Re: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS

2012-01-03 Thread Lynda Wilson
Aw! So sorry to hear about Brutus! They are all so lucky to have you and Marcia taking such great care of them. I will hope for a healthier year for everyone's furry babies in 2012, a wish that I hope comes true!! Many Blessings to you Sherry~ L - Original Message - From: Sherry

Re: [Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS

2012-01-03 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Sherry, Please tell Marcia I am sorry for her loss, I have Brutus added to 2011's losses. On 1/2/2012 7:46 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marcia
My cat Fletch also spiraled downhill after being neutered. But honestly, they vaccinated him with core vaccines AND Felv, and I think that is what started him on his downward spiral. I didn't ask for that either. But I agree that it would have been much more stressful for him to stay intact.

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marta Gasper
Neutering won't do a thing to most FeLV+ but vaccinating will to all. It is most stressful being intact and no release. A + kitty should have at most the rabies vaccine and only that one. A FIV+ can have rabies and one another but not FIV/FeLV. And it always depend on at what point(stage) the

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread MaiMaiPG
Some jurisdictions accept a vet's letter that an animal is not well enough to receive rabies vaccinations. My vet did this when I had a dog with auto-immune issues. If that doesn't work, the vaccination does not have to be done at the same time as the neuter. My current cats are very

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread MaiMaiPG
I started making it very plain that I did not want the vaccinations at that time..and still had a vet give a rabies shot to a very sick cat. When I expressed my displeasure, the tech informed me that they had never had any trouble with... Given that most cats in this county,

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marcia Baronda
yes, i totally agree with you. they should definitelty be stretched out!! On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: Some jurisdictions accept a vet's letter that an animal is not well enough to receive rabies vaccinations. My vet did this when I had a dog with

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread GRAS
Vaccinating FeLV+ kittens is far more dangerous than neutering them. However, since they would be indoor cats anyway, no danger of impregnating any females, I don’t see any real reason for neutering them. If one considers that their lives would not be that long, if they already exhibit

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread GRAS
However, if a cat is strictly indoors, one can easily get away with not giving them rabies vaccines.who would know? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:19 PM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread GRAS
My veterinarian would NEVER vaccinate a cat that is even slightly under the weather.you are right, how would they know if cats have had any reactions From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
I would recommend to run a blood work to make sure that everything looks good before the surgery - especially CBC portion as sometimes their WBC/RBC might be a little off - I don't know if it's conincidence or not - I do believe that stress sort of triggered the disease - my completely healthy

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread MaiMaiPG
I had two females. One was treated as a regular cat, spayed, came home and was kept up and checked on regularly. She was fine, eating and.well fine when I checked her on the second/third night. She was dying in my arms the next morning. A very few months later I had another female,

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread dppl dppl
I can't wait until they perfect non surgical sterilzation of animals.  I suppose they will be other issues though as they always is with drugs, etc.  But maybe not. This site http://www.spayusa.org/main_directory/04-sterilization_methods/nonsurgical/index.asp   says they are working on non

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marcia
I have ALWAYS wondered that! How would they know until the cat never wakes up. I bet it happens more than anyone knows! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 3:08 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: My veterinarian would NEVER vaccinate a cat that is even slightly under the weather…you are

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Marcia
I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that, and for your cats too. How horrible. Marcia Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2012, at 5:44 PM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: I had two females. One was treated as a regular cat, spayed, came home and was kept up and checked on regularly.

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Beth
I cannot imagine having uneutered cat in my house. The smell would get untolerable as they mature. I've always fixed my FeLV cats. The syress on them has to be worse than the surgery. I would not vaccinate for FVRCP. My one cat spiraled down hill quickly after the vaccine I've heard of othrs

[Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-03 Thread Beth
Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this? Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-03 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes, they now make triple tests (heartworm/FIV?FELV) which are less accurate. Apparently their patent ran out. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Our shelter has been told Idexx has stopped making combo tests indefinitely. Has anyone else in rescue heard this?

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-03 Thread Beth
Oh ok. Yes we used those when they 1st came out. They were inaccurate so we stopped using them. So I guess there is no alternative any more? Beth Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they now make triple tests (heartworm/FIV?FELV) which are less accurate. Apparently their patent ran

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Beth
I agree with FeLV cats, but I never had an issue vaccinating my healthy FIV cat. I had to vaccinate him for FeLV as he lived with FeLV cats. I only gave him The FVRCP vaccine when I did a lot of rescue was worried about exposure since I was dealing with a lot of kittens from bad situations.

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread dlgegg
My vet will not operate if the animal does not have vaccinations up to date and if tey are running a fevor, have open wounds, etc. He treats the wounds, fevor first, then when they are healed, does surgery. Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: I have ALWAYS wondered that! How would

Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-03 Thread Beth
If the neutering was going to affect him it would have been right away. My own cat acted fine one day (playing in the yard under supervision) at the emergency vet the next day with severe anemia. Cats are good at hiding illness. I know the anemia did not come on overnight. She was just hiding

Re: [Felvtalk] Idexx combo tests

2012-01-03 Thread Kelley Saveika
The patent ran out so i assumed others were producing them more cheaply but I don't know. That's what happens with human medications... On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh ok. Yes we used those when they 1st came out. They were inaccurate so we stopped using