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Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series
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to do nothing but pretend they are doing something. If you like to go to plays, movies, where actors pretend to be other people doing often remarkable fantastic things that no one would do in real life, and you enjoy paying money for this, you can do the same thing with yagyas and indulgences, pay money to pretend something imaginary is happening that will profoundly affect your life and the world. Except it doesn't really. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially
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On 11/4/2014 1:50 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. /Barry sounds prejudiced against spiritual groups. He seems never to pass up an opportunity to criticize, even using a tragedy like a drought to make his point, blaming some poor Hindu pundit boys for climate change and weather events. One wonders what exactly, was the purpose of meeting up with Rama and 200 others out in the dessert? What good ever came out of watching Rama slowly lift up slowly off of a sofa? Go figure./ The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. /More cognitive dissonance: if you really felt this way, you'd take down your Rama web site.//There seems to be some cognitive dissonance going on with you, or maybe you're just being hypocritical.// // //http://ramalila.org//
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On 11/4/2014 7:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! /How are those Kung Foo squats working out for you - any enlightenment yet? The purpose of Kung Foo is to make use of the pure consciousness of the Qi, a latent force of energy and intelligence that lies within. Cognitive dissonance is the confusion that comes from believing in two contradictory beliefs, both at the same time.//Hypocrisy is the criticism of others beliefs and yet holding the very same beliefs of those you criticize. It's not complicated./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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On 11/4/2014 7:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. /That's an easy one to answer: Suggestibility//. // // //Suggestibility is the quality of being inclined to accept and act on the suggestions of others. For example, you gave Rama over $50,000 in cash over the course of a decade just so you could watch him slowly lift up off of a sofa and fly around a few inches above the floor at a Denny's in downtown L.A. //Some people are very highly prone to suggestion./ Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) /My guess is that all you got for your money was to get to sit in the front row at a Rama lecture, so you could work the smoke and mirrors. Obviously that's not going to work on a discussion group, even without Judy to point out your logical errors. Go figure./ *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment
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On 11/4/2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: /Obviously you're no longer wearing a wedding ring. Next you'll be wanting to take out anyone wearing a yarmulke, a cowboy hat, or girls wearing head scarves or pants.//First, they came for the Jews./.. Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm image http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Preview by Yahoo *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S
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According to scholars, one of the earliest mentions of pūjā is in the Grihya Sutras, which provide rules for domestic rites. These Sutras, dated to be about 500 BC, use the term puja to describe the hospitality to honor priests who were invited to one’s home to lead rituals for departed ancestors. As Hindu philosophy expanded and diversified, with developments such as the bhakti movement, the vedic puja ritual were modified and applied to the deities. As with vedic times, the general concept of puja remained the same, but expanded to welcoming the deity along with the deity's spiritual essence as one's honored guest. The Puranic corpus of literature, dating from about 6th century CE, contain extensive outline on how to perform deity puja (deva pūjā). Deity puja thus melds Vedic rites with devotion to deity in its ritual form. As with many others aspects of Hinduism, both Vedic puja and devotional deity puja continued, the choice left to the Hindu From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Yagyas and Indulgences Yajña: (Sanskrit: 'sacrifice, offering'), in Hinduism, worship based on rites prescribed in the earliest scriptures of ancient India, the Vedas, in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. A yajña is always purposeful, even though the aim may be as general as sustaining the natural order of the universe. Correct performance of the ritual and recitation of the necessary mantras, or sacred formulas, is considered essential; and the performer and the objects employed must all be in a high state of purity. Such ritual requirements gave rise to the professional class of priests, the modern Brahmans, who are still required to officiate at all important public yajñas. ——Encyclopædia Britannica Indugence: a distinctive feature of the penitential system of both the Western medieval and the Roman Catholic church that granted full or partial remission of the punishment of sin. The granting of indulgences was predicated on two beliefs. First, in the sacrament of penance it did not suffice to have the guilt (culpa) of sin forgiven through absolution alone; one also needed to undergo temporal punishment because one had offended Almighty God. Second, indulgences rested on belief in purgatory, a place in the next life where one could continue to cancel the accumulated debt of one's sins, another Western medieval conception not shared by the Eastern Greek church. From the early church onward, bishops could reduce or dispense with the rigours of penances, but indulgences emerged in only the 11th and 12th centuries when the idea of purgatory took widespread hold and when the popes became the activist leaders of the reforming church. In their zeal, they promoted the militant reclamation of once-Christian lands—first of Iberia in the Reconquista, then of the Holy Land in the Crusades—offering 'full remission of sins,' the first indulgences, as inducements to participation. ...To clarify all these issues, the Scholastic theologians of the 12th and 13th centuries worked out a fully articulated theory of penance. It consisted of three parts: contrition, confession, and satisfaction. The debt of forgiven sin could be reduced through the performance of good works in this life (pilgrimages, charitable acts, and the like) or through suffering in purgatory. Indulgences could be granted only by popes or, to a lesser extent, archbishops and bishops as ways of helping ordinary people measure and amortize their remaining debt. 'Plenary,' or full, indulgences cancelled all the existing obligation, while 'partial' indulgences remitted only a portion of it. People naturally wanted to know how much debt was forgiven (just as modern students want to know exactly what they need to study for examinations), so set periods of days, months, and years came gradually to be attached to different kinds of partial indulgences. This highly complicated theological system, which was framed as a means to help people achieve their eternal salvation, easily lent itself to misunderstanding and abuse as early as the 13th century, much sooner than is usually thought. A principal contributing factor was money. Paralleling the rise of indulgences, the Crusades, and the reforming papacy was the economic resurgence of Europe that began in the 11th century. Part of this tremendous upsurge was the phenomenon of commutation, through which any services, obligations, or goods could be converted into a corresponding monetary payment. Those eager to gain plenary indulgences, but unable to go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, wondered whether they might perform an alternative good work
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in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. Puja is non-vedic in origin From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Yagyas and Indulgences Yajña: (Sanskrit: 'sacrifice, offering'), in Hinduism, worship based on rites prescribed in the earliest scriptures of ancient India, the Vedas, in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. A yajña is always purposeful, even though the aim may be as general as sustaining the natural order of the universe. Correct performance of the ritual and recitation of the necessary mantras, or sacred formulas, is considered essential; and the performer and the objects employed must all be in a high state of purity. Such ritual requirements gave rise to the professional class of priests, the modern Brahmans, who are still required to officiate at all important public yajñas. ——Encyclopædia Britannica Indugence: a distinctive feature of the penitential system of both the Western medieval and the Roman Catholic church that granted full or partial remission of the punishment of sin. The granting of indulgences was predicated on two beliefs. First, in the sacrament of penance it did not suffice to have the guilt (culpa) of sin forgiven through absolution alone; one also needed to undergo temporal punishment because one had offended Almighty God. Second, indulgences rested on belief in purgatory, a place in the next life where one could continue to cancel the accumulated debt of one's sins, another Western medieval conception not shared by the Eastern Greek church. From the early church onward, bishops could reduce or dispense with the rigours of penances, but indulgences emerged in only the 11th and 12th centuries when the idea of purgatory took widespread hold and when the popes became the activist leaders of the reforming church. In their zeal, they promoted the militant reclamation of once-Christian lands—first of Iberia in the Reconquista, then of the Holy Land in the Crusades—offering 'full remission of sins,' the first indulgences, as inducements to participation. ...To clarify all these issues, the Scholastic theologians of the 12th and 13th centuries worked out a fully articulated theory of penance. It consisted of three parts: contrition, confession, and satisfaction. The debt of forgiven sin could be reduced through the performance of good works in this life (pilgrimages, charitable acts, and the like) or through suffering in purgatory. Indulgences could be granted only by popes or, to a lesser extent, archbishops and bishops as ways of helping ordinary people measure and amortize their remaining debt. 'Plenary,' or full, indulgences cancelled all the existing obligation, while 'partial' indulgences remitted only a portion of it. People naturally wanted to know how much debt was forgiven (just as modern students want to know exactly what they need to study for examinations), so set periods of days, months, and years came gradually to be attached to different kinds of partial indulgences. This highly complicated theological system, which was framed as a means to help people achieve their eternal salvation, easily lent itself to misunderstanding and abuse as early as the 13th century, much sooner than is usually thought. A principal contributing factor was money. Paralleling the rise of indulgences, the Crusades, and the reforming papacy was the economic resurgence of Europe that began in the 11th century. Part of this tremendous upsurge was the phenomenon of commutation, through which any services, obligations, or goods could be converted into a corresponding monetary payment. Those eager to gain plenary indulgences, but unable to go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, wondered whether they might perform an alternative good work or make an equivalent offering to a charitable enterprise—for example, the building of a leprosarium or a cathedral. Churchmen allowed such commutation, and the popes even encouraged it, especially Innocent III (reigned 1198–1216) in his various Crusading projects.From the 12th century onward the process of salvation was therefore increasingly bound up with money. Reformers of the 14th and 15th centuries frequently complained about the 'sale' of indulgences by pardoners. And as the papacy weakened in this period, secular governments increasingly allowed the granting of indulgences only in return for a substantial share of the yield, often as much as two-thirds. The princes got most of the money, and the popes got most of the blame. ——Encyclopædia Britannica If the laws
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The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
