Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-24 Thread Nina
Michelle, As Tonya said, I think the amount of food you describe, while not hardy, is enough that I wouldn't be too terribly concerned. She is eating and that's good. The behavior you describe, going through different flavors until you hit just the right one, was so reminiscent of what I've g

Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-24 Thread Carla Shoppe
Hi Michelle, When my was anemic and wouldn't eat I tried raw she really didnt like it most of my cats do not some do. My homepathic vet told me that I should not feed raw to a fiv/felv cat. That it's better to blanch it and feed semi raw. Now I know some vets say yes and some say no. Depending

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
I know, I have thought of that. But if I give her something that she actually wants to eat, she eats it and does not cover it.  If I cater to her and keep opening things until I hit what she wants, she covers everything up until I hit the right thing and then digs into that one.  The fact th

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now-covering food

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
Yes, I have some that do it for something 'good' they want to hide, and sometimes for something 'bad' like a hairball or peeing on the rug...  You just never know!  My latest cat, Mama Kitty, the one who had lived with the ferals, had 2 or 3 litters, and had her stomach 'skinned'...

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now You should see the way that Ginger scratches and paws next to any food she does not feel like eating, as if to say it is so repulsive she can not bear seeing it and would I PLEASE dispose of i

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
You should see the way that Ginger scratches and paws next to any food she does not feel like eating, as if to say it is so repulsive she can not bear seeing it and would I PLEASE dispose of it and give her something edible.  Ginger stayed at my mom's for a month when we were moving (I had b

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Ah, I wish I could drink taquila, but I have gastritis (raw stomach lining) and so can not drink any alcohol.  Would be nice though!  (th

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
That's good to know! Thanks!   In a message dated 1/23/2006 7:53:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EVO is a lot more concentrated and filling (according to Kitty) than a lot of other foods.  

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
a.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Ah, I wish I could drink taquila, but I have gastritis (raw stomach lining) and so can not drink any alcohol.  Would be nice though!  (though i think taquila tastes horrible, act

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
t. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now I actually did try sauteeing it in some water and giving her the broth. She has liked that the past few

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
Ah, I wish I could drink taquila, but I have gastritis (raw stomach lining) and so can not drink any alcohol.  Would be nice though!  (though i think taquila tastes horrible, actually!)   Lucy never eats as much as the other cats.  But when she was eating the raw food she ate about 4 bowls f

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
No. I have thought of it, but would have to take her to vet to get it.  I am in-between vets with her right now-- the one I was using basically did not want to treat her anymore until I get her an endoscapy (scope of her intestines) which I did not want to do at this point.  I switched Quin

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
I actually did try sauteeing it in some water and giving her the broth. She has liked that the past few weeks but would not touch it today.  But I think there may be something wrong with this batch of turkey as it was less red than the last batches.   I had not thought to add salt. That is a

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
I don't know Michelle.  Most of my cats are on the rather 'plump' side, and they don't eat that much.  Are you sure she normally eats lots more than this, or are you just maybe paying more attention to what she's eating since she's been sick?  A jar of baby food, a spoon of wet food, and even two s

RE: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
AIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Thanks for the long post, Nina.  Lucy now will not eat the EVO or the canned food. She ate some baby food, probably half a jar. Just to see if

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
AIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Thanks for the long post, Nina.  Lucy now will not eat the EVO or the canned food. She ate some baby food, probably half a jar. Just to see if

RE: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:36 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Thanks for the long post, Nina.  Lucy now will not eat the EVO or the canned food. She ate some baby food, probably half a jar. Just to see if it

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks for the long post, Nina.  Lucy now will not eat the EVO or the canned food. She ate some baby food, probably half a jar. Just to see if it is pickiness or nausea, I offered her two pieces of a dry food she used to eat, and she did eat them right away. I am afraid to give her more of t

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
It depends on how much she ate.  If she's had enough to eat there would have been time for her to get sick.  If you're feeding her sparingly it might take a little longer.  An overful stomach can lead to diarrhea and/or vomiting just by itself..  That's why I would err on the side of cautio

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
Michelle,   If I were you I would offer what she'll take, but try mixing in little bits of what you want her to eat that she's not eating.  I don't think there's been enough time for it to make her sick yet if it's going to.  For that reason I'd keep giving her small amounts at a time.  I wouldn'

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread catatonya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy had loose stool for over 2 months, which was helped by pred but only went away completely on a raw diet. She then got constipated this week, about 3 or 4 weeks into the raw diet.  I gave her olive oil, which helped. But now she is refusing to eat her turkey diet,

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Nina
Hi Michelle, As with Lucy, the only thing that helped Gypsy regain formed stools was a raw diet.  When Lucy was having elimination problems, I was going to suggest switching from TC Instincts to adding your own sups, that way you have more control monitoring whatever may be causing the constipa

RE: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
posted with the progress.   Hideyo   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Lucy-- refusing raw food now   Lucy had loose stool for over 2

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Gloria Lane
Can she eat cooked turkey? Try the turkey and cooked rice (a subset of Dr. Pitcairn's diet for diarrhea). Gloria On Jan 23, 2006, at 8:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy actually does really well with turkey, which is why I picked turkey for her raw diet. She does not do as well with o

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
- refusing raw food now Lucy actually does really well with turkey, which is why I picked turkey for her raw diet.  She does not do as well with other meats.  She is not doing badly from the turkey diet either, just decided she is through with it and won't touch it now.  

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
Lucy actually does really well with turkey, which is why I picked turkey for her raw diet.  She does not do as well with other meats.  She is not doing badly from the turkey diet either, just decided she is through with it and won't touch it now.   I am glad your cat does so well on EVO.  It

Re: Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Marylyn
ellow man.  St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Lucy-- refusing raw food now Lucy

Lucy-- refusing raw food now

2006-01-23 Thread Lernermichelle
Lucy had loose stool for over 2 months, which was helped by pred but only went away completely on a raw diet. She then got constipated this week, about 3 or 4 weeks into the raw diet.  I gave her olive oil, which helped. But now she is refusing to eat her turkey diet, raw or cooked.  She seem