Thank you, Lance, for taking the time to explain your vet's thoughts on this.
I will keep this in mind should we decide to try IR in the future.
I hope Ember is feeling better,
Beth
Last Spring, when Ember first tested positive for FeLV, I started
looking into treatment options. ImmunoRegulin
Taking Smokey to the vet to get ImmunoRegulin through
an IV is just not a good option for me. Smokey really
stresses out at the vet. He hisses and is just really
unpleasant. I have found that if they do everything
in the examination room where I can be with him he
does somewhat better. I will
Dharma had a couple of seizures last night it could
be from epogen, or dex shot, or from FIP I was reading about the treatment
and if underlying the cause of seizures is difficult to treat (which
can be the case with Dharma if FIP is causing it, it suggest as follows:
Phenobarbital
Treatment for seizures depends on the cause. I have an epileptic kitten (now 1 year old) who has been on phenobarbitol since January and it has worked very well. But the phenobarbitol has no effect on a cat with seizures due to dry FIP.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dharma had
Oof, that's tough, seizures are so hard to watch.Depending on the underlying cause of the seizures, there are different meds. Phenobarb is usually the first one reached for. Personally, when Ninja had seizures and the occurrance accelerated, all we knew was that she was FeLV+ and had a grade 3
Hi Sweetie,
Tell us more about the seizures. What exactly happened? My beloved
Vixen Roo Vincent, (Siberian Husky), had seizures from what we suspect
was a brain tumor. Her seizures were severe, she'd even loose her
sight momentarily afterward. We had her on Phenobarbital for the last
couple
OK, we gotta talk. What type of seizures, what frequency, what led to the vet suspecting meningioma? Connie has dramatic grand mal seizures but has been maintained successfully on phenobarbitol for about 10 months now. We ruled out FIV, FeLV, FIP, toxoplasmosis with blood work but have not done
Hi, Nina and everyone I just need
lots of emotional support right its really tough for different
reasons.
I just have to tell you how amazing my
little Dharma is she IS one tough cookie I have never met
anyone like her..
When I was feeding everyone.. she stood up
and came to where
Well there is no way that I am
going to find out what is causing her seizurers.. she has FIP.. so it could be
that.. or she is taking on epogen.. and I know it can cause it, too.. given
said.. what are the options? Nothing?
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Well, with hindsight, the first seizure she had was in December of 97:I wasdoing something with her(smearing a paw with hairball gunk or something) and she kinda tipped into my lap and wasyelling. The first bad seizure was about a month later, she was on a chair in the living room and stood up and
The "we gotta talk" was directed at Barb re meningioma. HoweverTo Hideyo: Dry FIP absolutely can cause neurological problems, including seizures. But how was FIP diagnosed? I know how hard it is to diagnose dry FIP while a cat is still living. What other possibilities have been looked at?
Its clinical and form lab results
low grade intermittent fever, hypergloubmia, anemia (neurological sign
(unevitis) on her eye.. I lost her sister Naomi to the same thing.. and also,
Peter who was 1.5 years old.. now Rikki is showing some similar symptoms (lost
weight, hypergloubmia,
I haveno experience with seizures. But, I asked a friend who lives in the UK about her kitty who has seizures and he gets something called Epiphen. The vet diagnosed him with a form of epilepsy and the medicine has helped him tremendously. Just wanted to let you know.Little Dharma and you are
Sounds rather different than Connie's seizures. We haven't checked for a tumor because of the cost and danger in trying to operate if a tumor is found. She has been well-controlled on the pheno. But she is living life like a little drunk.Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, with
Congratulations on Dharma's little miracle, Hideyo. I
hope that she continues to do better!
:)
Wendy
--- Hideyo Yamamoto
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Hi, everyone - thank you very much all your prayers
and positive thought
for my little Dharma --
Last night, from work, I called home and
That's interesting. I am told that epilepsy is rare in cats. I'll take a look at the Epiphen. I would love for Connie to have more normalcy in her life.Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I haveno experience with seizures. But, I asked a friend who lives in the UK about her kitty who has seizures
I completely agree with what you say about educating
people. Therein lies the answer.
:)
Wendy
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Well, that's one crappily run rescue, sounds more
like a group of people getting together to pull cats
from a kill shelter to save them, with
Has Tsunade been tested for hyperthyroidism? Vomiting
is a symptom of that. Vomiting causes dehydration;
make sure she is getting plenty of fluids even if you
have to give them to her sub-Q.
:)
Wendy
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Were necropsies performed on the ones who died? That is about the only way to be certain that a cat died of dry FIP.Some vets jump to the conclusion that they are seeing FIP, others refuse to see it. But you do need to consider differential diagnoses. From the Merck vet manual:
This is one reason why I wonder if there is something going on besides FIP. We've had a few cases of FIP this year and last but always in rescue kittens under one year of age. Usually it hits within a month of spay/neuter surgery or rehoming. Stress is a trigger. You've had a lot of cases of
Ah, wellEpiphen is simply a brand name for phenobarbitol. http://www.nichols-online.co.uk/html/canine_epilepsy_information.html#Treatment So no radical new treatment there.Gina, I would be interested in your friend's experiences. It is rare for a cat to be born with epilepsy so we are
Hideyo,
i can't remember did you have Naomi and Peter necropsied to confirm FIP?
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I always insist all treatments occur in the exam room with me present
(other than surgery, of course).
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Well, FIP is likely to run through certain genetically similar cats,
because it's a genetic fault that triggers it in cats, it's thought. So it's
entirely possible that your area has a very NON-diverse breeding cat population,
and so most of the rescues you get are from the same bloodlines.
I'm the same waythere have been times I've
stayed thru surgeries too. I was there when Mai Mai had a liver biopsy and
all sorts of other "procedures." It makes me very nervous when a vet does
not want you around (assuming you are not hysterical or prone to faint at the
sight of blood).
>From a rescue standpoint that doesn't come up that often. Usually you get cats from an array of geographical areas. If you're working on specific feral colonies or do purebreed rescue and get breeder dumps, you may see it but with shelter pulls you don't see closely related cats except for a
I know.. I have been rescuing cats for 7
years and never had the problem until just now recently.. and obviously I am so
disturbed by this and feeling guilty so much.
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No, it was never confirmed.
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Hideyo,
i can't remember did you have Naomi
Just backing up Susan, she's absolutely correct, it's impossible to
diagnose FIP on a LIVING cat. You can hypothesize, but there's no sure
diagnosis. Here are some excerpts from a few various websites that gives a good
basic overview on diagnosing FIP, and the link to genetic factors:
FIP
Actually, my vet never really believed
Naomi or Peter had FIP until they died I was the only one who thought
that they did symptoms were so vague and my doctor thought that Naomi
had a late start to grow.. and then, Naomis right eyes started
showing neurological symptoms and did not know
I was under the impression most of Hideyo's rescues are from the local
stray/feral population the surrounds her home. It seems I recall her mentioning
how many ferals and strays she takes in from just outside her home. (I think it
was, maybe that's been resolved now though?) Hideyo, are
Then don't lock onto a diagnosis of FIP. Look for what else it might be. If you assume it's FIP then it's pretty much over and you can miss other treatable illnesses with similar symptoms.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it was never confirmed.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL
Don't be so sure. Last year, I thought I could tell. But I was (thankfully) wrong a couple of times, actually adopted one kitten ouot as a special needs kitten because I was so sure he was an FIP kitten. And there have been others where even in retrospect I would never have expected them to
Speaking of toxins and common factors... I once had akitten get into
the foundation (box spring) of an old mattress set I had in an extra room. The
stuffing was toxic to some extent, anyways, he lived, but just goes to show,
toxins are all around us.
(he was unconscious when I found him, he
Susan, I and my vet looked desperately for
all other causes of what happened to them like I said.. my vet was so
sure that my Naomi did not have FIP..
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As I type this the Vet's office has gotten the letter of
request.
My daughter delivered by hand and in person to make sure they
did get it.
They can't say they didn't get any letter from me.
She would be my witness.
Hopefully, they will follow through if not sh+t will hit the
pan.
In
I mean expensive. lol. I'll get out some bills and post them to you when I get a chance. twendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean expensive or extensive?! lol...Send it to me; I'm compiling today but don't have muchto compile just yet.:)Wendy--- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Is anyone
At 05:51 PM 11/1/2006, you wrote:
More Price information
One of my vets charges 89 for a Jr. Wellness Panel but 30 for an
exam. Combo is 30 something,
Another vet charges 59 for the Panel but 45 for the exam, Her combo test
is 59
senior panel is 165.00
I mean expensive. lol.
I'll get out some
I have to agree with this, many cats die usually because a vet say's
they have FIP and no other possibly treatable disease is checked into.
There are several diseases that mimic FIP in symptoms, it would only be
beneficial to make sure it isn't one of these, you have nothing to lose
and
Kris,I'm so sorry for your loss of Luna. I'm glad you've got little Gabriel now.tSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kris that was such a sweet thing for your students to do.So sorry about Luna.Give Gabriel a scritch on the cheek for me. :) Sherry and her big fluff balls of love.
I had Giardia when I was 7 yrs old. I think that it originates from Beavers
Urine. My Dad had it and was in hospital for 5 weeks lost a lot of weight. I got
it from swimming in a lake.
Kayte and Crackers
Ember may or may not have a UTI. She's been peeing in one of the
sinks in our rooms for a few weeks, but will also pee in her litter
box. When the vet tried to get a sample from her yesterday, there was
nothing to get. He sent some non-absorbant plastic litter home with
us. I put the
Excellent idea phawyren! I will donate all my sons old blankies he has and
I love to croqet...I will make blankies and donate them. I love how your
vet had little cofifns for the past pets. It is sad that they wrapped poor
Dukee in a Science Diet box. Great idea about the blankies. Thanks
Ember could also have bladder/kidney stones or crystals. They are difficult
to test for in part because of size. Can you get Ember to drink lots of
fluids? Chicken, tuna, whatever juice/broth? Canned food that has been
watered down? You may need to confine her to a small cage with a litter
With symptoms that she has -- there is nothing else we can come up with
-- I would love it if anyone else can --
What I would like everyone to know is that I, more than anyone else in
the world, Dharma not to have (or Naomi and Peter for that matter) FIP
-- and, had researched all other
Hi, has anyone have any experience in treating your cats
with CNS/neological problems? Would acupuncture be helpful..
I am asking as if there is any way to treat symptoms when
underlying cause is difficult to treat.. thank you.
Could you summarize the symptoms? Was there a test for toxoplasmosis? That looks a lot like dry FIP, including seizures.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With symptoms that she has -- there is nothing else we can come up with-- I would love it if anyone else can -- What I would like
Hi, my name is Dharma I am a little calico kitty
with three paws and here is my story
Once upon a time, there is a family Naomi, Dharma
(me), and Simba and our mama we were only about 6-7 weeks old then, our
mama kept us safe in a tiny hole under the crawl space of an abandoned
Hideyo,
What a beautiful story you wrote about
your furangels.
I'm so sorry to read about Dharma. I'm glad she was with you
when she left to join her siblings at the bridge. She loved you to hang out so
long...bless her sweet soul.
Geez, just when my eyes were starting to get better from
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