Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 00:44, C Bobroff wrote: > BTW, concerning the Linux option, how does that compare in size / > resource hogging with Windows? Since a lot of people don't want to do > much more than email and surfing, is there any no-frills option that has > all the speed and efficiency of Win9x AND lets you do Persian? I consider your "Win9x" to mean Win9x plus IE6. The real answer depends on exactly how much one wants to do. Light browsing with Persian is "fine" with Mozilla and its descendants Epiphany, Firebird, Galleon, etc which are available on any recent Linux distribution (although there are many known bugs, like IE), and I've heard that at least KMail supports Persian fine enough for light usage (last time I checked, it had almost the same amount of Persian bugs compared with Outlook Express, but was much more secure). But these will also need configuration. You'll need to install a font (which you won't need to do with Win9x+IE6, you already have Tahoma) and you'll of course need to setup a keyboard layout. The speed and efficiency should be the same, or even better in Linux, but it's been a long time I've been on a Win9x machine. I personally only use Linux (Fedora Core 1, for that matter) for my everyday Persian reading and writing, but I have lots of problems (which me and Behdad are trying our best to fix). For example, my favorite browser can't print Persian, and my favorite email reader displays Persian sentences left-to-right, while each word is displayed correctly. (I have workaround for many of these of course.) roozbeh ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
> No flame fest recently. Actually was more flirting than war ;). I'm just glad Saber didn't get flamed for not reading the archives. (You really got lucky, Saber!) And if you liked Le Monde, just wait till Behd^H^H^H Joe presents the next featured website: it's on the Michael Jackson child molestation case and the Persian text can not actually be viewed on any known OS or browser (however the picures are excellent.) Coming soon! > Well, it's in the archives. Connie happens to contact webmasters > and remind them to fix their Persian YEH and KEHs. Not contact. I'm still at the fact-finding stage and I'm not liking the facts too much. I can really see why there's no incentive to give up the stone-age tools. BTW, concerning the Linux option, how does that compare in size / resource hogging with Windows? Since a lot of people don't want to do much more than email and surfing, is there any no-frills option that has all the speed and efficiency of Win9x AND lets you do Persian? (Of course, MS could also offer such an alternative.) -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Saber S wrote: > Really Fun! > It is 2 days I subscribed the 2 lists, but you're just flaming ;) > Are these just kidding or it is a real war?! No flame fest recently. Actually was more flirting than war ;). > About Israel and Le Monde, what's fun with that article? we Well, it's in the archives. Connie happens to contact webmasters and remind them to fix their Persian YEH and KEHs. So I was just asking him to add Le Monde to his list. > read lots of similar articles in Kayhan, Resalat,etc. and we > hear a lot about that in Mr.Larijani's TV. There is no need to > Le Monde, some wrongheaded Hizbullahi guys get excited when > they read/hear similar ideas with their head from > European/American authors. Hehe. Quite Right. J ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
Really Fun! It is 2 days I subscribed the 2 lists, but you're just flaming ;) Are these just kidding or it is a real war?! About Israel and Le Monde, what's fun with that article? we read lots of similar articles in Kayhan, Resalat,etc. and we hear a lot about that in Mr.Larijani's TV. There is no need to Le Monde, some wrongheaded Hizbullahi guys get excited when they read/hear similar ideas with their head from European/American authors. - Original Message - From: "Behdad Esfahbod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "FarsiWeb Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:32 PM Subject: Le Monde diplomatique this time > Mr Connie Genius, > > > Got some juice for you. Please go for this one: > > http://ir.mondediplo.com/article208.html > > > Mr Joe Dumb > > ___ > FarsiWeb mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
>Well, I hereby ask > you to contact them and resolve Persian issues including but not > limited to those too balls, oops dots. Jr Joe Jenius is a polo player? ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
Dumb Connie, I damn forgot why you are called Genius(TM). Well, I hereby ask you to contact them and resolve Persian issues including but not limited to those too balls, oops dots.And about that Zarnegar issue you mentioned in another mail the other day. Zarnegar is a desktop publishing software. The problem should be that that professor simply uses those ancient hacked windows with no dots under their Arabic YEHs, so can't see that there are people with Arabic YEHs suffering out there... Jr Joe Jenius On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, C Bobroff wrote: > Hey Joe, > What were we supposed to be interested in here? Is it the good news that > you have discovered the world's first Persian webpage with "charset=utf-8" > instead of "charset=windows-1256" (those French are making great > improvements!) > Or did you want to point out those 2 dots we like to discuss? Did you > want to complain they don't seem to know about ZWNJ? Did you think that > since there's mention of Tel Aviv they might have read the magazines on > Persian webdev? > Or is it that you wanted to encourage the silent lurkers to participate > so you thought the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could rouse some healthy > discussion and from there, next stop is how to introduce Persian speakers > in Haifa to get rid of their Win9x and then take the idea to Iran? > Joe, it is truly YOU who should be called "genius". Let's trade names! > > -Connie > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > Mr Connie Genius, > > > > > > Got some juice for you. Please go for this one: > > > > http://ir.mondediplo.com/article208.html > > > > > > Mr Joe Dumb ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Mehran Mehr wrote: > Connie Bobroff is an [Israelian] Jewish? Nope. I'm a pious mullah from Qazvin. Sorry if you somehow understood something political in what was basically a joke aimed at Joe. (We need a little humor sometimes, you know.) Anyhow, thanks for the reminder that others are also on this list discussing Persian problems. Somehow I forgot! Keep up the helpful participation and the Yeh/Keheh problem will be solved soon! -Connie ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
Connie Bobroff is an [Israelian] Jewish? ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Re: Le Monde diplomatique this time
Hey Joe, What were we supposed to be interested in here? Is it the good news that you have discovered the world's first Persian webpage with "charset=utf-8" instead of "charset=windows-1256" (those French are making great improvements!) Or did you want to point out those 2 dots we like to discuss? Did you want to complain they don't seem to know about ZWNJ? Did you think that since there's mention of Tel Aviv they might have read the magazines on Persian webdev? Or is it that you wanted to encourage the silent lurkers to participate so you thought the Israeli-Palestinian conflict could rouse some healthy discussion and from there, next stop is how to introduce Persian speakers in Haifa to get rid of their Win9x and then take the idea to Iran? Joe, it is truly YOU who should be called "genius". Let's trade names! -Connie On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Mr Connie Genius, > > > Got some juice for you. Please go for this one: > > http://ir.mondediplo.com/article208.html > > > Mr Joe Dumb > > ___ > FarsiWeb mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb > ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
Le Monde diplomatique this time
Mr Connie Genius, Got some juice for you. Please go for this one: http://ir.mondediplo.com/article208.html Mr Joe Dumb ___ FarsiWeb mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/farsiweb
