imprisoned 3 women as his sex slaves? Do you think he qualifies to be a frisky feller? So - now your emotional scars with shaming is so much that you refuse to take any responsibility for your words - do I get this right? I can easily empathize with it. But remember there are no fundamentalists here, on FFL, trying to shame you into controlling you. What is the difference between shame and guilt? I still speed sometimes and when I cutoff someone on the freeway I do feel ashamed. Should I be feeling guilty instead? How about guilty and ashamed? Are their positive and negative expressions, consequences of this shame or guilt? Would you have felt better if I used the word guilty? How dramatically less fundamentalist is your TM from Catholicism? You think Ravi has a cult or is interested in forming a cult? Anything based upon my writings that would lead an intelligent person to come to that conclusion? Anyway don't necessarily bother Share unless you would like to get back to me with something intelligent and devoid of your fantasies. On May 13, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Want to know why I'm so shameless, Ravi? Because I've figured out some time ago that shaming, shaming and more shaming is how Fundamentalists of all ilks try to control people when they have failed to and or continue to fail to control people by using force. Best read up on it, Ravi. Guilt about mistakes and an overall sense of responsibility are healthy. OTOH, shame is an unhealthy belief that something is fundamentally wrong with one's self. Therefore, the inability to be shamed is currently thought to be a sign of emotional and psychological and spiritual maturity. And when Fundamentalists of all ilks get really desperate to control people, they bring out the biggest shaming topic of all. Can you possibly guess what that is? Simply consider what all the religions get most rabid about, what they most want to shame people about, abut which they attempt to exert the most control. Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coping OK - Xeno, let me say this, you have absolutely no fucking clue what Unity is. It's not merely an intellectual concept. We all love Maharishi for explaining Unity so clearly but Unity is an actual mystical, metaphysical metamorphosis. It's not something you can wrap as a belief system. OMG not only are you so clueless but as shameless as Share is when she talks about how everyone has good and bad qualities. No we are not all in Unity you fool - certainly not your ignorant ass. Robin is the only person that I have read here that seems to have demonstrated an empirical knowledge of Unity. How I wish you could keep your ignorant fucking mouth shut on Unity !!! Of course not meant literally because one can never stop idiots like you, it's only meant to somehow shame into some kind of reflection. You seem intelligent enough but are you emotionally, psychologically mature enough to be shamed? FYI - Nabby seems to be more emotionally intelligent than you despite his interests in crop circles, aliens and certainly Barry, the hilarity of Barry to go after Nabby - WTF? On May 13, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. LOL - you such an idiot Grandpa Xeno but you are lovable and you are my lovable, clueless grandpa. Don't nobody else make fun of my Grandpa !!!
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Oh pray tell me dear Xeno how I'm not relating to you - should I be helping you in your intellectual masturbation? Should I be fucking titillated by your platitudes - would you like me to scream in pleasure and joy in my fake orgasm? OMG how I wish I was a woman right now - that would have surely helped me relate to you. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravi, I have to be clueless, otherwise you won't be able to relate to me at all. You are having enough trouble as it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: OK - Xeno, let me say this, you have absolutely no fucking clue what Unity is. It's not merely an intellectual concept. We all love Maharishi for explaining Unity so clearly but Unity is an actual mystical, metaphysical metamorphosis. It's not something you can wrap as a belief system. OMG not only are you so clueless but as shameless as Share is when she talks about how everyone has good and bad qualities. No we are not all in Unity you fool - certainly not your ignorant ass. Robin is the only person that I have read here that seems to have demonstrated an empirical knowledge of Unity. How I wish you could keep your ignorant fucking mouth shut on Unity !!! Of course not meant literally because one can never stop idiots like you, it's only meant to somehow shame into some kind of reflection. You seem intelligent enough but are you emotionally, psychologically mature enough to be shamed? FYI - Nabby seems to be more emotionally intelligent than you despite his interests in crop circles, aliens and certainly Barry, the hilarity of Barry to go after Nabby - WTF? On May 13, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. LOL - you such an idiot Grandpa Xeno but you are lovable and you are my lovable, clueless grandpa. Don't nobody else make fun of my Grandpa !!!
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Say you were in a room with Maharishi, and postulate he is in unity. He is there, you are there, the room is there. Same place, same room. How can unity be on only one side of the room, that is, if it is real? If it is not real, then there is no reason to have the experience. You might as well get drunk and quit spiritual seeking. Hold it there Xeno baby - you went from postulating to experiencing in the same paragraph. You postulated Maharishi was in Unity, now everyone's in Unity and having an orgy? Do you blame if someone like me thinks this is an intellectual hard-on? Come on get a clue - you fucking dimwit. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Xenophaneros, are you in Unity ? If not, how do you know Unity is all about truth ? If it is not, why are we meditating? Nabby we are all in unity, you no less than me. Oh please, let Buddhist's in funny hats preoccupy themselves with nonsense on that level. Perhaps the Buddhists talk about it this way because more of them understand what it means to say everyone is enlightened. The TMO birthday ceremony has this in it 'the already enlightened [name]', Maharishi must have been a f**ing Buddhist. Say you were in a room with Maharishi, and postulate he is in unity. He is there, you are there, the room is there. Same place, same room. How can unity be on only one side of the room, that is, if it is real? If it is not real, then there is no reason to have the experience. You might as well get drunk and quit spiritual seeking. As the Buddhists say (actually probably the Taoists who greatly influenced Buddhism as it passed into China), if you do not see the Way, you do not see it even if you are walking on it. You do not need a funny hat either. That is for Maharishi's followers. You do not need to be a Buddhist, but if you are antagonistic to any part of the world, you can blind yourself to certain insights, and blinding can be reciprocal (remember Vaj?).
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Oh Steve - I yearn for more. How is it perfunctory and how is it negative? What was the spin, how was it skewed against Ms. Self-Avowed Shameless Share? What's your expert analysis - a few bullet points would help. Imagine a hockey game and provide us a post-game analysis. You can do this. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: snip Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. Excellent point Share. And yes, it does make you have compassion, or at least some degree of compassion for those who seek to spin whatever someone says, whom they dislike, into some sort of skewed conclusion. A prayer comes to mind that my grandmother used to tell me when I would spend the night at her house as a child, and we would talk about those less fortunate. There, but for the grace of God, go I I've read ahead here to the perfunctory negative replies from Ravi and Judy. They are just ramping up. Getting their barber straps out. Glad you are having a good time in Maryland. Thanks for sharing some of the details.
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Read it again Steve - they are enough qualifiers to keep you interested. Don't forget your record here - show me a single post of yours in the past where you have engaged in some kind of rational, intelligent discussion. I have a lot - don't push your luck. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** I'm glad you asked Ravi. It's all right here. How do you argue, or discuss something with someone who has this attitude? I know. You don't! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343429 Yes - I have a special ability, insight into judging people. Even electronic medium is no barrier. An intuition right from my childhood. It's untainted by any intellectual process - so powerful is my intuition and rarely does it go wrong. If I come after you, you bet your retarded ass it will stick, if not I will bend over backwards to apologize. All the people I have exposed had some deception, the level and intensity varies - and in many cases I wasn't even aware of it. It happens outside of my intellect. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh Steve - I yearn for more. How is it perfunctory and how is it negative? What was the spin, how was it skewed against Ms. Self-Avowed Shameless Share? What's your expert analysis - a few bullet points would help. Imagine a hockey game and provide us a post-game analysis. You can do this. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: snip Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. Excellent point Share. And yes, it does make you have compassion, or at least some degree of compassion for those who seek to spin whatever someone says, whom they dislike, into some sort of skewed conclusion. A prayer comes to mind that my grandmother used to tell me when I would spend the night at her house as a child, and we would talk about those less fortunate. There, but for the grace of God, go I I've read ahead here to the perfunctory negative replies from Ravi and Judy. They are just ramping up. Getting their barber straps out. Glad you are having a good time in Maryland. Thanks for sharing some of the details.
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Read it again Steve - there are enough qualifiers to keep you interested. Don't forget your record here - show me a single post of yours in the recent past where you have engaged in some kind of rational, intelligent discussion. I have a lot - don't push your luck. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** I'm glad you asked Ravi. It's all right here. How do you argue, or discuss something with someone who has this attitude? I know. You don't! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343429 Yes - I have a special ability, insight into judging people. Even electronic medium is no barrier. An intuition right from my childhood. It's untainted by any intellectual process - so powerful is my intuition and rarely does it go wrong. If I come after you, you bet your retarded ass it will stick, if not I will bend over backwards to apologize. All the people I have exposed had some deception, the level and intensity varies - and in many cases I wasn't even aware of it. It happens outside of my intellect. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Oh Steve - I yearn for more. How is it perfunctory and how is it negative? What was the spin, how was it skewed against Ms. Self-Avowed Shameless Share? What's your expert analysis - a few bullet points would help. Imagine a hockey game and provide us a post-game analysis. You can do this. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: snip Last but not least, Fundamentalists of all ilks have themselves been so severely shamed, that they themselves turn to shaming others in an attempt to salvage their damaged sense of well being. IMHO. Excellent point Share. And yes, it does make you have compassion, or at least some degree of compassion for those who seek to spin whatever someone says, whom they dislike, into some sort of skewed conclusion. A prayer comes to mind that my grandmother used to tell me when I would spend the night at her house as a child, and we would talk about those less fortunate. There, but for the grace of God, go I I've read ahead here to the perfunctory negative replies from Ravi and Judy. They are just ramping up. Getting their barber straps out. Glad you are having a good time in Maryland. Thanks for sharing some of the details.
