Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Nina
Chris is right.  After each feeding, I used to take a warm, wrung wash cloth and "groom" each kitten the way mom would.  Don't be too vigorous with the elimination thing.  Mom does it with her tongue, sort of just getting them relaxed and things flowing.  Be careful not to chafe him.  I'm guess

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn
Bless you for giving him love in his short life.  He left knowing someone really cared.              If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pi

Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Good to see you back Patti.  I hope the memory thing works its way out (or back in) very soon.  It must be very frustrating.  I'm glad you are starting to feel better.   tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all!  Guess I overdid my computer time yesterday cause my one (still good) eye gave out. 

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Nina
I think that's a good idea Tonya. I'm so sad about our little tabby prince. I doubt you'll sleep soundly enough to cause the other one any harm. Tuck him up close under your chin, that way you won't roll over on him. I'll be thinking and praying tonight that he's still with us in the mornin

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn
Love them.  If they are meant to be in this world they will make it.  If they are meant to leave this world, let them do it loved and cared for.  It sounds like you are doing all you can do.  Others on the list can tell you more than I can.  May all the angels watch after you and the kitten

Re: groundhog

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn
If you do check with the various Humane Society websites on where you shot an animal.  There are various places on each animal that is more kind than others.  Quite literally a bullet will bounce off the skull of some, causing more pain.  Believe it or not, there are guidelines showing where

RE: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
The gray tabby has died.  The solid gray seems to be in good shape.  The kitten that died did poop several times which I took as a good sign.   The living gray kitten seems to be doing ok.  He will nurse, and he has urinated, but that's all so far.   I read on a website to massage the a

Re: groundhog

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Michelle,   I'm sorry about both of these losses.  I've been in similar circumstances with wildlife.  I'm actually considering getting a gun to put an animal out of its misery and I HATE guns.   t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
I think I'll go ahead and take the little one to bed with me at least a while tonight.  I don't want him to be by himself. :( tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would feed them more often than that esp since you fear that they were abandoned for a while.  Don't stress out if they refuse to eat ea

Re: Hayley

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Prayers on the way. Keep us posted.   tSherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi all Jen our vet is having her own personal dilemmas to deal with.She just sent an e-mail to us that her 8 1/2 year old retriever is critically ill and in bad shape.Problems breathing and getting anything past th

RE: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Chris
I have absolutely no experience with kittens that young but isn’t there also something about sort of ‘massaging’ their rear so that they eliminate—its something mom cat does…   Anything I’ve ever read about real young kittens suggests replicating what mother would do—she’d be nuzzled up

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Nina
I would feed them more often than that esp since you fear that they were abandoned for a while.  Don't stress out if they refuse to eat each time, but do offer it to them.  I'm so glad the one is seeming to feel better.  I can understand why they suggest not "over handling" them, but they are w

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread Nina
Why would you jump to the idea of a tumor on her spine??  It seems much more likely that she's injured herself somehow.  Is she putting any weight on it?  She's still eating, so that's a good sign.  Let me tell you a little story about spending yet another late night at the vet's, (the second

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
I had been carrying them around and keeping them warm inside my shirt, but one of the websites I read said that I should keep them away from all other cats because they may not have immunity from their mother.   I just don't know.  The other cats were in the vacated house.  One of these kittens w

Re: A few prayers of a sweet passing...

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Sheila,   I'm so sorry for your loss.   tonyaSheila Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:A few prayers of a sweet passing for "Joey's Little Sis" that I sadly had to help cross over to the Rainbow Bridge this evening. I pray myself for a better life for her there, than she had here on he

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread Nina
Hi Tonya, Not a good sign that these two kittens were separated from the mother and other babies.  You know what that could mean, they may be weak and she decided to let them go to try and save her energy and milk for the others.  It may also have meant she was in the process of moving them and

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
I didn't realize that's how it happened until I noticed him limping the next day or two and took him in.  The vet asked if he'd jumped down from something 'high' and I remembered chasing him off the entertainment center.   t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So you knew it was an injury.

Re: Check out Lyme Disease in Cats

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn
Love them.  If they are meant to be in this world they will make it.  If they are meant to leave this world, let them do it loved and cared for.  It sounds like you are doing all you can do.  Others on the list can tell you more than I can.  May all the angels watch after you and the kittens

Check out Lyme Disease in Cats

2006-07-16 Thread Lernermichelle
I decided to research Lyme in cats, since we have tons of deer ticks and my dog Chip once had sudden lameness from Lyme (though she also was very sick).  I had been told by a vet that cats don't seem to get Lyme, but this article says they do. Has anyone ever heard of a cat getting Lyme? Wond

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread Lernermichelle
So you knew it was an injury.  I didn't see Patches do anything. But she is rolly-polly and has always been a bit uncoordinated, so I suppose she may have. she just came out a few minutes ago when she heard me in the kitchen, and wanted some food, and then walked around a bit (limping terrib

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
It was a week or so.  I felt bad because I was chasing him off the top of a piece of furniture and he evidently landed wrong when he jumped down[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks, Tonya. I don't think anything is broken-- no swelling, she puts a little weight on it, and she lets me

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks, Tonya. I don't think anything is broken-- no swelling, she puts a little weight on it, and she lets me palpate it.  My worry is that there might be something other than an injury that can cause this. I did some internet research and it said some auto-immune disorders can do this, but

Re: Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Michelle,   I had this happen before and they told me unless there was a break there was nothing to be done except confine him (in my case) and give pain meds if it seemed necessary.  We didn't do that.  Unless you think something's broken I think Patches can wait till you get off if you can't go

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
thank you.  I just gave him some sugar water.  I hope that might help.   I was very careful, but I don't know if the 'drooling' means I aspirated... or he's got a uri or what.  :(  i'm going to take his temperature.  I have them in a bathroom with the vent closed and covered.  I have a h

Patches limping suddenly

2006-07-16 Thread Lernermichelle
This afternoon, after an active day running around outside and seeming fine, Patches suddenly started limping on her left hind leg. I felt it all over and could not feel anything. Shew was still walking, and going up and down stairs. When I pet her back, she tucked her tail a little.  Later the l

Re: anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread moonvine
I wouldn't have them euthanized just because they are little. I take in small kittens all the time. I don't use KMR. I use Fox Valley. They sell all kinds of milk for all kinds of animals. Better IMHO than KMR and cheaper. You have to mail order it though...I keep about a pound of the po

anyone got advice for me tonight? urgent!

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Hey guys,   long story short.. I am home with 2 (vet said 2-4... I say 2 tops) 2 day old kittens.   Of course it was sunday and i had to go to emergency vet. he said they seemed ok for the circumstances and told me to bottle feed and keep them warm.   that cost $100   I knew I s

Re: Suckers! Flashing light on all times at my home! LOL!

2006-07-16 Thread ETrent
Oh my goodness LOL  I laughed so hard reading about cats flying through the air my coffee almost went out my nose.  Thank you for this story.   Here's to all us 'suckers' - God bless us all.  :0)   elizabeth   In a message dated 7/16/2006 5:54:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hayley

2006-07-16 Thread ETrent
I am so sorry.   In a message dated 7/16/2006 3:44:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Poor Jen had to let poor Hayley go over the bridge yesterday.She was a beautiful black retriever.Jen said that her esophogus had quit working,she told us the big medical word fo

Suckers! Flashing light on all times at my home! LOL!

2006-07-16 Thread TatorBunz
In a message dated 7/15/2006 3:28:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elizabeth, Forgot to mention, I think ALL of us on his list have the same "SUCKER" sign. Patti You got that right on the nose! My husband says that all the time! I have been called "Tator's Home Rescue" by

Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-16 Thread catatonya
Well congratulations!  I love the name and would love for you to send me the link to the picturesl.  I'm sure you are loving it all.  I have pictures of my sister's cat having a snooze in the baby's bouncer. lol.   tLora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tonya,Hi sweetie! Yes, as a matter of fact I am!

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-16 Thread TatorBunz
Helene,     I'm so sorry about your Sam. This is so sad. You did the kindest thing for him, to let him go to the bridge. Your in my thoughts and prayers!   In a message dated 7/15/2006 12:06:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sam left me at 1:54 PM today. He was weak and na

Re: Hayley

2006-07-16 Thread Marylyn
Hayley sends Jen all the love possible and knows how very hard this was.  Blessings to both of them              If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compa

Hayley

2006-07-16 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Poor Jen had to let poor Hayley go over the bridge yesterday.She was a beautiful black retriever.Jen said that her esophogus had quit working,she told us the big medical word for what it was but I can't remember the name.Thanks for your prayers. Sherry Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Ph