Re: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats
That's a beautiful story, Tazzy. Thanks. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Great Topic: Husbands and cats My father was not a cat person, but when he became very ill and needed me sometimes thru the night he would ring a glass bell we kept by his bed. Snuggles went to his room about 3 months before he passed and would not leave his bed. He stayed on the foot and when father rang the bell, he would come into my room to get me. He would wake me if I had not heard the bell and if I had, he would walk in front of me and turn ever so often and meow as if to say hurry. The Sunday morning father passed, Snug left his room afterwards and never went back. He passed the next week. It was as if he had a mission, it was completed and now he could go also. They do know, even better than we do when it is time for someone to leave. ter...@tazzys.org wrote: > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
Go to groups.yahoo.com & search for it. It is for individuals needing help with pets. No rescue groups. katskat1 wrote: >Beth and Natalie > >Thanks for the ideas. I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish >List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it? > >I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I >guess I can learn. My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a >small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing. Her office is in an >old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets >behind it for paperwork. Surgery is done in a small room in the >basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc. Sounds >hookie but she does good work. And she cares. Asking the $ be sent >directly to her is perfect! I may give it a shot. > >Kat > >On 7/10/11, Natalie wrote: >> Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about >> anything! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >> >> Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group. >> Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments. >> >> katskat1 wrote: >> >>>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >>>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >>>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. >>> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >>>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. >>> >>>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >>>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >>>ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. >>> >>>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >>>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >>>any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >>>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >>>breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >>>quality of whatever life she has >>> >>>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. >>> >>>kat >>> >>>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG wrote: His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look like he is pantingand he does look adorable. Sorry to give any other impression. On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: > The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. > We have > quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the > side of > their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in > front - > and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out > feral > and are mushes now. > Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am > always > surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live > trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him > under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. > She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were > pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of > the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing > his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the > clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and > is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most > of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and > others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous > cats. Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not > quantity of his life. As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+. > On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > >> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses >> in a bad >> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of >> the body's >> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all >> of their >> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc. >> >> Diane R. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:fe
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Sounds like she might have stomatitis. We have two cats with that and they both had all but their canines pulled and both are doing 100% better now. > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:29:51 -0400 > From: katsk...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth > > Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. > > Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until > the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause > the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have > sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures > won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was > afraid to get them out. duh! Oh well. > > Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be > petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to > get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, > nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so > there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream > on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! > Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several > hours. Not doing that to her or me again. > > So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is > sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like > she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do > > Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. > If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture > eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten > pulled~. > > Kat > > > On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike > > dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. > > Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at > > the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams > > and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems > > to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More > > hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry > > that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. > > > > Lorrie wrote: > >> Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com > >> In-Reply-To: > >> > >> > >> Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking > >> care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. > >> You are very kind. > >> > >> Lorrie > >> > >> On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: > >> > Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take > >> > Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is > >> > obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. > >> > She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time > >> > before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. > >> > > >> > I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - > >> > has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are > >> > ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. > >> > > >> > Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat > >> > anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with > >> > any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind > >> > storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are > >> > breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her > >> > quality of whatever life she has > >> > > >> > Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. > >> > > >> > kat > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
Thanks Natalie. I meant the Yahoo group Beth mentioned, Animal Wish List. You have to have a PayPal account to use Chipin and I don't have one. And I wouldn't want to create and use one if I want the money to go directly to my vet right? She would have to have an account? Don't know if she does, if I can/should set one up for her (she is out of town), etc. I will work on it tho cause I can use the help for Luke. Kat On 7/11/11, Natalie wrote: > No, just go to www.chipin.com - instructions right there on how to proceed > point by point! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:53 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Beth and Natalie > > Thanks for the ideas. I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish > List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it? > > I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I > guess I can learn. My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a > small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing. Her office is in an > old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets > behind it for paperwork. Surgery is done in a small room in the > basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc. Sounds > hookie but she does good work. And she cares. Asking the $ be sent > directly to her is perfect! I may give it a shot. > > Kat > > On 7/10/11, Natalie wrote: >> Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about >> anything! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG >> >> Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group. >> Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments. >> >> katskat1 wrote: >> >>>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >>>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >>>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. >>> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >>>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. >>> >>>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >>>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >>>ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. >>> >>>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >>>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >>>any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >>>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >>>breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >>>quality of whatever life she has >>> >>>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. >>> >>>kat >>> >>>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG wrote: His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look like he is pantingand he does look adorable. Sorry to give any other impression. On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: > The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. > We have > quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the > side of > their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in > front - > and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out > feral > and are mushes now. > Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am > always > surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live > trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him > under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. > She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were > pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of > the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing > his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the > clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and > is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most > of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and > others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous >>
Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
No, just go to www.chipin.com - instructions right there on how to proceed point by point! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG Beth and Natalie Thanks for the ideas. I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it? I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I guess I can learn. My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing. Her office is in an old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets behind it for paperwork. Surgery is done in a small room in the basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc. Sounds hookie but she does good work. And she cares. Asking the $ be sent directly to her is perfect! I may give it a shot. Kat On 7/10/11, Natalie wrote: > Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about > anything! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group. > Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments. > > katskat1 wrote: > >>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. >> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. >> >>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >>ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. >> >>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >>any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >>breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >>quality of whatever life she has >> >>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. >> >>kat >> >>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG wrote: >>> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look >>> like he is pantingand he does look adorable. Sorry to give any >>> other impression. >>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: >>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. We have quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the side of their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in front - and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out feral and are mushes now. Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am always surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous cats. Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not quantity of his life. As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+. On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses > in a bad > mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of > the body's > systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all > of their > babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc. > > Diane R. > >>>
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Consider putting out some plain full fat yogurt for Luke...with probiotics. Might make him feel better. On Jul 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, katskat1 wrote: Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh!Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. Lorrie wrote: Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com In-Reply-To: Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. You are very kind. Lorrie On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her quality of whatever life she has Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
A suggestion for medicating difficult cats -- I recently had to get gel caps into a timid former feral girl who seems to sprout extra feet and claws when I medicate her. I cut a hole in the end of a pillowcase and put that over her, with just her head sticking out of the hole. That helped. it still wasn't easy. But it was better. We actually got through the entire course of medication. --- On Mon, 7/11/11, katskat1 wrote: > From: katskat1 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 10:29 AM > Again, thanks to all of you. > Been a great help. > > Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of > office until > the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's > upsetting cause > the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was > supposed to have > sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more > days with sutures > won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months > cause I was > afraid to get them out. duh! Oh well. > > Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, > loves to be > petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth > nothing is going to > get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of > her throat, > nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth > fell out so > there was a plus side but I am still putting triple > antibiotic cream > on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like > a mummy! > Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for > several > hours. Not doing that to her or me again. > > So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet > but she is > sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at > the door like > she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do > > Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but > what the heck. > If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to > rupture > eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown > kitten > pulled~. > > Kat > > > On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net > > wrote: > > Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you > are giving them. Unlike > > dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds > were in it. > > Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to > make a reservation at > > the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. > She bites, scratches, screams > > and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated > that it almost seems > > to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we > head to the vet. More > > hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, > but that makes her so angry > > that she won't have anything to do with me for at > least a couple of hours. > > > > Lorrie > wrote: > >> Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com > >> In-Reply-To: > >> > > >> > >> Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very > difficult taking > >> care of a cat who fights your every effort to help > her/hin. > >> You are very kind. > >> > >> Lorrie > >> > >> On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: > >> > Thanks to all I have decided if I can find > the $ I am going to take > >> > Luke to the vet and have some/all of her > rotten teeth removed. She is > >> > obviously in discomfort and her breath has > gotten progressively worse. > >> > She is ratty looking and apparently has > been sickly for a long time > >> > before I started feeding her as a stray but > she still wants to live. > >> > > >> > I was very apprehensive about doing this to a > cat that stays outside - > >> > has to - won't come in, fights to get > back out and my inside cats are > >> > ALL negatives. But she sticks around > and I don't have many options. > >> > > >> > Now, if only I could successfully medicate > her. She will not eat > >> > anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet > food, treats, NOTHING with > >> > any med of any kind. Trying to syringe > her is like fighting a wind > >> > storm with lots of claws and then we are both > so stressed we are > >> > breathing hard. Not good for her. > Or me. So I am trying to give her > >> > quality of whatever life she has > >> > > >> > Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will > help. > >> > > >> > kat > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
Beth and Natalie Thanks for the ideas. I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it? I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I guess I can learn. My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing. Her office is in an old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets behind it for paperwork. Surgery is done in a small room in the basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc. Sounds hookie but she does good work. And she cares. Asking the $ be sent directly to her is perfect! I may give it a shot. Kat On 7/10/11, Natalie wrote: > Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about > anything! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group. > Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments. > > katskat1 wrote: > >>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. >> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. >> >>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >>ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. >> >>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >>any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >>breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >>quality of whatever life she has >> >>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. >> >>kat >> >>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG wrote: >>> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look >>> like he is pantingand he does look adorable. Sorry to give any >>> other impression. >>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote: >>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth. We have quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the side of their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in front - and looks adorable. We have some real oldtimers here - started out feral and are mushes now. Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful I am always surprised how toothless cats just love dry food! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live trapped for neutering. The vet called me after they put him under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth. She checked his teeth and they were totally awful. Most of them were pulled. The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing his opinion. He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the clan and is so handsome. He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most of the time. He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous cats. Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not quantity of his life. As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+. On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: > Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses > in a bad > mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of > the body's > systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all > of their > babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG > > Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine,
Re: [Felvtalk] cat with rotten teeth
Again, thanks to all of you. Been a great help. Called my vet this morning and she is unexpectedly out of office until the 18th. Apparently she had family emergency. That's upsetting cause the kitty who had her eyes removed last Wednesday was supposed to have sutures out this Wed the 13th. I guess a few more days with sutures won't hurt - I kept mine in my knee for almost 4 months cause I was afraid to get them out. duh!Oh well. Surprisingly, Luke is a lover. Loves to be picked up, loves to be petted. But with the apparent pain in her mouth nothing is going to get into her via syringe or jamming a pill in the back of her throat, nothing. Last time I tried it one of her loose teeth fell out so there was a plus side but I am still putting triple antibiotic cream on the scratches and I had her wrapped in a bath towel like a mummy! Afterward she was panting, drooling, vomiting and hid for several hours. Not doing that to her or me again. So I will have to wait until the 18th to get her to the vet but she is sticking around the yard now and actually was sitting at the door like she -almost- wanted in so I guess that will have to do Thanks again cause I was hesitant to do that to her but what the heck. If I can have a little 5 week old kittens rotten, ready to rupture eyes removed I guess I can the rotten teeth of a full grown kitten pulled~. Kat On 7/11/11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > Cats have a way of knowing meds are in the food you are giving them. Unlike > dogs who gulp it down so fast they never realize meds were in it. > Medicating Casey is life threatening, I almost need to make a reservation at > the ER for a couple of pints of blood for me. She bites, scratches, screams > and like you said, we are both so worn out, frustrated that it almost seems > to do more harm than good. If she needs meds, we head to the vet. More > hands to hld her down. I have gotten a muzzle, but that makes her so angry > that she won't have anything to do with me for at least a couple of hours. > > Lorrie wrote: >> Reply to: felineres...@frontier.com >> In-Reply-To: >> >> >> Thanks for taking care of Luke. It's very difficult taking >> care of a cat who fights your every effort to help her/hin. >> You are very kind. >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 07-09, katskat1 wrote: >> > Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take >> > Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed. She is >> > obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse. >> > She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time >> > before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live. >> > >> > I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside - >> > has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are >> > ALL negatives. But she sticks around and I don't have many options. >> > >> > Now, if only I could successfully medicate her. She will not eat >> > anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with >> > any med of any kind. Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind >> > storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are >> > breathing hard. Not good for her. Or me. So I am trying to give her >> > quality of whatever life she has >> > >> > Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help. >> > >> > kat >> > >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chick feed for litter
Thanks, I'll look for that next time I'm there. Beth N. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:01 PM, MaiMaiPG wrote: > Big 12 pound bags of soda are available at WalMarts/Sams etc---often with > the swimming pool supplies. Usually about $6.00. > On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Lorrie wrote: > >> Thanks for the info, Beth. We have a Tractor Supply about 12 miles >> away, and tho we don't go there often, I want to try this chick feed. >> We live in a very cool climate, so maybe we won't get the weevils or >> sour smell that sometimes comes from wet corn. I scoop frequently >> too which should help. >> >> Lorrie >> >> On 07-09, Beth Noren wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I've used "Dumor" brand "Starter/Grower Chick Feed". I get it >>> from Tractor Supply Co., think it was $13.00 for 50lbs? last time I >>> got it. It's a bit of a hike to TSC, so I don't always use it. Plus. >>> my husband complains that it doesn't handle odor well enough. Pros: >>> 1.price 2.low dust 3.biodegradable 4.doesn't come from strip >>> mining. 5.safer. Cons: 1.odor control 2.doesn't clump as hard as >>> clay 3.doesn't sift as easily as clay 4.some people have problems >>> with weevils in it, especially in summer. Overall I like it, >>> especially after paying 40-50 bucks for a much smaller bag of World's >>> Best, which is pretty similar. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Beth N. >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
