Re: [PersianComputing] Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

> > They *could* be instructed. Google is very bad in linguistics, specially
> > when considering Persian.
>
> Oh? So they ARE supposed to be equal and the problem is with Google and
> not with those tables. I'm greatly relieved!
> Next question:  Why hasn't Google been instructed? How can we give it a
> refresher course in linguistics?

They don't have computational linguistics for any language other
than English AFAIK.  So, I do not recommend trying that.

> > Really, you'd better use both :((
>
> You are cruel!
>
> -Connie

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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-06 Thread C Bobroff
> They *could* be instructed. Google is very bad in linguistics, specially
> when considering Persian.


Oh? So they ARE supposed to be equal and the problem is with Google and
not with those tables. I'm greatly relieved!
Next question:  Why hasn't Google been instructed? How can we give it a
refresher course in linguistics?


> Really, you'd better use both :((

You are cruel!

-Connie
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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 01:37, C Bobroff wrote:
> Actuallyand I'm risking exposing more of my genius tendancies
> hereI wanted to ask what I misunderstood along the line because I was
> under the impression that search engines or any search tool had been
> instructed to consider Arabic and Persian Yeh's to be the same.

They *could* be instructed. Google is very bad in linguistics, specially
when considering Persian.

> Yet it is
> a sad fact that if you do a Google search for a Persian word with final
> yeh, you'd better use the Arabic yeh.

Really, you'd better use both :((

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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

> > Ever considered having a nick name of Joe?  See: "Mr Joe Genius".
> Those Qazvini's really like my name and I've had a lot of fun with it, and
> it has generated much laughter and good-will, therefore it stays.

:)
Good luck then.  "baalaam jaan khob esmi daari" ;).

> > Tell them you are going to put them in your black list if they
> > don't act in 24 hours.  Don't forget to tell them that as a
> > consequence, most major proxies around the world (not in Iran!)
> > would block their site.
>
> Got it. Will do.
>
> > Roozbeh has a nice masterpiece for you musuem, but that's not dot
> > related.  A bidi problem, printed 001 instead of 100.
>
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and
> those who don't.

And whatever radix you use, 10*10=100!  Think about that :>

> > They do NOT do special handling this.
> Well, maybe it's time for a re-think on this.

Take a break every 24 hours.

> -Connie

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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread C Bobroff
> Ever considered having a nick name of Joe?  See: "Mr Joe Genius".
Those Qazvini's really like my name and I've had a lot of fun with it, and
it has generated much laughter and good-will, therefore it stays.

> Tell them you are going to put them in your black list if they
> don't act in 24 hours.  Don't forget to tell them that as a
> consequence, most major proxies around the world (not in Iran!)
> would block their site.

Got it. Will do.

> Roozbeh has a nice masterpiece for you musuem, but that's not dot
> related.  A bidi problem, printed 001 instead of 100.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and
those who don't.

> They do NOT do special handling this.
Well, maybe it's time for a re-think on this.


-Connie
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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

> > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > Hey Mr Connie Genius,
> > The subject line ;).
> > http://www.persian-language.org/
> Hehe. It's not for nothin' I'm called "Mr Connie Genius"!

Ever considered having a nick name of Joe?  See: "Mr Joe Genius".

> Yeah, I knew what was coming as I was treated to those 2 beautiful final
> dots of "farsi" in the  of the page long before the page actually
> loaded!
>
> So what action should be taken here ? Shall I send a nastygram to the
> webmaster written on the official stationery of the Dots Police?

Tell them you are going to put them in your black list if they
don't act in 24 hours.  Don't forget to tell them that as a
consequence, most major proxies around the world (not in Iran!)
would block their site.

> I was even thinking of opening up a Yeh Museum the other day. If I can get
> folks to scan and email me these specimens of announcements/invitations on
> printed paper with the Arabic Yeh's I will create a beautiful photo
> gallery as a tribute to this historic phenomonon! I mean it--send them in.
> It'll be cool!

Roozbeh has a nice masterpiece for you musuem, but that's not dot
related.  A bidi problem, printed 001 instead of 100.

> Actuallyand I'm risking exposing more of my genius tendancies
> hereI wanted to ask what I misunderstood along the line because I was
> under the impression that search engines or any search tool had been
> instructed to consider Arabic and Persian Yeh's to be the same. Yet it is
> a sad fact that if you do a Google search for a Persian word with final
> yeh, you'd better use the Arabic yeh.

They do NOT do special handling this.

> -Connie

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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread C Bobroff
> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Hey Mr Connie Genius,
> The subject line ;).
> http://www.persian-language.org/
Hehe. It's not for nothin' I'm called "Mr Connie Genius"!

Yeah, I knew what was coming as I was treated to those 2 beautiful final
dots of "farsi" in the  of the page long before the page actually
loaded!

So what action should be taken here ? Shall I send a nastygram to the
webmaster written on the official stationery of the Dots Police?

I was even thinking of opening up a Yeh Museum the other day. If I can get
folks to scan and email me these specimens of announcements/invitations on
printed paper with the Arabic Yeh's I will create a beautiful photo
gallery as a tribute to this historic phenomonon! I mean it--send them in.
It'll be cool!

Actuallyand I'm risking exposing more of my genius tendancies
hereI wanted to ask what I misunderstood along the line because I was
under the impression that search engines or any search tool had been
instructed to consider Arabic and Persian Yeh's to be the same. Yet it is
a sad fact that if you do a Google search for a Persian word with final
yeh, you'd better use the Arabic yeh.

-Connie
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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, C Bobroff wrote:

>
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > Was googling around, found the above site by chance.
> Uhh, what site?

Hey Mr Connie Genius,

The subject line ;).
http://www.persian-language.org/

> -Connie

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Re: persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread C Bobroff

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Was googling around, found the above site by chance.
Uhh, what site?

-Connie
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persian-language.org

2003-10-05 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi,

Was googling around, found the above site by chance.  Connie
should be most interested one in that.  Connie: Do you go by
convincing to correct their YEHs?

BTW,  seems that there are still sites that we have not found
yet...

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