Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch

2012-03-09 Thread Lorrie 
On 03-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

> $150.00 for life long care of a cat is not enough.  The place I
>  have chosen for my babies requests $400.00 per year per catX the
>  number of years you expect the cat to live.  This seams to be more
>  in line consdering what I put out each year on my cats. 

This is what alerted me to the problems ahead for Caboodle. When
searching for a sanctuary for my cats a couple of years ago, I
checked with them and when they said only $150. per cat I questioned
them about this not being enough, and they got very defensive.  Some
sanctuaries like Tabby's Place in NJ, charge $15,000, which is very
high but more realistic, as vet bills over the years can easily cost
that much. I think there must be some good sanctuaries somewhere in
between these prices.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

2012-03-09 Thread Lorrie 
I have several FelV cats, and they have lived long healthy lives.
I do not think an asymtomatic FelV cat should be automatically
euthanized. There are sanctuaries that take FelV cats, or they 
should be isolated from other cats, but not killed.

Lorrie


On 03-08, Beth wrote:
>I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have returned FIV cats
>Unfortunately,  Alley  Cat Allies thinks they all should be returned &
>not  even tested. The place I have gotten ferals fixed believes this &
>refuses to test ferals.
>Crazy.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ferals

2012-03-09 Thread Lorrie 
Heather, this is a huge undertaking for you and your bf.  What a
wonderful committment.  Thank you.

Lorrie

On 03-07, Heather wrote:
>My  bf  and I take care of over 140 feral/homeless cats on the streets
>everyday  (in  over  20  different spots), 365 days a year for several
>years  now,  they  are  spayed  and  neutered/vaccinated,  treated for
>illnesses  as much as we are able.



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Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

2012-03-09 Thread Beth 
We're talking about feral colonies.
That's not possible in with large colonies. If it was a cat in my neighborhood, 
I would just take it in, feral or not which I have done.
Large sanctuaries do not have resources to manage large numbers of FeLV cats, 
especially not feral FeLV cats. It may be sad, but it is the best choice with 
ferals. I could not bear the thought of a feral cat dying slowly alone from 
FeLV.

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 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
 
I have several FelV cats, and they have lived long healthy lives.
I do not think an asymtomatic FelV cat should be automatically
euthanized. There are sanctuaries that take FelV cats, or they 
should be isolated from other cats, but not killed.

Lorrie


On 03-08, Beth wrote:
>    I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have returned FIV cats
>    Unfortunately,  Alley  Cat Allies thinks they all should be returned &
>    not  even tested. The place I have gotten ferals fixed believes this &
>    refuses to test ferals.
>    Crazy.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch

2012-03-09 Thread Edna Taylor 

The few places I have checked require a $10,000 stipend PER cat and that is 
what I would expect with health issues as cats get older.
 
 

> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 06:58:55 -0500
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] caboodle ranch
> 
> On 03-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
> 
> > $150.00 for life long care of a cat is not enough. The place I
> > have chosen for my babies requests $400.00 per year per catX the
> > number of years you expect the cat to live. This seams to be more
> > in line consdering what I put out each year on my cats. 
> 
> This is what alerted me to the problems ahead for Caboodle. When
> searching for a sanctuary for my cats a couple of years ago, I
> checked with them and when they said only $150. per cat I questioned
> them about this not being enough, and they got very defensive. Some
> sanctuaries like Tabby's Place in NJ, charge $15,000, which is very
> high but more realistic, as vet bills over the years can easily cost
> that much. I think there must be some good sanctuaries somewhere in
> between these prices.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ferals

2012-03-09 Thread GRAS 
That's fantastic!  You are really an example for others to follow! 
Thank you on behalf of all the =^..^=  =^..^=  =^..^=  =^..^=..
Natalie & =^..^=  =^..^= etc.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ferals

Heather, this is a huge undertaking for you and your bf.  What a wonderful
committment.  Thank you.

Lorrie

On 03-07, Heather wrote:
>My  bf  and I take care of over 140 feral/homeless cats on the streets
>everyday  (in  over  20  different spots), 365 days a year for several
>years  now,  they  are  spayed  and  neutered/vaccinated,  treated for
>illnesses  as much as we are able.



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[Felvtalk] age related

2012-03-09 Thread Second Chance Meows 
How Old is My Pet? Correctly Calculate Your Dog or Cat's Age!By Webvet | 
Pets – Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22 AM EST
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By Gayle Hickman 

Most people think that calculating the age of dogs and cats in "human years" is 
quite simple: multiply their age by seven. For 
example, a 4-year-old dog or cat would actually be 28 years old in human years. 

But when you really begin weighing out the arithmetic, this method 
doesn't add up. Say a 1-year-old dog is the equivalent of a 7-year-old 
human -- get out of here! How many 7-year-old humans are sexually active
 and capable of reproducing? Dogs and cats are much more likely to have 
babies at 1 year old or even at 10 years old, than any person who is 7 
or 70. 

DOGS 

Aging is much faster during a dog's first two years but varies among 
breeds. Large breeds, while they mature quicker, tend to live shorter 
lives. By the time they reach 5 they are considered "senior" dogs. 
Medium-sized breeds take around seven years to reach the senior stage, 
while small and toy breeds do not become seniors until around 10. 

Related: Top 5 Ways to Improve Life for Your Senior Dog 

Many veterinarians agree that a pretty good guess on the age of pets can
 be made using the following formula. Although still simple, it is much 
more accurate than the seven-year method. 

Assume that a 1-year-old dog is equal to a 12-year-old human and a 
2-year-old dog is equal to a 24-year old human. Then add four years for 
every year after that. (Example: A 4-year-old dog would be 32 in human 
years.) 

Since this method takes into consideration the maturity rate at the 
beginning of a dog's life and also the slowing of the aging process in 
his later years, Martha Smith, director of veterinary services at 
Boston's Animal Rescue League, feels that this is the more accurate 
calculation formula. Here is a chart, for easy reference: 

 
  A dog's average lifespan is around 12 or 13 years, but again, this 
varies widely by breed. The larger your dog is, the less time it will 
live. Female dogs tend to live a little longer. 

CATS 

Now let's take a glimpse at a simple formula for calculating feline age in 
human years. 

Assume that a 1-year-old cat is equal to a 15-year-old human and a 
2-year-old cat is equal to a 24-year-old human. Then add four years for 
every year after that. (Example: A 4-year-old cat would be 32 in human 
years.) 

The following chart shows this formula of calculation: 


  



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[Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Sherry DeHaan 
This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but 
we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when 
I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple 
monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I 
hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter  :(
Sherry


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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Edna Taylor 

I am sorry for your loss :(
 



Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800
From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(






This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but 
we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when 
I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple 
monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I 
hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter  :(
Sherry


"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way"
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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Heather 
Me too Sherry.  I know I have said this before but I just am always so
touched by how in just a few sentences you capture so much of the
personality (and everyone's love and appreciation of) a certain kitty's
essence, that it actually creates an image.  And the names are just always
so unique and fitting...full of the love and dedication you all obviously
pour into knowing and caring for each kitty.

I am so sorry, and also so glad they have you.  Peace to S'Matter & to you
all.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

>  I am sorry for your loss :(
>
>  --
> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800
> From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(
>
>
>   This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy
> cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us
> totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot
> in the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was
> a little braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed
> nowwe will miss you S'Matter  :(
> Sherry
>
> *"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary*
> *than our own,*
> *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.*
> *Unable to accept its awful gaps.*
> *We still would have it no other way"*
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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Terri Brown 
Goodnight, sweet S'Matter...

=^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, 
Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
=^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
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  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:30 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(


This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy 
cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us 
totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in 
the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little 
braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will 
miss you S'Matter  :(
Sherry


"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way" 
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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread Beth 
Awww..the scared ones tug at my heart strings the most.

 
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 From: Sherry DeHaan 
To: Felvtalk  
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter   Please add to the CLS  :(
 

This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy cat,but 
we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us totally,but when 
I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in the last couple 
monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little braverwell I 
hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will miss you S'Matter  :(
Sherry


"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way" 
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Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

2012-03-09 Thread GRAS 
Sherry,

So sorry about S'Matter.

I lost a cat yesterday, had to have Quigley euthanized. NOT from  FeLV, but
to a very severe kidney infection - he was over 16 yrs old, grey with the
most amazing emerald green eyes (left on our doorstep in a carrier years
ago).

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(

 

I am sorry for your loss :(
 

  _  

Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:30:16 -0800
From: sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] S'Matter Please add to the CLS :(


This morning we lost sweet scared S'Matterhe was quite the scaredy
cat,but we did our best to calm his fears...he never really trusted us
totally,but when I handed out treats I spotted him out of his hiding spot in
the last couple monthstook pics to prove to others that he was a little
braverwell I hope this wide eyed boy is calm and relaxed nowwe will
miss you S'Matter  :(

Sherry

"We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary

than our own,

Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.

Unable to accept its awful gaps.

We still would have it no other way"


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