Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy-PCV is up to 27-28 but has a fever

2010-08-10 Thread jbero tds.net
Alice,

You are riding quit the roller coaster.  I have to tell you that I think the
hematocrit is fantastic.  Was epogen given, I don't recall.  To reverse
anemia in felv cat is a great accomplishment.  It suggests that he still has
normal progenitor cells capable of making healthy RBCs which means the virus
has not completely won.

Fever can come from a lot of things - infection, stress, lymphoma,
toxins, autoimmune diseases, etc.  In human medicine, when all identifiable
causes of fever are ruled out, it is called and FUO - fever of unknown
origin.  There are a lot of cytokines and fever producing molecules/proteins
that are associated with hematologic processes.  Often fever is a result of
the immune system being active - whether this is in response to infection,
toxin or neoplastic disease.  Although, I would be very cautious about a
fever and look for any source of infection or neoplasm, I would also not
consider a fever to be a bad thing.

There is so much that is unknown about felv and how the body reacts to it
especially in the presence of treatment.  I would not consider it out of the
realm of possibility that the treatment you have provided is aiding him in
fighting the virus.  This could easily cause a low grade fever.  What I am
trying to say is that a fever may in fact indicate something positive rather
than negative.  Again, I would be cautious and look for any sign of
infection of neoplasm.  I would also still follow the CBC.  The hematocrit,
though is wonderful.  I will continue to pray for all of you.

Jenny


On 8/6/10, Alice Flowers  wrote:
>
> What the heck-we can't get well!!! His gums are looking nice and pink-his
> PCV in
> the office is up to 27-28 from 2 weeks ago. His temp was 104.7 today when
> it had
> been 101.6 the last 2 visits-7/23 and 7/29. That explains his dry, warm
> nose.
> They gave him a shot of PennG and I will repeat in 5 days at home and to
> keep
> him on all the meds like we have been the last 2 weeks. He's been on
> Doxycycline
> for 2 weeks. He is down only 2.5 oz but overall has gone from 11 lb 15 oz
> in
> November to 10 lb 2 oz today. He looks bright, but is sleeping a lot. I
> don't
> get it-what is causing the fever???
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter/eating litter

2010-08-10 Thread Laurieskatz
Mine are just food mongers!

"Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter/eating litter

My cats have only eaten litter when they have been anemic & dying (FeLV cats
only). Then I have to go to shredded newspaper.

Beth
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--- On Mon, 8/9/10, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:

From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: "Laurieskatz" 
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 11:39 PM

p.s. i have never had a problem with my guys eating litter, guess they are
getting what they need from their food.
 Laurieskatz  wrote: 
> Check out www.catinfo.org about this and other litters.
> My cats ate it... :( 
> 
> "Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being
of
> a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared
to
> the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." ~ Martin
> Luther King, Jr.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:51 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] cat litter
> 
> hello everyone,
> 
> just found a great new litter called World's Best Cat Litter.  i found it
at
> Tractor Supply in Troy, Mo., but they are starting to sell through 
PetsMart
> and PetCo.  it comes in 3 diferent sizes.  it is great, a 17 lb bag costs
> $10.00 and it lasts longer than clay litter.  best of all, it is gound up
> corn so it is biodegradeable, light weight compared to clay, clumps really
> good (even Dee can't break up the clumps), doesn't smell and lasts longer
> because you can get out whole clumps and don't waste as much.  i called
them
> and they sent me a $3.00 coupon.  also sent me to Smart Source.com where i
> got another $3.00 coupon.  they started out in New York area and now are
> spreading across the country.  i live in the country so i just made
another
> compost pile for the cat litter.  even if you are in the city and cannot
> have compost piles, when it gets to the landfil, it will break down and
not
> hurt the environment. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter/eating litter

2010-08-10 Thread Beth
My cats have only eaten litter when they have been anemic & dying (FeLV cats 
only). Then I have to go to shredded newspaper.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 8/9/10, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:

From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: "Laurieskatz" 
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 11:39 PM

p.s. i have never had a problem with my guys eating litter, guess they are 
getting what they need from their food.
 Laurieskatz  wrote: 
> Check out www.catinfo.org about this and other litters.
> My cats ate it... :( 
> 
> "Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
> a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
> the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." ~ Martin
> Luther King, Jr.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 9:51 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] cat litter
> 
> hello everyone,
> 
> just found a great new litter called World's Best Cat Litter.  i found it at
> Tractor Supply in Troy, Mo., but they are starting to sell through  PetsMart
> and PetCo.  it comes in 3 diferent sizes.  it is great, a 17 lb bag costs
> $10.00 and it lasts longer than clay litter.  best of all, it is gound up
> corn so it is biodegradeable, light weight compared to clay, clumps really
> good (even Dee can't break up the clumps), doesn't smell and lasts longer
> because you can get out whole clumps and don't waste as much.  i called them
> and they sent me a $3.00 coupon.  also sent me to Smart Source.com where i
> got another $3.00 coupon.  they started out in New York area and now are
> spreading across the country.  i live in the country so i just made another
> compost pile for the cat litter.  even if you are in the city and cannot
> have compost piles, when it gets to the landfil, it will break down and not
> hurt the environment. 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter

2010-08-10 Thread Beth
HAHA Barb! I had the same experience with Sweat Scoop. I actually had to take a 
hammer to pound the "cement" off the bottom of the litter pan.
A few years ago I did a "litter test". I bought a bunch of different brands of 
litter & filled a  box with each one - clay, Yesterday's News, Sweat Scoop, 
World's Best, Feline Pine...& monitored the smell & which boxes the cats were 
actually using. World's Best took the prize in eliminating smell & was the one 
the cats liked best.

Beth
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--- On Mon, 8/9/10, Barb Moermond  wrote:

From: Barb Moermond 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 11:44 PM

$10?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  I stopped using it because a 17lb back was over $20 - even 
with a break - holy frijoles

i really loved it though - it's much better than swheat scoop because it 
doesn't 
turn into sticky cement
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"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 

- Anonymous





From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 9:50:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] cat litter

hello everyone,

just found a great new litter called World's Best Cat Litter.  i found it at 
Tractor Supply in Troy, Mo., but they are starting to sell through  PetsMart 
and 
PetCo.  it comes in 3 diferent sizes.  it is great, a 17 lb bag costs $10.00 
and 
it lasts longer than clay litter.  best of all, it is gound up corn so it is 
biodegradeable, light weight compared to clay, clumps really good (even Dee 
can't break up the clumps), doesn't smell and lasts longer because you can get 
out whole clumps and don't waste as much.  i called them and they sent me a 
$3.00 coupon.  also sent me to Smart Source.com where i got another $3.00 
coupon.  they started out in New York area and now are spreading across the 
country.  i live in the country so i just made another compost pile for the cat 
litter.  even if you are in the city and cannot have compost piles, when it 
gets 
to the landfil, it will break down and not hurt the environment. 


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Re: [Felvtalk] cat litter

2010-08-10 Thread Beth Noren
Hi Kelley,
Me too!  I like the way this box catches the urine in a reservoir.
One of my boxes is a Tidy Cat Breeze right now.  The cats love it, it
is their favorite box too pee in, but the urine collection tray is too
shallow and the pads are bad for the environment.  It's too bad, I
love the way it looks, and how the scoop can hang off the side, if it
just had a urine bottle instead of the tray/pad combo it would be
perfect...

Beth (Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Mama, Sprite, Schnozzie & Harriet,
and angel Will)



On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Kelley Saveika  wrote:
> I want one of these so bad!  It uses safflower seeds for litter.  Completely
> biodegradable and you CAN get the safflower seeds from Walmart.  Do not have
> to buy from this company.
>
> http://www.felinediabetes.com/SCB/SCBcatalog.htm

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