date:20060328

Wow Nina!  I just finished following the thread on
Tux-Hooray he is home safe!!!  I am going to put
all of that wonderful info. on looking for lost
kitties in the sick kitty manual.  It's GREAT info!  I
am so glad he was found safely!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you everyone for your help and prayers! 
 Yesterday I went over to 
 my sister's to help her implement all your wonderful
 suggestions, 
 (another one we got off-list was to spray my
 sister's urine around the 
 perimeter of the house!).  I began combing my
 sister's yard, and her 
 adjacent neighbor's yards armed with cat kibble to
 shake.  Connie was 
 anxious to distribute fliers and knock on doors so
 she interrupted me to 
 join her in that.  Now of course I wish I had
 continued, but she was so 
 upset and thought the way to get Tux back was to
 enlist the help of 
 other humans.  I agree, but I think your good
 thoughts and the help of 
 ACs was even more valuable, (thank you Hideyo for
 all the contacts).  
 Anyway, as I was driving home, my sister called me
 to tell me Tux had 
 been found!!!  I was so relieved I burst into tears.
  We had confined 
 her other cat to Connie's bedroom and opened most of
 the doors and 
 windows in case Tux found his way home.  When she
 opened her bedroom 
 door, Sam scooted out and Connie dashed around in a
 panic shutting the 
 house back up, (poor Connie!).  When everything was
 quiet again, she 
 heard a little meow.  She looked over at Sam playing
 quietly and 
 listened intently.  Again the little meow.  She
 followed it to the 
 attached garage door, and there was little Tux! 
 Dirty, hungry, and very 
 relieved.  He'd been hiding in the garage for 3
 days.  She said they 
 must have checked the garage 10 times, but the
 little stinker is an 
 excellent hider.  What we got from the ACers made
 sense too.  It was 
 mighty dark in there, (thank you Marylyn), and there
 was old lumber and 
 concrete that he very well could have been hiding
 under, (thank you Mary 
 and Marylyn!). 
 
 Hooray!  It's so nice to have a happy ending.  What
 would I do without 
 all of you!
 Nina
 
 
 


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Re: Add Tad to the CLS

Gloria,

I'm sorry to hear about Tad.  Poor baby.  

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was hard on him to lose Tad, and hard for me too
 - I was so angry 
 and sad and all that.  Just hope that they've
 learned something about 
 taking care of cats. We buried Tad this afternoon,
 in a lovely place, 
 with stones on top, I got out a nice old pillow case
 with pretty 
 embroidery. Sigh.
 
 Gloria
 
 At 06:02 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
 I'm sorry to hear about this, too. Anything that
 can be prevented by
 something as simple as keeping the cat indoors
 makes it hard to
 handle. As you said, Tad did have a long life.
 That's something to be
 happy about, though he should have had more time. I
 hope your friend
 is hanging in there. I know how hard it is.
 Speaking for myself, and
 probably many others on this list, our cats are our
 kids. Take care
 of your friend and yourself.
 
 
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Re: Maizee Grace

Hey Sherry,

I am sorry you are having a tough time missing your
Maizee Grace recently.  How are you feeling today?

:)
Wendy

--- Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am
 having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This
 happens every so often but not as much as it used
 to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has
 been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so
 much. I have had many cats in my life come and
 go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much for
 this long.If it were not for you wonderful caring
 people, I don't know how I would have made it
 through the toughest times.sorry to unload this
 sadness onto you,I just knew you would understand.
 Thanks
   Sherry
 
   
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Re: Ember

Lance,

Your Ember looks just like my Cricket and the new
kitten I just adopted yesterday!  She's precious!!! 
Here are pics of my Cricket:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/stefffi_c/album?.dir=/78ab.src=ph.tok=phta56DBby6d5vYY

:)
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Fwd: RE: CHAT: We are looking for a Feline Leukemia Cat

OK Folks, do you know of any FELV cats needing home in the vicinity 
of Oklahoma City?  Great opportunity for some lucky FELV cat -  if 
so, email Cheryl at [EMAIL PROTECTED],


Gloria



Subject: RE: CHAT: We are looking for a Feline Leukemia Cat
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:57:47 -0600

To: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-

Cheryl with Forever Friends 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, you read correctly! We are actually looking for a cat that is 
positive for FELV, Feline Leukeima Virus. The cat needs to be in 
good health and not old.


We had adopted out a FeLV cat to a wonderful lady, as a companion 
to her elderly FeLV cat. Well the elderly one has now passed away, 
so the lady is looking for a companion for the one left.


Let me know if you have one, I think she prefers a girl, and I will 
forward your information.


I know Teri is going to check on Spicey at PP, but we think she is 
FIV not FeLV.


So let me know!

Thanks,
Cheryl
FFHS

Re: RE: CHAT: We are looking for a Feline Leukemia Cat

2006-03-28 Thread TenHouseCats

if a kitty can be found, let me know if transport is necessary--i have contacts for both land and air!
On 3/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK Folks, do you know of any FELV cats needing home in the vicinityof Oklahoma City?Great opportunity for some lucky FELV cat -if
so, email Cheryl at [EMAIL PROTECTED],GloriaSubject: RE: CHAT: We are looking for a Feline Leukemia CatDate: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:57:47 -0600
To: Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-Cheryl with Forever Friendsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes, you read correctly! We are actually looking for a cat that ispositive for FELV, Feline Leukeima Virus. The cat needs to be ingood health and not old.
We had adopted out a FeLV cat to a wonderful lady, as a companionto her elderly FeLV cat. Well the elderly one has now passed away,so the lady is looking for a companion for the one left.
Let me know if you have one, I think she prefers a girl, and I willforward your information.I know Teri is going to check on Spicey at PP, but we think she is
FIV not FeLV.So let me know!Thanks,CherylFFHS-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
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Re: Maizee Grace

2006-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Hi Wendy,still a bit blah but better.I visited with my Sanctuary fur kids last night so that helped a bit,except I didn't get to see sweet Demetri before he went to the clinic.   THanks for asking  Sherrywendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Sherry,I am sorry you are having a tough time missing yourMaizee Grace recently. How are you feeling today?:)Wendy--- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi all,I just needed to tell someone that I am having a really bad missing my baby girl cry.This happens every so often but not as much as it used to.I knew EVERYONE here would understand. She has been gone almost 5 months and it still hurts so much. I have had many cats in my life come and go,but I don't ever remember hurting this much
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OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Hi guys,

Well, my husband and I have finally decided to remove
the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten so
bad that it actually is showing stains, which usually
only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
it.  The house does not smell good and we are
embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly the
problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home Depot
or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully, we
can get a much better deal than that.  After we remove
the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
to smell the urine even after the new floors are
installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to talk
my husband into this type of flooring, because he
wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
carpet, but we're not going to go there again.  Does
anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
regarding this new excursion we're about to embark on?
 Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there a
particular flooring that does best if exposed to kitty
urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going on
the new flooring?  

Thanks so much!
:)
Wendy

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RE: a new place for my ginger and tsubomi

very cool Hideyo!!!  i dream about a cat sanctuary one
day too!

:)
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, everyone, I just wanted to share about a new
 place for my two felk
 babies - as some of may recall, they are in the very
 small area due to
 the space constraint in my house and every time, I
 see them, I feel so
 badly and guilty and not being able to give them a
 bigger place - so I
 thought and though for several months and found a
 way to give them a bit
 more space.. I cut one of the bedroom in half - I
 hired someone and
 created a divider in the room with plexi glass and
 screen so that they
 can see the other side of the room and they can also
 get air in the room
 - so now, the new space is connected to the room
 (bathroom they were
 originally in) so they have twice as much as the
 space they were in
 before.  I also put a big cat condo/tower so that
 they can climb up and
 downs and see the view from a new window (they also
 have one window and
 cat condo in the original space, too) --- Tsubomi is
 more outgoing.. so
 she has been climbing up and downs since yesterday,
 and she also can see
 other kitties and me all the time, through the
 screen and plexi glass as
 the room is facing to the hallway and the room where
 a lot of other
 kitties hang out...  On the other hand, ginger is
 freaked out because of
 the noise from building stuff yesterday and the fact
 that now there is
 new space.. she has been hiding since yesterday. I
 am praying that she
 will come out and start playing in a new room with
 Tsubomi -
 
  
 
 This is sort of stuff that just satisfies me - but I
 wanted to share
 because this is something that I wanted to do for
 such a long time ever
 since I got ginger a year and half ago and now my
 dream sort of came
 true...
 
  
 
  
 
 Love to all your kitties.
 
  
 
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OT: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like Cricket

Hi guys,

Well, I finally went back to the shelter yesterday
morning, while my dogs were being snip-snipped at the
vets, and adopted that little black kitty that stole
my heart weekend before last.  I haven't named her
yet, but she is precious.  When I first met her, and
subsequently thought about her all week, I knew she
was black like Cricket, but didn't realize how much
she favored Cricket until I got her home and spent the
day with her.  Her face is shaped the same.  She has
the same soft fur and long, fluffy black tail, and is
just shaped the same as he was.  It's REALLY weird. 
Even my husband said something about it.  The vet said
she's about six months old, but I'm not so sure she's
that old.  Cricket died five months ago this Thursday.
 I'm not saying that this is Cricket reincarnated,
because it's so hard for me to wrap my mind around
something like that, but I'm not saying it's not
either.  

This kitty is such a love and will bless our home.  I
noticed she has tapeworms yesterday, so I gave her a
quarter pill of those pills you can get from the feed
store for dog tapeworms.  That's what I usually use,
and had some left over from last year.  Otherwise, she
seems very healthy, and gets along as if she has both
her eyes instead of one.  I have to get her shots and
get her spayed in a month, so I will probably have her
tested for FeLV at that time as well.  But I'm sure
there are many of you out there who understand me when
I say part of me just wants to forgo that FeLV test,
and not know if she is, you know?  Ignorance is bliss.
 I guess that would be irresponsible though, as she
would need special care, although all my kitties eat
healthy and get their vitamins.

Anyway, I am very happy about this new addition to our
home, and I just wanted to share it with you guys, who
can appreciate it the most.

Thanks for listening!
:)
Wendy

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Re: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

First find OdoBan and really clean the carpet that is down.  Use 2-3 times 
the strength recommended.  When you do take the carpet up, do the same to 
the concrete.  This stuff will take the odor out of anything.  Someone threw 
a dead ?? in my trash can that stayed there, in water, for several 
weeks.  Couldn't even figure out what the poor animal was by the time I 
discovered it.  I poured a lot of this stuff into the can and it handled the 
smell.  It handles the smell of an angry cat spraying too.  It is that good. 
I know you can get it at Sam's Club.  I don't know about other places but it 
is on the internet.


Second consider using a sealed ceramic tile over electric radiant heat. 
That was not an option for me at one point so I painted the concrete.  With 
a couple of washable throw rugs it did nicely.  You can do any type of 
design you like.  But stay away from carpet.  When you take it up you will 
find out how nasty it is.  The padding turns to dust.









If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine



Hi guys,

Well, my husband and I have finally decided to remove
the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten so
bad that it actually is showing stains, which usually
only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
it.  The house does not smell good and we are
embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly the
problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home Depot
or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully, we
can get a much better deal than that.  After we remove
the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
to smell the urine even after the new floors are
installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to talk
my husband into this type of flooring, because he
wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
carpet, but we're not going to go there again.  Does
anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
regarding this new excursion we're about to embark on?
Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there a
particular flooring that does best if exposed to kitty
urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going on
the new flooring?

Thanks so much!
:)
Wendy

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Re: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like Cricket

This one trips me out but, according to friends who know a lot more about 
reincarnation that I, little ones can come back and literally take over the 
body of another little one.  Especially at that age.  Seems like some how 
they make a deal.  I want to be in this plan and you really don't.  Let me 
have this body and you can find something you like better.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: OT: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like Cricket



Hi guys,

Well, I finally went back to the shelter yesterday
morning, while my dogs were being snip-snipped at the
vets, and adopted that little black kitty that stole
my heart weekend before last.  I haven't named her
yet, but she is precious.  When I first met her, and
subsequently thought about her all week, I knew she
was black like Cricket, but didn't realize how much
she favored Cricket until I got her home and spent the
day with her.  Her face is shaped the same.  She has
the same soft fur and long, fluffy black tail, and is
just shaped the same as he was.  It's REALLY weird.
Even my husband said something about it.  The vet said
she's about six months old, but I'm not so sure she's
that old.  Cricket died five months ago this Thursday.
I'm not saying that this is Cricket reincarnated,
because it's so hard for me to wrap my mind around
something like that, but I'm not saying it's not
either.

This kitty is such a love and will bless our home.  I
noticed she has tapeworms yesterday, so I gave her a
quarter pill of those pills you can get from the feed
store for dog tapeworms.  That's what I usually use,
and had some left over from last year.  Otherwise, she
seems very healthy, and gets along as if she has both
her eyes instead of one.  I have to get her shots and
get her spayed in a month, so I will probably have her
tested for FeLV at that time as well.  But I'm sure
there are many of you out there who understand me when
I say part of me just wants to forgo that FeLV test,
and not know if she is, you know?  Ignorance is bliss.
I guess that would be irresponsible though, as she
would need special care, although all my kitties eat
healthy and get their vitamins.

Anyway, I am very happy about this new addition to our
home, and I just wanted to share it with you guys, who
can appreciate it the most.

Thanks for listening!
:)
Wendy

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RE: Add Tad to the CLS

2006-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

Gloria, I am very sorry to hear about Tad - I pictured you burying Tad
and that made me cry ---Please know that Tad knows how much you care
about him and everyone on the list also does care about Tad---he is at a
better place now and I am sure that he knows how much you care about
him. Love to you and Tad,

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Add Tad to the CLS

Gloria,

I'm sorry to hear about Tad.  Poor baby.  

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was hard on him to lose Tad, and hard for me too
 - I was so angry 
 and sad and all that.  Just hope that they've
 learned something about 
 taking care of cats. We buried Tad this afternoon,
 in a lovely place, 
 with stones on top, I got out a nice old pillow case
 with pretty 
 embroidery. Sigh.
 
 Gloria
 
 At 06:02 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
 I'm sorry to hear about this, too. Anything that
 can be prevented by
 something as simple as keeping the cat indoors
 makes it hard to
 handle. As you said, Tad did have a long life.
 That's something to be
 happy about, though he should have had more time. I
 hope your friend
 is hanging in there. I know how hard it is.
 Speaking for myself, and
 probably many others on this list, our cats are our
 kids. Take care
 of your friend and yourself.
 
 
 Lance
 
 
 
 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Sheila208

Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and living room two years ago with very expensive wood laminate and I have been miserable ever since. It looks great when you first put it down, but you can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have an accident you have to get it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a mess during the night or when you are away from home and can't get to it right away you are gonna have big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams have buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a lot of research and it looks like tile is the best solution for us pet lovers. Sheila

Re: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

What the heck is electric radiant heat?

Thanks,
:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First find OdoBan and really clean the carpet that
 is down.  Use 2-3 times 
 the strength recommended.  When you do take the
 carpet up, do the same to 
 the concrete.  This stuff will take the odor out of
 anything.  Someone threw 
 a dead ?? in my trash can that stayed there, in
 water, for several 
 weeks.  Couldn't even figure out what the poor
 animal was by the time I 
 discovered it.  I poured a lot of this stuff into
 the can and it handled the 
 smell.  It handles the smell of an angry cat
 spraying too.  It is that good. 
 I know you can get it at Sam's Club.  I don't know
 about other places but it 
 is on the internet.
 
 Second consider using a sealed ceramic tile over
 electric radiant heat. 
 That was not an option for me at one point so I
 painted the concrete.  With 
 a couple of washable throw rugs it did nicely.  You
 can do any type of 
 design you like.  But stay away from carpet.  When
 you take it up you will 
 find out how nasty it is.  The padding turns to
 dust.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:38 AM
 Subject: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine
 
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Well, my husband and I have finally decided to
 remove
  the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
  room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten
 so
  bad that it actually is showing stains, which
 usually
  only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating
 on
  it.  The house does not smell good and we are
  embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly
 the
  problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
  hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until
 2
  years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
  flooring, which looks like it will cost around
 $3000
  installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home
 Depot
  or any of the local floor stores yet, so
 hopefully, we
  can get a much better deal than that.  After we
 remove
  the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
  we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
  concrete is porous and the kittys will still be
 able
  to smell the urine even after the new floors are
  installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to
 talk
  my husband into this type of flooring, because he
  wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold
 on
  my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
  carpet, but we're not going to go there again. 
 Does
  anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
  regarding this new excursion we're about to embark
 on?
  Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
  your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there
 a
  particular flooring that does best if exposed to
 kitty
  urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from
 going on
  the new flooring?
 
  Thanks so much!
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Wow Sheila,

I am so glad you posted back to me.  It looks like we
are either going to have to go to real hard woods, or
tile.  My husband LOVES the tile, but I just don't
like it.  I guess I can learn to like it.  What about
urine on hard woods?  

Thanks,
:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and
 living room two years ago with 
 very expensive wood laminate and I have been
 miserable ever since. It looks 
 great when you first put it down, but you can't let
 the kitties pee on it or 
 mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have
 an accident you have to get 
 it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a
 mess during the night or 
 when you are away from home and can't get to it
 right away you are gonna have 
 big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach
 to feel like it was clean 
 and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams
 have buckled and the laminate 
 is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby
 is right. I have done a 
 lot of research and it looks like tile is the best
 solution for us pet lovers.  
 Sheila
 


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Re: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like Cricket

Now that would be uncanny...

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This one trips me out but, according to friends who
 know a lot more about 
 reincarnation that I, little ones can come back and
 literally take over the 
 body of another little one.  Especially at that age.
  Seems like some how 
 they make a deal.  I want to be in this plan and you
 really don't.  Let me 
 have this body and you can find something you like
 better.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  If
 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
  St. 
 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:54 AM
 Subject: OT: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like
 Cricket
 
 
  Hi guys,
 
  Well, I finally went back to the shelter yesterday
  morning, while my dogs were being snip-snipped at
 the
  vets, and adopted that little black kitty that
 stole
  my heart weekend before last.  I haven't named her
  yet, but she is precious.  When I first met her,
 and
  subsequently thought about her all week, I knew
 she
  was black like Cricket, but didn't realize how
 much
  she favored Cricket until I got her home and spent
 the
  day with her.  Her face is shaped the same.  She
 has
  the same soft fur and long, fluffy black tail, and
 is
  just shaped the same as he was.  It's REALLY
 weird.
  Even my husband said something about it.  The vet
 said
  she's about six months old, but I'm not so sure
 she's
  that old.  Cricket died five months ago this
 Thursday.
  I'm not saying that this is Cricket reincarnated,
  because it's so hard for me to wrap my mind around
  something like that, but I'm not saying it's not
  either.
 
  This kitty is such a love and will bless our home.
  I
  noticed she has tapeworms yesterday, so I gave her
 a
  quarter pill of those pills you can get from the
 feed
  store for dog tapeworms.  That's what I usually
 use,
  and had some left over from last year.  Otherwise,
 she
  seems very healthy, and gets along as if she has
 both
  her eyes instead of one.  I have to get her shots
 and
  get her spayed in a month, so I will probably have
 her
  tested for FeLV at that time as well.  But I'm
 sure
  there are many of you out there who understand me
 when
  I say part of me just wants to forgo that FeLV
 test,
  and not know if she is, you know?  Ignorance is
 bliss.
  I guess that would be irresponsible though, as she
  would need special care, although all my kitties
 eat
  healthy and get their vitamins.
 
  Anyway, I am very happy about this new addition to
 our
  home, and I just wanted to share it with you guys,
 who
  can appreciate it the most.
 
  Thanks for listening!
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Re: OT: I adopted a new kitty; looks just like Cricket

2006-03-28 Thread cindy reasoner

Congratulations on your new addition!  It is so much
fun to get a new baby and get to know their little
personality.

Cindy

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 Well, I finally went back to the shelter yesterday
 morning, while my dogs were being snip-snipped at
 the
 vets, and adopted that little black kitty that stole
 my heart weekend before last.  I haven't named her
 yet, but she is precious.  When I first met her, and
 subsequently thought about her all week, I knew she
 was black like Cricket, but didn't realize how much
 she favored Cricket until I got her home and spent
 the
 day with her.  Her face is shaped the same.  She has
 the same soft fur and long, fluffy black tail, and
 is
 just shaped the same as he was.  It's REALLY weird. 
 Even my husband said something about it.  The vet
 said
 she's about six months old, but I'm not so sure
 she's
 that old.  Cricket died five months ago this
 Thursday.
  I'm not saying that this is Cricket reincarnated,
 because it's so hard for me to wrap my mind around
 something like that, but I'm not saying it's not
 either.  
 
 This kitty is such a love and will bless our home. 
 I
 noticed she has tapeworms yesterday, so I gave her a
 quarter pill of those pills you can get from the
 feed
 store for dog tapeworms.  That's what I usually use,
 and had some left over from last year.  Otherwise,
 she
 seems very healthy, and gets along as if she has
 both
 her eyes instead of one.  I have to get her shots
 and
 get her spayed in a month, so I will probably have
 her
 tested for FeLV at that time as well.  But I'm sure
 there are many of you out there who understand me
 when
 I say part of me just wants to forgo that FeLV test,
 and not know if she is, you know?  Ignorance is
 bliss.
  I guess that would be irresponsible though, as she
 would need special care, although all my kitties eat
 healthy and get their vitamins.
 
 Anyway, I am very happy about this new addition to
 our
 home, and I just wanted to share it with you guys,
 who
 can appreciate it the most.
 
 Thanks for listening!
 :)
 Wendy
 
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Sheila208

 I have asked the people at lowes about hard would. They said that real wood would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out anything different please let me know. I would love to have wood floors, but I would think that the kitties might use them for scratching and I have to mop with soap and bleach everyday. Sheila

Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread PEC2851




Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs = VERY EXPENSIVE NIGHTMARE!!!

Take my advice, save the $$$'s  frustration, go with tile. You 
can always put down "washable" throw rugs..
Scratches, urine, forget it. You'll be heartbroken. (I had 
HORRENDOUS scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!!) UghBig 
mistake.

Patti

RE: Add Tad to the CLS


Thanks so much Hideyo, I appreciate that - Gloria

At 12:12 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:

Gloria, I am very sorry to hear about Tad - I pictured you burying Tad
and that made me cry ---Please know that Tad knows how much you care
about him and everyone on the list also does care about Tad---he is at a
better place now and I am sure that he knows how much you care about
him. Love to you and Tad,

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Add Tad to the CLS

Gloria,

I'm sorry to hear about Tad.  Poor baby.

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was hard on him to lose Tad, and hard for me too
 - I was so angry
 and sad and all that.  Just hope that they've
 learned something about
 taking care of cats. We buried Tad this afternoon,
 in a lovely place,
 with stones on top, I got out a nice old pillow case
 with pretty
 embroidery. Sigh.

 Gloria

 At 06:02 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
 I'm sorry to hear about this, too. Anything that
 can be prevented by
 something as simple as keeping the cat indoors
 makes it hard to
 handle. As you said, Tad did have a long life.
 That's something to be
 happy about, though he should have had more time. I
 hope your friend
 is hanging in there. I know how hard it is.
 Speaking for myself, and
 probably many others on this list, our cats are our
 kids. Take care
 of your friend and yourself.
 
 
 Lance
 





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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

I have hard wood, and it takes a LOT of water to make it 
buckle.   It's got a finish on it, and yes, the claws racing around 
the house *does* scratch it up.  It's superficial scratches, but then 
who wants to have their hard wood re-varnished (well finished) every 
couple of years. Wonder about those people at Lowes though - we're 
talking SOAKED with water to make it buckle..  Course if you want 
something impenetrable - ceramic tile.


Gloria


At 01:07 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
I have asked the people at lowes about hard would. They said that 
real wood would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out anything 
different please let me know. I would love to have wood floors, but 
I would think that the kitties might use them for scratching and I 
have to mop with soap and bleach everyday. Sheila

Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

One thing I have found on the Internet is that you can
coat the hardwoods with an epoxy.  Sherwin Williams
makes one that isn't too expensive.  I am looking into
the validity of this.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have asked the people at lowes about hard would.
 They said that real wood 
 would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out
 anything different please let 
 me know. I would love to have wood floors, but I
 would think that the kitties 
 might use them for scratching and I have to mop with
 soap and bleach everyday. 
 Sheila
 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Point taken Patti.  Thanks for your input.  I'm
gathering all the info. I can so we can make the best
decision.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs =  VERY EXPENSIVE
 NIGHTMARE!!!
  
 Take my advice, save the $$$'s  frustration, go
 with tile.  You  can always 
 put down washable throw rugs..
 Scratches, urine, forget it.  You'll be heartbroken.
  (I had  HORRENDOUS 
 scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!! )
 UghBig  mistake.
  
 Patti
 
 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine


Tile is SUPER!


At 01:53 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:

Point taken Patti.  Thanks for your input.  I'm
gathering all the info. I can so we can make the best
decision.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs =  VERY EXPENSIVE
 NIGHTMARE!!!

 Take my advice, save the $$$'s  frustration, go
 with tile.  You  can always
 put down washable throw rugs..
 Scratches, urine, forget it.  You'll be heartbroken.
  (I had  HORRENDOUS
 scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!! )
 UghBig  mistake.

 Patti




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RE: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

Dear Wendy, looks like you have got some good insights on this -
The flooring of my house is combinations of hardwood floor, carpet,
tiles and bricks - when I converted the garage to a living quarter - I
made the most portion of the flooring to brick and some maple hardwood
floor - the main reason to chose bricks were - more expensive than some
other options, easy to clean (as long as you coated them) and it keeps
the room warmer during the winter time and keep it cool in summer time.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Hi guys,

Well, my husband and I have finally decided to remove
the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten so
bad that it actually is showing stains, which usually
only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
it.  The house does not smell good and we are
embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly the
problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home Depot
or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully, we
can get a much better deal than that.  After we remove
the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
to smell the urine even after the new floors are
installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to talk
my husband into this type of flooring, because he
wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
carpet, but we're not going to go there again.  Does
anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
regarding this new excursion we're about to embark on?
 Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there a
particular flooring that does best if exposed to kitty
urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going on
the new flooring?  

Thanks so much!
:)
Wendy

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RE: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Thanks for the info. Hideyo.  I think after all the
information we've gotten that we have pretty much
moved from the laminate flooring to either hardwoods
or tile.  We're going to look at some floor stores
this weekend.  Whatever we're going to do, it needs to
get done quickly!  

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Wendy, looks like you have got some good
 insights on this -
 The flooring of my house is combinations of hardwood
 floor, carpet,
 tiles and bricks - when I converted the garage to a
 living quarter - I
 made the most portion of the flooring to brick and
 some maple hardwood
 floor - the main reason to chose bricks were - more
 expensive than some
 other options, easy to clean (as long as you coated
 them) and it keeps
 the room warmer during the winter time and keep it
 cool in summer time.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of wendy
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:38 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Well, my husband and I have finally decided to
 remove
 the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
 room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten so
 bad that it actually is showing stains, which
 usually
 only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
 it.  The house does not smell good and we are
 embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly
 the
 problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
 hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
 years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
 flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
 installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home
 Depot
 or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully,
 we
 can get a much better deal than that.  After we
 remove
 the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
 we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
 concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
 to smell the urine even after the new floors are
 installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to
 talk
 my husband into this type of flooring, because he
 wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
 my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
 carpet, but we're not going to go there again.  Does
 anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
 regarding this new excursion we're about to embark
 on?
  Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
 your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there a
 particular flooring that does best if exposed to
 kitty
 urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going
 on
 the new flooring?  
 
 Thanks so much!
 :)
 Wendy
 
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Re: Add Tad to the CLS

2006-03-28 Thread Belinda Sauro


  Hi Gloria,
 Sorry to hear about Tad, so sad when this happens.  I have added him 
to the service, is there a date and a friends name?


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Re: Prayers needed Walter and Demetri

2006-03-28 Thread Lance


Walter and Demetri will be in my prayers as well. Take care, Sherry.

Lance

Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Lewis Faye

I agree with Sheila. I had the same problem with actual hardwood. With multiple pets, tile is one of the better options. The problem is you must always clean up immediately. My previous dog withliver issues urinated on a cat toy. I didn't see the accident and had not idea it was there. The urine molded in a few days and ruined those planks. It was awful. I have heard many dreadful tales about laminate flooring and pets. People love it when it is new but when the accidents begin, look out for serious trouble. If you must go with a wood type thing, look into bamboo flooring. I have no experience with this but it has been recommended on other pet boards I visit. I have no idea of the cost but I suspect it isn't cheap. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and living room two years ago with very expensive wood laminate and I have been miserable ever since. It looks great when you first put it down, but you can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have an accident you have to get it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a mess during the night or when you are away from home and can't get to it right away you are gonna have big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams have buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a lot of research and it looks like tile is the best solution for us pet lovers. Sheila
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RE: OT: Prayer for Philmore

2006-03-28 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









Hi, I wanted to ask if I could ask for
your prayer for my friends cat, Philmore who is not doing too well.

Philmore has had a big tumor under his jaw
for the past several months now and is getting harder and harder for him to eat
and breathe his time maybe approaching, but we are not 100% sure as he
can still eat, and he is such a fighter and such a good boy and I wanted
to ask you to pray for Philmore so that he will not be in pain and will be in
peace regardless  



Thank you.

Hideyo











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005
6:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Sorry Guys, just
can't help myself :)







Please let me know if Kyle takes her
soon. I may have someone heading her way but I only want the kitten if I would
be her last resort...





Karen 



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available orphans at:
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Re: Ember

2006-03-28 Thread Lance

Thanks to all of you for your comforting words. I really appreciate  
them. I'm also glad you liked Ember's pictures. Our family has had  
several black cats over the years, but Ember was our first fluffy,  
black kitty. About a year after I adopted Ember in Madison, my  
parents took in Sidney, who looks like a giant Ember with a longer  
tail. Bonnie, when the Sun shines on Ember, I can see very dark  
brown, along with her stripes. Wendy, Cricket's pictures are great.  
He was a beautiful kitty. I especially liked the bad Cricket  
picture. Sometimes they're at their best when they're making mischief.


I'm finally getting used to keeping Ember isolated, and I think she  
is too. It never caused her much stress. I'm finding that having her  
by herself allows me to monitor food/water/litterbox habits better  
than if she was out and about. She does sometimes wake up at night,  
seemingly with the intent to get into something. I need to pick up a  
few more toys that we can play with together. Since the boys tested  
negative, I'd worry a lot less about them (especially since they're  
now vaccinated) than I would that Ember might pick up something from  
our outdoor cat. I'll talk to the vet about this to see what he thinks.


Wendy, I would definitely like your FeLV post collection. The info  
that you, Nina and others have given me has been very helpful.  
Congrats on adopting the little girl. You'll have to post some  
pictures soon. Take care, all.



Lance

RE: OT: Prayer for Philmore

2006-03-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Prayers for Philmore here!  SherryHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, I wanted to ask if I could ask for your prayer for my friends cat, Philmore who is not doing too well.  Philmore has had a big tumor under his jaw for the past several months now and is getting harder and harder for him to eat and breathe his time maybe approaching, but we are
 not 100% sure as he can still eat, and he is such a fighter and such a good boy and I wanted to ask you to pray for Philmore so that he will not be in pain and will be in peace regardless  Thank you.  Hideyo  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:20 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Sorry Guys, just can't help myself :)  Please let me know if Kyle takes her soon. I may have someone heading her way but I only want the kitten if I would be her last resort...Karen see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
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Re: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

Electric coils are run under the tile/wood whatever.  It heats the floor and 
the heat rises.  Great system and supposedly easy enough to install.  I have 
friends who have done it themselves.  This would solve the cold problem.  I 
have one friend who put it in the bathroom (didn't like stepping on tile 
fresh out of the shower).  It is not as expensive as it sounds.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine



What the heck is electric radiant heat?

Thanks,
:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


First find OdoBan and really clean the carpet that
is down.  Use 2-3 times
the strength recommended.  When you do take the
carpet up, do the same to
the concrete.  This stuff will take the odor out of
anything.  Someone threw
a dead ?? in my trash can that stayed there, in
water, for several
weeks.  Couldn't even figure out what the poor
animal was by the time I
discovered it.  I poured a lot of this stuff into
the can and it handled the
smell.  It handles the smell of an angry cat
spraying too.  It is that good.
I know you can get it at Sam's Club.  I don't know
about other places but it
is on the internet.

Second consider using a sealed ceramic tile over
electric radiant heat.
That was not an option for me at one point so I
painted the concrete.  With
a couple of washable throw rugs it did nicely.  You
can do any type of
design you like.  But stay away from carpet.  When
you take it up you will
find out how nasty it is.  The padding turns to
dust.








 If
you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures

from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who

will deal likewise with
their fellow man.

 St.
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine


 Hi guys,

 Well, my husband and I have finally decided to
remove
 the carpet in the living room, hallway, and kitty
 room due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten
so
 bad that it actually is showing stains, which
usually
 only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating
on
 it.  The house does not smell good and we are
 embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly
the
 problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
 hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until
2
 years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
 flooring, which looks like it will cost around
$3000
 installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home
Depot
 or any of the local floor stores yet, so
hopefully, we
 can get a much better deal than that.  After we
remove
 the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
 we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
 concrete is porous and the kittys will still be
able
 to smell the urine even after the new floors are
 installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to
talk
 my husband into this type of flooring, because he
 wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold
on
 my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
 carpet, but we're not going to go there again.
Does
 anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
 regarding this new excursion we're about to embark
on?
 Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
 your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there
a
 particular flooring that does best if exposed to
kitty
 urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from
going on
 the new flooring?

 Thanks so much!
 :)
 Wendy

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Re: OT: Prayer for Philmore




As long as he is eating he is doing well. My 
prayers are with him and all others fighting illnesses.and their 
people. It is so hard to watch a close friend like Philmore in bad health 
and being unable to do anything about it. Urge your friend to pamper him, 
give him anything to eat he wants etc. His person will be very glad when 
his days are done. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

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  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:54 
  PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Prayer for 
Philmore
  
  
  Hi, I wanted to ask 
  if I could ask for your prayer for my friends cat, Philmore who is not doing 
  too well.
  Philmore has had a 
  big tumor under his jaw for the past several months now and is getting harder 
  and harder for him to eat and breathe his time maybe approaching, but we are 
  not 100% sure as he can still eat, and he is such a fighter and such a good 
  boy and I wanted to ask you to pray for Philmore so that he will not be in 
  pain and will be in peace regardless  
  
  Thank 
  you.
  Hideyo
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:20 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Sorry Guys, just can't 
  help myself :)
  
  
  Please let me know 
  if Kyle takes her soon. I may have someone heading her way but I only want the 
  kitten if I would be her last resort...
  
  Karen 
  
  
  see our available 
  orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 
  817-453-4888

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