Final Board appointment, and IRC meeting reminder 2010-01-07 UTC 1700

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
To fill the final open seat on the Board for the next two releases, I am appointing Colin Walters. Colin has spent several years developing technology and community in the GNOME Project and around the varied landscape of Fedora's desktop. He brings to the Board a constructive, positive spirit to

Outage notification - Fedora mailing list migration - Sat-Sun Jan 9-10, 2010

2010-01-07 Thread Jon Stanley
Outage Notification - 2009-01-09 - 2009-01-10 There will be an outage starting at 2009-01-09, which will last approximately 48 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-01-09 HH:MM UTC' Affected

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:43 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:23 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: There is no case where I want a new window or popup to take focus. Makes for an easy algorithm. (hitting

yum-presto and comps

2010-01-07 Thread Jens Petersen
In F12 we shipped yum-presto in @gnome-desktop - a kind of a compromise I guess. Presto/deltarpm is very useful for machines with low net connectivity to mirrors but enough resources to rebuild rpms. But yum-presto is not a desktop package at all and certainly does not belong in the gnome-desktop

Re: Heads-up: %define vs %global in specs

2010-01-07 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Panu Matilainen wrote: For the impatient: Starting with today's rawhide, the these kind of constructs in specs no longer work: %{?!foo: %define foo bar} For the generally desired effect, the above simply becomes: %{?!foo: %global foo bar} This is already

Re: yum-presto and comps

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 04:44 -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: In F12 we shipped yum-presto in @gnome-desktop - a kind of a compromise I guess. Presto/deltarpm is very useful for machines with low net connectivity to mirrors but enough resources to rebuild rpms. But yum-presto is not a desktop

Re: End of days?

2010-01-07 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Tony Nelson wrote: On 10-01-06 17:54:10, Robert Relyea wrote: On 01/06/2010 01:43 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: [or...@orca fedora/devel]$ ls */dead.package | wc -l 666 We're ok. The original number may have been 616: http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm No,

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Mat Booth
2010/1/7 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: Greetings. I'd like to propose splitting out the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo file into a fedora-release-rawhide subpackage which is NOT installed by default or shipped on the live media. I wrote up this using the Feature template, but I don't

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-05

2010-01-07 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 10:22:58PM +0100, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: I thought the canonical URL for downloads from sourceforge.net has been http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/PROJECT/NAME-VERSION.tar.gz? It should be downloads... not prdownloads... according to the SourceURL

Re: yum-presto and comps

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 04:44 -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: In F12 we shipped yum-presto in @gnome-desktop - a kind of a compromise I guess. Presto/deltarpm is very useful for machines with low net connectivity to mirrors but enough resources to rebuild rpms. But yum-presto is not a desktop

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:47:09PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I'd like to propose splitting out the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo file into a fedora-release-rawhide subpackage which is NOT installed by default or shipped on the live media. I wrote up this using the Feature template,

rawhide report: 20100107 changes

2010-01-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 7 08:15:04 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- R-hdf5-1.6.9-4.fc13.i686 requires hdf5 = 0:1.8.3 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires

Re: rawhide report: 20100107 changes

2010-01-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 02:30:28PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: cduce-0.5.3-3.fc13.i686 requires ocaml(runtime) = 0:3.11.1 Still waiting on upstream. 1:libguestfs-1.0.80-10.fc13.i686 requires gfs-utils Should be fixed tomorrow. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Fulko Hew
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote: ... snip ... The problem is that the automatic focus change only when intended by user will never be done 100% correctly. This is just impossible to do. So the actual better user experience case would be to always require

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 17:38 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: The only problem with that is that just about every packaging guideline has _some_ valid exceptions (that's why they're all guidelines...) and it's rather hard to build exceptions into an automatic testing system in a way which

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Zing
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:58:11 +0100, David Tardon wrote: gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows strict thanks for that... To be useful - when that's set, new windows never take focus away from a window that looks like a terminal window. (This is assuming the

Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jesse Keating
As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? check export patch unused-patches unused-fedora-patches If so, please reply to which one, and in what scenario you use

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread David Cantrell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? check export patch unused-patches

Pulseaudio update issue...

2010-01-07 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, First off, not trying to bash or otherwise start a war about pulseaudio. Just checking if anyone else is experiencing issues with the latest F12 update (0.9.21-2) of pulseaudio? For me changing between tracks in rhythmbox include a sound 'pop' at the same time as the volume

[PATCH] Bodhi No Frozen Rawhide Critical Path support

2010-01-07 Thread Luke Macken
Yesterday I made an initial attempt at adding support for the No Frozen Rawhide[0] and Critical Path Packages[1] policies in bodhi. From a bodhi/releng perspective, here is what the process will look like so far: Releng adds F13 to bodhi as a `locked` release: Release(name='F13',

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/7 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? check export patch unused-patches unused-fedora-patches If so, please

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Dan Horák
Jesse Keating píše v Čt 07. 01. 2010 v 09:28 -0800: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? unused-patches I tried to use this one when putting some

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:28:26AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? check export patch unused-patches

Re: Pulseaudio update issue... [ UPDATE 2 ]

2010-01-07 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
So it seems it is related to thunderbird. I have the preference set to play a sound when new mail arrives. After it has, sounds is messed up... Bug with thunderbird I presume? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: UPDATE Pulseaudio update issue...

2010-01-07 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Ok so totally bizarre, I re-updated via yum... It caused rhythmbox to freeze as the connection to the server died. I killed and restarted it, and the track changes were now sound seamless, as is tab completion in gnome-terminal again... I'm really not sure what the issue was, I've rebooted a

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: unused-patches I use this one, but it's probably something that should just happen as part of a build sanity check, or even better make it harder to cause (the new dist-git setup might do this right?) --

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 07:51 -1000, David Cantrell wrote: I was using 'unused-patches' until the packaging guidelines had us change Patch lines to use %{name} if that applied. The unused-patches target would be helpful if it could expand RPM macros. That's a guideline worth ignoring. If I'm

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Enrico Scholz
Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com writes: I have used make patch quite a bit when developing patches. I guess it's just a wrapper around gendiff though, so it maybe redundant i.e. in my use case I could have been using gendiff. fwiw, 'gendiff' does not retain comments in patches

yum-presto occasionally goes into eternal loop looking for deltas

2010-01-07 Thread Pekka Pietikainen
Presto is one of the best things ever, but occasionally it ends up not finding the delta files from any of the mirrors in the mirror list and just loops through them without making any progress. --disablepresto works a-ok, I think yum clean all; yum update also did the trick once. Still, this

Re: yum-presto occasionally goes into eternal loop looking for deltas

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 20:44 +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: Presto is one of the best things ever, but occasionally it ends up not finding the delta files from any of the mirrors in the mirror list and just loops through them without making any progress. --disablepresto works a-ok, I think

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 19:47 +0100, Enrico Scholz wrote: Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com writes: I have used make patch quite a bit when developing patches. I guess it's just a wrapper around gendiff though, so it maybe redundant i.e. in my use case I could have been using

Re: [PATCH] Bodhi No Frozen Rawhide Critical Path support

2010-01-07 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 12:44 -0500, Luke Macken wrote: Yesterday I made an initial attempt at adding support for the No Frozen Rawhide[0] and Critical Path Packages[1] policies in bodhi. From a bodhi/releng perspective, here is what the process will look like so far: Releng adds F13

Re: [PATCH] Bodhi No Frozen Rawhide Critical Path support

2010-01-07 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 14:34 -0500, James Laska wrote: Just to properly set expectations, I'd like to point out that while I agree that critical path package updates should meet a higher degree of quality, we've not yet collectively determined what testing updates means. QA is working on the

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:28:59 + Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: You must do a lot more Fedora user support than I do; is it really a frequent occurrence that users unwittingly enable Rawhide and screw up their systems? Not a criticism, I'm just surprised it happens at all. Yeah, I

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: You propose that the repo should be enabled by default if the package is installed. I don't like this. This make it a lot easier to break a system with Rawhide, if one installs the repo file, e.g. only to be able to

Moin orphaned in EL-4 and EL-5

2010-01-07 Thread Ville-Pekka Vainio
Hi, I've orphaned the moin package in the EL-4 and EL-5 branches. I will keep maintaining the package in Fedora = 11. I'll quote an earlier mail I sent to the EPEL list: I took ownership of the moin package in Fedora and EPEL for about six months ago. I haven't gotten around to doing almost

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 20:47 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I wrote up this using the Feature template, but I don't guess it's really that much of a feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RawhideRepoSubpackage (except in that it needs coordination across the distro and docs updates,

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
DC == David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com writes: DC I was using 'unused-patches' until the packaging guidelines had us DC change Patch lines to use %{name} if that applied. Please quote chapter and verse there. I don't recall any guidelines requiring such a thing. - J -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-07 Thread Zing
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:02:24 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: You propose that the repo should be enabled by default if the package is installed. I don't like this. This make it a lot easier to break a system with Rawhide,

Re: yum-presto occasionally goes into eternal loop looking for deltas

2010-01-07 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 21:19 +0200, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 20:44 +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: Presto is one of the best things ever, but occasionally it ends up not finding the delta files from any of the mirrors in the mirror list and just loops through them without

Re: Pulseaudio update issue... [ UPDATE 2 ]

2010-01-07 Thread Wes Hardaker
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:03:00 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca said: NDN So it seems it is related to thunderbird. I have the preference set to NDN play a sound when new mail arrives. After it has, sounds is messed NDN up... Bug with thunderbird I presume? I don't think so. I

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:29:55AM +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:43 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:23 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: There is no case where I want a new window

Plan for tomorrow's (20100108) FESCo meeting

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Welcome New members - Adam Jackson, Christoph Wickert, Peter Jones and Matthew Garrett Farewells to departing members - Jon Stanley, Dan Horák,

Re: Recommendations on how to handle this package and its libraries

2010-01-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:58:08AM -0600, Adam Miller wrote: I'm currently packaging lessfs and there are apparently a couple libraries that are a part of it that have become a cause for concern by the reviewer (rightfully so) and I'm hoping someone could offer a recommendation of how to go

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:24:17PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: They do happen to have the same WM_CLASS and WM_CLIENT_LEADER window properties. But that still only addresses automatic focus changes within a single application. Automatic focus changes across apps is probably desirable;

Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.

2010-01-07 Thread David Tardon
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:17:45PM +, Zing wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:58:11 +0100, David Tardon wrote: gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/focus_new_windows strict thanks for that... To be useful - when that's set, new windows never take focus away from a

Re: [PATCH] Bodhi No Frozen Rawhide Critical Path support

2010-01-07 Thread Luke Macken
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:44:38PM -0500, Luke Macken wrote: Attached is the initial bodhi patch. I have since fixed a bug with the patch[0], wrote more test cases, and merged it into git. Now to deploy it... luke [0]:

Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: As I proceed to port our make system over into fedpkg, I've ran across a couple targets that are giving me pause. Is anybody out there making use of the following targets? unused-patches I use this fairly often, typically to clean up leftovers after

Questions about packaging CYKLOP font

2010-01-07 Thread TK009
hail troopers and trooperettes, I want to package the CYKLOP font and need to clear up the caveats. I am not sure what is required for caveat #2: This licensing would not require building from source, though it would be nice to get the sources published and use them to build the Fedora OTFs.

Re: Goals for F13?

2010-01-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jon Stanley wrote: Well they haven't been interested for quite some time, I think they've finally come to realize that gitweb as is is crap. But John made an interesting point to me at FUDCon that might be disincentive for upstream to accept this: there are probably 20 people in the world

yslow website stats

2010-01-07 Thread Bert Desmet
Hi mmcgrath asked me to collect some statistics about the fedora website. He asked me to use yahoo's yslow. You can find the results here: http://bdesmet.be/upload/finished.pdf yahoo's page with extra information on every test: http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html cheers, Bert

introduction

2010-01-07 Thread Bert Desmet
Hi, My name is Bert Desmet, and I would like to help somewhat in the infrastructure team. I know the Fedora project already a bit as I am an ambassador for about a year now. You can find some useful info about me here: fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:Biertie So, I am a student, and I am eager to

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] amap license

2010-01-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/06/2010 08:10 PM, Michal Ambroz wrote: Hello dear list members, I would like to ask whether the amap license and amap program itself would be eligible to be included in the Fedora. Tool is opensource with license based on GPLv2 with additional restrictions, but I am not sure whether

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] amap license

2010-01-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/07/2010 01:40 PM, Julius Davies wrote: Hi, Tom, Limiting ourselves to copyright (ignoring patents and trademarks and other IP), in general would you say a copyright license must either? 1. Be Free according to FSF: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html or 2. Be Open

Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-07 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/06/2010 08:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Thanks for your response. I guess iPlayer is exactly what I'm looking for, but unfortunately it is restricted to UK residents. I did wonder if I could use my son, in Cardiff, to re-send the stream over to me in Dublin (or Italy)? Could I do

Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Mahabir
2010/1/6 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: Bryn M. Reeves wrote: I did wonder if I could use my son, in Cardiff, to re-send the stream over to me in Dublin (or Italy)? Could I do that without using up all his bandwidth? It would be nice if there was a way to start with a UK IP address, and

Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver

2010-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:31 +1030, Tim wrote: Mikkel: System -- Preferences -- Network Connections Pick the type of interface, and then the specific interface. Highlight it and click on edit. Under the IPv4 Settings, change the Method drop-down to Automatic (DHCP) address only. If

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 12:11 +0530, Jatin K wrote: On 01/07/2010 12:01 PM, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote: Quoth Patrick O'Callaghan on Sweetmorn, the 54th of The

Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-07 Thread Alan Cox
Also, with the right hardware, failed drives can be swapped without shutting the server down. AFAIK it can only be done with SCSI drives, but with SATA hardware being supported by the scsi subsystem, it'll probably work with SATA drives too. SATA supports hot swapping of disks if you have

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:31 -0800, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote: Quoth Patrick O'Callaghan on Sweetmorn, the 54th of The Aftermath: Alternatively, you could jailbreak the

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Jatin K
On 01/07/2010 03:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 12:11 +0530, Jatin K wrote: On 01/07/2010 12:01 PM, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote:

Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line. Also it seems to take far too long to update the status of RPMs installed and available. Hopefully this will be fixed shortly and I can again feel

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:42 + n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line. Also it seems to take far too long to update the status of RPMs installed and

ati drivers f12

2010-01-07 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I have Dell laptop with ati radeon X1200 Series. With f8, there was an flgrx driver which seems to no mere exists with f12? Am I right, or did I miss something? Thanks for answering. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Gustav Degreef
On 01/07/2010 03:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:31 -0800, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote: Quoth Patrick O'Callaghan on Sweetmorn, the 54th

Re: need howto for SELinux config--ssh on non-standard port

2010-01-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 01/06/2010 09:29 PM, John Poelstra wrote: I'm running sshd on a high (1024) port number and cannot find a clear step by step guide for configuring this correctly on Fedora 12 on google I've come across lots of random bugs and forum questions, but nothing that starts at the beginning of

Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:31 +1030, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 17:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: The best approach is usually to identify your own change, make the same change in the .rpmnew file, then mv the .rpmnew file into place. What about SELinux issues when you mv instead of

How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread steve
I am building a new FC12 system intended for MythTV which needs the acceleration provided by the drivers for my nvidia video card. After following the advice here http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=232 I think I have them installed properly, but I only say that because X works after the

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:28 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:31 -0800, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote: Quoth Patrick O'Callaghan on Sweetmorn, the 54th

Re: ati drivers f12

2010-01-07 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
Fedora has never included fglrx (a.k.a. Catalyst), but it has usually been available in 3rd party repositories, like RPM Fusion non-free. AFAIK recent fglrx/Catalyst versions do not support any of the X1200 cards anymore. Fedora 12's default driver should have hw opengl support and other goodies

Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:28 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:31 +1030, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 17:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: The best approach is usually to identify your own change, make the same change in the .rpmnew file, then mv the .rpmnew file

Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:31:38PM +1030, Tim wrote: Tim: There's supposed to be some function (or was in earlier Fedora releases) that'd periodically update your user directories. Though I don't know how, and how often, it actually did its trick. I've never seen it do its trick.

abrt daemon failed to start

2010-01-07 Thread kauyumari
I have fedora 12 32 bits installed on a Macbook pro (intel core duo) I did yum update this morning, I have restarted the system and got the following message: Starting abrt daemon: abrtd: Failed to start: got sig 2 FAILED I have browsed in the web but I cannot find useful information. Then I

Re: F12 all media players have no video but sound only

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 09:58:33PM -0800, barry yu wrote: MP3 players are working, Flash player plays web radio, but none of these medial players can play avi or dvd video, but audio of video movies are working; MPlayer, Xine, VLC I can assure you this works properly with totem, which

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 07:03:07AM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:44:42 + n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: Recently I've found Yumex to be unreliable, getting stuck when trying to do updates. Yet the updates can be made using yum from the command line. Also it seems to

Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread Jan Litwiński
G'day steve, * steve networ...@cox.net [100107 15:56] wrote: I am building a new FC12 system intended for MythTV which needs the acceleration provided by the drivers for my nvidia video card. After following the advice here http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=232 I think I have them

Re: Webstart

2010-01-07 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:22:13 -0500 Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: netx: Unexpected net.sourceforge.jnlp.ParseException: Invalid XML document syntax. at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Parser.getRootNode(Parser.java:1200)  

entropy

2010-01-07 Thread Luca
Hi all, if I simply write to /dev/random, will that increase the entropy of my system? (I'm assuming that the data I'm writing are random and that somehow I got them). Thanks, Luca -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jan Litwiński on 01/07/2010 09:08 AM wrote: glxgears ? No. No. No. No. At the very least, use glxinfo to see if Direct Rendering is reporting yes and your OpenGL render string reports nVidia instead of Mesa. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:16:11PM +, Alan Cox wrote: the guts of package management. However, PackageKit is neither unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it most of the time in Fedora. Yum also has bits that allow it to communicate with PackageKit when run

reading/logging system console messages {/dev/console)

2010-01-07 Thread Chad Kellerman
Fedora Users, Maybe someone has run into this problem in the past. Has anyone ever logged messages that go to /dev/console to a file? I thought I could see messages by tail -f /dev/console, but if echo Is this thing on? /dev/console in another terminal, I don't see the message. if I

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Alan Cox
the guts of package management. However, PackageKit is neither unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it most of the time in Fedora. Yum also has bits that allow it to communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line. This system works quite well. This one

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/07/2010 04:08 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: The yum command line tool is great for anyone who wants to see more of the guts of package management. However, PackageKit is neither unreliable nor barely communicating in my experience, and I use it most of the time in Fedora. Well, ... * ...

Re: entropy

2010-01-07 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Luca wrote: Hi all, if I simply write to /dev/random, will that increase the entropy of my system? (I'm assuming that the data I'm writing are random and that somehow I got them). Wikipedia says so. My tests say no. In particular this brutal approach does not increase the entropy cat

kpackagekit not working

2010-01-07 Thread LPM
I upgraded two systems from F10 to F12 via DVD. Generally, everything is working well. I do have on remaining problem that I have not been able to resolve. Previously in F10, I used the default gnome-packagekit to inform me of new updates. I almost always use yum at the command line to manage

Re: mac usb drive problem with F11

2010-01-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/06/2010 08:48 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/7 Dave Stevensg...@uniserve.com: I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions?

where does Fedora 12 store network / samba shares info

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi all; I was awful close to running out of space on my HD's in my laptop so I bought 2 500GB drives and installed Fedora 12 on them. I've grabbed most of what I needed from the old drives in several cases I had to pull out my new drives, install the old drives, boot into my old install

Re: ati drivers f12

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/07/2010 07:30 AM, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I have Dell laptop with ati radeon X1200 Series. With f8, there was an flgrx driver which seems to no mere exists with f12? Am I right, or did I miss something? fglrx has been renamed catalyst, and support was dropped for a large

Cairo-Dock ??

2010-01-07 Thread Jim
FC12/Kde How do you make the Height of Cairo-Dock Smaller ? I have been all over the configure settings and can't find how to make Height smaller (top to bottom) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: ati drivers f12

2010-01-07 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 07/01/2010 15:17, Joonas Sarajärvi a écrit : Fedora has never included fglrx (a.k.a. Catalyst), but it has usually been available in 3rd party repositories, like RPM Fusion non-free. AFAIK recent fglrx/Catalyst versions do not support any of

Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-07 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it might be a good idea to do just the opposite: remove everything and reinstall, I reinstalled gnash. It works fine at youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an advantage over using the

Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:08 +0100, Jan Litwiński wrote: G'day steve, * steve networ...@cox.net [100107 15:56] wrote: I am building a new FC12 system intended for MythTV which needs the acceleration provided by the drivers for my nvidia video card. After following the advice here

Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-07 Thread David Burns
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:57 PM, john wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote: Personally, I just download the few shows that I want to watch. They're all on the net. Whoops, I just confessed to a crime on a public forum. Most are now available in some legal form, pretend that's what you meant. --

Re: Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade

2010-01-07 Thread John Nissley
in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log is: Fatal Server Error: xp86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call Any suggestions? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4751 (20100107) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http

Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread steve
Per Michael's advice, I ran glxinfo. Result: Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0 (printed 5x) Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0 (printed like 50x) Segmentation fault (core dumped) I guess that means I don't have the

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-07 Thread Robin Laing
On 12/31/2009 01:49 AM, Garrick Sitongia wrote: I just installed Fedora for the first time on my Windows/Linux dual boot system. The Fedora installer gave me the option of installing over the present linux installation on the disk, an old Mandriva version. I assumed this meant the operating

Re: entropy

2010-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 18:40 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Luca wrote: Hi all, if I simply write to /dev/random, will that increase the entropy of my system? (I'm assuming that the data I'm writing are random and that somehow I got them). Wikipedia says so. But random(4) does not. Is

Re: entropy

2010-01-07 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-07 12:40:02, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Luca wrote: Hi all, if I simply write to /dev/random, will that increase the entropy of my system? (I'm assuming that the data I'm writing are random and that somehow I got them). Wikipedia says so. My tests say no. In particular

Re: Cairo-Dock ??

2010-01-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 07 January 2010 18:34:50 Jim wrote: FC12/Kde How do you make the Height of Cairo-Dock Smaller ? I have been all over the configure settings and can't find how to make Height smaller (top to bottom) The height is determined by the icon sizes. Main configuration window -

Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.

2010-01-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 18:35 +0530, Gustav Degreef wrote: On 01/07/2010 03:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:31 -0800, Philip A. Prindeville wrote: On 12/13/2009 02:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg

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