Re: mailing list losing mail?
j.halifax . wrote: May be something is really missing. I sent an e-mail about not activating LAN Cards after reboots, but only one response has come. I guess that it is not so complicated issue that none could help?! No. The fact that people pick and choose what issues to respond to is no indication that maybe some mails are going missing. FWIW, I've never had a email from this list go missingunless I screwed up my filters. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
It was not possible to scan this message completely. You should not assume that it is free of viruses. Joachim Backes wrote: When opening the following website: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband, you will find on this page a small video pointing to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file. But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed. Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome. I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine Ed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
Joachim Backes wrote: On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: When opening the following website: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband, you will find on this page a small video pointing to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file. But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed. Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome. I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine Ed Hi Ed, having problems to play this file with mplayer: mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg. Seek failed Strange When I used the link to save the file the file name was Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine Do you get... [egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [solved] Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
Joachim, I downloaded the wrong file (link to video and not the video itself). Please apologize for inconvenience. No problem I enjoyed the video signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with latest F12 updates
Joachim Backes wrote: Anybody has the same (or similar) problem with latest F12 updates (Package deb vs. perl-5.8.6)? Total size: 42 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: perl = 5.8.6 is needed by (installed) deb-1.10.27-3.i586 Complete! (1, [u'Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report']) -- Installed perl on my box: perl-5.10.0-82.fc12.i686 What is deb? I could not find that in any of the fedora repositories that I've enabled. -- A snake lurks in the grass. -- Publius Vergilius Maro (Virgil) Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with latest F12 updates
g wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: What is deb? I could not find that in any of the fedora repositories that I've enabled. http://yum.baseurl.org/search?q=deb-1.10.27-3.wiki=onchangeset=onticket=on Too bad that doesn't answer my question -- Q: How did you get into artificial intelligence? A: Seemed logical -- I didn't have any real intelligence. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up Tigervnc [FAILED] ?!?
William Case wrote: Hi; I think I have yummed every thing I need. What is the following warning telling me? ]# service vncserver start Starting VNC server: no displays configured [FAILED] And how do I fix it? I have checked the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file. I don't see anything about a display. I assume something is looking for an X display:0 It would be useful for you to tell people what you have in your vncservers file. The format, as shown in the file, is X:username, where X is a number and indicates a screen -- And what will you do when you grow up to be as big as me? asked the father of his little son. Diet. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up Tigervnc [FAILED] ?!?
William Case wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 06:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: William Case wrote: Hi; I think I have yummed every thing I need. What is the following warning telling me? ]# service vncserver start Starting VNC server: no displays configured [FAILED] And how do I fix it? I have checked the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file. I don't see anything about a display. I assume something is looking for an X display:0 It would be useful for you to tell people what you have in your vncservers file. Sorry Ed. I have tried and removed so many different combinations that I am now double thinking a simple instruction. My latest attempt: /etc/sysconfig/vncservers VNCSERVERS=1:bill VNCSERVERARGS[1]=-geometry 800x600 -nolisten tcp -localhost First of all Why not try something simple by dumping the VNCSERVERARGS line since it may confuse things since nolisten tcp prevents X connections to your VNC server via TCP and -localhost will prevent remote VNC clients connecting except when doing so through a secure tunnel. ]# service vncserver restart Shutting down VNC server: [ OK ] Starting VNC server: 1:bill[FAILED] ( I have tried 0 and 2, 0 gives me ]# service vncserver start Starting VNC server: 0:root A VNC server is already running as :0 [FAILED] ]# vncviewer (I get a screen asking for VNC server but no answer satisfies. Tried name/address (192.168.1.7) of other machine and get -- main:unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)) Don't forget that the format of vncviewer is vncviewer [options] [host][:display#] So, if you started vncserver using VNCSERVERS=1:bill and you start vncviewer on the same machine with no parameters you'd use localhost:1 Remember that if you are connecting from a remote host you'll need to change your firewall settings assuming you are running a firewall. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up Tigervnc [FAILED] ?!?
William Case wrote: First of all Why not try something simple by dumping the VNCSERVERARGS line since it may confuse things since nolisten tcp prevents X connections to your VNC server via TCP and -localhost will prevent remote VNC clients connecting except when doing so through a secure tunnel. I have commented out VNCSERVERARGS line. It may make things simpler, but just about every site I consulted today plus the man pages suggested I needed it. That's my defence, and I'm sticking to it -- your right about making things simpler at the start but no one tells one that it isn't absolutely needed. Those arguments aren't absolutely nor needed. Depends on your environment and the need for added security. In my case vnc is only used on the LAN and not exposed to the internet. So, no need to force users to go through a secure tunnel. [FAILED] ]# vncviewer (I get a screen asking for VNC server but no answer satisfies. Tried name/address (192.168.1.7) of other machine and get -- main:unable connect to socket: No route to host (113)) Don't forget that the format of vncviewer is vncviewer [options] [host][:display#] ]# vncviewer localhost:0 -- gave me a screen on display 0 -- once, then no more. From there I tried various combinations of localhost, address, and bill, and :0 :1. hostname is CASE so I tried that too. bill is user name and host alias, nada. Not surprising. Because my vncserver wasn't running. You don't want to use screen 0 in a single monitor environment since that screen is already claimed by Xorg. So, if you started vncserver using VNCSERVERS=1:bill and you start vncviewer on the same machine with no parameters you'd use localhost:1 ]$ service vncserver status Xvnc is stopped root]# service vncserver start Starting VNC server: 1:bill[FAILED] user]$ service vncserver start Starting VNC server: 1:bill runuser: cannot set groups: Operation not permitted [FAILED] That last one failed since you tried starting the service as a regular user. I even restarted just to clear out the cobwebs. Remember that if you are connecting from a remote host you'll need to change your firewall settings assuming you are running a firewall. Firewall has been changed. I can have another go at it, but the error seems to be at my vncserver level first. Probably SELinux. My frustration level is getting too high for now. A good drink and a sleep and I'll try again in the morning. But I now know what is most likely causing your problem Your user bill probably doesn't have a ~/.vnc directory with the requisite files, passwd and xstartup. So, before you can start up a service for this user you'll need to start the server as the user and complete the prompts for password So 1. Login as bill 2. Enter vncserver 3. Follow the prompts 4. Stop the server with vncserver -kill :X where X= the number presented to you in the line similar to this... New 'f12.greshko.com:1 (gnomer)' desktop is f12.greshko.com:1 (My X would be 1) 5. Now you can go ahead and configure the vncserver service. Sorry to be slow to remember this I always run vncserver from the command line and hardly ever use the service. But, when I do...I've already run vncserver directly under the user's account. And, that is my defense... :-) :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
Martin Airs wrote: On 01/08/2010 05:11 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright Your lucky, I've never received my own posts to the list, even tho I have selected it in the settings That, I believe, is a known issue with using a gmail account for lists I think you can search the archives and find the solution for it... -- I selected E5 ... but I didn't hear Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
j.halifax . wrote: Hi All, Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP FW GW to ADSL Internet. I have: - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 configured with DSN' of ISP - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' of ISP - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf - named is running - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port) - iptables running - FW has dns ports (53) open - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as well (via eth2). From another box in the LAN: ping 10.255.250.37 responds normal way host isp.com 10.255.250.37 doesn't respond (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent) My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins? Thank you so much for your appreciated help! I suppose it would be a good idea to check your dnsmasq.conf file to make sure the proper interfaces are set. Also, maybe show your resolv.conf. Since you said you have iptables enabled, you should make sure that port 53 is actually open. You can do this by going to another system on the 10. network and typing telnet 10.255.250.37 53. FWIW, when asking network questions it isn't a good idea to obfuscated your IP address. Probably xxx.39.189.92 is 195.39.189.92 the headers in your email indicate you are sending from Kwait. -- Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
Didar Hossain wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax . j.hali...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi All, Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP FW GW to ADSL Internet. I have: - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 configured with DSN' of ISP - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' of ISP - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf - named is running - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port) - iptables running - FW has dns ports (53) open - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as well (via eth2). From another box in the LAN: ping 10.255.250.37 responds normal way host isp.com 10.255.250.37 doesn't respond (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent) My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins? Maybe you need to - echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Not needed for dns resolution to work. (tested). I will, however, be needed if this system is to be used as the gateway for the 10. network to the internet. and iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92 Also not needed for dns resolution to workbut the same is as noted above. Ed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
Didar Hossain wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Didar Hossain didar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax . j.hali...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi All, Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP FW GW to ADSL Internet. I have: - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 configured with DSN' of ISP - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' of ISP - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf - named is running - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port) - iptables running - FW has dns ports (53) open - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as well (via eth2). From another box in the LAN: ping 10.255.250.37 responds normal way host isp.com 10.255.250.37 doesn't respond (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent) My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins? Maybe you need to - echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92 Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people do it sometimes. It is perfectly correct to an A-Class network into C-Class subnets. I would say it is done more often than not. -- Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches. -- The Best of Will Rogers Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet
Ed Greshko wrote: Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people do it sometimes. It is perfectly correct to an A-Class network into C-Class subnets. I ^divide would say it is done more often than not. -- Satan did it Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: login session timeout on F12
peter_u wrote: I recently installed a F12 as a home workstation and httpd server on a quad AMD system. I want to use it as a workstation for my daily work. I got most problems ironed out including playing media files and finding SElinux paramters to get ftp and httpd going. One thing still bothers me a lot. When I don't touch my keyboard or mouse for 5 minutes the screen goes to sleep and I need to enter my password again to get back into my session. All my research did not bring any progress. I could not find the parameter controlling the 5 minutes default. Any help would be highly appreciated. Is it OK if I just give you a hint? screensaver -- Most people prefer certainty to truth. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TV over the internet
Timothy Murphy wrote: I've read lots of online postings about people who are apparently watching TV on their computers, but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do. I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer. Kind of a broad question such that there are multiple answers Are you simply talking about watching ones local TV stations or cable content on their system. i.e. The system has a TV Tuner card connected to either ant or cable? Are you talking about something a bit more complex where they still have the one system with the TV tuner card, but they are using something like vlc and streaming the content either to their local lan or the internet? Are you talking about people connecting with the likes of hulu.com or www.justin.tv ? Or maybe evening something like Slingbox...use to...but no longer will work wine. -- QOTD: I won't say he's untruthful, but his wife has to call the dog for dinner. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: TV over the internet
Timothy Murphy wrote: I looked at these (well, hulu.com seems restricted to the US), but they both seem to be offering videos on line, rather than TV. Well, TV is certainly going to be regional. So, when you ask about watching TV you'll also have to include where you are and what you're interested in watching. AFAIK, no TV station in the US is broadcasting Live over the internet. If they were, they'd most probably be streaming flash and using their own embedded flash player in a browser hoping that you can't/won't be able to record it. Of course there are many content providers that stream content. Some live, some a day late. Comedy Central - A cable network owned by Viacom, streams the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report the day after broadcast. C-Span broadcasts Live TV and radio as well as recorded shows with your choice of viewing options (Flash, Windows Media, RealPlayer). As previously mentioned, there is justintv with plenty of sports events (pirated) going out live. hulu is US based and works within the lawas well as numerous TV networks that do similar things like Comedy Central. For a time, sites like hulu could be accessed outside of the US by using open proxies located inside the US...but these sites have gotten much better at detecting this. You can also visit http://channelsurfing.net/ to see what is available at any given time. Or maybe evening something like Slingbox...use to...but no longer will work wine. I have actually tried Slingbox, but not with great success. I've got a Slingbox being hosted in Wisconsin in the US, with a Time Warner Cable subscription. I'm at home in Taiwan watching, at the moment, Jeopardy. But, as I mentioned, need to us a true Windows systembut it could be a VM. Everything, except for Sling, is 0 cost. -- How many priests are needed for a Boston Mass? Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 15:04 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I've not spent any time trying to get a pure nfs4 environment. IMHO, it doesn't buy anything. Getting away from usernames and numerical user IDs having to all be the same on each computer? I think you are missing my point Using only nfsv4 mounts to achieve that is certainly is an advancement. However, the act of disabling the other nfs versions doesn't prevent using nfsv4 and as far as I can tell it offers no gain. I am, of course, assuming that anyone administering nfs would take security in mind and wouldn't be exporting file systems willy-nilly. -- Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects. -- Herodotus Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
Marcel Rieux wrote: This message was issued while updating shadow-utils today. The weird thing is: ls -l /etc/login.defs.rpmnew -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew I did a research both on the fedoraproject and redhat sites and there's nothing about what to do with this warning. Can somebody explain? These files (.rpmnew) are created when the default settings/information change. They are also created to prevent over-writing configuration files that may have been changed by the administrator of the system. If you did a diff on those files you'd find out that the lines: # Use MD5 or DES to encrypt password? Red Hat use MD5 by default. MD5_CRYPT_ENAB no were removed. If you had made changes to the original login.defs file you can make the changes to login.defs.rpmnew and replace the original login.defs with it. If you didn't make any changes you can simply replace the login.defs with login.defs.rpmnew. FWIW, typing howto handle rpmnew files as a google search would have found several articles to read -- His mind is like a steel trap: full of mice. -- Foghorn Leghorn Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how does one consult /etc/nfsmount.conf when NFS mounting?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: undoubtedly a few more NFS-related questions, and here's one. i notice that the nfs-utils package supplies the conf file /etc/nfsmount.conf. so what exactly consults that file? the man page for that file refers to nfs(5) and mount(8), but the man page for mount makes no mention of that file, while the man page for nfs reads: MOUNT CONFIGURATION FILE If the mount command is configured to do so, all of the mount options described in the previous section can also be configured in the /etc/nfsmount.conf file. See nfsmount.conf(5) for details. if it's configured to do so? and how does one do that, since the mount command doesn't seem to refer to that file. so how are these things hooked together? I'll hazard a guess and say that if you issue a mount command with -t nfs then this file will be consulted. -- I want a WESSON OIL lease!! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how does one consult /etc/nfsmount.conf when NFS mounting?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: undoubtedly a few more NFS-related questions, and here's one. i notice that the nfs-utils package supplies the conf file /etc/nfsmount.conf. so what exactly consults that file? the man page for that file refers to nfs(5) and mount(8), but the man page for mount makes no mention of that file, while the man page for nfs reads: MOUNT CONFIGURATION FILE If the mount command is configured to do so, all of the mount options described in the previous section can also be configured in the /etc/nfsmount.conf file. See nfsmount.conf(5) for details. if it's configured to do so? and how does one do that, since the mount command doesn't seem to refer to that file. so how are these things hooked together? I'll hazard a guess and say that if you issue a mount command with -t nfs then this file will be consulted. i'd hazard the same guess, but it would be nice if one was not reduced to guessing with stuff like this. Then I'd make changes to the file, run some tests, and verify my guess :-) -- So, do you...like...stuff? --Ralph Wiggum I Love Lisa (Episode 9F13) Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more without the xorg.conf? BTW, this is on an HP nc2400 that has a 12 display, but I have always run it at 1024x768. When you run system-config-display what shows as Hardware---Monitor Type. I had, what I believe, was a similar problem. Setting it to Generic LCD Display---LCD Panel (with native resolution of my notebook) fix my issue. -- QOTD: I haven't come far enough, and don't call me baby. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. I've had a bit of extra time and did install an openSUSE vm. While the underlying structure is the same, e.g. both systems have /etc/idmapd.com, /etc/sysconfig/nfs. But, it doesn't appear that suse uses nfsmount.conf. openSUSE separates the startup services into client (/etc/init.d/nfs) and server (/etd/init.d/nfsserver). openSUSE seems to have GUI tools that are a bit better. The tools for nfs client and nfs server are separate and seem better integrated with their firewall tool. All that said, I've been able to mount a directory using nfs4 on the suse system that was exported from a f12 system. So, far I've not found the right incantation to do the reverse. I should say thanks for bringing this sort of thing up. Nice diversion to normal things and a new procrastination excuse. :-) Ed FWIW, I've not spent any time trying to get a pure nfs4 environment. IMHO, it doesn't buy anything. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
Ed Greshko wrote: All that said, I've been able to mount a directory using nfs4 on the suse system that was exported from a f12 system. So, far I've not found the right incantation to do the reverse. I had a feeling that sending that email would result in me finding the answer. FWIW, the answer was in the nfs documentation on suse. Now, to find out what/where/if there are settings to make F12 and openSUSE to behave in identical fashion. I've not decided whose behavior I like, best? -- Extreme feminine beauty is always disturbing. -- Spock, The Cloud Minders, stardate 5818.4 Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how can I capture my desktop (video)??
Adel ESSAFI wrote: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/index.php Hi list, I want to make capture for my desktop. xvidcap is a good tool but it is not suitable for capturing all the screen. Have you any idea about the tool that was used to capture the video in the link above? recordmydesktop is in Fedora extras Why not give that a try. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any fundamental difference between fedora and suse NFSv4?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm currently reviewing a doc on suse linux enterprise 11, the section on NFS, but i don't have a SLES 11 machine in front of me. could anyone who uses both SLES 11 and fedora 12 comment on how indistinguishable the NFS setups are across those two distros? so far, i haven't seen a lot that's massively incompatible, and i wouldn't expect to. obviously, the fundamental files are going to be the same. I haven't use suse in quite some time. Are you asking about SLES (which is the equivalent of RHEL) or openSUSE which is more akin to Fedora, AFAIK? In any event, if I were doing what I think you're doing I would download either the openSUSE DVD or the openSUSE live CD's and try it myself in a Virtual Machine. I mean, who better to know what exact comparisons I'm looking for? As I said, I've not used suse in quite a while. But, your question as well as the post about firefox/kde integration has prompted me to start downloading the DVD to give it a try. I think it is safe to say that Fedora/RH place less emphasis on KDE than suse does. So, being a KDE leaning person it would be worth the time to check it out. Of course, just like trying any other distro there will be differences. I believe suse uses yast as their package manger. But, at least it is rpm based and I'm used to the warts of that system. Should I get the chance to experiment with NFSv4 on it I will. Probably try to export and mount file systems from/to a F12 system. Sounds like a nice challenge. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 22:05 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: ... snip ... The problem appears to be on the F12 client side: # service nfs restart Shutting down NFS mountd: [FAILED] Shutting down NFS daemon: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS quotas: [ OK ] Shutting down NFS services:[FAILED] Starting NFS services: [ OK ] Starting NFS quotas: [ OK ] Starting NFS daemon: [ OK ] Starting NFS mountd: Usage: rpc.mountd [-F|--foreground] [-h|--help] [-v|--version] [ -d kind|--debug kind] [-o num|--descriptors num] [-f exports-file|--exports-file=file] [-p|--port port] [-V version|--nfs-version version] [-N version|--no-nfs-version version] [-n|--no-tcp] [-H ha-callout-prog] [-s|--state-directory-path path] [-g|--manage-gids] [-t num|--num-threads=num] [FAILED] About four years ago I was able to set up a similar arrangement using nfs3 on RHEL4 and F6, but this is my first attempt with nfs4. I seem to be having the same problem Robert P.J. Day is having with rpc.mountd. a private emailer tells me that what's causing the problem above is deselecting the NFSv1 line from /etc/sysconfig/nfs. apparently, that causes the problem so you should try this: #MOUNTD_NFS_V1=no MOUNTD_NFS_V2=no MOUNTD_NFS_V3=no weirdly, that fixes that last problem. why should that be? Robert, Weird is right. It does fix the nfs restart problem, but not the manual nfs mount problem. There's something else still lurking. Thanks. i'll start with submitting the above rpc.mountd error(?) to bugzilla. it seems pretty clear that *needing* NFSv1 support simply to *start* rpc.mountd makes no sense. but there's still another issue related to this. as i read it, NFSv4 now incorporates the mount operation in the protocol, and i read that as saying that you don't even *need* a running rpc.mountd anymore if you restrict yourself to NFSv4. however, the earlier emailer wrote the following: My understanding is that mountd, statd etc are still needed but they do not need to be exposed to the outside world. That is, you can limit all of them in /etc/hosts.allow to 127.0.0.1 and only open port 2049 on the firewall. so does anyone know for sure? in any event, i'll bugzilla that earlier error. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. -- Chihuahuas drive me crazy. I can't stand anything that shivers when it's warm. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Also having NFSv4 problems
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Ed Greshko wrote: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-nfs.html States |rpc.mountd| — This process receives mount requests from NFS clients and verifies the requested file system is currently exported. This process is started automatically by the |nfs| service and does not require user configuration. This is not used with NFSv4. and if that's truly the case, then the NFS start script /etc/init.d/nfs should not try to invoke rpc.mountd (or rpc.statd for that matter) when it's obvious that you're trying to run exclusively with NFSv4, no? if that's the case, i can bugzilla that as well but i want to make sure that it's really an error first. I suppose a case could be made for that either way. Seems rather minor to me. I've not yet had time to look a this stuff. However, is there any downside from starting rpc.mountd even if it isn't going to be used? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 13:20 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. My 2c: The Fedora users list My 2p Fedora Users us...@lists.fedoraproject.org I'm not a Fedora User. I only keep a F12 virtual machine to investigate questions that interest me. Does that disqualify me from posting? :-) -- Ninety percent of everything is crap. -- Theodore Sturgeon Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
Mail Lists wrote: On 12/30/2009 06:27 PM, Mail Lists wrote: I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Or perhaps: Fedora General Too non-specific . :-) -- Hello. Just walk along and try NOT to think about your INTESTINES being almost FORTY YARDS LONG!! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora
Randy Yates wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges. I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have helped me: http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA! So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please, PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered, self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others. Have a good New Year! Are you asking a question regarding an IRC chat room on the fedora mailing list? Those two things are separate. -- One would like to stroke and caress human beings, but one dares not do so, because they bite. -- Vladimir Il'ich Lenin Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora
Randy Yates wrote: Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com writes: Randy Yates wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? VileGent Khaytsus (or however you speel his name) [R] They are absolute pricks. If the Fedora community wants to improve their position with the public, I suggest that they start monitoring #fedora for the utterly vehement, venomous, vicious attitudes these regulars have there and do a little pruning of operator priviledges. I have been a Fedora user for 4 years (since FC3). I have (for better or worse) provided documentation on some things that have helped me: http://galois.digitalsignallabs.com/notes.htm I have encouraged my friends to switch to linux/fedora. I'm advising others. I've filed several bug reports. I'M ON-BOARD WITH FEDORA! So if you want to keep folks like me, and encourage others, please, PLEASE - clean up the #fedora channel from the egomaniac, self-centered, self-serving folks that spoil it for so many others. Have a good New Year! Are you asking a question regarding an IRC chat room on the fedora mailing list? Those two things are separate. Well there is one connection: Fedora! If one part of the community is hurting Fedora, the other parts should be concerned. I have the feeling that people use one or the other. I never use the IRC channel. So, I wouldn't even being to know where the correct place to address your issue. I just logged in to that channel and see the following disclaimer Any advice you read here is provided by individual community members. You should use it at your OWN RISK. This advice is owned by each individual, and does NOT represent the views of Freenode, Fedora or Red Hat. This channel may be logged FWIW, you may find (infrequently) people on this list that don't get along. They normally take their food fights offline. :-) -- What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind. -- Thomas Hewitt Key, 1799-1875 Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: Suggestion: May I suggest as we move to the new mailling list server, that we please change the name(s) from the current long (and goofy) one(s) such as: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. to something more concise ? thanks. I dunno, I don't have to retype this so as long as it makes sense I not only have no objection but I think the explicitness makes it desirable for the many list subscribers who do not have English as their first language. While I have no objection to the current name I just thought I'd mention that your explanation doesn't wash. At least not when it comes to my wife, whose first language is Mandarin. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
dovecot sieve
Hi, Is anyone using dovecot sieve on F12? I've tried enabling it in the dovecot.conf and dovecot fails to start with the following error message. Starting Dovecot Imap: dlopen(/usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib90_sieve_plugin.so) failed: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib90_sieve_plugin.so: undefined symbol: duplicate_check Couldn't load required plugins dovecot-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 dovecot-sieve-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 dovecot-managesieve-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 Couldn't find any bugzilla Ed -- Ditat Deus. [God enriches] Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[SOLVED] Re: dovecot sieve
Ed Greshko wrote: Hi, Is anyone using dovecot sieve on F12? I've tried enabling it in the dovecot.conf and dovecot fails to start with the following error message. Starting Dovecot Imap: dlopen(/usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib90_sieve_plugin.so) failed: /usr/lib/dovecot/imap/lib90_sieve_plugin.so: undefined symbol: duplicate_check Couldn't load required plugins dovecot-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 dovecot-sieve-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 dovecot-managesieve-1.2.8-2.fc12.i686 Couldn't find any bugzilla Never mind. Just realized I enabled sieve in the wrong stanza of the dovecot.conf. Coffee does it again -- There are no data that cannot be plotted on a straight line if the axis are chosen correctly. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Tim wrote: Headers from your email, as I received it (but abbreviated), below: Received: from localhost; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:13:43 +1030 Envelope-to: t...@localhost; Delivery-date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:35 +1100 Received: from server for t...@localhost (single-drop); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:13:43 +1030 (CST) Received: from mx1-phx2.redhat.com by external mail ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:27:35 +1100 Received: from lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:20:06 -0500 Received: from int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:17:02 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ;Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:16:57 -0500 Received: from s3.sapience.com ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:16:46 -0500 Received: from mail.prv.sapience.com ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:16:45 -0500 Received: from lap1.prv.sapience.com ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:16:45 -0500 I can see a delay in the middle, but only a few minutes. That could well be normal processing times. And something odd within my LAN; some 14 minutes going back and forth in time. All our PCs are NTP synchronised, and timezones are set right (Adelaide, South Australia), so it's not a local clock issue. You say it isn't a local clock issue, yet the time zones are flipping within your LAN. AFAIK, Adelaide is GMT+1030 in summer time. The only time I've seen time zone incorrectness like this was when some systems, at the office I worked at, had some UID's that would alter the TZ environment variable. Made troubleshooting time sensitive transactions a real bitch. I'm especially not fond of systems that use alpha designations for time zones. CST, is that Central Standard Time (USA), China Standard Time, or ? :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 17:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: You say it isn't a local clock issue, yet the time zones are flipping within your LAN. AFAIK, Adelaide is GMT+1030 in summer time. The only time I've seen time zone incorrectness like this was when some systems, at the office I worked at, had some UID's that would alter the TZ environment variable. Made troubleshooting time sensitive transactions a real bitch. Yeah, our timezones are GMT+9.5 normally, or GMT+10.5 in summer time (which is now). A half hour difference, but the headers show the time flipping by 14 minutes, as well. And, it's all on the same computer. Grr! Weird Wondering if hwclock -r returns a correct time...or if there is a difference between the hardware clock and the system clock. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newellpnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gnome desktop? :) Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that the opSys was using. Worked great and, to use the cliché, groovy Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems moving forward. kevin If the OP is interested, the command line way to do this would be to have one of your login scripts like ~/.bash_profile say, setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp ;) Suvayu: Thanks, this is interesting. So it is in .bash_profile and not .bashrc? Is there a similar way to do in either cshrc or, preferably, tcshrc? At this point it would be helpful to read man bash and man tcsh which will answer your questions about when the various ~/. files are read. -- Life is a whim of several billion cells to be you for a while. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Tim wrote: Ed Greshko: Weird Wondering if hwclock -r returns a correct time...or if there is a difference between the hardware clock and the system clock. It shouldn't, and it doesn't. The hardware clock is set to GMT on that machine, too. It's not dual-boot, and it's rarely ever rebooted or shutdown. Everything was set up for the least annoyances. Yes, it shouldn't (one of those famous last words). Still, if you have processes reporting times that are off by 14 minutes it would be nice to track down the culprit. Of interest is 14 is around half the difference between GMT+1030 and GMT+1100. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any well behaved desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. It is my impression that.bashrc is souurced whenever any program is run in a bash environment. I am willing to be corrected. By bash environment if you mean a terminal emulator then that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. However if for example you run something using a menu or shortcut on your desktop or maybe Alt-F2 then ~/.bashrc is _not_ sourced, and environment variables defined there won't be available to you. If you want something like that, you need to define it in your ~/.bash_profile. Hope this makes my point clearer. :) Naive question it sounds like if a user has selected bash as shell-of-choice, then bash_profile is there for any operation (terminal or not) that would involve the use of the shell? I might not be saying this right, but I am trying to understand just how global bash_profile is and, if not, why it isn't as it seems by your email that for all intents and purposes it is global to a user's login process. Thanks for bearing with the question given that you already know I am running tcsh and therefore this is a learning exercise as opposed to a real occurrence in my usage of fedora. Paul Why not just read man bash? -- 95% of guys masturbate...the other 5% lie. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any well behaved desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often, so can't comment on them). ~/.bashrc gets sourced when ever you open an interactive shell, maybe by opening a terminal emulator or login in remotely. This means whenever you login remotely both ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc gets sourced. However if you open a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal or xterm only your ~/.bashrc gets sourced. It is my impression that.bashrc is souurced whenever any program is run in a bash environment. I am willing to be corrected. By bash environment if you mean a terminal emulator then that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. However if for example you run something using a menu or shortcut on your desktop or maybe Alt-F2 then ~/.bashrc is _not_ sourced, and environment variables defined there won't be available to you. If you want something like that, you need to define it in your ~/.bash_profile. Hope this makes my point clearer. :) Naive question it sounds like if a user has selected bash as shell-of-choice, then bash_profile is there for any operation (terminal or not) that would involve the use of the shell? I might not be saying this right, but I am trying to understand just how global bash_profile is and, if not, why it isn't as it seems by your email that for all intents and purposes it is global to a user's login process. Thanks for bearing with the question given that you already know I am running tcsh and therefore this is a learning exercise as opposed to a real occurrence in my usage of fedora. Paul Why not just read man bash? Because bring up the man bash pages and searching for profile gives me info about what happens with a shell or a non-interactive --login shell and doesn't give me any meta information that either answers my question or makes it clear that I am asking the wrong question. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html One of the reasons to watch/read this forum is to get answers to questions that man pages don't supply. In my experience, if you want to know exactly how to do something with a given command/whatever, they are great. If you want to get an understanding of the overall picture of the command/whatever, they aren't very good as they assume you have already commit to this is what I am using so how do I do this particular operation. To ask what is the scope of .bash_profile outside of sourcing order in particular occurrences, I don't see it in the man pages. I am more than happy to be told that I am totally incorrect in my interpretation of this. Thanks (and that includes making me double-check the man pages to prove to myself that I am not seeing the answer I am looking for!), Paul I suppose I don't understand your question or what makes you think the man page doesn't answer it. The man page tells you under what conditions the various files (/etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_login etc) are read depending on what type of shell (interactive, login). Are you saying there is a situation not covered? Remember, everything that is executed is executed under a shell. -- When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro... -- Hunter S. Thompson Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Paul Allen Newell wrote: I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via splash screen or if it is confined to logining into a shell. If the former, then I would assume bash_profiles is hit once and everything done thereafter would be under its command. If the latter, then I am probably unclear about whether launching a terminal is a login act (hence under bash_profile only within that shell). As I said on my initial reply to this thread, Naive question. I may be missing a fundamental understanding of shells and logins and all that sort of stuff. A login shell is what it says it is. A shell created as a consequence of logging in. That could be a console login in run level 3, the GUI login screen in run level 5, an ssh login from a remote system, etc. Starting, for example, gnome-terminal, does not constitute a login shell. One thing you can do to learn when .bashrc and .bash_profile are sourced is to add something like touch /tmp/bashrc.time to the end of your .bashrc file and a similar line to your .bash_profile. Then you can ls -l --time-style=full-iso (to display the seconds). I also think you may want to learn about PID's and PPID's (Process ID, and Parent Process ID). -- How to make a million dollars: First, get a million dollars. -- Steve Martin Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via splash screen or if it is confined to logining into a shell. If the former, then I would assume bash_profiles is hit once and everything done thereafter would be under its command. If the latter, then I am probably unclear about whether launching a terminal is a login act (hence under bash_profile only within that shell). As I said on my initial reply to this thread, Naive question. I may be missing a fundamental understanding of shells and logins and all that sort of stuff. A login shell is what it says it is. A shell created as a consequence of logging in. That could be a console login in run level 3, the GUI login screen in run level 5, an ssh login from a remote system, etc. Starting, for example, gnome-terminal, does not constitute a login shell. I also forgot to mention the -i and -l parameters on the #!/bin/bash line of a shell script that would also affect the type of shell. One thing you can do to learn when .bashrc and .bash_profile are sourced is to add something like touch /tmp/bashrc.time to the end of your .bashrc file and a similar line to your .bash_profile. Then you can ls -l --time-style=full-iso (to display the seconds). I also think you may want to learn about PID's and PPID's (Process ID, and Parent Process ID). -- There's an old proverb that says just about whatever you want it to. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling mysql-5.1.41 in Fedora 12
Kurian Thayil wrote: g++: yes: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mysqld] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Any clue regarding this? Thank you. http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=42039 Long story, short This is not a bug. The --with-mysqld-libs option should be given an argument, something like --with-mysqld-libs=-L/path/to/lib -lfoo -lbar. FWIW, this is the first reference returned by google :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only 2 and i've poked around under System-Prefs and don't see a setting for that. You should be quite embarrassed :-) Right click over the workspaces in the lower right corner and pick Preferences. -- You love your home and want it to be beautiful. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only 2 and i've poked around under System-Prefs and don't see a setting for that. You should be quite embarrassed :-) Right click over the workspaces in the lower right corner and pick Preferences. wow ... that just blew away all of my desktops and quit unexpectedly. is there a Plan B? Strange. Works fine here Before or after it brought up the Preferences dialog box? Log out and log in and try again? Or, I could find the file that gets altered -- Auction: A gyp off the old block. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only 2 and i've poked around under System-Prefs and don't see a setting for that. You should be quite embarrassed :-) Right click over the workspaces in the lower right corner and pick Preferences. wow ... that just blew away all of my desktops and quit unexpectedly. is there a Plan B? FWIW, the number of workspaces is kept in this file ~/.gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling mysql-5.1.41 in Fedora 12
Kurian Thayil wrote: Hi, So will it make a difference if --with-mysqld-libs option is removed? Yes, it will compile. I think you also failed to notice that --with-default-charset is not a valid option. Let me try that. Regards, Kurian Thayil. On 12/27/09, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Kurian Thayil wrote: g++: yes: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mysqld] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mysql/src/mysql-5.1.41/sql' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Any clue regarding this? Thank you. http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=42039 Long story, short This is not a bug. The --with-mysqld-libs option should be given an argument, something like --with-mysqld-libs=-L/path/to/lib -lfoo -lbar. FWIW, this is the first reference returned by google :-) -- Entropy requires no maintenance. -- Markoff Chaney Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Mail Lists wrote: On 12/27/2009 01:09 PM, Marc Wilson wrote: deleted Someone explain to me why it matters, please? Coz if the server can only process N messages per day - there will be a backup problem ... and messages will eventually get deleted before they get mailed out. That help? Of course a given message, by default, would have to remain in the queue for 4320 minutes before it is declared non-deliverable. Somehow I think the list admins would notice message delays and queue depths that would result in messages becoming non-deliverable and take the appropriate action. -- When I saw a sign on the freeway that said, Los Angeles 445 miles, I said to myself, I've got to get out of this lane. -- Franklyn Ajaye Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A survey
suvayu ali wrote: Dear interviewees! Thank you for your responses. But you just don't understand. I know how to configure mouse buttons for left hand (i.e. reverse buttons functions). I don't know how to change mouse _pointer_ orientation. I would like to change it like this: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7656/mouseu.jpg I remember it was possible in the days of FC7. That is easy! I don't know about KDE but for GTK based desktops like Gnome or XFCE just select the appropriate theme, e.g. LBluecurve. Have fun, and Merry Christmas :) KDE also has cursor themes. Easy to find under System Settings. The only left handed theme included by default is as you said...LBluecurve. More can be downloaded from www.kde-look.org and there is a corresponding gnome-look.org. -- Don't get mad, get interest. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox not working after on line updates
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 22Dec2009 08:24, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: | Frank Cox wrote: | On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:31 -0600, Brian Wood wrote: | I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't | helped. | | This is likely your problem. Firefox probably expects to find sqlite | installed from a Fedora rpm and not a homebuilt one. | | All this is rather strange since I did a | rpm --test -e sqlite | | There is no is needed by (installed) firefox but there is is needed | by (installed) thunderbird. | | So, it would not appear that firefox is dependent on sqlite. Well, its rpm isn't; bad rpm spec file? The bookmarks/places stuff uses an sqlite db, so firefox definitely does need sqlite from somewhere. After a bit of research it doesn't appear that firefox is dependent on sqlite. However, it is dependent on xulrunner which is dependent on sqlite. FWIW, when one downloads the source of FF from mozilla.org the necessary xulrunner and sqlite components are embedded/included in the source. It seems the build rpm process for FF uses xulrunner-devel-unstable but takes the necessary sqlite bits from its own source. In other words...for file manipulation of cookies.sqlite and other db files it uses a static built sqlite. For xulrunner functions it uses dynamic libs. (Or words to that effecttoo earlyno coffee) -- Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I disabled MozPlugger. Everything is back to the defaults as on Omega and your system. Goddammed plug-in! Must have been useful some time ago. If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. The wrapper is downloaded as a consequence of clicking on the show's video in the same way the wrapper from MSNBC is downloaded. FWIW, MSNBC doesn't use a wrapper around the flash player. I was mistaken. I may take a quick look at getting around it...but won't spend too much time on it. Thanks! Welcome. -- For God's sake, stop researching for a while and begin to think! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. More FWIW CBC uses the embedded video software call UberPlayer. This software doesn't support Linux. PBS (http://www.pbs.org) uses their own PBSPlayer.swf and it does support Linux. Too bad CBC has decided to source their player from a vendor that doesn't value Linux customers. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox not working after on line updates
Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:31 -0600, Brian Wood wrote: I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't helped. This is likely your problem. Firefox probably expects to find sqlite installed from a Fedora rpm and not a homebuilt one. All this is rather strange since I did a rpm --test -e sqlite There is no is needed by (installed) firefox but there is is needed by (installed) thunderbird. So, it would not appear that firefox is dependent on sqlite. -- A day without orange juice is like a day without orange juice. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error
Mike Park wrote: Hi there, I must be one of the very few people this has happened to, as Google appears to have only pointed me at 'Bug 520339' ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ). Has anyone else experienced behavior like this with Firefox? It seems my SQLite is up to date, so I'm wondering if there's a config setting somewhere that needs to be corrected? It's weird, this happened recently after an update maybe sometime last week? I'm still in the process of trying to track down exactly which batch of updates did it, but for now, Firefox won't start up. Package version info below: $ rpm -qa \*xulrunner\* \*firefox\* \*sqlite\* firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64 qt-sqlite-4.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64 xulrunner-1.9.1.6-1.fc12.x86_64 mono-data-sqlite-2.4.2.3-2.fc12.x86_64 sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.x86_64 $ uname -r 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 Have you tried starting firefox from the command line with -safe-mode selected? -- Is there something I should be DOING with a GLAZED DONUT?? Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. -- Man does not live by words alone, despite the fact that sometimes he has to eat them. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. It does...with the correct gstreamer-plugins installed Haven't we been down this road before? I am telling youthose videos run fine on my system. I only use fedora and rpmfusion repos. The videos are playing on my system using gecko-mediaplayerregardless of your opinion. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. 32 -- If money can't buy happiness, I guess you'll just have to rent it. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. It does...with the correct gstreamer-plugins installed I have it installed. It is used for... Flash video! I am telling youthose videos run fine on my system. I only use fedora and rpmfusion repos. If all your system is 32 bit, I believe you. Mine worked fine with all 64 bit. But i installed Flash 32 bit because of security concerns. I don't believe the 64 bit version is patched and I don't like having to check all the time because it's not installed by yum. The videos are playing on my system using gecko-mediaplayerregardless of your opinion. Here, the slosest math for asf and asx would b epalin mplayer. Otherwise, it's MozPlugger. For Windows media, the closest match would be GNOME MPlayer. Is this the same as selection gecko? I don't have any gecko option available for Windows Media. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. 32 If it's all 32 bit, that's probably why. Do you use Mplayer or Totem? Omega uses Totem, I use Mplayer, which is recommenced by Radio-Canada. Mplayer used to work better. Maybe this has changed. BUT, though I might find a solution, all this is completely ridiculous. In the US, Microsoft is under the legislator's eye and I've been playing non-stop about 10 videos on... MS-NBC, which uses Flash-Player Here, in Canada, we're a banana republic. Harper is most probably financed by Microsoft. Sometimes, you don't change the settings at all and the videos stop playing. After Christmas, I'll see if there is anything to do with the opposition parties. At the CBC, you can't even play Flash, videos! http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows Hey, that's quite a feat! And no settings are involved in this case. In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. -- Ever notice that the word therapist breaks down into the rapist? Simple coincidence? Maybe... Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ed Greshko In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. Omega can't play them either. As I can play Flash videos anywhere in the world... if the tv broadcaster allows them to go outside the county and unless a special home made plug-in is requested such as at ABC. Do you have any idea can possibly be the use of such a wrapper, except to prevent Linux from reading the videos? The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. If tou go to Prefrences Applications, you see gecko-mediaplayer listed for asf, asx and Windows Media??? I doubt it. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. Gecko Media Player is a browser plugin that uses GNOME MPlayer to play media in a browser. http://kdekorte.googlepages.com/gecko-mediaplayer But, in the Preferences, Applications options, you sometimes have mplayer, sometimes Gecko Media Player and sometimes GNOME Media Player. If this is all the same, it's rather confusing. There's also a MozPlugger option. From firefox's about:plugins Windows Media Player Plug-in File name: gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/asx Media Files * Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes video/x-msvideoAVI avi,* Yes video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes application/x-ms-wmvMicrosoft WMV video wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes application/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes video/x-ms-wvxWindows Media wvx,* Yes audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes application/x-drm-v2Windows Media asx,* Yes audio/wavMicrosoft wave file wav,* Yes audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes As I said Those videos play just fine on my F12 32 bit system. And mplayer is being used. Your choice to believe it or not. -- Early to rise, early to bed, makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead. -- Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: I disabled MozPlugger. Everything is back to the defaults as on Omega and your system. Goddammed plug-in! Must have been useful some time ago. If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. The wrapper is downloaded as a consequence of clicking on the show's video in the same way the wrapper from MSNBC is downloaded. I may take a quick look at getting around it...but won't spend too much time on it. Thanks! Welcome. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[OT] LCD Display and earthquakes .....
This is OT...but wonder if anyone has experienced or see this before. My older Samsung SyncMaster 172t is hooked to a system I use mainly for running SlingPlayer. Part of the upper left quadrant had what could be called a smear patter or smudge pattern. It isn't from any type of burn in. But looked like what you see if you run fingers around on the screen...only permanent. It had been like this for a long time. Anyway, I didn't have the monitor turned on last night when Taiwan was hit by a 6.8 earthquake. It registered a 4.3 in Taipei and other than drawers opening and the TV rolling away we had no damage. But, when I turned the monitor on this AM the smear pattern was gone. So, a shake-table is a good repair tool? :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, maybe too early in the morning (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a MicrosoftOffice text...) AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is first encountered and clicked on. -- The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The willingness to learn is a choice. -- REBEC OF GINAZ Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: 2009/12/18 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com: Antonio M wrote: how do I add an other type of attachment?? I don't see such option, maybe too early in the morning (I have only OpenDocument text and PDF document, I want to add a MicrosoftOffice text...) AFAIK, you can't add new attachment types directly...at least not from the GUI. The actions get created when a particular attachment type is first encountered and clicked on. -- es I guess that some lines have to be added manually to mymetypes.rdf in ./Thunderbird/Profiles folder, but how??? No I just means you either have to wait until someone sends you a particular attachment or you can send them to yourself. -- A private sin is not so prejudicial in the world as a public indecency. -- Miguel de Cervantes Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some Thunderbird attachments don't start application
Antonio M wrote: I am running F11 fully updated on this box, thunderbird-3.0-3.fc11.i586, openoffice.org-3.1.1-19.8 When I receive an attachment, if it is *.odt Openoffice is started, if it is *.doc I have only the option to save it... Both files start openoffice from nautilus. What shall I do to have the correct behaviour??? Tnx You should be able to change it in Edit---Preferences--Attachments -- The cost of feathers has risen, even down is up! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: SB driver in F12 ?
i was the postman of this topic. It took another way of discussion but I didn't get an answer for my question... Is there a driver available on F12 for the SoundBlaster X-FI card ? I believe the module to support this card is snd-ctxfi.ko and does exist in F12. Ed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 - Anyone using mplayer + vdpau?
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Jorge Fábregas writes: Hello everyone, I just moved to Fedora 12 (finally) and I enabled the RPM Fusion repo in order to install the nvidia driver plus mplayer (and all its dependencies) in order to see if I could finally use mplayer with vdpau (in order to offload h.264 playback to the GPU). Unfortunately when I play some h.264 material I get: [vdpau] Could not open dynamic library libvdpau.so.1 I chechked all the packages that were installed (after requesting the nvidia driver): kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE-190.42-1.fc12.8.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-190.42-5.fc12.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-190.42-5.fc12.i686 nvidia-xconfig-1.0-1.fc12.i686 kmod-nvidia-PAE-190.42-1.fc12.8.i686 nvidia-settings-1.0-3.2.fc12.i686 ...but none of them provide this file. Is there a way around this? ...before going the mplayer compilation route :( Ummm… Did you try yum install libvdpau? And, for future reference, a yum whatprovides libvdpau.so.1 would have provided the answer. -- A man paints with his brains and not with his hands. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Phantom Update
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/11/2009 04:05 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/11 Rahul Sundaram : File a bug report against gnome-packagekit. Seems to be a recurring bug. In the future, can you tell people to search for existing bugs in bugzilla _before_ they file bugs please. The person I replied to is a long time Fedora user and contributor. So he would know to check for duplicates:-) Too bad you replied in public where others may read it who are not long time users/contributors and follow your advice. :-( -- Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side, and it holds the universe together ... -- Carl Zwanzig Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: receive webcam on Fedora 10
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I have surfed the web to find if pidgin or kopete can receive webcam for my msn contacts. I have found no clear answer for fedora. Could you help me. Is there any plugin for that? I don't think you looked very hard :-) http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using Pidgin#DoesPidginsupportMSNvideochat Regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- Audacity, and again, audacity, and always audacity. -- G.J. Danton Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: receive webcam on Fedora 10
Ed Greshko wrote: Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I have surfed the web to find if pidgin or kopete can receive webcam for my msn contacts. I have found no clear answer for fedora. Could you help me. Is there any plugin for that? I don't think you looked very hard :-) http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using Pidgin#DoesPidginsupportMSNvideochat I mean... http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#DoesPidginsupportMSNvideochat Regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- Cow-tippers tipped a cow onto the server. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spamassassin Queston.
Reg Clemens wrote: I understood the interaction between Dcc and Spamassassin several years ago when I set up my machine as a 32bit mail server. Recently I upgraded the machine to 64bit Fedora-11, and I frankly don't understand the interaction between Dcc and Spamassassin in the code. Both are invoked via a .procmailrc file, the significant part of which is: --- # DCC Processing :0fw | /usr/local/bin/dccproc # SpamAssassin Processing :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc # Spam to file or /dev/null.. :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes |$RCV +SpamX :0: * ! ^Message-Id: [ ]*[^ @]...@[^ @]+[ ]*$ |$RCV +SpamX --- Previous to this are lines to either accept or toss mail from specific locations/ or Subjects/ or List-IDs. After this I look at the remaining mail. --- So my question: Does SpamAssassin actually look at the X-DCC-dcc ... Metrics line that Dcc installs in the file and use it as information in creating its X-Spam-Status: Yes line. That seems to be the case, but its been a long time, and I really don't remember how these things interact. Everything SEEMS to be working. I promise to write down whats happening this time... Does... http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsingDcc Help? -- One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Spamassassin Queston.
Reg Clemens wrote: Yes, I am familiar with that web page, and yes I see the X-DCC-dcc lines that dccproc has put in the incoming messages (so its running) My question was: is SpamAssassin seeing them? or are they just being put there, but ignored? That would seem to be controlled by the Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC plugin for spamassassin and its settings. -- A lack of leadership is no substitute for inaction. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I disable coredumps on F12?
Andre Costa wrote: Hi Ed, On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 01:57, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Andre Costa wrote: Hi Rick, thks for the reply. Comments below: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 23:12, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com mailto:ri...@nerd.com mailto:ri...@nerd.com mailto:ri...@nerd.com wrote: On 12/08/2009 03:44 PM, Andre Costa wrote: Hi, apps crashes are generating coredumps on /var/cache/abrt/* ; since I won't debug them myself and won't send them anywhere because they're too big, I would like to turn them off. I tried uncommenting #* softcore0 on /etc/security/limits.conf but it did not work, coredumps were still being generated. I believe you need to reboot for that to take effect. I did that, to no avail :-( Then I tried to set MaxCrashReportsSize = 0 directly on /etc/abrt/abrt.conf, restarted abrtd but it didn't work either (oddly enough abrt-gui doesn't allow changing this setting, ok button is disabled -- not even if I run it as root). So, as a last resource I created a script on /etc/cron.daily to get rid of the coredumps, but I'd rather not create them in the first place. Anyone could give a hand? Well, you should also, as root: echo 'fs.suid_dumpable = 0' /etc/sysctl.conf sysctl -p That prevents suid programs from creating core files. You should also make sure that there is a line to the effect: ulimit -S -c 0 /dev/null 21 is in /etc/profile so that all users have a core file dump limit size of 0 bytes. Cool, nice tips, will implement them and see if they finally free me from these damned coredumps =/ (IMHO there should be an easier way of doing that, considering this is a new feature shipped with F12) Have you tried simply turning off the abrtd service? That's definitely an option, and it already crossed my mind, but the thing is that I'd really like to contribute with bug reports. My problem is not abrt per se, I actually like the idea, but I just can't understand why it is not easy to turn off coredumps generation since they're useless -- the smallest one I've got was 15M, which AFAIK would never be accepted as a bugzilla attachment (and it can get worse: Firefox keeps generating 350-450M coredumps when it crashes...). So, ideally I would keep abrt around, and just turn off coredumps generation. But, if worse comes to worst, I will end up disabling it completely -- which I think will be a step back, but... Ahhhthat doesn't make much sense., IHMO. The abrtd service is designed to collect all the relevant information on a crash and send it back for analysis. Part of that relevant information would be the coredump. So, you want to remove a portion of the relevant information? Don't you think that would devalue the service? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I disable coredumps on F12?
Andre Costa wrote: Hi Rick, thks for the reply. Comments below: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 23:12, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com mailto:ri...@nerd.com wrote: On 12/08/2009 03:44 PM, Andre Costa wrote: Hi, apps crashes are generating coredumps on /var/cache/abrt/* ; since I won't debug them myself and won't send them anywhere because they're too big, I would like to turn them off. I tried uncommenting #* softcore0 on /etc/security/limits.conf but it did not work, coredumps were still being generated. I believe you need to reboot for that to take effect. I did that, to no avail :-( Then I tried to set MaxCrashReportsSize = 0 directly on /etc/abrt/abrt.conf, restarted abrtd but it didn't work either (oddly enough abrt-gui doesn't allow changing this setting, ok button is disabled -- not even if I run it as root). So, as a last resource I created a script on /etc/cron.daily to get rid of the coredumps, but I'd rather not create them in the first place. Anyone could give a hand? Well, you should also, as root: echo 'fs.suid_dumpable = 0' /etc/sysctl.conf sysctl -p That prevents suid programs from creating core files. You should also make sure that there is a line to the effect: ulimit -S -c 0 /dev/null 21 is in /etc/profile so that all users have a core file dump limit size of 0 bytes. Cool, nice tips, will implement them and see if they finally free me from these damned coredumps =/ (IMHO there should be an easier way of doing that, considering this is a new feature shipped with F12) Have you tried simply turning off the abrtd service? -- The only skills I have the patience to learn are those that have no real application in life. -- Calvin Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Tiff files frmo xsane arent usable in windows
Joseph L. Casale wrote: I scanned a sh!tload of docs and saved as tiff files, then scp'ed these across the wire to another linux box that has a windows user who needs these images. Problem is, that windows user, nor me on a windows box here can open these files? Anyone know why, and if there is a batch image conversion I can do that wont affect the quality on the remote lniux box so I don't have to re-upload all these files? I've no problem viewing tiff files, created by xsane, on a Windows system. In any event, convert (from ImageMagick package) along with a simple shell script should do just fine. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
Bob Goodwin wrote: I just installed [yum] system-config-display and get the following message when I try to use it: [b...@box9 ~]$ system-config-display (xconf.py:4947): Gdk-WARNING **: DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID contains invalid UTF-8 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py, line 376, in module dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo()) File /usr/share/system-config-display/xConfigDialog.py, line 641, in __init__ if len(self.xconfig.layout[0].adjacencies) 1: IndexError: index out-of-bounds All I want to do is determine what display parameters I am using? What's wrong here? Bob Well...FWIW, it works here fine on a fully updated F12 in both KDE and GNOME sessions. The GNOME session does have the following set [gno...@f12 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated Maybe you should check yours and see if there is another environment variable of DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID set with some weird characters? Ed -- If people drank ink instead of Schlitz, they'd be better off. -- Edward E. Hippensteel [What brand of ink? Ed.] Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
Bob Goodwin wrote: I should have said this is F-11/XFCE. I don't have the F-12 box running at the moment ... [b...@box9 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes Bob OK From my fully updated F11 system and running XFCE [egres...@f11 ~]$ env | grep DESK IMSETTINGS_INTEGRATE_DESKTOP=yes DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4 And it works. Ed -- Publishing a volume of verse is like dropping a rose petal down the Grand Canyon and waiting for the echo. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No system-config-display ?
Bob Goodwin wrote: I must admit I don't know how to change env and man env is not helping. I did : env DESKTOP_SESSION=xfce4 but that did not make it work. It asks for pasword and then comes up with the error message. I even tried re-booting the computer from poweroff. I started the F-12 computer and did yum install system-config-display and it does work as expected. Well I'm nearly at the point of updating this computer to F-12 too so it's moot I guess. Just waiting to see if there is an F-12 Omega livecd. I would like to know how to change/add to the environment though? Guess google will tell me that if no one else does ... Thanks for the help. FWIW, I am pretty sure I was barking up the wrong tree. It seems that DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID is actually related to Xorg than anything elseand it is too late and I've got to get up too early to really delve into it. http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html It would seem that you've always started system-config-display as a normal user. I'd be curious if you'd first su - if the same error would occur. Also, FWIW, there were several bugzilla's for various system-config-* utils with the same error message. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Radeon HD 5770. Is there a better driver than VESA?
wmj...@aol.com wrote: I understand that the Radeon HD 5770 is part of the Evergreen chip series which is not yet supported by the X.org radeonhd driver. Should I try using it just the same? Currently my Fedora 12 configuration defaults to VESA. While not Fedora and not in any repository...at least one person has it working http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59t=35908start=0 YMMV, caveat emptor, etc -- Do not underestimate the power of the Force. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: installing fedora packages on RHEL -- how bad the craziness?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: actually, this is technically about installing fedora packages on centos 5.4 but, obviously, the same issues apply. and i asked about this on the centos list but i'd like the fedora perspective as well. the short version -- someone running centos 5.4 needs a fairly new version of poppler-utils for pdftohtml. the current version of that package is 0.5.4, and there is (AFAICT) no updated version. that package is currently up at version 0.12: http://poppler.freedesktop.org/. for this person's software to work, his centos box *must* have a newer version of poppler-utils than what is currently available for centos 5.4. apparently, the problem was solved by (yeesh) installing a newer version package in the form of a fedora rpm. how the heck does *that* work? wouldn't that make a mess of the package history? i imagine i would need, what, --nodeps and --ignorearch? but is there a better way to do this? i simply don't see a newer centos/rhel package, which would be the obvious solution. FWIW, I've a RHELv4.8 system for which I needed certain packages at versions not supplied by RHEL. In several cases I found what I needed in Fedora and it installed without issue. In my case no need for --nodeps and --ignorearch or anything else to get what I needed installed. Frankly, if I found I would need --nodeps to install I wouldn't since I feel it would be highly unlikely that the package would then function as expected...or may affect other packages. The only thing I had to do, for at least one package, was to add it to the exclude list since up2date kept trying to downgrade it. Also on the down side I fully expect this system would fail to upgrade to 5.X should I attempt to do it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: locale setup, LANG variable - strange
Michal wrote: Hallo Fedora Users! Assume that I want to set up my fedora to polish locale. Then in contol panel-Regional language I set polish in: 1) in country region language 2) keyboard languae after relogging in this is enough but only for KDE applications. non-kde applications still use sestem wide language (the one that is set by applications-administration-language). How to set them also to use polish. I do not consider changing system wide language to polish. I also noticed, that changing language only in contol panel-Regional language does not change LANG shell variable to polish. Maybe this will lead to an answer? Problem of course is related to any non-kde application, not only firefox. have You got any ideas? On the login screen, after selecting the user, there is a language selector on the lower left. Have you set that to be Polish for your account? -- Beware of the Turing Tar-pit in which everything is possible but nothing of interest is easy. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Trying to get Audio Working on F11
Reg Clemens wrote: OK, I seem to have backed myself into a hole in the ground. I have recently installed F11. I noticed that sound was not playing on the few videos that would play from youtube (the rest of the videos are waiting for me to get flash working a separate problem). I tried aplay, me and root. Nothing. I removed pulseaudio with yum remove pulseaudio and now aplay could play sounds as root, but not me. I checked /dev/snd, and it is 660 root and audio. I changed that to 666 and I could play sounds as me. OK, back up, changed it back to 660, and added myself to the audio group. FOR SOME REASON this did now work. Mumph, no sound as me. OK, decided to back up again. Reinstalled pulseaudio, but was back to where I was to start with, no audio. Reremoved pulseaudio. But NOW I dont get sound with aplay under any conditions, not me, not root. So, I dont know where to go next. I currently have no sould from aplay, nomatter who the user. Things were so much simpler back before this pulseaudio thing came along. Mumph. Any thoughts on what I should try next, and please dont suggest reinstalling F11... Have you tried only aplay? Would you consider trying another player such as mplayer? aplay is command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver. I've had different levels of success with ALSA at times, depending on the sound card in the machine as not all cards support ALSA very well. When I've had problems I've had to resort to using alsactl and alsa-info for help. For example, I have one F11 system where mplayer works just fine...but due to the hardware aplay only seems to output static. I didn't spend any time to try getting it to work with aplay since mplayer works 100%. -- Langsam's Laws: (1) Everything depends. (2) Nothing is always. (3) Everything is sometimes. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: buffer overflow in system-config-httpd
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: system-config-httpd-1.4.6-1.fc12.noarch appears to be badly borked: # system-config-httpd *** buffer overflow detected ***; /usr/bin/python terminated === Backtrace: = ... long backtrace ... 3743809000-374380a000 rw-p 9000 08:02 353257 /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1.0.2/usr/share/system-config-httpd/system-config/httpd: line 4: 2922 Aborted (core dumped) /usr/bin/python /usr/share/systemconfig-httpd/ApacheConf.py Has anyone else noticed this and BZ'd it? I don't see a newer version in fedora-testing and development has the same version number. I've never used that utility. So, I gave it a try. It fails the same way for me as well. -- Remember the... the... uhh. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - Can't configure services over a VNC connection
KC8LDO wrote: Does anybody check to see if the configurations work when running these new distros on a head less box? I had problems with F10 being unstable on a P4 box, don't know if its a hardware or software issue. Started getting weird messages about missing python modules, and other python errors, while trying to run yum, some apps failed to work, couldn't even log in as root a few times. It all started after one kernel update a while back and noticed some file system corruption issues, garbage showing up in the folder listings. Anyway that's all another story. I gave up on having it screw up so installed F12 on the same hardware to see what happens. After getting F12 going using VNC I tried configuring some services, the normal enable - disable - start - stop stuff, using the GUI. It won't let you do it. From a directly connected console OK, but not remotely. Same goes for the Samba setup GUI too, won't work over a remote VNC connection. It doesn't even ask for root privileges when you try to change something like what happens with the directly connected console. I had to install the menu editor app and manually change those two to open in a terminal window using the (su -c x) work around on the command line entry. I've only had this version, F12, installed for the passed few hours and I'm already finding simple stuff that doesn't work. I had similar experiences with F10 as well. So the problem has been around for a while. Are these simple PAM errors / miss configurations or what? I would think this would be simple enough to fix and have it stay that way. FYI, I've just tried this on a system with a display. When I try to use a GUI on a VNC connection that needs root privileges the dialog requesting the root password appears on my normal display. Haven't determined what controls that behavior. And may not before my head hits the keyboard. -- Think twice before speaking, but don't say think think click click. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - Can't configure services over a VNC connection
Ed Greshko wrote: KC8LDO wrote: After getting F12 going using VNC I tried configuring some services, the normal enable - disable - start - stop stuff, using the GUI. It won't let you do it. From a directly connected console OK, but not remotely. Same goes for the Samba setup GUI too, won't work over a remote VNC connection. It doesn't even ask for root privileges when you try to change something like what happens with the directly connected console. I had to install the menu editor app and manually change those two to open in a terminal window using the (su -c x) work around on the command line entry. FYI, I've just tried this on a system with a display. When I try to use a GUI on a VNC connection that needs root privileges the dialog requesting the root password appears on my normal display. Haven't determined what controls that behavior. And may not before my head hits the keyboard. FWIW, if you run system-config-services from the command line you'll get the following when you attempt to perform an operation. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 883, in on_serviceDisable_activate service.disable() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/services.py, line 81, in disable return self.chkconfig_interface.disable() File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/slip/dbus/proxies.py, line 49, in __call__ return dbus.proxies._ProxyMethod.__call__(self, *args, **kwargs) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 630, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.fedoraproject.slip.dbus.service.PolKit.NotAuthorizedException.org.fedoraproject.config.services.manage: -- Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you Can't Fool Mom. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? Normally, the folks not having problems don't feel the urge to type. Those having problems feel the need to type. :-0 I was expecting a totally different response. Is F12 stable enough to warrant upgrading to it ? Is it a worthwhile upgrade at this point ? I did a fresh install of F12 with 0 problems. I also upgraded a fully updated F11 system to F12 with 0 problems. So, far...not problems with either systems. But, I must admit that I don't do interesting things on these systems. I don't install non-Fedora or customized kernels. I don't replace Fedora or rpmfusion packages with packages from other places. I prefer to use the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screenshot Tutorial: How to D-I-Y your own Google Chrome OS with Xen-based Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala amd64 Virtual Machine in Fedora 11 x86_64 Pv-Ops Dom0
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/11/22 Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org: On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 18:02 +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Google Chrome OS Download Filename: Google-Chrome-OS-Build-enming.teo-22Nov2009-0704hrs.vmdk Filesize: 697.38MB Or, if you simply want the Chromium browser in Fedora, just use spot's packages that work just fine. To do this, place [chromium] name=Chromium Test Packages baseurl=http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F12/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 in /etc/yum.repos.d/chromium.repo and run # yum -y install chromium Now you have the Chromium logo in the applications menu, or you can start it from the terminal with $ chromium-browser I think the OP is experimenting with this ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS Yes And, FYI, a similar package is available at http://gdgt.com/google/chrome-os/download/ Apologies for the OT post as this is certainly not Fedora...but it is Linux based :-) -- That's no moon... -- Obi-wan Kenobi Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screenshot Tutorial: How to D-I-Y your own Google Chrome OS with Xen-based Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala amd64 Virtual Machine in Fedora 11 x86_64 Pv-Ops Dom0
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Yes And, FYI, a similar package is available at http://gdgt.com/google/chrome-os/download/ Apologies for the OT post as this is certainly not Fedora...but it is Linux based :-) I am looking for people to test out my build to see if it works or I need to rebuild chromiumos. Yes, but since it can't be downloaded from its current location...I was just being helpful to those who wanted to try Chrome-OS regardless of its origin. :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screenshot Tutorial: How to D-I-Y your own Google Chrome OS with Xen-based Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala amd64 Virtual Machine in Fedora 11 x86_64 Pv-Ops Dom0
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) space.time.unive...@gmail.com wrote: Google Chrome OS Download Filename: Google-Chrome-OS-Build-enming.teo-22Nov2009-0704hrs.vmdk Filesize: 697.38MB Type: VMware VMDK image file MD5 Checksum: 1aec57157dd2083b166e493c0e831a 67 Download link: http://www.zshare.net/download/68819648ff817281/ Dear All, My previous build can't work due to bugs. Here is the latest build that works! Latest Google Chrome OS Download: Guaranteed to Work! Filename: Google-Chrome-OS-build-enming.teo-24Nov2009-0528.vmdk.bz2 Filesize: 280 MB Type: VMware VMDK image file bzipped MD5 Checksum: 23371970c3b1c5dee287b9bb97901b7d Download Link #1: http://www.zshare.net/download/689075349802a081/ How to Use: 1. Decompress with bzip2 on Linux. $ bzcat Google-Chrome-OS-build-enming.teo-24Nov2009-0528.vmdk.bz2 2. Use as virtual harddisk with the open source Xen hypervisor, Sun VirtualBox, VMware Workstation, or VMware Player 3. To convert the VMDK image file to Xen HVM domU image file for use with Xen, follow the instructions at the following link. http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/VMDKImage This download also quits after 239997 bytes are downloaded. -- A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Autofs under Fedora-12
Timothy Murphy wrote: Is there a problem with autofs/automount under Fedora-12? I have exactly the same settings that I had in Fedora-11, but the mount command is not being completed at boot-time, although I have no problem giving it later by hand. I'm a bit confused about what command you're giving later. I've used autofs before and don't recall any commands to get it to work. The automount command modifies the auto.master file and the file system would get mounted when the directory is accessed. Could it be that you don't have the autofs service starting at boot time? chkconfig --list autofs -- Satan did it Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: could the missing codec redirection be more informative?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: on a fresh (and barely configured) f12 system, i tried to view my first online .wmv file and was redirected here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec which is moderately informative in terms of telling me what the problem is, but utterly useless in terms of telling me how to fix it. yes, i realize the issues surrounding codecs, but would it be unduly difficult to add to that section some advice on where to *find* such codecs? you know, point readers at rpmfusion or some such? is that not a legally acceptable thing to do? because that's *exactly* the sort of thing that will drive newcomers to fedora totally nuts. AFAIK, it is not legally acceptable to explicitly tell someone how to break the law. I hope nobody starts to argue about how silly they think these laws are. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: could the missing codec redirection be more informative?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: on a fresh (and barely configured) f12 system, i tried to view my first online .wmv file and was redirected here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec which is moderately informative in terms of telling me what the problem is, but utterly useless in terms of telling me how to fix it. yes, i realize the issues surrounding codecs, but would it be unduly difficult to add to that section some advice on where to *find* such codecs? you know, point readers at rpmfusion or some such? is that not a legally acceptable thing to do? because that's *exactly* the sort of thing that will drive newcomers to fedora totally nuts. AFAIK, it is not legally acceptable to explicitly tell someone how to break the law. I hope nobody starts to argue about how silly they think these laws are. um ... ok. in that case, why is fedoraproject.org explicitly pointing people at rpmfusion.org here? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OtherRepositories But, they are not explicitly solving a given problem for you. Subtle difference. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: could the missing codec redirection be more informative?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: on a fresh (and barely configured) f12 system, i tried to view my first online .wmv file and was redirected here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec which is moderately informative in terms of telling me what the problem is, but utterly useless in terms of telling me how to fix it. yes, i realize the issues surrounding codecs, but would it be unduly difficult to add to that section some advice on where to *find* such codecs? you know, point readers at rpmfusion or some such? is that not a legally acceptable thing to do? because that's *exactly* the sort of thing that will drive newcomers to fedora totally nuts. AFAIK, it is not legally acceptable to explicitly tell someone how to break the law. I hope nobody starts to argue about how silly they think these laws are. um ... ok. in that case, why is fedoraproject.org explicitly pointing people at rpmfusion.org here? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OtherRepositories But, they are not explicitly solving a given problem for you. Subtle difference. i wasn't suggesting that the diagnostic solve the problem. but would it be unacceptable for it to give *general* advice about possibly adding extra repositories to your system, and by the way, here's a page with a list of possible repos, do with them what you will. is that unreasonable? Yes, it is likely unreasonable. Again, the advice is not general it is being given in response to a specific issue. If I talk about ways to defeating different alarm systems on a car without having been prompted for advice I am just talking about it. But, if someone saysI tried breaking into a Lexus but couldn't and I respond with even general advice it is pretty clear what my intentions are. I'm intending to instruct you how to break into a Lexus. It is the intent that matters. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screenshot Tutorial: How to D-I-Y your own Google Chrome OS with Xen-based Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala amd64 Virtual Machine in Fedora 11 x86_64 Pv-Ops Dom0
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: _*Google Chrome OS Download*_ Filename: Google-Chrome-OS-Build-enming.teo-22Nov2009-0704hrs.vmdk Filesize: 697.38MB Type: VMware VMDK image file MD5 Checksum: 1aec57157dd2083b166e493c0e831a 67 Download link: http://www.zshare.net/download/68819648ff817281/ FYI, this download always terminates after ~237Kat least attempting to download from Taiwan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: could the missing codec redirection be more informative?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i wasn't suggesting that the diagnostic solve the problem. but would it be unacceptable for it to give *general* advice about possibly adding extra repositories to your system, and by the way, here's a page with a list of possible repos, do with them what you will. is that unreasonable? Yes, it is likely unreasonable. Again, the advice is not general it is being given in response to a specific issue. If I talk about ways to defeating different alarm systems on a car without having been prompted for advice I am just talking about it. But, if someone saysI tried breaking into a Lexus but couldn't and I respond with even general advice it is pretty clear what my intentions are. I'm intending to instruct you how to break into a Lexus. It is the intent that matters. oh, balls. a page from fedoraproject.org: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OtherRepositories *explicitly* refers readers to rpmfusion.org, for the following reason: There are a number of third-party software repositories for Fedora that provide software packages that Fedora excludes for various reasons. These software repositories are not officially affiliated or endorsed by the Fedora Project. Use them at your own discretion. are you seriously suggesting that it would now be legally problematic to go here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec and add a line reading nothing more than: you might want to read this page over here (linking to that first page). that strikes me as hair-splitting of the finest kind, and i can't believe that a half-competent lawyer couldn't figure out a way to do that. Yes...I am suggesting that it would be legally problematic for fedora to tell the users for each and every very *explicit* problem they are having to *explicitly* go to some place to find software to install to violate the law. The notice about other repositories is general and not saying it solves a *explicit/specific* problem. I am also pretty sure that your approach would have been talked about by the legal team of Red Hat and rejected for just that reason. This would be an endless debate on this list...that has been endlessly debated on this list in various forms for a long time. Yet the bottom line is...it was a legal decision that was made by folks who could end up being defendants in any suit. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Screenshot Tutorial: How to D-I-Y your own Google Chrome OS with Xen-based Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala amd64 Virtual Machine in Fedora 11 x86_64 Pv-Ops Dom0
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Filesize: 697.38MB Type: VMware VMDK image file MD5 Checksum: 1aec57157dd2083b166e493c0e831a 67 Download link: http://www.zshare.net/download/68819648ff817281/ FYI, this download always terminates after ~237Kat least attempting to download from Taiwan. Hi, Do you know where would be a good and fast file sharing site I could upload to? The Google Chrome OS image that I built is about 700 MB. Sorry, I don't. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Flash
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I did this on my CentOS 5 system since rtmpdump didn't compile under Fedora 11 and I didn't want to debug that. And I then played it using mplayer. Yes, I am a dummy I found the rpm for rtmpdump for f11 Where? I don't see it for F12. I also note that the author seems to have received a DMCA takedown notice, instigated by Adobe. FYI, it seems that rtmpdump has been succeeded by flvstreamer. I didn't search for an rpm since the tar just built. https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/flvstreamer/ It may not work for all streams since it is forked from rtmpdump v1.6 with encrypted rtmp and swf verification support removed. FWIW, I think this topic has been exhausted. -- I AM NOT THE NEW DALAI LAMA I AM NOT THE NEW DALAI LAMA I AM NOT THE NEW DALAI LAMA I AM NOT THE NEW DALAI LAMA Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 5F17 Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:39:44 -0500 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: You have run out of space before getting to the anaconda kernel and initrd. Check /boot for a preupgrade directory. It needs to copy a few things into it (like the anaconda kernel and initrd, but also a kickstart file, and some other things). If there is no room for the necessary items, you are out of luck. That's the problem. I'm 1.5mb short, according to preupgrade. Have you tried Germán's suggestion of removing unneeded F11 kernels? I have removed all but one F11 kernel (rpm -e kernel-whatever-whatever) so there's only one left. And as I said before, I don't see where I can remove anything else to gain that 1.5mb and still have a kernel that my computer can boot. The Achilles's heel of preupgrade is the amount of free space in your /boot partition. Indeed. I really don't get it, because I initially formatted that computer with the F10 rawhide a month or so before the F10 release. And I used the default disk partitioning that the installer suggested. Kinda ironic, since Can you resize your partitions such that /boot has more space? I have no idea how to do that. Again, I just used the default F10 partitioning scheme and it's seemed to be working fine up to this point. I may have to try this on a virtual machine. I've never used preupgrade beforeso I don't know exactly what it does... But, if it ends up installing the latest kernel and then booting to itone could try deleting the initrd file (or moving it to a safe place where you can restore it if needed) for the active kernel since it isn't being used once you are up Its a thoughtcertainly would like to test it on a snapshoted VM. :-) -- Loni Anderson's hair should be LEGALIZED!! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Flash
Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I've been had with this one. Since I found no file in /tmp, I assumed there would be no URL in the code of the page. This one, I believe, would be a better challenge: http://video.pbs.org/video/1082087546/ For these types of sites I've heard that you can try something like rtmpdump. FYI, I just now successfully downloaded the entire Bill Cosby piece with ./rtmpdump_x86 -r rtmp://203.77.184.132/a1863/o6/tp-live/PBS_CP_General_Audience/cosby-full-revised-CHN.mp4 -o outfile.mp4 I did this on my CentOS 5 system since rtmpdump didn't compile under Fedora 11 and I didn't want to debug that. And I then played it using mplayer. All of this I learned by using Google.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Flash
Ed Greshko wrote: I did this on my CentOS 5 system since rtmpdump didn't compile under Fedora 11 and I didn't want to debug that. And I then played it using mplayer. Yes, I am a dummy I found the rpm for rtmpdump for f11 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Flash
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I did this on my CentOS 5 system since rtmpdump didn't compile under Fedora 11 and I didn't want to debug that. And I then played it using mplayer. Yes, I am a dummy I found the rpm for rtmpdump for f11 Where? I don't see it for F12. I also note that the author seems to have received a DMCA takedown notice, instigated by Adobe. rpmfind rtmpdump But, it is not the latest version. It is 1.3 v.s. 1.6 -- Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goal. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
