[Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Frank Sue Koren
Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.  

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols Nutritional Support, Meds, to boost Immunity?

2011-02-03 Thread Natalie
Good supplements with Vitamin C, Biotin (Nickers), and CoQ10 in powder in
capsules (GNC Vegetarian formula) - regular oil in capsules hard to squeeze
out all oil from capsules.I give all FIV/FeLV and heart patients 50mg
daily.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of M C
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols  Nutritional Support,
Meds, to boost Immunity?

Dear Kitty Lovers,

One of my rescued kittens rested positive for leukemia. She was tested at 4
mos, 
5 mos, then 7 mos-- all positive on the ELISA. My vet says if she retests 
positive on the ELISA in 2 mos, she's definitely positive. Others say we
need to 
do the IFA to get the more accurate results. She looks healthy, but still
small 
for her age, she recently had a mild cold which went away w/Amoxi dosge.

At this point, the chances of her fighting off a FeLV infection are not
great, 
right? With that said, if anyone has nutritional supplements, food 
recommendations, and other ideas on how to provide her with the best
immunity 
support/boosts, please let us know!

I keep hearing about Interferon, but I don't know anyone else w/a felv
kitten or 
cat, so any advice would be appreciated! My vet is relatively new to this 
disease, he only sees the kitties w/feLV when its really gotten bad...

Thanks,

Sara



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Katy Doyle
I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols Nutritional Support, Meds, to boost Immunity?

2011-02-03 Thread Katy Doyle
I feed my cats Blue Buffalo (it's the only food I've tried that doesn't make
my cats vomit) and I put a little Nutri-Cal on their paw one per week.

My cats are healthy right now, aside from testing positive, so I haven't
gotten into all the other supplements that everyone else uses.



On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Good supplements with Vitamin C, Biotin (Nickers), and CoQ10 in powder in
 capsules (GNC Vegetarian formula) - regular oil in capsules hard to squeeze
 out all oil from capsules.I give all FIV/FeLV and heart patients 50mg
 daily.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of M C
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:06 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols  Nutritional
 Support,
 Meds, to boost Immunity?

 Dear Kitty Lovers,

 One of my rescued kittens rested positive for leukemia. She was tested at 4
 mos,
 5 mos, then 7 mos-- all positive on the ELISA. My vet says if she retests
 positive on the ELISA in 2 mos, she's definitely positive. Others say we
 need to
 do the IFA to get the more accurate results. She looks healthy, but still
 small
 for her age, she recently had a mild cold which went away w/Amoxi dosge.

 At this point, the chances of her fighting off a FeLV infection are not
 great,
 right? With that said, if anyone has nutritional supplements, food
 recommendations, and other ideas on how to provide her with the best
 immunity
 support/boosts, please let us know!

 I keep hearing about Interferon, but I don't know anyone else w/a felv
 kitten or
 cat, so any advice would be appreciated! My vet is relatively new to this
 disease, he only sees the kitties w/feLV when its really gotten bad...

 Thanks,

 Sara




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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Natalie
Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.

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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Susan Koren
The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is 
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking 
and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value 
would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and 
immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Natalie
Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no
problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking
maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Susan Koren
I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did you 
do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Natalie
I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Frank Sue Koren
I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must crosst
the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread MaiMaiPG
That bright ray of sunshine will be shining on you and loving you.   
Tweezer knows all that you have done for him and trusts you to make  
the right decisions.  He will always be in your life and heart...just  
in a different form.  This does not take away the pain, the awful pain  
but it may change that pain.


Try to focus on the time you have together and enjoy each other.  Some  
of the most memorable minutes I had with Ebony were in the hours  
before he left this world.  Try to focus...through the heartache.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Frank  Sue Koren wrote:

I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can  
be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can  
do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be  
done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr.  
Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must  
crosst

the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her  
because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable  
than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would  
know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to  
immediately make

the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a  
syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of  
toxins?


Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an  
emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which  
made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research  
and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can  
cause

seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a  
syringeshould be

no
problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw,  
and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly  
releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if  
you

placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.   
He is

interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were

thinking
maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because  
of his

being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they  
have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to  
cats),

try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to  
get

the

taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know  
what to

do
to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes  
use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all  
their

viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:

Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a  
secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because  
he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He  
is on

Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one  
didn't.


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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Mike Finch
Sue,

I'm praying for you and Tweezer.  Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D

Mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Frank Sue Koren
Tweezer was the name the rescue group that had him gave him.  I liked the
name and it fit him so we kept it.  I don't know if links from the cat forum
I am part of will work here, but I will try.  This tells the story of how I
came to have him and of his first few weeks at home:

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/117922-cat-cage.html

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/119042-tweezer-after-5-1-2-weeks.h
tml

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Finch
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

Sue,

I'm praying for you and Tweezer.  Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D

Mike
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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Natalie
Don't let him go unless you know he is suffering - he may get better with
some fluids; does you vet give Vitamin injections?  Mine makes a combo of C,
B12 etc. and it has save many sick cats and put them onto the road to
feeling a lot better!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank  Sue Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then
I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must crosst
the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV!
BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make
the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe.  Did
you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
 clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
 livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
 found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
 seizures.
 Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be
no
 problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
 gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
 food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
 placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
 interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
 shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were
thinking
 maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
 being weak and immune compromised.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
 infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats),
 try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
 eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get
the
 taste, they usually start eating!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
 
 I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to
do
 to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
 tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
 viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.
 
 I hope that helps!
 ---Katy
 
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
 fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
 infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
 frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
 Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?
 
 I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't.
 
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[Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(

2011-02-03 Thread Sherry DeHaan
OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he first 
came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much for his 
little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby.
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(

2011-02-03 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Sherry,
my condolences on the loss of your sweetie, Oatmeal Creme Pie.  As you know, 
he is out of the suffering now.  May your heart be warmed by the love and 
friendship you two shared.

Peace,
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com

To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(


OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he 
first came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much 
for his little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby.

Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way



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Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

2011-02-03 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Fingers crossed for a good outcome for you and Tweezer!  Hang in there!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick



I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done
for Tweezer.  If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, 
then

I will do everything I can for him.  If there is nothing that can be done
then it will be time to let him go with dignity.  I can trust Dr. Tom to
advise me correctly.  Meanwhile I am a basket case.  If Tweezer must 
crosst

the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her 
because
she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than 
FeLV!

BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for
the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately 
make

the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots
Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. 
Did

you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins?

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency
clinic, and they told me you have a very sick kitty here, which made me
livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and
found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause
seizures.
Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be

no

problem!  Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath  the jaw, and
gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the
food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you
placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating.  He is
interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the
shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were

thinking

maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his
being weak and immune compromised.

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing.  Sometimes, when they have an
infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to 
cats),

try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an
eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get

the

taste, they usually start eating!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick

I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to

do

to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use
tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their
viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better.

I hope that helps!
---Katy

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank  Sue Koren
fs...@roadrunner.comwrote:


Tweezer was to the vet yesterday.  His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary
infection.  He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is
frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink.  He is on
Prednesolone and Clavamox for now.  What can I do to help him?

I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one 
didn't.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(

2011-02-03 Thread Sharyl
Rest in peace Oatmeal Creme Pie.  Sometimes there isn't anything we can do to 
help these sweet babies.
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 11:02 PM


OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he first 
came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much for his 
little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby.
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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