Re: re Foxy/ bad news
This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
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this is all that i know, but wouldn't it be wonderful -- Forwarded message -- From: Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:14 PM Subject: Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundationhttp://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/ [image: Link to Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation]http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/ New FIV Test Developedhttp://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation/%7E3/261213376/new-fiv-test-developed.html Posted: 31 Mar 2008 08:00 AM CDT *Levy, J. K., P. C. Crawford, et al. (2008). Differentiation of feline immunodeficiency virus vaccination, infection, or vaccination and infection in cats. J Vet Intern Med 22(2): 330-4.* Diagnosis of feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV) is complicated by the fact that no commercially available tests can differentiate between naturally infected cats and cats that have been vaccinated against FIV. After vaccination, cats produce antibodies that to date have been indistinguishable from those induced by natural infection. A discriminant enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) was developed that detects antibodies against formalin-treated FIV whole virus and untreated transmembrane peptide. In this study, blood samples from 73 uninfected and unvaccinated cats, 89 uninfected FIV-vaccinated cats, 99 unvaccinated FIV-infected cats, and 3 FIV-infected and vaccinated cats were tested. The discriminate ELISA correctly identified all uninfected cats, giving a specificity of 100%. Of the FIV-infected cats, 99 were correctly identified, giving a sensitivity of 97.1%. Other than virus isolation, which is not widely available and is time-consuming and expensive, this discriminate ELISA is the most reliable test for diagnosis of FIV. When this test becomes available at referral diagnostic laboratories, a new strategy for FIV testing would be to use the existing patient-side antibody assay as a screening test, and confirm positive results with the discriminant ELISA. PubMed abstracthttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18371028?ordinalpos=1itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum *Related articles: *Kusuhara, H., T. Hohdatsu, et al. (2007). Serological differentiation of FIV-infected cats from dual-subtype feline immunodeficiency virus vaccine (Fel-O-Vax FIV) inoculated cats. Vet Microbiol 120(3-4): 217-25. PubMed abstracthttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17141431?ordinalpos=2itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum More on cat health: Winn Feline Foundation Libraryhttp://www.winnfelinehealth.org/Library.htmlProviding expert cat health information and supporting cat health research since 1968. http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=pC5bq5F http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=7QubL4F http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=OeP5pqF http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=EB3batf http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=WXZU3bf http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Ef/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation?a=izxJ1iF You are subscribed to email updates from Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/ To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe nowhttp://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/emailunsub?id=7878650key=ozX7FGgjSL .Email Delivery powered by FeedBurner Inbox too full? [image: (feed)]http://feeds.feedburner.com/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation Subscribehttp://feeds.feedburner.com/CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundationto the feed version of Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation in a feed reader. If you prefer to unsubscribe via postal mail, write to: Cat Health News from the Winn Feline Foundation, c/o FeedBurner, 20 W Kinzie, 9th Floor, Chicago IL USA 60610 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
Thanks, Belinda, appreciate knowing that - I've had FELV cats died with anemia, although usually mediastinal lymphoma - and I'll remember about the epogen if I need to next time. Gloria On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone. i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information. Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com kathy - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
I'm so sorry that you and Foxy are having to go thru this difficult time. Wondering if the vet said anything else about her condition, or did an xray or anything? The steroid, and fluids apparently helped her feel much better, maybe the abx in case there was infection. Maybe since she's eating it will help her red count. I usually try to do some liquid vitamins, too, like Pet Tinic or something. Sending lots of good vibes, Gloria On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote: First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone. i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information. Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com kathy You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
HI Kathy Hopefully someone here can give you an answer. Junior was anemic when he first got sick and was treated for uncomfirmed hemobatenella(sp). He got over the anemia his HCT was 23. Not as bad as Foxy. He lated tested positive for FELV. I too used Pet Tinic. He also went through the immunoregulin protocol 1 on the felineleukemia home page. He lived another 1.5 years. I was so lucky to have him. Maybe it is time for a new vet. Sally On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone. i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information. *Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com *kathy* -- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Accesshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com, No Cost. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
Since Foxy has been healthy to this point, maybe this event is an anomaly and that with the correct care she will be able to rebound. Is the vet that you are using up on FeLV? As Belinda suggests, there may be a way to reverse her anemia. There are people on the list who may be able to give you advise. I hope someone who has dealt with this will see your post and be able to help you. I know how stressful the unknowns of this disease are. It is awful to be told she has a few days to live and then discover that she has rebounded. It is so confusing and such an emotional roller coaster. I would relay Belinda's experience to your vet and get as much information as you can to post to this group. Maybe someone with more experience with anemia will see your post. I hope that there is someway to help Foxy get through this crisis. I'm sending you every good wish. Jane On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote: First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone. i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information. Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com kathy You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
Re: re Foxy/ bad news
Doxycycline (in case he had hemobartonella), appetite stimulant and pain meds are what we gave our rescue kitten who was severely anemic and in kidney failure. He was also hospitalized for 2 of his first 3 weeks with us so they could IV feed him. We could not get him to eatfinally he rallied and is 100% now. He is not FeLV+. Laurie - Original Message - From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: Re: re Foxy/ bad news Since Foxy has been healthy to this point, maybe this event is an anomaly and that with the correct care she will be able to rebound. Is the vet that you are using up on FeLV? As Belinda suggests, there may be a way to reverse her anemia. There are people on the list who may be able to give you advise. I hope someone who has dealt with this will see your post and be able to help you. I know how stressful the unknowns of this disease are. It is awful to be told she has a few days to live and then discover that she has rebounded. It is so confusing and such an emotional roller coaster. I would relay Belinda's experience to your vet and get as much information as you can to post to this group. Maybe someone with more experience with anemia will see your post. I hope that there is someway to help Foxy get through this crisis. I'm sending you every good wish. Jane On Apr 1, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Kathy Dillard wrote: First of all- thank-you for your response. When Foxy went to the vet yesterday they gave her steroid shot, and antibiotic (shot) and fluid under the skin (shot) as she was dehydrated. They did a blood test and said her white count was almost nonwxisent and her red count was at 10- even too low for a transfusion. So we took her home and cried- and prepared ourselves for the worst. Today Foxy is doing better ( which is probably due to the shots) but she is eating and grooming herself and she doesnt have a fever. My husband and I dont understand and feel confused because Foxy is not breathing heavy which you would think would be happening because of lack of red blood cells and and lack of oxygen. Foxy has been very healthy up to this point so I think she has a strong constitution to draw from-but wonder if her blood count is so low now that it is too late. We did call the vet back today to let them know that she was actually looking better and if there was anything else we could do and they had us pick up a prescription of prednisone. i have raised alot of cats but have never had one with feline leukemia and feel very overwhelmed but want to do everything possible for Foxy and to make sure she is comfortable and not suffering. I hope this information helps clarify her condition and if you have anymore information or thoughts I would greatly appreciate it. I will definitley call the vet tomorrow with more questions and information. Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be too late already but what does your vet say is causing the anemia If he said it is the FeLV causing it RUN to another vet Is she getting doxycycline in case she has hemobartonella, something positives are prone to get and VERY hard to test for??? Bailey was anemic at one point and it was because the virus had activate in his bone marrow and was preventing the making of new red blood cells, he got high doses of prednisolone and epogen and his anemia was reversed. Send her numbers to the list. How low is low?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com kathy You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
I really need some advice
I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV. I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her--not spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people want kittens. She is really cute. Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer. I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as difficult. Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats at risk. If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue group and tested before they even came through my door. Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public. If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit-Metro in Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey, I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her along. I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me. I really appreciate it. Buttons -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web
Re: I really need some advice
What a difficult situation, my heart goes out to you. When I got my Calawalla, she was 6 months old, a pretty little calico girl kitten, just off the street. I couldnt' believe she would ever die, but she did at about 3 yrs old. I kind of feel like if they make it past 3, they're gonna be ok, but just my experience. I did keep Calawalla isolated from the others, meticulously, for about 6 months. Then I did decide to mix Calawalla with my other non-FELV cats, and it worked out fine for me. They had been vaccinated, but I think a healthy adult immune system does a lot whether they're vacc'd or not. I added another FELV cat to the mix, and they were all great buddies. I really don't think it's as contagious as we hear. I have a friend who also acquired a kitty that tested positive - she uses interferon alpha daily, and mixes with another non-FELV cat, and works for her. She's made it past the 3 year mark, and everyone's doing fine. Not saying that you should necessarily do this,something to consider - and others here don't do that, but several of us do and find it works. If you choose to find another home for your sweet kitty, I'm sure in that Michigan area where you live, or NJ/PA, that you can find someone to take and love Binxy. Best of luck and hope this gives you help in some way. Gloria On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV. I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her-- not spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people want kittens. She is really cute. Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer. I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as difficult. Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats at risk. If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue group and tested before they even came through my door. Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public. If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit- Metro in Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey, I am scheduled to go back there to visit friends soon and could take her along. I am so hoping that some of you may know of some resources. Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me. I really appreciate it. Buttons -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web
